Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Yep, I agree with that. Peter. - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Friday, August 08, 2003 11:18 PM [GJ] Vedic Teachings on Free Will/Destiny > > > Often in Vedic lore we hear hints of free will. > > For example, when Dronacarya is teaching the Pandavas how to fight, he tells > them to aim carefully. He goes into a long story of how one should focus > their attention only on their target, eliminating all other thoughts, see > ONLY the exact target, not anything else on the battlefield, and then fire. > > The emphasis is STRONGLY placed on that mental focus. > > In Druidic training, the same applies. One is taught to absolutely believe > in something so strongly that nature bends to manifest the thought. > > The Druids and Yogis alike used this technique. It sure sounds like free > will. It's all about willing, believing, and focusing. > > Then, frequently in both we hear of destiny. We hear of how strong, > infallible, destiny is. > > The thing seems to be that both are always true. The Druid or Brahmin, using > mental focus to co-create, is acting inside of nature, is born of nature, > made to do that, just as Indra is made to rule the heaves and rains. > > But that Druid, Brahmin and Indra feel every bit of the austerities they > performed to get to their difficult-to-achieve positions of perfection, and > they feel every bit of the exertions they perform to carry out their magic. > > I met Dean Kraft. He can move things with his mind. He can heal people with > his hands. It's a focusing he does. It's very exausting to him, or his body. > It's meant to be. It appears to be him. It's not him. It taxes him, but he > is not his body. > > We are playing in duality. > > Holding onto higher conceptions, despite odds, is the way to win in the > game. > > The more you know, the bigger the field you play inside, the more spirits > who will test you, the more your ancestors watch, the more othes watch, the > more you watch, the stakes get greater. > > The farmer who feels his crops won't grow sits idle while the weeds grow and > he laments and starves to death. The one who believes he can grow crops gets > busy tilling his fields. The belief is part of the manifesting. It doesn't > matter which comes first, free will or destiny, but for something to appear, > action, or sacrifice, must take place. The bigger the magic, the greater the > sacrifice. > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Often in Vedic lore we hear hints of free will. For example, when Dronacarya is teaching the Pandavas how to fight, he tells them to aim carefully. He goes into a long story of how one should focus their attention only on their target, eliminating all other thoughts, see ONLY the exact target, not anything else on the battlefield, and then fire. The emphasis is STRONGLY placed on that mental focus. In Druidic training, the same applies. One is taught to absolutely believe in something so strongly that nature bends to manifest the thought. The Druids and Yogis alike used this technique. It sure sounds like free will. It's all about willing, believing, and focusing. Then, frequently in both we hear of destiny. We hear of how strong, infallible, destiny is. The thing seems to be that both are always true. The Druid or Brahmin, using mental focus to co-create, is acting inside of nature, is born of nature, made to do that, just as Indra is made to rule the heaves and rains. But that Druid, Brahmin and Indra feel every bit of the austerities they performed to get to their difficult-to-achieve positions of perfection, and they feel every bit of the exertions they perform to carry out their magic. I met Dean Kraft. He can move things with his mind. He can heal people with his hands. It's a focusing he does. It's very exausting to him, or his body. It's meant to be. It appears to be him. It's not him. It taxes him, but he is not his body. We are playing in duality. Holding onto higher conceptions, despite odds, is the way to win in the game. The more you know, the bigger the field you play inside, the more spirits who will test you, the more your ancestors watch, the more othes watch, the more you watch, the stakes get greater. The farmer who feels his crops won't grow sits idle while the weeds grow and he laments and starves to death. The one who believes he can grow crops gets busy tilling his fields. The belief is part of the manifesting. It doesn't matter which comes first, free will or destiny, but for something to appear, action, or sacrifice, must take place. The bigger the magic, the greater the sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 Das' / Roik's Teaching on Vedic Free Will/Destiny Very good, Thanks, Anna - "Das Goravani" <> <gjlist> Friday, August 08, 2003 6:18 PM [GJ] Vedic Teachings on Free Will/Destiny > > > Often in Vedic lore we hear hints of free will. > > For example, when Dronacarya is teaching the Pandavas how to fight, he tells > them to aim carefully. He goes into a long story of how one should focus > their attention only on their target, eliminating all other thoughts, see > ONLY the exact target, not anything else on the battlefield, and then fire. > > The emphasis is STRONGLY placed on that mental focus. > > In Druidic training, the same applies. One is taught to absolutely believe > in something so strongly that nature bends to manifest the thought. > > The Druids and Yogis alike used this technique. It sure sounds like free > will. It's all about willing, believing, and focusing. > > Then, frequently in both we hear of destiny. We hear of how strong, > infallible, destiny is. > > The thing seems to be that both are always true. The Druid or Brahmin, using > mental focus to co-create, is acting inside of nature, is born of nature, > made to do that, just as Indra is made to rule the heaves and rains. > > But that Druid, Brahmin and Indra feel every bit of the austerities they > performed to get to their difficult-to-achieve positions of perfection, and > they feel every bit of the exertions they perform to carry out their magic. > > I met Dean Kraft. He can move things with his mind. He can heal people with > his hands. It's a focusing he does. It's very exausting to him, or his body. > It's meant to be. It appears to be him. It's not him. It taxes him, but he > is not his body. > > We are playing in duality. > > Holding onto higher conceptions, despite odds, is the way to win in the > game. > > The more you know, the bigger the field you play inside, the more spirits > who will test you, the more your ancestors watch, the more othes watch, the > more you watch, the stakes get greater. > > The farmer who feels his crops won't grow sits idle while the weeds grow and > he laments and starves to death. The one who believes he can grow crops gets > busy tilling his fields. The belief is part of the manifesting. It doesn't > matter which comes first, free will or destiny, but for something to appear, > action, or sacrifice, must take place. The bigger the magic, the greater the > sacrifice. > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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