Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Like my Tantric Master said, "Sex isn't dirty,but it is if you're doing it right. Chill:) Peter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 Hello Peter: I saw this and didn't understand what it refers to however I'm sure no genuine Tantric Master would make a statement as that. Somehow Tantra is associated with sex in the West not as a spiritual practice. I am not sure how that happened and have no knowledge of how that error occurred. I do have some knowledge about Tantra and the many benefits of it, including improving health and energy. In no way is sex the focus of Tantra. A very good book I have found is Harish Johari's Tools For Tantra and he details what is necessary for the aspirant to begin practicing it. There is a tape that can be purchased to hear the pronunciations in case you don't have any way of contacting a genuine Tantric Master in person. I'll quote from the book to demonstrate that this is a spiritual practice: "One can achieve a state of total awareness through the following six practices, 1) Sama: Mental quietude and subduing of the passions. 2) Dama: Self restraint and the subjugation of the five sense organs: Ears, skin, eyes, tongue, nose and the five organs of action: mouth, hands, feet, anus, genitals and the four internal organs: ahamkara (egoity) chitta (memory) buddhi (understanding) manas (cognition) 3) Uparati: Complete cessation of the perceiving and acting sense faculty. 4) Titiksha: Endurance, patience (the power to endure, without the slightest discomposure, extremes of heat and cold, joy and sorrow, honor and abuse, loss and gain and all other pairs of opposites. 5) Samadhan: Constant concentration of the mind. 6) Shraddha: True faith, conviction and devotion. The aspirant should also have the following six qualifications along with the six above mentioned treasures. Then he or she is fully competent to study Tantra. 1) Daksha: Intelligence. 2) Jitendreya: Control over the senses. 3) Sarva himsa vinirmukta: Abstension from violence of all kinds. (including verbal violence) 4) Sarva prana hitrata: Concern for universal welfare. 5) Shuchi: Purity 6) Astik: Belief in truth, which is vidya (knowledge), Veda (body of knowledge) and God. These six give one control over one's animal nature and make one a yogi." And an amazing and beautiful explanation quoted from Chapter One. "Tantra is a holistic approach to the study of the universal from the point of view of the individual: the study of the macrocosm through the study of the microcosm. It draws on all the sciences-astronomy, astrology, numerology, physiognomy, physics, chemistry, alchemy, Ayurveda (the traditional medicine of India), psychology, parapsychology, mathematics, geometry, and so on-to provide a practical means of realizing the highest ideals of philosophy in daily life. Instead of separating and categorizing the different areas of human knowledge, Tantra draws them together like beads on one string. The beautiful rosary thus formed is a unique instrument for enhancing the physical, mental, and spiritual life of man and woman." I also recommend his book on numerology because I've tested a lot of it out and it is a short cut method to understand relationships between different planetary types and astrology. Lydia - "Peter Goodchild" <Peter <gjlist> Monday, August 11, 2003 8:56 AM [GJ] Tantric Master > Like my Tantric Master said, > "Sex isn't dirty,but it is if you're doing it right. > Chill:) > Peter. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 I have looked over Mantak Chia's books on Toaist sex, Tantra like, and in those techniques, there is specicific postures, rhythms, timings, and so on, but not ejaculation, usually not orgasm. The aim is to build and retain. It ends up being rather Hatha Yoga like, clinical, and least of all "dirty". I think the only dirty sex is when there is a hint of abuse, an appearance of abuse, such as one party, usually the woman, acting as if she is not having pleasure, but rather, is being forced, abused, etc., as it often appears in modern porn, where the man is very agressive, and the woman appear as if they are in pain. das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 11, 2003 Report Share Posted August 11, 2003 I am happy the correct perception is coming about Tantra. Simply it can be defined:- " Tantra is a philosophy which expounds the Ultimate Reality". A master told in Hindi:- " Jis me poorva sach ka vistaar ho, us he tantra kahte he". Tantra means philosophy in totality. That is why it is against escapism, etc. Virendra Boone <olboone wrote: Hello Peter: I saw this and didn't understand what it refers to however I'm sure no genuine Tantric Master would make a statement as that. Somehow Tantra is associated with sex in the West not as a spiritual practice. I am not sure how that happened and have no knowledge of how that error occurred. I do have some knowledge about Tantra and the many benefits of it, including improving health and energy. In no way is sex the focus of Tantra. A very good book I have found is Harish Johari's Tools For Tantra and he details what is necessary for the aspirant to begin practicing it. There is a tape that can be purchased to hear the pronunciations in case you don't have any way of contacting a genuine Tantric Master in person. I'll quote from the book to demonstrate that this is a spiritual practice: "One can achieve a state of total awareness through the following six practices, 1) Sama: Mental quietude and subduing of the passions. 2) Dama: Self restraint and the subjugation of the five sense organs: Ears, skin, eyes, tongue, nose and the five organs of action: mouth, hands, feet, anus, genitals and the four internal organs: ahamkara (egoity) chitta (memory) buddhi (understanding) manas (cognition) 3) Uparati: Complete cessation of the perceiving and acting sense faculty. 4) Titiksha: Endurance, patience (the power to endure, without the slightest discomposure, extremes of heat and cold, joy and sorrow, honor and abuse, loss and gain and all other pairs of opposites. 5) Samadhan: Constant concentration of the mind. 6) Shraddha: True faith, conviction and devotion. The aspirant should also have the following six qualifications along with the six above mentioned treasures. Then he or she is fully competent to study Tantra. 1) Daksha: Intelligence. 2) Jitendreya: Control over the senses. 3) Sarva himsa vinirmukta: Abstension from violence of all kinds. (including verbal violence) 4) Sarva prana hitrata: Concern for universal welfare. 5) Shuchi: Purity 6) Astik: Belief in truth, which is vidya (knowledge), Veda (body of knowledge) and God. These six give one control over one's animal nature and make one a yogi." And an amazing and beautiful explanation quoted from Chapter One. "Tantra is a holistic approach to the study of the universal from the point of view of the individual: the study of the macrocosm through the study of the microcosm. It draws on all the sciences-astronomy, astrology, numerology, physiognomy, physics, chemistry, alchemy, Ayurveda (the traditional medicine of India), psychology, parapsychology, mathematics, geometry, and so on-to provide a practical means of realizing the highest ideals of philosophy in daily life. Instead of separating and categorizing the different areas of human knowledge, Tantra draws them together like beads on one string. The beautiful rosary thus formed is a unique instrument for enhancing the physical, mental, and spiritual life of man and woman." I also recommend his book on numerology because I've tested a lot of it out and it is a short cut method to understand relationships between different planetary types and astrology. Lydia - "Peter Goodchild" To: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:56 AM [GJ] Tantric Master > Like my Tantric Master said, > "Sex isn't dirty,but it is if you're doing it right. > Chill:) > Peter. > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to SMS using the Messenger;Download latest version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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