Guest guest Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Hello Indigenius, No I don't want to say that he has perfect (100%) life. It's not perfect and he is not celebrity kind of person. He is really middle class common man. What I look from 'MY ANGLE' is the balance of most matters. Let me explain this again that having lots of money without family is not better than having reasonable money and resonable good family life. I truly admit posibility that I may not know something about him or I misunderstand. Actually here point is not that what he think. I mean many problems are in our life are due to our thinking pattern not due to situation or events. Here I'm not concentrating on his beliefs, ideas or perceptions which may make him happy or unhappy regardless of physical things. I don't say that he has nothing wrong in his life. He had to work hard, he has tentions, he has deadly schedules and many other issues, but all are under control and in such a manner that he enjoys solving such problems or difficulty. His troubles never create pain for him. This discussion can be unlimited as everyone has different perceptions regarding what is good and what is not but I just thought generally. I guess that defination of good life for average person is something like Health, Personality, Education, Family Life, Married Life (or relationship), Friends (or Social Life), Hobbies, Career, Type of Profession (or Job satisfaction), Liberty, Comfortable house, Comfortable Vehicle and above all good bank balance. A person understand him/her self happy as many things as he gets. So this way this person has everything I described and in that sense I taken risk to say that he has well balanced life. I hope I could explain what I thought on this chart. Regards, Tushar --- indigenius <indigenius wrote: > You seem to describe this person as having a perfect > life, sans > children (which has its own benefits). Personally I > think there > cannot be a person whose life is all happiness. Even > god has to pay > his dues and suffer when he incarnates in human > form. > > I do not want to offend you, but I doubt whether you > know your friend > as well as you think you do. In fact, at the risk of > sounding > boastful, I would tell you that I know a couple of > friends of mine > who think my life is all roses, but like I said, > there is no such > thing as life without suffering and sorrows, and I > can tell you I > have my share of bad karmas, but these friends of > mine see only what > they want to see. > > I am not claiming that my analysis is correct. In > fact, Mars + Saturn > might actually be benefic for him, who knows? But > your impression > that there is nothing wrong in his life is a gross > error - that is > simply not possible - in fact, I would not even buy > a statement like > that most of the problems are minor and/or > negligible. > > Again, I mean to hurt nobody's feelings. > > I suggest you post more detailed information about > this guy. I mean, > just saying he is wealthy, has a pretty woman in his > life etc. etc. > really does not tell much with regard to the quality > of life, don't > you agree? Give more biographical details, like > where he lives, where > and how he grew up, what is his exact occupation, > education etc. etc. > If he has a website, that would really help. > > P.S. Why don't you throw this chart on > "vedic astrology" list? there > are some pretty good guys over there. > > gjlist, Tushar > <tushar_9> wrote: > > May be some one , > > > > My knowledge is very much limited or I can say > that I > > know only few basic rules and may be that's why it > > seems mystry to me. > > > > Tushar > > > > > > --- Vivek <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > Hi Tushar, > > > Perhaps someone else on this list can throw more > > > light on this? > > > vivek. > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > > > >Dear Vivek, > > > > > > > >As I told earlier this chart breakes rules. I > agree > > > >with you that such matters are so personal and > we > > > >generally do not share with every one (or > anyone) > > > but, > > > >in this case at least I can conclude whether he > is > > > >happy in married life or not, and I can tell > this > > > with > > > >little confidence about him as he is my close > > > friend > > > >and I know him since last 15 years. He married > at > > > the > > > >age of 24. There were some hurdles from parents > as > > > his > > > >was love marriage but those hurdles were very > > > natural > > > >and common we generally do not identify them as > > > >problem. But surely no quarrels and > > > misunderstandings. > > > > > > > >I'm not sure about Jupiter can remove all Dosha > if > > > >placed in Lagna or Trines because I have two > > > another > > > >chart with such Jupiter. One is mine I have > Jupiter > > > >too in 5th with Rahu. But I do not experienced > any > > > >good effect yet. We are habitual to look into > bad > > > part > > > >always so I tend to believe that it may be > because > > > of > > > >Rahu. But If I think in different aspect than > > > Jupiter > > > >gets extra power as it is in Sagi. it's > Multrikon > > > sign > > > >and Rahu become week in Sagi. and also there is > > > major > > > >difference of degrees also. Conclusively > Jupiter > > > must > > > >get command over Rahu but ultimetly somehow it > does > > > >not seem work for me. > > > > > > > >Once again I take risk of saying that this > chart > > > >breaks rules, this guy does not have any child, > > > that > > > >is the only missing factor in their life. They > have > > > >worked on all possible remedies but no result. > > > > > > > >Such charts always inspire me to believe that > so > > > >called rules are either in-complete or needs to > be > > > >re-think and that's why I always trying to find > out > > > >how planets work for individual and when one > become > > > >favourable and/or unfavorable, but .....??? > > > > > > > >If you think you need some more feedback let me > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > >regards, > > > > > > > >Tushar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Vivek <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > > Dear Tushar, > > > > > Yes,this guy has a very good chart.But it > does > > > > > indicate problems regarding marriage.Mars is > in > > > 7th > > > > > (mars is malefic for virgo) and saturn's > tenth > > > > > aspect on the house causes delay and > > > disappointment. > > > > > You may think that you know about his life > very > > > well > > > > > but many (perhaps most) people do not > discuss > > > their > > > > > private matters with others. > > > > > From his chart it appears that not only > would > > > > > marriage be delayed but it would be full of > > > quarrels > > > > > and misunderstandings too. > > > > > As I said earlier,jupiter in lagna or trines > > > cancels > > > > > or minimizes most defects/doshas.Perhaps > that is > > > the > > > > > reason his marriage is not > unsuccessful.Since he > > > has > > > > > a jupiterian nature,even if there are > > > problems,good > > > > > sense and wisdom will eventually prevail. > > > > > You had mentioned that he lacks > something.What > > > is > > > > > that? > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > > > > > >Dear Vivek and Indigenius, > > > > > > > > > > > >It seems that no other members are > interested > === message truncated === The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Hello Tushar, You yourself admit that he had to work hard,has tensions,etc but everything is under control and he has balance in life in all spheres. Or in short his life is above average. It is the same thing I was trying to tell you. Let us discuss certain important aspects of his chart in comparison with someone who has a poor chart. Saturn's aspect on moon is considered a terrible thing.In a chart where saturn afflicts moon,the native has a restricted life with a lot of mental worries,disappointments,troubles,etc.It is like lifetime sadesati.So actual sadesati will be like double sadesati. This guy has moon free of saturn's influence or any other negative influence.Instead he has moon conjunct jupiter in fifth which is great as jupiter trines lagna too. This is the main point --- mind (moon) free from disturbances/worries. lagna in trine to jupiter --- protection from evil,good quality of life. least troubles. No doubt he has a highly malefic mars,He had a sadesati -- but how much you suffer also depends on your natal strength. Jupiter protects,minimizes trouble.So even in bad periods he will suffer very less. Sense pleasure is determined by venus.Afflicted or combust venus denies good things in life as is seen in many charts.That is not the case with him.He has venus -- ninth lord in 11th the house of gains. Let us not discuss every point in detail --- but in short he has a strong natal chart so quality of life is going to be good. compare this with some horrible charts I have seen with many planets combust,debilitated etc or serious afflictions. So what is surprising?he has a good life because his chart is good. vivek. On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : >Hello Indigenius, > >No I don't want to say that he has perfect (100%) >life. It's not perfect and he is not celebrity kind of >person. He is really middle class common man. > >What I look from 'MY ANGLE' is the balance of most >matters. Let me explain this again that having lots of >money without family is not better than having >reasonable money and resonable good family life. > >I truly admit posibility that I may not know something >about him or I misunderstand. Actually here point is >not that what he think. I mean many problems are in >our life are due to our thinking pattern not due to >situation or events. Here I'm not concentrating on his >beliefs, ideas or perceptions which may make him happy >or unhappy regardless of physical things. > >I don't say that he has nothing wrong in his life. He >had to work hard, he has tentions, he has deadly >schedules and many other issues, but all are under >control and in such a manner that he enjoys solving >such problems or difficulty. His troubles never create >pain for him. > >This discussion can be unlimited as everyone has >different perceptions regarding what is good and what >is not but I just thought generally. I guess that >defination of good life for average person is >something like Health, Personality, Education, Family >Life, Married Life (or relationship), Friends (or >Social Life), Hobbies, Career, Type of Profession (or >Job satisfaction), Liberty, Comfortable house, >Comfortable Vehicle and above all good bank balance. A >person understand him/her self happy as many things as >he gets. So this way this person has everything I >described and in that sense I taken risk to say that >he has well balanced life. > >I hope I could explain what I thought on this chart. > >Regards, >Tushar > > >--- indigenius <indigenius wrote: > > You seem to describe this person as having a perfect > > life, sans > > children (which has its own benefits). Personally I > > think there > > cannot be a person whose life is all happiness. Even > > god has to pay > > his dues and suffer when he incarnates in human > > form. > > > > I do not want to offend you, but I doubt whether you > > know your friend > > as well as you think you do. In fact, at the risk of > > sounding > > boastful, I would tell you that I know a couple of > > friends of mine > > who think my life is all roses, but like I said, > > there is no such > > thing as life without suffering and sorrows, and I > > can tell you I > > have my share of bad karmas, but these friends of > > mine see only what > > they want to see. > > > > I am not claiming that my analysis is correct. In > > fact, Mars + Saturn > > might actually be benefic for him, who knows? But > > your impression > > that there is nothing wrong in his life is a gross > > error - that is > > simply not possible - in fact, I would not even buy > > a statement like > > that most of the problems are minor and/or > > negligible. > > > > Again, I mean to hurt nobody's feelings. > > > > I suggest you post more detailed information about > > this guy. I mean, > > just saying he is wealthy, has a pretty woman in his > > life etc. etc. > > really does not tell much with regard to the quality > > of life, don't > > you agree? Give more biographical details, like > > where he lives, where > > and how he grew up, what is his exact occupation, > > education etc. etc. > > If he has a website, that would really help. > > > > P.S. Why don't you throw this chart on > > "vedic astrology" list? there > > are some pretty good guys over there. > > > > gjlist, Tushar > > <tushar_9> wrote: > > > May be some one , > > > > > > My knowledge is very much limited or I can say > > that I > > > know only few basic rules and may be that's why it > > > seems mystry to me. > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > > > > --- Vivek <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > Hi Tushar, > > > > Perhaps someone else on this list can throw more > > > > light on this? > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > > > > >Dear Vivek, > > > > > > > > > >As I told earlier this chart breakes rules. I > > agree > > > > >with you that such matters are so personal and > > we > > > > >generally do not share with every one (or > > anyone) > > > > but, > > > > >in this case at least I can conclude whether he > > is > > > > >happy in married life or not, and I can tell > > this > > > > with > > > > >little confidence about him as he is my close > > > > friend > > > > >and I know him since last 15 years. He married > > at > > > > the > > > > >age of 24. There were some hurdles from parents > > as > > > > his > > > > >was love marriage but those hurdles were very > > > > natural > > > > >and common we generally do not identify them as > > > > >problem. But surely no quarrels and > > > > misunderstandings. > > > > > > > > > >I'm not sure about Jupiter can remove all Dosha > > if > > > > >placed in Lagna or Trines because I have two > > > > another > > > > >chart with such Jupiter. One is mine I have > > Jupiter > > > > >too in 5th with Rahu. But I do not experienced > > any > > > > >good effect yet. We are habitual to look into > > bad > > > > part > > > > >always so I tend to believe that it may be > > because > > > > of > > > > >Rahu. But If I think in different aspect than > > > > Jupiter > > > > >gets extra power as it is in Sagi. it's > > Multrikon > > > > sign > > > > >and Rahu become week in Sagi. and also there is > > > > major > > > > >difference of degrees also. Conclusively > > Jupiter > > > > must > > > > >get command over Rahu but ultimetly somehow it > > does > > > > >not seem work for me. > > > > > > > > > >Once again I take risk of saying that this > > chart > > > > >breaks rules, this guy does not have any child, > > > > that > > > > >is the only missing factor in their life. They > > have > > > > >worked on all possible remedies but no result. > > > > > > > > > >Such charts always inspire me to believe that > > so > > > > >called rules are either in-complete or needs to > > be > > > > >re-think and that's why I always trying to find > > out > > > > >how planets work for individual and when one > > become > > > > >favourable and/or unfavorable, but .....??? > > > > > > > > > >If you think you need some more feedback let me > > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >regards, > > > > > > > > > >Tushar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- Vivek <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Tushar, > > > > > > Yes,this guy has a very good chart.But it > > does > > > > > > indicate problems regarding marriage.Mars is > > in > > > > 7th > > > > > > (mars is malefic for virgo) and saturn's > > tenth > > > > > > aspect on the house causes delay and > > > > disappointment. > > > > > > You may think that you know about his life > > very > > > > well > > > > > > but many (perhaps most) people do not > > discuss > > > > their > > > > > > private matters with others. > > > > > > From his chart it appears that not only > > would > > > > > > marriage be delayed but it would be full of > > > > quarrels > > > > > > and misunderstandings too. > > > > > > As I said earlier,jupiter in lagna or trines > > > > cancels > > > > > > or minimizes most defects/doshas.Perhaps > > that is > > > > the > > > > > > reason his marriage is not > > unsuccessful.Since he > > > > has > > > > > > a jupiterian nature,even if there are > > > > problems,good > > > > > > sense and wisdom will eventually prevail. > > > > > > You had mentioned that he lacks > > something.What > > > > is > > > > > > that? > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > > > > > > >Dear Vivek and Indigenius, > > > > > > > > > > > > > >It seems that no other members are > > interested > > >=== message truncated === > > > > >The New with improved product search > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Hello Vivek, May be you are right as it's just difference of presentation or difference of words and sentences. I just want to add that it's not surprise or I have not put it as amazing chart. I just wanted to convey that this one is well balanced chart and most of people (or average person) look for such life which includes maximum Colors of life. regards, Tushar --- Vivek <keviv90 wrote: > Hello Tushar, > You yourself admit that he had to work hard,has > tensions,etc but everything is under control and he > has balance in life in all spheres. > Or in short his life is above average. > It is the same thing I was trying to tell you. > Let us discuss certain important aspects of his > chart in comparison with someone who has a poor > chart. > Saturn's aspect on moon is considered a terrible > thing.In a chart where saturn afflicts moon,the > native has a restricted life with a lot of mental > worries,disappointments,troubles,etc.It is like > lifetime sadesati.So actual sadesati will be like > double sadesati. > This guy has moon free of saturn's influence or any > other negative influence.Instead he has moon > conjunct jupiter in fifth which is great as jupiter > trines lagna too. > This is the main point --- mind (moon) free from > disturbances/worries. > lagna in trine to jupiter --- protection from > evil,good quality of life. > least troubles. > No doubt he has a highly malefic mars,He had a > sadesati -- but how much you suffer also depends on > your natal strength. > Jupiter protects,minimizes trouble.So even in bad > periods he will suffer very less. > Sense pleasure is determined by venus.Afflicted or > combust venus denies good things in life as is seen > in many charts.That is not the case with him.He has > venus -- ninth lord in 11th the house of gains. > Let us not discuss every point in detail --- but in > short he has a strong natal chart so quality of life > is going to be good. > compare this with some horrible charts I have seen > with many planets combust,debilitated etc or serious > afflictions. > So what is surprising?he has a good life because his > chart is good. > vivek. > > On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > >Hello Indigenius, > > > >No I don't want to say that he has perfect (100%) > >life. It's not perfect and he is not celebrity kind > of > >person. He is really middle class common man. > > > >What I look from 'MY ANGLE' is the balance of most > >matters. Let me explain this again that having lots > of > >money without family is not better than having > >reasonable money and resonable good family life. > > > >I truly admit posibility that I may not know > something > >about him or I misunderstand. Actually here point > is > >not that what he think. I mean many problems are in > >our life are due to our thinking pattern not due to > >situation or events. Here I'm not concentrating on > his > >beliefs, ideas or perceptions which may make him > happy > >or unhappy regardless of physical things. > > > >I don't say that he has nothing wrong in his life. > He > >had to work hard, he has tentions, he has deadly > >schedules and many other issues, but all are under > >control and in such a manner that he enjoys solving > >such problems or difficulty. His troubles never > create > >pain for him. > > > >This discussion can be unlimited as everyone has > >different perceptions regarding what is good and > what > >is not but I just thought generally. I guess that > >defination of good life for average person is > >something like Health, Personality, Education, > Family > >Life, Married Life (or relationship), Friends (or > >Social Life), Hobbies, Career, Type of Profession > (or > >Job satisfaction), Liberty, Comfortable house, > >Comfortable Vehicle and above all good bank > balance. A > >person understand him/her self happy as many things > as > >he gets. So this way this person has everything I > >described and in that sense I taken risk to say > that > >he has well balanced life. > > > >I hope I could explain what I thought on this > chart. > > > >Regards, > >Tushar > > > > > >--- indigenius <indigenius wrote: > > > You seem to describe this person as having a > perfect > > > life, sans > > > children (which has its own benefits). > Personally I > > > think there > > > cannot be a person whose life is all happiness. > Even > > > god has to pay > > > his dues and suffer when he incarnates in human > > > form. > > > > > > I do not want to offend you, but I doubt whether > you > > > know your friend > > > as well as you think you do. In fact, at the > risk of > > > sounding > > > boastful, I would tell you that I know a couple > of > > > friends of mine > > > who think my life is all roses, but like I said, > > > there is no such > > > thing as life without suffering and sorrows, and > I > > > can tell you I > > > have my share of bad karmas, but these friends > of > > > mine see only what > > > they want to see. > > > > > > I am not claiming that my analysis is correct. > In > > > fact, Mars + Saturn > > > might actually be benefic for him, who knows? > But > > > your impression > > > that there is nothing wrong in his life is a > gross > > > error - that is > > > simply not possible - in fact, I would not even > buy > > > a statement like > > > that most of the problems are minor and/or > > > negligible. > > > > > > Again, I mean to hurt nobody's feelings. > > > > > > I suggest you post more detailed information > about > > > this guy. I mean, > > > just saying he is wealthy, has a pretty woman in > his > > > life etc. etc. > > > really does not tell much with regard to the > quality > > > of life, don't > > > you agree? Give more biographical details, like > > > where he lives, where > > > and how he grew up, what is his exact > occupation, > > > education etc. etc. > > > If he has a website, that would really help. > > > > > > P.S. Why don't you throw this chart on > > > "vedic astrology" list? there > > > are some pretty good guys over there. > > > > > > gjlist, Tushar > > > <tushar_9> wrote: > > > > May be some one , > > > > > > > > My knowledge is very much limited or I can say > > > that I > > > > know only few basic rules and may be that's > why it > > > > seems mystry to me. > > > > > > > > Tushar > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Vivek <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > > Hi Tushar, > > > > > Perhaps someone else on this list can throw > more > > > > > light on this? > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 Tushar wrote : > > > > > >Dear Vivek, > > > > > > > > > > > >As I told earlier this chart breakes rules. > I > > > agree > > > > > >with you that such matters are so personal > and > === message truncated === The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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