Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Hi everyone, I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? vivek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 When it comes to Jaimini Karakas it would be better to leave out Rahu as a Karaka I mean consider only 7 Chara Karakas and not 8….. regards Vinay Vivek <keviv90 wrote:Hi everyone, I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? vivek. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Dear Vivek, Rahu and Ketu are traditionally left out of the karaka scheme... thus no contradiction exists. Peace- Ashwin Vivek <keviv90 wrote: Hi everyone, I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? vivek. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Dear Vivek: Rahu-Ketu cannot be AK, according to other astrologers that I have talked to,m and I would like this clarified by others (why?) on the list since IF Rahu-Ketu can be AK, at NT 27* Taurus (Cancer lagna), Rahu would be AK for me and not Jupiter (NT 26* in Virgo, H-3), but many others have said that Jupiter is AK for me. List please clarify. Also, in an earlier reply to me, you said that "Rahu rules the eighth (Aquarius) and is in badhakasthana." Would you explain why Rahu rules the eighth and not Saturn (the ruler of Aquarius), and what is "badhakasthana?" Janna -- Satyam Shivam Sundaram Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > vivek. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 not really... rahu isnt left out traditionally from the karaka scheme... BPHS gives 8 karakas where Jaimini gives 7... [based on what translations i have] What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion - Ashwin Sun gjlist Sunday, October 12, 2003 7:44 PM Re: [GJ] Rahu as atmakaraka Dear Vivek, Rahu and Ketu are traditionally left out of the karaka scheme... thus no contradiction exists. Peace- Ashwin Vivek <keviv90 wrote: Hi everyone, I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? vivek. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to The New with improved product search Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Vivek, Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual growth. Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the Real Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming as atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the atmakaaraka the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power to help others. Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara (moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > vivek. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear Janna, >From what I understand,8 planets can be AK --- Ketu cannot be as he is above material modes. For rahu,the degrees have to be counted in reverse(backwards).So 27* would be equal to 3* ---- were he at 3* taurus,he would be AK. Rahu is the co-ruler of aquarius along with saturn and ketu is the co-ruler of pisces along with jupiter ---- atleast that is what I have learnt -- and this is used to determine their disposition towards a particular lagna.If a node rules a trine he is highly beneficial,if he rules a quadrant,he does no bad(overall good) and if he rules neither,he does no good(only bad). Since you are cancer lagna,rahu is bad for you and ketu is beneficial for you. Regarding badhakasthana -- I don't know the exact definition of the word but planets posited there do bad in their periods. For aries,cancer,libra,cp --- 11th house is badhak.... for taurus,leo,scorpio,aqu --- 9th........ for gemini,virgo,sagg,pis --- If I remember correctly,it is 7th. All that I have written above may not be correct --- so if anything is wrong,someone may kindly correct me. Best wishes, vivek. On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 Janna Lynn wrote : >Dear Vivek: > >Rahu-Ketu cannot be AK, according to other astrologers that I >have talked to,m and I would like this clarified by others (why?) >on the list since IF Rahu-Ketu can be AK, at NT 27* Taurus >(Cancer lagna), Rahu would be AK for me and not Jupiter (NT >26* in Virgo, H-3), but many others have said that Jupiter is AK >for me. List please clarify. > >Also, in an earlier reply to me, you said that "Rahu rules the >eighth (Aquarius) and is in badhakasthana." Would you explain >why Rahu rules the eighth and not Saturn (the ruler of Aquarius), >and what is "badhakasthana?" > >Janna > > >-- Satyam Shivam Sundaram > >Please visit my web site: http://seven_directions.tripod.com/ > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to >keep you in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads >you to moksha. > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Dear sanjay, My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange as it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is surprising. best regards, vivek. On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : >|| Om Gurave Namah || >Dear Vivek, > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual growth. >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the Real >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming as >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the atmakaaraka >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power >to help others. > >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. > > >Warm Regards >S. Prabhakaran > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Vivek, When Rahu is Ak. It has been given the job (By Paramaatma/Supreme soul) of punishing one materialy. It's all very happy to punish. Person with Rahu as Ak may be cheated many times but the person themself will not be able to do cheat easily!. Hope this resolves the confusion. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > Dear sanjay, > My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? > Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange as it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. > Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is surprising. > best regards, > vivek. > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > >Dear Vivek, > > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual growth. > >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the Real > >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming as > >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa > >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the atmakaaraka > >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get > >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in > >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and > >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power > >to help others. > > > >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara > >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of > >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For > >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not > >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. > > > > > >Warm Regards > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep you > >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to moksha. > > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Dear sanjay, It would be like having two ketu's in the chart.I suppose the person will be highly spiritually advanced. Regarding punishing materially -- what if rahu is benefic to one's sign apart from being AK? Libra ascdt for example. Best regards, vivek. On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : >|| Om Gurave Namah || >Dear Vivek, > When Rahu is Ak. It has been given the job (By Paramaatma/Supreme >soul) of punishing one materialy. It's all very happy to punish. >Person with Rahu as Ak may be cheated many times but the person >themself will not be able to do cheat easily!. > >Hope this resolves the confusion. > >Warm Regards >S. Prabhakaran > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > Dear sanjay, > > My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? > > Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange as >it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material >desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. > > Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is >surprising. > > best regards, > > vivek. > > > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > > >Dear Vivek, > > > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual >growth. > > >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the >Real > > >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming >as > > >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa > > >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the >atmakaaraka > > >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get > > >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in > > >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and > > >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power > > >to help others. > > > > > >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara > > >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of > > >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For > > >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not > > >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. > > > > > > > > >Warm Regards > > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep >you > > >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to >moksha. > > > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Om Krishna Guru Dear Sanjay, Intresting!! I do have Rahu as AK but, I always do get my chance to cheat people easily or to be very manipulative but I just could not do that. I feel i just can't do it. Why .. huh?? Mofie Augustine "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjayp wrote: >|| Om Gurave Namah || >Dear Vivek, > When Rahu is Ak. It has been given the job (By Paramaatma/Supreme >soul) of punishing one materialy. It's all very happy to punish. >Person with Rahu as Ak may be cheated many times but the person >themself will not be able to do cheat easily!. > >Hope this resolves the confusion. > >Warm Regards >S. Prabhakaran > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: >> Dear sanjay, >> My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? >> Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange as >it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material >desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. >> Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is >surprising. >> best regards, >> vivek. >> >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : >> >|| Om Gurave Namah || >> >Dear Vivek, >> > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual >growth. >> >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the >Real >> >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming >as >> >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa >> >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the >atmakaaraka >> >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get >> >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in >> >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and >> >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power >> >to help others. >> > >> >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara >> >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of >> >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For >> >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not >> >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. >> > >> > >> >Warm Regards >> >S. Prabhakaran >> > >> > >> >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: >> > > Hi everyone, >> > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep >you >> >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to >moksha. >> > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? >> > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? >> > > vivek. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >: gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of is subject to > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > ________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Vivek, Job of Atmakaaraka is to take to Ketu. Just imagine if Rahu meets with Ketu the whole world puzzle get resolved. The Rahu and Ketu are the cause of this individual atma. It's all based on churning of ocean and creation of this world. If anybody can get Ketu as atmakaaraka then be sure that the chart is not for this world. Warm Regards S. Prabhakaran gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > Dear sanjay, > It would be like having two ketu's in the chart.I suppose the person will be highly spiritually advanced. > Regarding punishing materially -- what if rahu is benefic to one's sign apart from being AK? Libra ascdt for example. > Best regards, > vivek. > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > >Dear Vivek, > > When Rahu is Ak. It has been given the job (By Paramaatma/Supreme > >soul) of punishing one materialy. It's all very happy to punish. > >Person with Rahu as Ak may be cheated many times but the person > >themself will not be able to do cheat easily!. > > > >Hope this resolves the confusion. > > > >Warm Regards > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > Dear sanjay, > > > My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? > > > Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange as > >it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material > >desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. > > > Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is > >surprising. > > > best regards, > > > vivek. > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > > > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > > > >Dear Vivek, > > > > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual > >growth. > > > >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the > >Real > > > >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics becoming > >as > > > >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak dasa > > > >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the > >atmakaaraka > > > >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is to get > > > >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics in > > > >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in Mantra and > > > >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra power > > > >to help others. > > > > > > > >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara > > > >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka system of > > > >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). For > > > >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not > > > >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. > > > > > > > > > > > >Warm Regards > > > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to keep > >you > > > >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to > >moksha. > > > > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > > > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Dear sanjay, I do understand that ketu cannot be atmakaraka as he is the only planet above material modes. Obviously if rahu(who is meant to keep you entangled in maya) himself leads one to ketu,then the person has to be spiritually advanced. My main question was -- in such cases,does rahu act OPPOSITE to his own nature. Another question was --- what if a gemini,libra or aquarius ascendant has rahu as AK? Rahu is beneficial for these signs.So how will he punish materially? Best wishes, vivek. On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : >|| Om Gurave Namah || >Dear Vivek, > Job of Atmakaaraka is to take to Ketu. Just imagine if Rahu meets >with Ketu the whole world puzzle get resolved. The Rahu and Ketu are >the cause of this individual atma. It's all based on churning of >ocean and creation of this world. >If anybody can get Ketu as atmakaaraka then be sure that the chart is >not for this world. > >Warm Regards >S. Prabhakaran > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > Dear sanjay, > > It would be like having two ketu's in the chart.I suppose the >person will be highly spiritually advanced. > > Regarding punishing materially -- what if rahu is benefic to one's >sign apart from being AK? Libra ascdt for example. > > Best regards, > > vivek. > > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > > >Dear Vivek, > > > When Rahu is Ak. It has been given the job (By Paramaatma/Supreme > > >soul) of punishing one materialy. It's all very happy to punish. > > >Person with Rahu as Ak may be cheated many times but the person > > >themself will not be able to do cheat easily!. > > > > > >Hope this resolves the confusion. > > > > > >Warm Regards > > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear sanjay, > > > > My main question was -- wouldn't it be a contradiction? > > > > Rahu leading one to spiritual growth/liberation sounds strange >as > > >it goes against rahu's basic nature.Rahu stands for material > > >desire/illusion which is anti-spiritual. > > > > Rahu and ketu are exact opposites and rahu doing ketu's job is > > >surprising. > > > > best regards, > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 sanjayprabhakaran wrote : > > > > >|| Om Gurave Namah || > > > > >Dear Vivek, > > > > > Rahu as Atmakaaraka can indicate a possiblity of spiritual > > >growth. > > > > >Atma/Soul is all knowing. Hence Atmakaaraka tries teach one the > > >Real > > > > >Truth. Malefics teach a person more severely. So Malefics >becoming > > >as > > > > >atmakaaraka can indicate a lot of suffering during atmakaarak >dasa > > > > >and hence the person seeks spirituality. More malefic the > > >atmakaaraka > > > > >the more the person can become spiritual. Atma's main job is >to get > > > > >above material life. A Jaimini sutra tells that more malefics >in > > > > >trines to Atmakaaraka the person may become an expert in >Mantra and > > > > >if benifics aspect it then the person may also use the mantra >power > > > > >to help others. > > > > > > > > > >Jaimini and Parasara have both mentioned either 7 or 8 Chara > > > > >(moving/temprorary) Kaarakas for living beings 8 kaaraka >system of > > > > >planets excluding Ketu(The overal signifier for spirituality). >For > > > > >mundane events and other charts, where spirituality is not > > > > >considered, 7 Chara kaaraka system is used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Warm Regards > > > > >S. Prabhakaran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist, "Vivek " <keviv90@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > I have often wondered about this.Rahu's basic nature is to >keep > > >you > > > > >in maya(illusion).Atmakaraka is the planet which leads you to > > >moksha. > > > > > > So wouldn't having rahu as atmakaraka be a contradiction? > > > > > > If rahu is AK,will he act against his basic nature? > > > > > > vivek. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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