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Dear Mary:

 

I did not mean to negate Moon VOC only to question why it BEGINS with a

physical planetary aspect (Moon aspecting Mars Dec 12) and ENDS with the

Moon's entry into a sign INSTEAD OF the next planetary aspect, which would

be Moon oppose Neptune Dec 13, as an example. This would be a "truer"

VOC cycle in my view since I see the actual fixed sidereal constellation, or

nakshakra, as the backdrop in the sky against which the planets/luminaries

move to form aspects. So it is important for interpretation whether (and the

time) the planets/luminaries enter sidereal Cancer or tropical Leo, but the

Moon is not technically aspecting the individual stars to form an aspect, such

as a conjunction or opposition (as it does the planets/luminaries), but only

moving through various segments of the nakshakra (with the segment of the

constellation it or another planet/luminary is in being significant). But, I

also

agree with you that tropical astrology seems to show that projects or events

undertaken during Moon VOC seem not to "bear fruit," perhaps similar to to

the times of the day (Rahu Kal) when it is better not to initiate an

externalized

event. This is the reason I was trying to find a way to be more exact in

calculating the time of the Moon's entry into a new constellation sidereally,

but it's evident that if that is significant, I just need a more complete

ephemeris.

 

The exchange stimulated deeper thought and understanding and is perhaps

the outcome of TR sidereal Moon oppose sidereal TR Neptune (oppose NT

Mercury and NT Pluto in sidereal Cancer), and I felt that it brought more

clarity

than (hopefully) confusion to my understanding of the stars/planets/

luminaries! So thank you again for your sensitive perceptions in the dialogue.

 

Janna

 

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Behind the appearance is the depth of the ocean. A completely different story

 

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gjlist, Mary Quinn <mary1quinn> wrote:

> Dear Janna,

>

> I'm glad all is now clear.

>

> Re: How did the ancients' do it? I suspect the

> ancients used the sidereal zodiac and just looked up

> in the sky and didn't bother with translating tropical

> to anything. Then as the tropical zodiac pulled away

> from the sidereal one, they must have just relied on

> math. It's sad, but we all pretty much knew how to do

> math until the pocket calculator and then the personal

> computer came along. Note that this comes from someone

> who relies heavily on the calculator and the computer!

>

> You say that Mr. Tafts said that "the signs aren't

> physical realities" which is true for the tropical

> zodiac, but I was under the impression that the

> sidereal zodiac WAS a physical reality since the stars

> involved in the constellations are just as physical as

> a planet, aren't they?

>

> Why is Moon VOC important in tropical? Gosh knows. I

> suspect that tropical horary astrologers noted a high

> degree of coincidence in the outcome of events started

> while the Moon was past it's last aspect in a sign and

> before it entered the next sign. They needed to call

> it something so VOC was good enough. Does that make it

> "real"? I don't know. The question is, does the theory

> work more than it doesn't? It has been my experience

> that it does, but my experience is very limited.

>

> I don't think you, or I, or Mr. Taft could negate the

> VOC Moon theory just by making declarative statements.

> I think you COULD negate it by coming up with an

> alternative theory to explain the noted outcome of

> events. And I'd love to hear it since I spend way too

> much time every December preparing the next year's

> calendar for my family (who do believe in Moon VOC)

> since I'm the only one who understands it.

>

> What I do know is that if you believe that the Moon

> VOC is blocking your mind's preparation for deeper

> illumination: chuck the whole Moon VOC theory in the

> trash. You will live your life just fine without it.

> Knowledge is a pain in the butt. It is often very

> helpful, and just as often just complicates and

> confuses. It's a personal choice though, something one

> can negate for oneself, but perhaps not for everyone

> else.

>

> I've enjoyed this conversation. Thanks for the chat.

>

>

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