What does career mean?/Saturn in 10th

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Richard, for a great answer. I thought I was perfectly

content with it but something's been eating at the back of my brain

and still doesn't make sense to me. Forgive me if I'm

misunderstanding or just plain stupid here.

 

In your answer to someone about Saturn in the 10th, you talk

about "standing" in the 10th with Saturn applying pressure, in

essence, on one's head. That got me thinking about the 4th. I thought

one "stood" in the 4th. Isn't that the house of one's foundation or

solid ground? It makes sense that the 10th is the house of goals

being that it is out there in the world, above the horizon, and as

the highest point in the chart, the place one reaches farthest

towards. But wouldn't one's drive or purpose or conviction or will be

an internal thing? Wouldn't you need a strong inner foundation,

strength of character or purpose, to continually reach for anything

at all, especially against all odds? Wouldn't that come from below

the horizon, internally, from the "core" of one's being and therefore

the 4th?

 

In the movie Stargate, having the spatial address of a planet you

wanted to travel to was useless unless you had the 7th symbol of the

planet you were starting from. Reaching point B required having a

point A. So wouldn't part of one's success in reaching the goals of

the 10th come from drive in the 4th?

 

Originally, I asked if the 10th would also represent one's goals or

one's purpose because I know someone with no career but with very

strong goals/purpose, etc. It seemed to me that this pointed to

weakness in the 10th but strength somewhere else. In your answer, you

seemed to say that success in the 10th doesn't have to be success in

an established "career". But come to think of it, the person I'm

thinking of doesn't really have all that much success achieving their

goals. They have tremendous drive, a solid idea of their goals,

extreme strength of character and a very strong work ethic. With one

thing or another, though, those goals are elusive little devils. This

seems to be echoed in the answers of people with Saturn in the 10th

who say they work like the dickens but just don't seem to achieve in

proportion to their efforts.

 

But this seems to be a slightly different case than that of your

friend who has neither a career nor, it would seem, do they "do

anything" with their life, to quote you. So how strong or weak is

your friend's 4th? Or am I full of doodoo on this whole 4th

house "drive/purpose" idea?

 

Second question that has come up in thinking about your recent

answers: Is what we do to achieve success in the 10th also

represented by the 10th? By 'what we do' I'm also including what we

do to get in our own way. Going again to your friend. You mention her

Saturn in the 10th and then go on to imply that her use of the

Saturnine 'hammer of truth', if you will, on the toes of everyone

around her is possibly part of her lack of success. I'm not sure if

you mean that she doesn't have a career because of this or that if

she did have a career it might be less than completely successful due

to this enthusiastic hammering. Or maybe you didn't mean this at all.

You mentioned this in an answer to someone else stating that maybe

they needed to accept some truths they are not accepting in order to

have greater success. Possibly this was the same gentleman who may

not be as Venusian as his more business-successful brothers are, I'm

not sure, my memory could be wrong here. Anyway if one is interested

in looking in the chart to see where one is contributing to one's own

career failings - or to see what one needs to accept/learn/etc to

improve one's career, does one look to the 10th? Is that what you're

saying? Or would you look perhaps into the 9th as the 'career losses'

or 'self-undoing in regards to career'? There's a logical argument in

favor of either house, so would you look to both?

 

Anyway, just wondering.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I know of some one (in my family) who has ZERo career (no earning and

no hope of earning also although drive for that is present) and that

fellow has Saturn in 10th house (with scorpio asd). In this case,

saturn is present in Leo Sign (ruled by Sun). That person has faced

difficulties since the very young age and is still in difficulties.

 

Regards

Sonu

 

gjlist, "mary1quinn" <mary1quinn> wrote:

> Thank you, Richard, for a great answer. I thought I was perfectly

> content with it but something's been eating at the back of my brain

> and still doesn't make sense to me. Forgive me if I'm

> misunderstanding or just plain stupid here.

>

> In your answer to someone about Saturn in the 10th, you talk

> about "standing" in the 10th with Saturn applying pressure, in

> essence, on one's head. That got me thinking about the 4th. I

thought

> one "stood" in the 4th. Isn't that the house of one's foundation or

> solid ground? It makes sense that the 10th is the house of goals

> being that it is out there in the world, above the horizon, and as

> the highest point in the chart, the place one reaches farthest

> towards. But wouldn't one's drive or purpose or conviction or will

be

> an internal thing? Wouldn't you need a strong inner foundation,

> strength of character or purpose, to continually reach for anything

> at all, especially against all odds? Wouldn't that come from below

> the horizon, internally, from the "core" of one's being and

therefore

> the 4th?

>

> In the movie Stargate, having the spatial address of a planet you

> wanted to travel to was useless unless you had the 7th symbol of

the

> planet you were starting from. Reaching point B required having a

> point A. So wouldn't part of one's success in reaching the goals of

> the 10th come from drive in the 4th?

>

> Originally, I asked if the 10th would also represent one's goals or

> one's purpose because I know someone with no career but with very

> strong goals/purpose, etc. It seemed to me that this pointed to

> weakness in the 10th but strength somewhere else. In your answer,

you

> seemed to say that success in the 10th doesn't have to be success

in

> an established "career". But come to think of it, the person I'm

> thinking of doesn't really have all that much success achieving

their

> goals. They have tremendous drive, a solid idea of their goals,

> extreme strength of character and a very strong work ethic. With

one

> thing or another, though, those goals are elusive little devils.

This

> seems to be echoed in the answers of people with Saturn in the 10th

> who say they work like the dickens but just don't seem to achieve

in

> proportion to their efforts.

>

> But this seems to be a slightly different case than that of your

> friend who has neither a career nor, it would seem, do they "do

> anything" with their life, to quote you. So how strong or weak is

> your friend's 4th? Or am I full of doodoo on this whole 4th

> house "drive/purpose" idea?

>

> Second question that has come up in thinking about your recent

> answers: Is what we do to achieve success in the 10th also

> represented by the 10th? By 'what we do' I'm also including what we

> do to get in our own way. Going again to your friend. You mention

her

> Saturn in the 10th and then go on to imply that her use of the

> Saturnine 'hammer of truth', if you will, on the toes of everyone

> around her is possibly part of her lack of success. I'm not sure if

> you mean that she doesn't have a career because of this or that if

> she did have a career it might be less than completely successful

due

> to this enthusiastic hammering. Or maybe you didn't mean this at

all.

> You mentioned this in an answer to someone else stating that maybe

> they needed to accept some truths they are not accepting in order

to

> have greater success. Possibly this was the same gentleman who may

> not be as Venusian as his more business-successful brothers are,

I'm

> not sure, my memory could be wrong here. Anyway if one is

interested

> in looking in the chart to see where one is contributing to one's

own

> career failings - or to see what one needs to accept/learn/etc to

> improve one's career, does one look to the 10th? Is that what

you're

> saying? Or would you look perhaps into the 9th as the 'career

losses'

> or 'self-undoing in regards to career'? There's a logical argument

in

> favor of either house, so would you look to both?

>

> Anyway, just wondering.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I know of some one (in my family) who has ZERo career (no earning and

no hope of earning also although drive for that is present) and that

fellow has Saturn in 10th house (with scorpio asd). In this case,

saturn is present in Leo Sign (ruled by Sun). That person has faced

difficulties since the very young age and is still in difficulties.

 

Regards

Sonu

 

gjlist, "mary1quinn" <mary1quinn> wrote:

> Thank you, Richard, for a great answer. I thought I was perfectly

> content with it but something's been eating at the back of my brain

> and still doesn't make sense to me. Forgive me if I'm

> misunderstanding or just plain stupid here.

>

> In your answer to someone about Saturn in the 10th, you talk

> about "standing" in the 10th with Saturn applying pressure, in

> essence, on one's head. That got me thinking about the 4th. I

thought

> one "stood" in the 4th. Isn't that the house of one's foundation or

> solid ground? It makes sense that the 10th is the house of goals

> being that it is out there in the world, above the horizon, and as

> the highest point in the chart, the place one reaches farthest

> towards. But wouldn't one's drive or purpose or conviction or will

be

> an internal thing? Wouldn't you need a strong inner foundation,

> strength of character or purpose, to continually reach for anything

> at all, especially against all odds? Wouldn't that come from below

> the horizon, internally, from the "core" of one's being and

therefore

> the 4th?

>

> In the movie Stargate, having the spatial address of a planet you

> wanted to travel to was useless unless you had the 7th symbol of

the

> planet you were starting from. Reaching point B required having a

> point A. So wouldn't part of one's success in reaching the goals of

> the 10th come from drive in the 4th?

>

> Originally, I asked if the 10th would also represent one's goals or

> one's purpose because I know someone with no career but with very

> strong goals/purpose, etc. It seemed to me that this pointed to

> weakness in the 10th but strength somewhere else. In your answer,

you

> seemed to say that success in the 10th doesn't have to be success

in

> an established "career". But come to think of it, the person I'm

> thinking of doesn't really have all that much success achieving

their

> goals. They have tremendous drive, a solid idea of their goals,

> extreme strength of character and a very strong work ethic. With

one

> thing or another, though, those goals are elusive little devils.

This

> seems to be echoed in the answers of people with Saturn in the 10th

> who say they work like the dickens but just don't seem to achieve

in

> proportion to their efforts.

>

> But this seems to be a slightly different case than that of your

> friend who has neither a career nor, it would seem, do they "do

> anything" with their life, to quote you. So how strong or weak is

> your friend's 4th? Or am I full of doodoo on this whole 4th

> house "drive/purpose" idea?

>

> Second question that has come up in thinking about your recent

> answers: Is what we do to achieve success in the 10th also

> represented by the 10th? By 'what we do' I'm also including what we

> do to get in our own way. Going again to your friend. You mention

her

> Saturn in the 10th and then go on to imply that her use of the

> Saturnine 'hammer of truth', if you will, on the toes of everyone

> around her is possibly part of her lack of success. I'm not sure if

> you mean that she doesn't have a career because of this or that if

> she did have a career it might be less than completely successful

due

> to this enthusiastic hammering. Or maybe you didn't mean this at

all.

> You mentioned this in an answer to someone else stating that maybe

> they needed to accept some truths they are not accepting in order

to

> have greater success. Possibly this was the same gentleman who may

> not be as Venusian as his more business-successful brothers are,

I'm

> not sure, my memory could be wrong here. Anyway if one is

interested

> in looking in the chart to see where one is contributing to one's

own

> career failings - or to see what one needs to accept/learn/etc to

> improve one's career, does one look to the 10th? Is that what

you're

> saying? Or would you look perhaps into the 9th as the 'career

losses'

> or 'self-undoing in regards to career'? There's a logical argument

in

> favor of either house, so would you look to both?

>

> Anyway, just wondering.

[Guest guest]

Yes, I believe you.

 

And a strong JUPITER in the 10th makes a person a 'bawarchi', ( A Cook)!

-

"delhi_tagore" <delhi_tagore

<gjlist>

Tuesday, December 23, 2003 5:11 AM

[GJ] Re: What does career mean?/Saturn in 10th

 

 

> Hi,

> I know of some one (in my family) who has ZERo career (no earning and

> no hope of earning also although drive for that is present) and that

> fellow has Saturn in 10th house (with scorpio asd). In this case,

> saturn is present in Leo Sign (ruled by Sun). That person has faced

> difficulties since the very young age and is still in difficulties.

>

> Regards

> Sonu

>

> gjlist, "mary1quinn" <mary1quinn> wrote:

> > Thank you, Richard, for a great answer. I thought I was perfectly

> > content with it but something's been eating at the back of my brain

> > and still doesn't make sense to me. Forgive me if I'm

> > misunderstanding or just plain stupid here.

> >

> > In your answer to someone about Saturn in the 10th, you talk

> > about "standing" in the 10th with Saturn applying pressure, in

> > essence, on one's head. That got me thinking about the 4th. I

> thought

> > one "stood" in the 4th. Isn't that the house of one's foundation or

> > solid ground? It makes sense that the 10th is the house of goals

> > being that it is out there in the world, above the horizon, and as

> > the highest point in the chart, the place one reaches farthest

> > towards. But wouldn't one's drive or purpose or conviction or will

> be

> > an internal thing? Wouldn't you need a strong inner foundation,

> > strength of character or purpose, to continually reach for anything

> > at all, especially against all odds? Wouldn't that come from below

> > the horizon, internally, from the "core" of one's being and

> therefore

> > the 4th?

> >

> > In the movie Stargate, having the spatial address of a planet you

> > wanted to travel to was useless unless you had the 7th symbol of

> the

> > planet you were starting from. Reaching point B required having a

> > point A. So wouldn't part of one's success in reaching the goals of

> > the 10th come from drive in the 4th?

> >

> > Originally, I asked if the 10th would also represent one's goals or

> > one's purpose because I know someone with no career but with very

> > strong goals/purpose, etc. It seemed to me that this pointed to

> > weakness in the 10th but strength somewhere else. In your answer,

> you

> > seemed to say that success in the 10th doesn't have to be success

> in

> > an established "career". But come to think of it, the person I'm

> > thinking of doesn't really have all that much success achieving

> their

> > goals. They have tremendous drive, a solid idea of their goals,

> > extreme strength of character and a very strong work ethic. With

> one

> > thing or another, though, those goals are elusive little devils.

> This

> > seems to be echoed in the answers of people with Saturn in the 10th

> > who say they work like the dickens but just don't seem to achieve

> in

> > proportion to their efforts.

> >

> > But this seems to be a slightly different case than that of your

> > friend who has neither a career nor, it would seem, do they "do

> > anything" with their life, to quote you. So how strong or weak is

> > your friend's 4th? Or am I full of doodoo on this whole 4th

> > house "drive/purpose" idea?

> >

> > Second question that has come up in thinking about your recent

> > answers: Is what we do to achieve success in the 10th also

> > represented by the 10th? By 'what we do' I'm also including what we

> > do to get in our own way. Going again to your friend. You mention

> her

> > Saturn in the 10th and then go on to imply that her use of the

> > Saturnine 'hammer of truth', if you will, on the toes of everyone

> > around her is possibly part of her lack of success. I'm not sure if

> > you mean that she doesn't have a career because of this or that if

> > she did have a career it might be less than completely successful

> due

> > to this enthusiastic hammering. Or maybe you didn't mean this at

> all.

> > You mentioned this in an answer to someone else stating that maybe

> > they needed to accept some truths they are not accepting in order

> to

> > have greater success. Possibly this was the same gentleman who may

> > not be as Venusian as his more business-successful brothers are,

> I'm

> > not sure, my memory could be wrong here. Anyway if one is

> interested

> > in looking in the chart to see where one is contributing to one's

> own

> > career failings - or to see what one needs to accept/learn/etc to

> > improve one's career, does one look to the 10th? Is that what

> you're

> > saying? Or would you look perhaps into the 9th as the 'career

> losses'

> > or 'self-undoing in regards to career'? There's a logical argument

> in

> > favor of either house, so would you look to both?

> >

> > Anyway, just wondering.

>

>

>

>

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