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Dear Roik,

What a nice post!

Please write!

I have strong Saturn and strong Jupiter in aspect, both aspecting Moon /AK/

in 5th- saving grace is that Ju aspects Lagna too..

As I've written to you already, You'll be your new-better-life-respecting

self, once Sa MD is over- period of Atma karaka as per what I've learnt and

experienced on my own relatively recently, is always difficult. It teaches

us 'tough lessons'- It's blessing when AK is benefic, but even than-is

difficult- with malefic is as you described: splitting pain...

 

But Roik, you returned to your Celtic roots, where you belong, and that's

already visible benefit of Sa AK period- sure you are paying for that

dearly, AK is not about fun-neither is 'moksha' that it leads us to...

'Splitting' in your deeper being started much earlier, when you denied your

own roots and wanted to "convert": your genes, your collective

consciousness, your ancestral inheritance, your debts..to run away from

yourself... It doesn't go away, it's the matter of higher identity and I

strongly believe that there MUST be some purpose that you were born as a

Celtic child!

Pain came with Saturn- you've repaid your debts, almost, you've learnt what

you've had to learn, almost..Keep it that way, please do not go back, that

would only invite more and more pain..

 

I believe in you. God knows how heroic your work is.

May God bless you, dear Roik!

Anna

 

 

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<gjlist>

Wednesday, December 31, 2003 2:52 PM

[GJ] Arun=Detective

 

 

>

> Wow.

>

> Moon in Saturn's signs, Rasi and Navamsa. Saturn rules servants. Moon is

> self. Self is servant. Saturn Serving Guru. Das Gauravani, servant of the

> Vani of Caitanya (God to Gaudiya Vaisnavas/aka Hare Krishna's)

>

> Arun figured that one out. Bravo.

>

> To have highest Guru, and be so Saturn ruled, is so very splitting.

>

> I can barely stand it. I am fodder for the madhouse, like many "geniouses"

> in history.

>

> To understand if you do not, read "Touched by Fire" by Kay Jamieson

>

> Today is one such day. Pure splitting pain. No wonder no woman is with me.

>

> It's like being a deep pit, but above it, the sky opens and you can see

> heaven, but never can you climb out of the pit.

>

> Oh well, gracious acceptance. There's always curling up in the corner

under

> a blanket and waiting.

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> gjlist/

>

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

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>

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Dear Roik,

What a nice post!

Please write!

I have strong Saturn and strong Jupiter in aspect, both aspecting Moon /AK/

in 5th- saving grace is that Ju aspects Lagna too..

As I've written to you already, You'll be your new-better-life-respecting

self, once Sa MD is over- period of Atma karaka as per what I've learnt and

experienced on my own relatively recently, is always difficult. It teaches

us 'tough lessons'- It's blessing when AK is benefic, but even than-is

difficult- with malefic is as you described: splitting pain...

 

But Roik, you returned to your Celtic roots, where you belong, and that's

already visible benefit of Sa AK period- sure you are paying for that

dearly, AK is not about fun-neither is 'moksha' that it leads us to...

'Splitting' in your deeper being started much earlier, when you denied your

own roots and wanted to "convert": your genes, your collective

consciousness, your ancestral inheritance, your debts..to run away from

yourself... It doesn't go away, it's the matter of higher identity and I

strongly believe that there MUST be some purpose that you were born as a

Celtic child!

Pain came with Saturn- you've repaid your debts, almost, you've learnt what

you've had to learn, almost..Keep it that way, please do not go back, that

would only invite more and more pain..

 

I believe in you. God knows how heroic your work is.

May God bless you, dear Roik!

Anna

 

-

"Das Goravani" <>

<gjlist>

Wednesday, December 31, 2003 2:52 PM

[GJ] Arun=Detective

 

 

>

> Wow.

>

> Moon in Saturn's signs, Rasi and Navamsa. Saturn rules servants. Moon is

> self. Self is servant. Saturn Serving Guru. Das Gauravani, servant of the

> Vani of Caitanya (God to Gaudiya Vaisnavas/aka Hare Krishna's)

>

> Arun figured that one out. Bravo.

>

> To have highest Guru, and be so Saturn ruled, is so very splitting.

>

> I can barely stand it. I am fodder for the madhouse, like many "geniouses"

> in history.

>

> To understand if you do not, read "Touched by Fire" by Kay Jamieson

>

> Today is one such day. Pure splitting pain. No wonder no woman is with me.

>

> It's like being a deep pit, but above it, the sky opens and you can see

> heaven, but never can you climb out of the pit.

>

> Oh well, gracious acceptance. There's always curling up in the corner

under

> a blanket and waiting.

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> gjlist/

>

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

>

>

>

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Roik,

 

I have no words to ease your pain..can only send some prayers to see

you through your tough times.....I don't know if you realize that by

undergoing pain and sharing it publicly you are helping many others

in this silent list...not everyone is brave enough to bare their

hearts and mind....but am sure get some solace to see themselves

through their own suffering...

 

Your spiritual turmoil (the bipolar symptoms) is the effect of the

half-animal Archer whose arrow is pointed upwards...and, two heavy

weights - Saturn and Jupiter - energizing it...

 

What else can I say...but to remind you that the 900 or so members in

the list, are with you... waiting....suffering silently... in their

own way...unable to be of any help to you....

 

Loving regards,

Arun

 

"Anantovai Vedah"

 

 

 

gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote:

>

> Wow.

>

> Moon in Saturn's signs, Rasi and Navamsa. Saturn rules servants.

Moon is

> self. Self is servant. Saturn Serving Guru. Das Gauravani, servant

of the

> Vani of Caitanya (God to Gaudiya Vaisnavas/aka Hare Krishna's)

>

> Arun figured that one out. Bravo.

>

> To have highest Guru, and be so Saturn ruled, is so very splitting.

>

> I can barely stand it. I am fodder for the madhouse, like

many "geniouses"

> in history.

>

> To understand if you do not, read "Touched by Fire" by Kay Jamieson

>

> Today is one such day. Pure splitting pain. No wonder no woman is

with me.

>

> It's like being a deep pit, but above it, the sky opens and you can

see

> heaven, but never can you climb out of the pit.

>

> Oh well, gracious acceptance. There's always curling up in the

corner under

> a blanket and waiting.

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