Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Interesting review of my chart dear Christiane, thank you. Jay's comments to Mark, also, good heads up for Mark. I too find it hard to believe he said what he said on face value. Maybe he meant something different and made a large error in choice of words. Or maybe he just meant something about learning to see negatives positively and not really change them materially. One thing for Mark and a Babalul, and Arunuthyan to note, is that I ALWAYS have to APPROVE your emails because, I suppose, you don't have your accounts straight. You come up as new users of the list each time you post, wich slows down your posts because I may forget to "approve" emails for a few days sometimes. I approve, or moderate, because of porn ads which are many, and I am filtering them out. Christiane, things like "Guru Chandala" yoga in my Navamsa- funny, I see things another way. Like, I have forgotten to use these kinds of standard rules and such. I just see it like this: Navamsa- relationships and a link to 9, or things dharmic Guru-religious persons indicated Ketu-renounced persons indicated I've always had relationships with religious, renounced, persons, ie, priest and Sannyasis and those who serve them ardently. I was at first in the Catholic line and going for priesthood, and in high school times was surrogate fathered by them, then in Hare Krishna I was close to the top, serving a Guru, all my friends were intense Hare Krishna's , serious religious and renounced people, and look here, look who I associate with here on this list- many people into yoga, gurus, scriptures, etc. I tend to look at the de facto meanings of planets moreso than rules or names of things...just my style...I know my style works too, but I also know other styles work. There are various styles, or ways, to look at charts. As for what I do best, or what I want to do, it's not to be a traditional Guru in the Hindu sense, that is for sure. I'm not cut out for that. Sometimes I've said some things, even recently, that may have sounded that way, but I was just either boasting around, or having fun, or poking provocations at the list, or such. To have people come to me for spiritual guidance is too formal for me. Talking more casually, sharing, that I'm comfortable with. So far in life, I am not wanting, or able, to the top dog as you pointed out. That's not my post. When things were good with my first Guru in Iskcon around 79 to 81, and I was close to him and being supportive, as you say, yes, I did good at that. Yes, Sridhar Maharaj named me Raghunandan das, and strictly speaking, this refers to Lord Ramacandra directly. He is the "son of the Raghu dynasty". And das makes me his servant. It would have to have a second das on it to indicate Hanuman. But that's nit picky. Your post was still good. I had an ecstatic vision only once in life, and it was a monkey god, visiting me, and showing me vaikuntha. It was awesome and incredible and real, a real vision. So my closest contact with Divinity has been through someone who sure looked like that person whom we all know as Hanuman. roik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Roik, I understand that my messages are being approved by you and it is taking time to get posted. It is fine by me as I consider that timing of anything will be as per divine plan. Recently, I set up a new id for messages from the list to better manage all the emails I receive. This may have caused it. The "Guru-Chandala" yoga can be interpreted in several ways and in my view, need not be considered negative. I think it denotes the following: - a guru (guide) for chandalas (people considered lowly be the world) - a guru whose methods of teaching may be quite non-traditional - some one who may get a guru, who turns out to be someone low (a chandala) The same yoga can produce different results at different points in one's life. I think you are correct in saying that any guru you choose will be a renunciate, because of Ketu. Also note, Ketu is considered by many as a natural "Gnana Karaka", who gives genius-type insight into spirituality. On a lighter note...Do you realize all of Rama's servants had to be either away from their wives or be a brahmachari (single)....while serving Him... Why the Lord himself, had to be away from Mother Sita most of their married life...to the extent that in many places in North India, there are folk songs which say we don't want a son-in- law like Rama... Loving regards, Arun "Anantovai Vedah" gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > Interesting review of my chart dear Christiane, thank you. > > Jay's comments to Mark, also, good heads up for Mark. I too find it hard to > believe he said what he said on face value. Maybe he meant something > different and made a large error in choice of words. Or maybe he just meant > something about learning to see negatives positively and not really change > them materially. > > One thing for Mark and a Babalul, and Arunuthyan to note, is that I ALWAYS > have to APPROVE your emails because, I suppose, you don't have your > accounts straight. You come up as new users of the list each time you post, > wich slows down your posts because I may forget to "approve" emails for a > few days sometimes. I approve, or moderate, because of porn ads which are > many, and I am filtering them out. > > Christiane, things like "Guru Chandala" yoga in my Navamsa- funny, I see > things another way. Like, I have forgotten to use these kinds of standard > rules and such. I just see it like this: > > Navamsa- relationships and a link to 9, or things dharmic > Guru-religious persons indicated > Ketu-renounced persons indicated > > I've always had relationships with religious, renounced, persons, ie, priest > and Sannyasis and those who serve them ardently. I was at first in the > Catholic line and going for priesthood, and in high school times was > surrogate fathered by them, then in Hare Krishna I was close to the top, > serving a Guru, all my friends were intense Hare Krishna's , serious > religious and renounced people, and look here, look who I associate with > here on this list- many people into yoga, gurus, scriptures, etc. > > I tend to look at the de facto meanings of planets moreso than rules or > names of things...just my style...I know my style works too, but I also know > other styles work. There are various styles, or ways, to look at charts. > > As for what I do best, or what I want to do, it's not to be a traditional > Guru in the Hindu sense, that is for sure. I'm not cut out for that. > Sometimes I've said some things, even recently, that may have sounded that > way, but I was just either boasting around, or having fun, or poking > provocations at the list, or such. To have people come to me for spiritual > guidance is too formal for me. Talking more casually, sharing, that I'm > comfortable with. So far in life, I am not wanting, or able, to the top dog > as you pointed out. That's not my post. When things were good with my first > Guru in Iskcon around 79 to 81, and I was close to him and being supportive, > as you say, yes, I did good at that. > > Yes, Sridhar Maharaj named me Raghunandan das, and strictly speaking, this > refers to Lord Ramacandra directly. He is the "son of the Raghu dynasty". > And das makes me his servant. It would have to have a second das on it to > indicate Hanuman. But that's nit picky. Your post was still good. I had an > ecstatic vision only once in life, and it was a monkey god, visiting me, and > showing me vaikuntha. It was awesome and incredible and real, a real vision. > So my closest contact with Divinity has been through someone who sure looked > like that person whom we all know as Hanuman. > > roik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 --- Das Goravani <> wrote: > > Interesting review of my chart dear Christiane, > thank you. Thanks Das, I was worried for bit that you might not like it.> > Ja > Christiane, things like "Guru Chandala" yoga in my > Navamsa- funny, I see > things another way. Like, I have forgotten to use > these kinds of standard > rules and such. Guru Chandala is the name of that yoga. Doesn't sound very nice, does it. In former days it would have disqualified us from studying Jyotish, but even K.N. Rao says, that its indications have changed somewhat in modern times. I have it myself and for me it stands for a foreign husband and foreign religion, foreign Guru. Jupiter is Lo10 for me and as a psycholgist I have been working with all sorts of addicts, criminals, psychotics, immigrants. People that would have been termed chandalas in vedic times. .. > > I tend to look at the de facto meanings of planets > moreso than rules or > names of things...just my style...I know my style Exactly, this is the influence of that yoga. It makes you a non-conformist. Nothing wrong with that, these days. Of course there area various style > > As for what I do best, or what I want to do, it's > not to be a traditional > Guru in the Hindu sense, that is for sure. I'm not > cut out for that. It would be impossible anyway for you to become a traditional indian Guru, dearest Richard. > Sometimes I've said some things, even recently, that > may have sounded that > way, but I was just either boasting around, or > having fun, or poking > provocations at the list, or such. Good > when things were good with my first > Guru in Iskcon around 79 to 81, and I was close to > him and being supportive, > as you say, yes, I did good at that. I am sure you were wonderful > I had an > ecstatic vision only once in life, and it was a > monkey god, visiting me, and > showing me vaikuntha. It was awesome and incredible > and real, a real vision. > So my closest contact with Divinity has been through > someone who sure looked > like that person whom we all know as Hanuman. I am happy to have been able to connect to your vision. There must be significance in it. Sincerely, Christiana > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat > Sat > : > gjlist- > > > > Links > > > gjlist/ > > > gjlist > > Your > > > Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 http://search./top2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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