Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Dear List, Vargas , or squares in mathematics, Division or Varga or parts of a sign in Astrology. A house of 360 divided into 12 rooms. and every room further divided into various squares, this makes the Divisional charts. Here only ascendent point is important , no 10th house or no relevamcy in any way if one is born in USA or INDIA. Does no other person born at earth at the moment and degree when Rama or Krishna Born,or does there was no production when Indira or Lata or Swami Vivekanand take birth in other parts of world. Why we dont know other persons who took birth during the same combinations at other places on this earth ? Does Divisonal Chart at a particular time made any difference? No not at all. In the moment Moon degree might have changed but not any other thing with a very minute difference.If any thing change then it is Cusp chart with different patterns as per place of the birth. Those who give reference to Prashra for aspects in Divisional chart , if Prashra refered to aspects in the Divisional Chart then why he did not consider them giving a name in strength of the planets and shadbala does not include the aspect strength.In the method for calculating vishawa bala he does not refer to any aspects. If we consider the aspects in Divisional Chart then we will have to give different strength patterns for each Division. Varga is like Divsions , rooms in a house. When it is Hora the members of a house are divided into two , who are Moon minded and are thus weak and who are sun minded and are tough. The House is thus divided into two shows different patterns of the members of the house like this planet shows by their occupying a position in a sign. Navmasha shows relationship , it shows the position of young couple of the family in bed room. One is Upasana Room , one is study room. A division is not a full sign , it can not be . As a varga/division do reflect a unit but is not complete. You may make a part of the house very good looking , but it will be evaluated and add to the whole house only . Prashar Horashastra evaluate the planets Divsion by their respective strength in the Rashi Chart . When it says that Divsion of a combust or planet in fall is bad, it further gives strength when it says that planets in angles from asc or Adhan Lagna angle are strong. It links the Rashi Chart with the Division Chart. In one yaoga it has been said that the Navmasha Lord of exalted planets in angle in Rashi chart is a Rajyoga. There are many such combination in Nadi which descroibe the use of Divsion Chart , but I was not able to trace the use of aspects in anywhere except from some moderen astrologers. They use Badhka more often and forget that Prashar gives Yogakarka position to Saturan for Tauras Lagna , called badhka for tauras. With best wishes, Inder Jit Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Dear Mr. Sahni: You have raised a very good point regarding the aspects in Divisional charts. No text has ever given anything about using aspects in divisional charts. They only emphasize on seeing the strength of a planet in the charts. Astrologers these days refer to yogas even which are formed in divisional charts. But i dont think they have any relevance. They might come in play in that area of life which that divisional chart refers. I havent researched it though. So if the members have any experience on this they are welcome to share with me. According to Purvaparashari principles there are references to seeing the strength of a house in the related divisional chart (like seeing strength of 7th house in Navamsha and so on). In Satyachari Nadi Hora is seen in a different way. Instead of putting all the planets in the rasis of Sun & Moon. Planets in the first 15 degrees stay in the same house and the second 15 degrees go into the 11th house from the respective sign. So the hora is made like any other divisional chart and can be interpreted accordly and it does give spectular results about wealth of an individual. Mr Sawhney can you please explain us how to see positions of the young couple of the family thru Navamsha. It would be a great research if you can explain us the technique. With Best regards Gaurav Kapur Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Dear Mr Kapur, > In Satyachari Nadi Hora is seen in a different way. > Instead of putting all the planets in the rasis of Sun > & Moon. Planets in the first 15 degrees stay in the > same house and the second 15 degrees go into the 11th > house from the respective sign. So the hora is made > like any other divisional chart and can be interpreted > accordly and it does give spectular results about > wealth of an individual.> The hora you are describing has been discussed by Varahmihir in Brihijjatakam and is orignated from Yavaneshwar; Like this there are different schools for Dreshkan, and Trinshash. One must remember that while making Hora Chart , Cancer and Leo represent Moon and Sun and not the complete sign Cancer and Leo, in the same way Dreshkan has been divided in 10 degrees each. Indian system is as is in Prashara Shastra but Yawan Syatem is for the 1st part same lord for 2nd the 12th lord and for the 3rd the 11th lord. Here too the signs are refered for ease but these are not complete signs. Another Yawan way is for movable signs same sign 5th and 9th sign for fix signs the 1st dreshkan is 9th sign, 2nd is same sign and 3rd is 5th sign. For dual signs 1st dreshkana will fall in 5th 2nd in 9th and 3rd in the same sign. Here sign is only a reference the main thurst is lord of that sign. In these types the 1st Yawan method is suggested for Horary astrology, For Natal the Yavan give weightage to different patterns for movable fix and dual signs placement but for electional astrology the Yavaneshwar refer to the same Indian Prashari system. The only Indian author which accepted the Yawan sign type based anology of Dreshkan system. In the same way Yawan 5th Division is Indian Trinshash the difference is in Indian system the odd division is from 5,5,8,7 and 5 and for even signs it is 5,7,8,5,5 the lordships goes too Mars, saturan jupiter mercury and venus in case of odd signs and venus, mercury,jupiter,saturan and mars. And you need not neccessarily draw a chart and place the signs and palnets in them , instead you can draw a table and write the planets in different Varga. Thus rashi is refered for reference of planet and is no way a complete rashi as in natal chart. Some new modern astrlogers teaching around the world are making great loss to the astrology by giving wrong meaning to the Rashi of Division as the same as rashi in Natal. Some give autheticity to two newly traced versus called as Varidhkarikaye in favor of Hora and Dreshkana, these are Revolving the Zodiac twice in 15 degrees subdivision , for dreshkan revolving in 10 degree division and adopting the same method for Trinshash 30 degrees for each sign. And yet they claim that these were traditional secrets of their family. > Mr Sawhney can you please explain us how to see > positions of the young couple of the family thru > Navamsha. It would be a great research if you can > explain us the technique. There are many hints in the Nadi as well in Prashar Grantha, trace the Divisional Charts connection in the Natal Chart. Navmasha Chart can be used for all the spheres of life. One such combination is about 64rth Navmasha, lord if is with Saturan or Rahu Ketu in Natal chart in 6th 8th or 12th house then it cause death by hanging or unnatural death. Here sage has refered to 64rth Navmasha which becomes 8th house, from Moon or Asc. With Moon they had given the weightage to physical body and with Asc they had given weighatge to subtle body. But saying 64rth Navmasha they had not compromisede with longitude , which is neccessary to judge a bhava or aspect. Otherwise they could have said look for the 4rth house in Navmasha chart from ascendent or Moon. This combination work on Indira Gandhi , Nathu Ram Godsey , Julfikar Ali Bhuto Chart. Thus with this sages has given a key, thus we can say; that if 64rth navmasha lord is well placed and occupies angles or trines and is friendly to the Asc Navmasha lord in the Natal Chart then it should give good age. The 55th navmasha lord will refer to 7th house, its lord well placed in natal and in good combination either from ac or Venus will good married life. 73rd Navmasha will refer to 9th house and will be same where Navmasha sign falls , thus its lord and lord of Jupiter Navmasha well placed in Natal will give/cause grace and good luck. With Best wishes, Inder Jt Sahni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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