Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which more? Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect this ketu and what he does? Does anyone know these things? Thanks. YS, Tulasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Dear Tulasi Devi Hare Krishna You need to consider things from different angles and then make an overall assessment . The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are conjunct other planets . Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to being in Cancer . Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an upachaya but it is also a dusthana . Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is friendly to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign . For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite malefic effects . A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much impact they have . The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems Approach of V K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web . Hope this helps Nicholas - "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000 <gjlist> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > more? > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect > this ketu and what he does? > > Does anyone know these things? > > Thanks. > > YS, > Tulasi Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Links > > > gjlist/ > > > gjlist > > Your > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Thanks Nicholas, Yes, this helps. I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring. Tulasi gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > Dear Tulasi Devi > Hare Krishna > You need to consider things from different angles and then make an overall > assessment . > The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are conjunct > other planets . > Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to being in > Cancer . > Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an upachaya but it > is also a dusthana . > Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is friendly > to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign . > For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite malefic > effects . > A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much impact > they have . > The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems Approach of V > K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web . > > Hope this helps > Nicholas > - > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000> > <gjlist> > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > > more? > > > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect > > this ketu and what he does? > > > > Does anyone know these things? > > > > Thanks. > > > > YS, > > Tulasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Nicholas, After rereading your reply, I have a few questions. Sorry I didn't think of them right away. First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic effects of the house? Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the 8th. For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have lord of 12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th. This is Viparita yoga. Would this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house? (Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.) Thanks. Tulasi gjlist, "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000> wrote: > Thanks Nicholas, > > Yes, this helps. > > I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house > with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring. > > Tulasi > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > > Dear Tulasi Devi > > Hare Krishna > > You need to consider things from different angles and then make an > overall > > assessment . > > The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are > conjunct > > other planets . > > Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to > being in > > Cancer . > > Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an > upachaya but it > > is also a dusthana . > > Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is > friendly > > to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign . > > For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite > malefic > > effects . > > A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much > impact > > they have . > > The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems > Approach of V > > K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web . > > > > Hope this helps > > Nicholas > > - > > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000> > > <gjlist> > > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM > > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > > > > > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising > person. > > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), > so > > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > > > > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > > > > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > > > > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the > details > > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > > > > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily > influenced by > > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > > > more? > > > > > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, > but > > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that > effect > > > this ketu and what he does? > > > > > > Does anyone know these things? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > YS, > > > Tulasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Dear Tulasi > First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic > effects of the house? Mercury is 5th Lord and 8th Lord not a yogakaraka > > Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the 8th. > For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have lord of > 12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th. 12th in 8th is quite good according to sage Parasara . But 8th Lord in 6th is not good in my experience . It will give major diputes or illnesses . 5th Lord in 6th is not good either This is Viparita yoga. Would > this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house? Viparita Yoga must include only dusthana Lords . Since Sun is not a dusthana Lord the yoga is spoiled . > > (Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that > plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.) Retrogression can be a source of strength but should not be overestimated compared to other more important factors N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Consider Ketu as ( a ) a malefic having it's own effects (b) as a shadow of it's house Lord ( c) as a shadow of it's co-tenants N - "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000 <gjlist> Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:37 AM Re: [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > Thanks Nicholas, > > Yes, this helps. > > I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house > with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring. > > Tulasi > > gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > > Dear Tulasi Devi > > Hare Krishna > > You need to consider things from different angles and then make an > overall > > assessment . > > The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are > conjunct > > other planets . > > Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to > being in > > Cancer . > > Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an > upachaya but it > > is also a dusthana . > > Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is > friendly > > to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign . > > For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite > malefic > > effects . > > A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much > impact > > they have . > > The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems > Approach of V > > K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web . > > > > Hope this helps > > Nicholas > > - > > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000> > > <gjlist> > > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM > > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > > > > > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising > person. > > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), > so > > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > > > > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > > > > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > > > > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the > details > > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > > > > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily > influenced by > > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > > > more? > > > > > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, > but > > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that > effect > > > this ketu and what he does? > > > > > > Does anyone know these things? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > YS, > > > Tulasi > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Links > > > gjlist/ > > > gjlist > > Your > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th. The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and debt, which is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life. Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach. It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see. There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3 persons. The sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and flavor of the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th house in the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc. Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the light givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the persons life energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and mind, Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger than the moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart. The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and ultimate total bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death on them. So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit, truth, etc. That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart. Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person work, 6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are so key in the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease, which causes them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life. This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that dwells on Ketu things, and their life force will be affected. this is how I would think on it anyway. Rick Goravani > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000 > gjlist > Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000 > gjlist > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > more? > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect > this ketu and what he does? > > Does anyone know these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 This is not exactly related to the conjunctions of the shadowy planets! What I have heard is the Pluto is also one of the planets that may not be so favorable. What I have heard is that it negates all the positive effects given by the other........ Das Goravani [] Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:46 PM gjlist Re: [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th. The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and debt, which is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life. Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach. It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see. There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3 persons. The sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and flavor of the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th house in the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc. Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the light givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the persons life energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and mind, Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger than the moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart. The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and ultimate total bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death on them. So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit, truth, etc. That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart. Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person work, 6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are so key in the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease, which causes them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life. This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that dwells on Ketu things, and their life force will be affected. this is how I would think on it anyway. Rick Goravani > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000 > gjlist > Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000 > gjlist > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > more? > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect > this ketu and what he does? > > Does anyone know these things? Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat : gjlist- gjlist/ gjlist Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka for said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out this much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka? Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel Viparita yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil its good effects? Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I don't so often see that. Tulasi gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > Dear Tulasi > > First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic > > effects of the house? > > Mercury is 5th Lord and 8th Lord not a yogakaraka > > > > Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the 8th. > > For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have lord of > > 12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th. > > 12th in 8th is quite good according to sage Parasara . But 8th Lord in 6th > is not good in my experience . It will give major diputes or illnesses . 5th > Lord in 6th is not good either > > > > This is Viparita yoga. Would > > this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house? > > Viparita Yoga must include only dusthana Lords . Since Sun is not a dusthana > Lord the yoga is spoiled . > > > > (Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that > > plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.) > > Retrogression can be a source of strength but should not be overestimated > compared to other more important factors > > N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 GV, Fascinating way you have explained this! I do charts fairly well but always trouble I have had with conjunctions. You pointed out native will think much about death, and actually she told me often she thinks about this. Not morbidly. It appears to be serving in the sense it is increasing seriousness in spiritual life. I felt this was from Rahu in 12th and Saturn in 8th, but now I see may also be Ketu in 6th. You are also correct that the luminaries have played a large role. Sun as health (she has chronic health conditions but also studies health and quite knowledgeable = 6th house). Her moon for emotions, she is not emotional in the sense of letting emotions jerk her around, but she is very sensitive and aware maybe to a fault. Her moon is malefic lord of 4 in 6, though its exalted in 4th and direct in Tau. This is a rough chart, though not much malefic regarding her lifestyle, probably because she is a devotee. She has recently gone through the worst of malefic Jupiter Mahadas peroid which is winding down. Even her children were taken away for a period of time by no fault of her own during her maha Jupiter period, her husband nearly threw her out cuz he wanted a new woman, so she was almost homeless and living where not very welcomed, though finally her and husband worked things out, but there was great suffering jup mahadas (Jupiter in 3rd in Aries). When I told her that she has saturn in 8th which should bring good changes, she is now happy and looking forward to her upcoming Saturn period. Then I thought about Saturn in in 8th in Virgo/Mercury's distributorship with merc as lord of 6th, so I became concerned again. Since conjunctions are my weakness, I didn't want to say anything more to her until I got that figured out, and how much it will effect her upcoming Saturn period. This may be a little less direct but maybe it will cancel or reduce malefic effects of Sun 12 houses from own sign, is that benefic Venus is in 7th / Leo and this time I'm pretty sure I am accurate that this one is yogakaraka. Doubt that will give much help for saturn mahadas though. Except when transiting or in bhuktis. 7th house lord/sun is in 6th so maybe divorce or separation anyway. Though she has hinted she may not mind at this point. However does not know if she will be facilitated to work or take care of herself. She has a RajaYoga Mars lord of 10 in 9th. Shortly after she went into Mars Bhukti last summer, even though still in Jupiter Mahadasa, some of the suffering lifted. Some financial gain finally came her way as she has been almost poverty striken even though a hard worker, all attempts to make money would never succeed previously. Now she makes part time job moneies, but health and physical strength are still weak. If you have any good news I can share with her, and a few minutes to spare, please let me know so I can pass it on. I am not going to say much more to her at this point until I have something hopeful to tell her. Thanks. Tulasi gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > > Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th. > > The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and debt, which > is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life. > > Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach. > > It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see. > > There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3 persons. The > sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and flavor of > the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th house in > the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc. > > Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the light > givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the persons life > energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and mind, > Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger than the > moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart. > > The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and ultimate total > bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour > materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death on them. > So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit, truth, etc. > That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart. > > Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person work, > 6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are so key in > the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease, which causes > them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life. > > This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that dwells on > Ketu things, and their life force will be affected. > > this is how I would think on it anyway. > > Rick Goravani > > > > > > > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000> > > gjlist > > Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000 > > gjlist > > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets > > > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person. > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi, > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides? > > > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun? > > > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign? > > > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet. > > > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which > > more? > > > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect > > this ketu and what he does? > > > > Does anyone know these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Dear Tulasi > Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka for > said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out this > much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program > says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth > house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished > yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka? A yogakaraka is a planet that rules a quadrant and trine > > Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana > Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that > the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel Viparita > yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil its > good effects? A Raja Yoga is literally a yoga that will lift you to kingly heights . Now if the malefics are placed in malefic houses that means the benefic houses are unimpeded. So it is good for the overall strength of the chart . But if the malefics are with a benfic in a malefic house that benefic really gets hammered both by being in a dusthana and by conjunction with a malefic . So it is not a factor for raising a person high . > > Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I don't > so often see that. The nodes sometimes move forward slowly for a short period of time . It usually doesn't make much difference . Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 What you say makes sense via yogakarakas and mercury. Simply I wasn't going to argue with the maker of the computer program. I don't know why he programed it that way. I have also seen him program some other things in there which I questioned. Since I am not as senior in astrology as he is, I figured he knew what he was doing. Maybe he knows something most dont, because he seems quite expert. However, if he doesnt expalain why, like why he is stating merc in this placment is a yogakaraka, I tend to agree with you. Her RajaYoga is not in the dushtana house and not connected to her Merc. It is Mars in the 9th in Libra, and lord of 10 in 9. Just a month or two after entering her RajaYoga Mars Bhukti, she immediately got a part time job, a gift of money, and some obstacles to spiriutal life began to lift. More is needed, but it appears this Mars is RajaYoga is functional. Tulasi gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote: > Dear Tulasi > > > > > Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka for > > said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out this > > much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program > > says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth > > house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished > > yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka? > > A yogakaraka is a planet that rules a quadrant and trine > > > > Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana > > Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that > > the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel Viparita > > yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil its > > good effects? > > A Raja Yoga is literally a yoga that will lift you to kingly heights . Now > if the malefics are placed in malefic houses that means the benefic houses > are unimpeded. > So it is good for the overall strength of the chart . But if the malefics > are with a benfic in a malefic house that benefic really gets hammered both > by being in a dusthana and by conjunction with a malefic . So it is not a > factor for raising a person high . > > > > > Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I don't > > so often see that. > > The nodes sometimes move forward slowly for a short period of time . It > usually doesn't make much difference . > > Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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