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So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person.

Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so

maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

 

Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

 

Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

 

There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details

of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

 

Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by

those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

more?

 

Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but

Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect

this ketu and what he does?

 

Does anyone know these things?

 

Thanks.

 

YS,

Tulasi

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Dear Tulasi Devi

Hare Krishna

You need to consider things from different angles and then make an overall

assessment .

The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are conjunct

other planets .

Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to being in

Cancer .

Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an upachaya but it

is also a dusthana .

Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is friendly

to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign .

For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite malefic

effects .

A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much impact

they have .

The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems Approach of V

K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web .

 

Hope this helps

Nicholas

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"tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000

<gjlist>

Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM

[GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

 

 

> So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person.

> Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so

> maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

>

> Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

>

> Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

>

> There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details

> of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

>

> Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by

> those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> more?

>

> Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but

> Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect

> this ketu and what he does?

>

> Does anyone know these things?

>

> Thanks.

>

> YS,

> Tulasi

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

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Thanks Nicholas,

 

Yes, this helps.

 

I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house

with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring.

 

Tulasi

 

gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> Dear Tulasi Devi

> Hare Krishna

> You need to consider things from different angles and then make an

overall

> assessment .

> The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are

conjunct

> other planets .

> Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to

being in

> Cancer .

> Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an

upachaya but it

> is also a dusthana .

> Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is

friendly

> to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign .

> For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite

malefic

> effects .

> A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much

impact

> they have .

> The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems

Approach of V

> K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web .

>

> Hope this helps

> Nicholas

> -

> "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000>

> <gjlist>

> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM

> [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

>

>

> > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising

person.

> > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon),

so

> > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

> >

> > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

> >

> > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

> >

> > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the

details

> > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

> >

> > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily

influenced by

> > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> > more?

> >

> > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good,

but

> > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that

effect

> > this ketu and what he does?

> >

> > Does anyone know these things?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > YS,

> > Tulasi

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Nicholas,

 

After rereading your reply, I have a few questions. Sorry I didn't

think of them right away.

 

First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic

effects of the house?

 

Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the 8th.

For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have lord of

12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th. This is Viparita yoga. Would

this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house?

 

(Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that

plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.)

 

Thanks.

 

Tulasi

 

 

gjlist, "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000>

wrote:

> Thanks Nicholas,

>

> Yes, this helps.

>

> I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house

> with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring.

>

> Tulasi

>

> gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Tulasi Devi

> > Hare Krishna

> > You need to consider things from different angles and then make

an

> overall

> > assessment .

> > The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they

are

> conjunct

> > other planets .

> > Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited

to

> being in

> > Cancer .

> > Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an

> upachaya but it

> > is also a dusthana .

> > Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon

is

> friendly

> > to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign .

> > For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give

quite

> malefic

> > effects .

> > A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much

> impact

> > they have .

> > The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems

> Approach of V

> > K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the

web .

> >

> > Hope this helps

> > Nicholas

> > -

> > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000>

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM

> > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

> >

> >

> > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising

> person.

> > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of

ravi,

> > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship

(moon),

> so

> > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon

provides?

> > >

> > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

> > >

> > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

> > >

> > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the

> details

> > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

> > >

> > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily

> influenced by

> > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but

which

> > > more?

> > >

> > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not

good,

> but

> > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that

> effect

> > > this ketu and what he does?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know these things?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > YS,

> > > Tulasi

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Dear Tulasi

> First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic

> effects of the house?

 

Mercury is 5th Lord and 8th Lord not a yogakaraka

>

> Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the 8th.

> For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have lord of

> 12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th.

 

12th in 8th is quite good according to sage Parasara . But 8th Lord in 6th

is not good in my experience . It will give major diputes or illnesses . 5th

Lord in 6th is not good either

 

 

 

This is Viparita yoga. Would

> this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house?

 

Viparita Yoga must include only dusthana Lords . Since Sun is not a dusthana

Lord the yoga is spoiled .

>

> (Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that

> plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.)

 

Retrogression can be a source of strength but should not be overestimated

compared to other more important factors

 

N

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Consider Ketu as ( a ) a malefic having it's own effects

(b) as a shadow of it's house Lord

( c) as a shadow of it's co-tenants

N

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"tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000

<gjlist>

Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:37 AM

Re: [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

 

 

> Thanks Nicholas,

>

> Yes, this helps.

>

> I guess I should mostly view ketu as the planet he shares the house

> with, and more at the malefic qualities they bring.

>

> Tulasi

>

> gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> > Dear Tulasi Devi

> > Hare Krishna

> > You need to consider things from different angles and then make an

> overall

> > assessment .

> > The nodes are generally malefic and so it is not good if they are

> conjunct

> > other planets .

> > Mercury is not well placed in the 6th house and not well suited to

> being in

> > Cancer .

> > Sun's placement in the 6th is a little mixed since it is an

> upachaya but it

> > is also a dusthana .

> > Sun's placement in Cancer is also a little mixed since the Moon is

> friendly

> > to Sun but Sun also finds itself 12 houses from it's own sign .

> > For Aquarius Mercury also rules the 8th house and so can give quite

> malefic

> > effects .

> > A lot depends on the closeness of the conjunctions as to how much

> impact

> > they have .

> > The easiest system to learn for early learners is the Systems

> Approach of V

> > K Choudhry for which a lot of informations is available on the web .

> >

> > Hope this helps

> > Nicholas

> > -

> > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000>

> > <gjlist>

> > Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:44 AM

> > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

> >

> >

> > > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising

> person.

> > > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> > > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> > > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon),

> so

> > > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

> > >

> > > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

> > >

> > > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

> > >

> > > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the

> details

> > > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

> > >

> > > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily

> influenced by

> > > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> > > more?

> > >

> > > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good,

> but

> > > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that

> effect

> > > this ketu and what he does?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know these things?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > YS,

> > > Tulasi

>

>

>

>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

>

>

> Links

>

>

> gjlist/

>

>

> gjlist

>

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Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th.

 

The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and debt, which

is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life.

 

Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach.

 

It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see.

 

There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3 persons. The

sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and flavor of

the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th house in

the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc.

 

Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the light

givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the persons life

energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and mind,

Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger than the

moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart.

 

The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and ultimate total

bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour

materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death on them.

So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit, truth, etc.

That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart.

 

Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person work,

6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are so key in

the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease, which causes

them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life.

 

This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that dwells on

Ketu things, and their life force will be affected.

 

this is how I would think on it anyway.

 

Rick Goravani

 

 

 

 

 

> "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000

> gjlist

> Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000

> gjlist

> [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

>

> So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person.

> Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so

> maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

>

> Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

>

> Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

>

> There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details

> of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

>

> Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by

> those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> more?

>

> Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but

> Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect

> this ketu and what he does?

>

> Does anyone know these things?

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This is not exactly related to the conjunctions of the shadowy planets! What

I have heard is the Pluto is also one of the planets that may not be so

favorable. What I have heard is that it negates all the positive effects

given by the other........

 

 

 

Das Goravani []

Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:46 PM

gjlist

Re: [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

 

 

 

Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th.

 

The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and debt, which

is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life.

 

Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach.

 

It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see.

 

There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3 persons. The

sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and flavor of

the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th house in

the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc.

 

Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the light

givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the persons life

energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and mind,

Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger than the

moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart.

 

The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and ultimate total

bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour

materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death on them.

So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit, truth, etc.

That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart.

 

Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person work,

6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are so key in

the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease, which causes

them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life.

 

This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that dwells on

Ketu things, and their life force will be affected.

 

this is how I would think on it anyway.

 

Rick Goravani

 

 

 

 

 

> "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000

> gjlist

> Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000

> gjlist

> [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

>

> So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising person.

> Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon), so

> maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

>

> Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

>

> Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

>

> There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the details

> of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

>

> Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily influenced by

> those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> more?

>

> Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good, but

> Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that effect

> this ketu and what he does?

>

> Does anyone know these things?

 

 

 

 

Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

: gjlist-

 

 

 

 

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Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka for

said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out this

much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program

says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth

house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished

yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka?

 

Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana

Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that

the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel Viparita

yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil its

good effects?

 

Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I don't

so often see that.

 

Tulasi

 

gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> Dear Tulasi

> > First, Mercury is a Yogakaraka. Would not that reduce its malefic

> > effects of the house?

>

> Mercury is 5th Lord and 8th Lord not a yogakaraka

> >

> > Next, 8th house is malefic by nature, saturn is poisted in the

8th.

> > For aqu rising, saturn is benefic. With saturn there, we have

lord of

> > 12th in 8th, and lord of 8th in 6th.

>

> 12th in 8th is quite good according to sage Parasara . But 8th Lord

in 6th

> is not good in my experience . It will give major diputes or

illnesses . 5th

> Lord in 6th is not good either

>

>

>

> This is Viparita yoga. Would

> > this cancel the malefic effects of the 6th house?

>

> Viparita Yoga must include only dusthana Lords . Since Sun is not a

dusthana

> Lord the yoga is spoiled .

> >

> > (Forgot to mention last time merc is retrograde. Not sure how that

> > plays into the equation - as far as modifications are concerned.)

>

> Retrogression can be a source of strength but should not be

overestimated

> compared to other more important factors

>

> N

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GV, Fascinating way you have explained this! I do charts fairly well

but always trouble I have had with conjunctions. You pointed out

native will think much about death, and actually she told me often

she thinks about this. Not morbidly. It appears to be serving in the

sense it is increasing seriousness in spiritual life. I felt this was

from Rahu in 12th and Saturn in 8th, but now I see may also be Ketu

in 6th.

 

You are also correct that the luminaries have played a large role.

Sun as health (she has chronic health conditions but also studies

health and quite knowledgeable = 6th house). Her moon for emotions,

she is not emotional in the sense of letting emotions jerk her

around, but she is very sensitive and aware maybe to a fault. Her

moon is malefic lord of 4 in 6, though its exalted in 4th and direct

in Tau.

 

This is a rough chart, though not much malefic regarding her

lifestyle, probably because she is a devotee.

 

She has recently gone through the worst of malefic Jupiter Mahadas

peroid which is winding down. Even her children were taken away for a

period of time by no fault of her own during her maha Jupiter period,

her husband nearly threw her out cuz he wanted a new woman, so she

was almost homeless and living where not very welcomed, though

finally her and husband worked things out, but there was great

suffering jup mahadas (Jupiter in 3rd in Aries). When I told her that

she has saturn in 8th which should bring good changes, she is now

happy and looking forward to her upcoming Saturn period. Then I

thought about Saturn in in 8th in Virgo/Mercury's distributorship

with merc as lord of 6th, so I became concerned again. Since

conjunctions are my weakness, I didn't want to say anything more to

her until I got that figured out, and how much it will effect her

upcoming Saturn period.

 

This may be a little less direct but maybe it will cancel or reduce

malefic effects of Sun 12 houses from own sign, is that benefic Venus

is in 7th / Leo and this time I'm pretty sure I am accurate that this

one is yogakaraka. :) Doubt that will give much help for saturn

mahadas though. Except when transiting or in bhuktis. 7th house

lord/sun is in 6th so maybe divorce or separation anyway. Though she

has hinted she may not mind at this point. :) However does not know

if she will be facilitated to work or take care of herself. She has a

RajaYoga Mars lord of 10 in 9th. Shortly after she went into Mars

Bhukti last summer, even though still in Jupiter Mahadasa, some of

the suffering lifted. Some financial gain finally came her way as she

has been almost poverty striken even though a hard worker, all

attempts to make money would never succeed previously. Now she makes

part time job moneies, but health and physical strength are still

weak.

 

If you have any good news I can share with her, and a few minutes to

spare, please let me know so I can pass it on. I am not going to say

much more to her at this point until I have something hopeful to tell

her. Thanks.

 

Tulasi

 

 

 

gjlist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote:

>

>

> Ketu, Sun, and Moon in Cancer in 6th.

>

> The queen rules over service and yucky things like disease and

debt, which

> is what causes service, the basic stuff of dealing with life.

>

> Never mind the rules, think of the people, that will be my approach.

>

> It's the queen, the king, and the sannyasi, or the saint, you see.

>

> There are many personalities we could correctly assign these 3

persons. The

> sum of their gathering together, or meeting, is the outcome and

flavor of

> the house, and thus the flavor of those things signified by the 6th

house in

> the persons life, or the life of the prashna, entity, etc.

>

> Firstly, sun and moon are key players, the top, the luminaries, the

light

> givers in the science of light, so this means the focus of the

persons life

> energy will be here. Their life energy, Sun, and their emotions and

mind,

> Moon, will be focused on 6th house matters if the lagna is stronger

than the

> moon, which it may not be, may be, depending on rest of chart.

>

> The Sannyasi, Ketu, being surrounded by the air of death and

ultimate total

> bitter reality, always makes others uneasy. He makes things go sour

> materially. He turns everybody serious and places an air of death

on them.

> So the life force, the mind and emotions, all go towards spirit,

truth, etc.

> That's why you're here on this list if this is your chart.

>

> Being in the sixth, this is a natural combination to make a person

work,

> 6th, in the field of death, Ketu, since the other two planets are

so key in

> the life. Also, they may have some serious condition, disease,

which causes

> them to deal with lifelong or seriously in alot of life.

>

> This is an odd mix materially, and will make them have a mind that

dwells on

> Ketu things, and their life force will be affected.

>

> this is how I would think on it anyway.

>

> Rick Goravani

>

>

>

>

>

> > "tulasidevi2000" <tulasidevi2000>

> > gjlist

> > Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:44:09 -0000

> > gjlist

> > [GJ] Conjunctions of shadowy planets

> >

> > So we have Ketu in a chart in the 6th house of an aqu rising

person.

> > Its not alone there. Ketu is joined by Buddha and Ravi. Back and

> > forth I go, how to understand this? Ketu is natural enemy of ravi,

> > even cancer sign (via Moon). Yet Ketu acts like lordship (moon),

so

> > maybe he doesn't always go against the good things moon provides?

> >

> > Then, Ketu as Moon, would Ketu not be friendly toward sun?

> >

> > Would Ketu as Moon be considered somewhat to be in his own sign?

> >

> > There must be a (good) book or web site how to figure out the

details

> > of shadowy planets and conjucntions of more then one planet.

> >

> > Buddha is benefic by nature, yet being young, is easily

influenced by

> > those around him. He will submit to both ravi and ketu, but which

> > more?

> >

> > Ketu acts as Mars too. Any planet cojoined with Mars is not good,

but

> > Mars for this chart is Rajayoga for aqu rising. How does that

effect

> > this ketu and what he does?

> >

> > Does anyone know these things?

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Dear Tulasi

 

 

 

> Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka for

> said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out this

> much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program

> says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth

> house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished

> yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka?

 

A yogakaraka is a planet that rules a quadrant and trine

>

> Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana

> Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that

> the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel Viparita

> yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil its

> good effects?

 

A Raja Yoga is literally a yoga that will lift you to kingly heights . Now

if the malefics are placed in malefic houses that means the benefic houses

are unimpeded.

So it is good for the overall strength of the chart . But if the malefics

are with a benfic in a malefic house that benefic really gets hammered both

by being in a dusthana and by conjunction with a malefic . So it is not a

factor for raising a person high .

 

>

> Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I don't

> so often see that.

 

The nodes sometimes move forward slowly for a short period of time . It

usually doesn't make much difference .

 

Nicholas

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What you say makes sense via yogakarakas and mercury. Simply I wasn't

going to argue with the maker of the computer program. :) I don't

know why he programed it that way. I have also seen him program some

other things in there which I questioned. Since I am not as senior in

astrology as he is, I figured he knew what he was doing. Maybe he

knows something most dont, because he seems quite expert. However, if

he doesnt expalain why, like why he is stating merc in this placment

is a yogakaraka, I tend to agree with you.

 

Her RajaYoga is not in the dushtana house and not connected to her

Merc. It is Mars in the 9th in Libra, and lord of 10 in 9. Just a

month or two after entering her RajaYoga Mars Bhukti, she immediately

got a part time job, a gift of money, and some obstacles to spiriutal

life began to lift. More is needed, but it appears this Mars is

RajaYoga is functional.

 

Tulasi

 

gjlist, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:

> Dear Tulasi

>

>

>

> > Nicholas, It makes sense what you say that Merc is not yogakarka

for

> > said reasons. I admit to using a computer program to figure out

this

> > much (but not to translate the chart at all). The program

> > says "Mercury is a Yogakaraka because it is the ruler of the fifth

> > house." Am wondering if this means it is not an unblemished

> > yogakaraka, but still a yogakaraka?

>

> A yogakaraka is a planet that rules a quadrant and trine

> >

> > Did not understand that Viparita Yoga must ONLY include dusthana

> > Lords. My understanding, and correct me if I am mistaken, was that

> > the other planets or lords within the house would not cancel

Viparita

> > yoga, although may diminish its effect, but not completely spoil

its

> > good effects?

>

> A Raja Yoga is literally a yoga that will lift you to kingly

heights . Now

> if the malefics are placed in malefic houses that means the benefic

houses

> are unimpeded.

> So it is good for the overall strength of the chart . But if the

malefics

> are with a benfic in a malefic house that benefic really gets

hammered both

> by being in a dusthana and by conjunction with a malefic . So it is

not a

> factor for raising a person high .

>

> >

> > Interestingly this Ketu here in 6th house is not retrograde. I

don't

> > so often see that.

>

> The nodes sometimes move forward slowly for a short period of

time . It

> usually doesn't make much difference .

>

> Nicholas

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