VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

January 31, 2004

Dear Francoise,

This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long one,

through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh response,

he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was referring

to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor is

responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

I feel tempted to type VeR/Su through each and every house, but I know that

won't answer your dilemma. Based on my observation only, I would see this

Venus transit PRIMARILY as an expression of its NATURAL BENEFIC

signification, regardless if it's FUNCTIONAL benefic or not in the chart-

why would that be? My assumption is based on the fact that in this

particular case Venus is CLOSEST to the US/not U SofA/, earth, than in other

situations, and empowered by solar qualities can 'shower' its benevolence on

us. As it does, as per what I've seen.

My son's Venus owns 12th and 7th H- yet, VeR/Su proved to be very benevolent

to him.

/I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second and

9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be blamed,

anyway/

I've seen Venus /this one/ transit 6thH, organization on the job was easy,

coflicts handled more creatively, sometimes significant and harmonious

things happening in one's everyday environment- sometimes just an

inspiration of creative activity of some sort...Naturally much depends on

the entire chart- is saturn happens to be ill-disposed to this

configuration, I guess that impulse may still be there /positive, pleasant/

but more difficult to express.

I had this tr over my NT Ju which conj. my MC- JU is not my money planet at

all- one would expect job promotion, I did- instead, I resolved some

property issues nicely- yes, money was important, but perhaps my 'perceived'

status- and yes, it was very pleasant.

I hope I answered your questions /we had and will have more of these

transits, in different signs, but anyway!/ I wish I had one in every house,

all at once!

Best wishes,

Anna

-

"Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:07 PM

Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> Hi Anna,

>

> Thanks for the information about this upcoming important Venus transit!

> (Food for thought over the next few months)...you say that it is

"generally

> pleasant"...which made me think of the effect of benefic planets, like

> Venus, transiting difficult houses like 6th, 8th, 12th house..for many

> people Venus may be spending lots of time in these houses.....I'd be

> interested in hearing your opnion and/or experience about a benefic like

> Venus in these houses...

>

> Would anyone else have knowledge/experience on benefics (especially Venus)

> transiting these houses? Cynthia? Sateesh? Roik?

>

> Sincerely,

> Francoise

>

> On 1/31/04 13:50, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>

> > Dear Jana,

> >

> > As you know VeR/Su will happen in your 11th H. and Venus will spend

quite a

> > lot of time there.One 'safe' thing I can say is that It is generally

pleasant

> > occurrence,

> > however

> > I /nobody/ can give quite accurate prediction about 'idiosyncratic',

highly

> > personalized situation, as the chart as a whole, is- I guess you would

agree.

> > Only an astrologer dealing with your horoscope in toto would be able to

give a

> > specific comment.

> >

> > We are on the general ground here- hope this helps too.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Anna

> >

> > -

> > "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn

> > <gjlist>

> > Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:20 AM

> > Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> >

> >> Dear Anna:

> >>

> >> Based on your Venus observations, would you comment on the transits

below

> >> (auspicious or inauspicious and in what way for Cancer lagna, 25º

Cancer, i=

> >> n

> >> House 11 (also with NT Rahu 27º Taurus) ? NT Venus is 16º Leo (don't

know=

> >>

> >> if this is a factor). I know that you are Cancer lagna also and

thought yo=

> >> ur

> >> insights might be relevant for me also.

> >>

> >> Would you or anyone also comment on the TR Sun-Saturn conjunction 22º

> >> Gemini July 7-8 for Cancer lagna?

> >>

> >> Thank you.

> >>

> >> Janna

> >>

> >> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

> >> Venus Rx May 17, 2004 3:28 PM - June 29, 2004 - 4:15 PM EST

> >>

> >> May 17 Venus Rx 2º Gemini Sun 3º Taurus HOUSE 11

> >> May 28 Venus Rx 29º Taurus Sun 13º Taurus

> >> June 01 Venus Rx 27º Taurus Sun 17º Taurus

> >> June 8 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 24º Taurus conjunct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

> >> June 9 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 25º Taurus

> >> July 27 Venus D 27º Taurus conjuct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

> >>

> >> June 14 Sun in Gemini HOUSE 12

> >> July 7-8`Sun 22ºGemini TR Saturn 22º Gemini

> >>

> >> gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

> >>> Dear Cynthia,

> >>> I've happened to explore this. As I said, it's nothing spectacular

/unle=

> >> ss very

> >> supported by other factors/ but is a breeze among all those heavy

transits!=

> >>

> >>> Only 'inferior conjunction' counts, because Venus is closest to the

earth=

> >> at

> >> that time, time of retrogression, and its /Venus/ effects easily

manifested=

> >> . /The

> >> same is with Mars retrogression/ Whether this conj. was preceded by

> >> 'superior' or nor, Venus will touch the point of conjunction with the

Sun, =

> >> go

> >> backwards, and than, in direct motion, cross the same point again- the

enti=

> >> re

> >> period is 'full of Venus"!!!

> >>> To give you an example: for my Son, for example, this happens in his

7th =

> >>

> >> House and I am sure NEW LOVE will find HIM at that time! /In fact if

you

> >> remember, couple of years ago similar things happened- Venus was

hanging

> >> around Ta Dsc of my son, AFTER conj. with Sun. - my son's seventh cusp,

and=

> >>

> >> he laughed when I told him the girl will literally 'jump' on him- thank

ast=

> >> rology,

> >> my son doesn't think I am that stupid any longer.

> >>> I noticed that the cusps 1,7,10,4, are the most 'reactive' sensitive,

the=

> >> n

> >> conjunction with NT planets comes.

> >>> Feel free to ask any more questions, Cynthia,

> >>> and enjoy the transit!

> >>> Regards,

> >>> Anna

> >>>

> >>> -

> >>> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

> >>> <gjlist>

> >>> Friday, January 30, 2004 4:01 PM

> >>> RE: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>

> >>>> Dear Anna

> >>>> I hear in your kessage that this is very important and relevant.

> >>>> Would you mind giving an exaple of how this might manifest for an

> >>>> individual?

> >>>> c

> >>>>

> >>>> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

> >>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 10:48 AM

> >>>> gjlist

> >>>> [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>>

> >>>> An exceptional event will take place on Jun 8th 2004- Venus retro

will =

> >>

> >> make

> >>>> a conjunction with Sun in Taurus- it is important:due to retrograde

mot=

> >> ion

> >>>> will stay within orb within Sun much longer, thus, more important..

Thi=

> >> s is

> >>>> called 'inferior conjunction' of Venus- as opposed to quick fleeting,

> >>>> 'superior conjunction of direct Venus.

> >>>> The PERIOD SHOULD BE counted from the time Venus /direct/ makes

> >> fleeting

> >>>> conj. with the Sun, than conjunct it in retro-motion, go backward,

and =

> >> that

> >>>> direst to reach the point of 'inferior' /powerful/ conjunction again-

> >>>> Three points, thus, are the most important: /and the period in

between/=

> >>

> >>>> 1/ when Venus reaches the point of conjunction

> >>>> 2/than she goes back in retromotion

> >>>> 3/ than goes direct, and reach the conjunction point again

> >>>> The entire period is relevant,

> >>>> particularly if the event touches natal planet /any/ during this

period=

> >> .

> >>>> Also, see the house where it's happening /less important than conj.

wit=

> >> h

> >>>> planet/

> >>>>

> >>>> Will any of your planets be touched by this event- that's major.

Most

> >>>> important thing happens when this occures on MC, IC, Asc, Desc.

> >>>> Enjoy good news!

> >>>> Cheers,

> >>>> Anna

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>

> >>>> Links

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist/

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist

> >>>>

> >>>> Your

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>

> >>>> Links

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist/

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist

> >>>>

> >>>> Your

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >> : gjlist-

> >>

> >> Links

> >>

> >> gjlist/

> >>

> >> gjlist

> >>

> >> Your

> >>

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> > Links

> >

> > gjlist/

> >

> > gjlist

> >

> > Your

> >

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Links

>

> gjlist/

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

January 31, 2004

Dear Anna,

In fact, I was referring to the 12th Lord FM Sun hurting Rx FB Venus. There

were other factors involved that day, but the very close Natal affliction of

Sun on Venus was repeated by TR Sun colliding with Rx Venus.

Sateesh.

========

-

"N.Anna" <anmar

Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:41 AM

Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

: This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long one,

: through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh

response,

: he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was referring

: to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

: results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor is

: responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

: /I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second and

: 9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be

blamed,

: anyway/

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January 31, 2004

Thanks Anna! and Sateesh also!

Being a Libra asc...with Venus retrograde in 6th, I've experienced being

able to "overcome" difficulties involving enemies,....

I can add my own experience of Rahu/Venus period. I've just come out this

dasha/bukti also (December) which has had some bright spots but many

challenges and big life changes (job loss due to office politics and board

room battles and relationship break up)...surprising thing is that I

attained a prestigious position, very quickly, a little before and at the

beginning of Rahu/Venus and lost it about half way through. The relationship

began and ended during this period as well. Anyhow, there are also some

Saturn factors there (Sade Sati). But all this to say that Venus seems to be

a mixed blessing for me. Thankfully, I've never walked away bitter or hating

my enemies.

Venus being lord of my 10th (career) will be dropping by for an extended

stay in my 8th house in a few months. I would expect a mixed result,...but I

have my Moon there, which may help to mitigate the negativity of the 8th

house...also, being at a crossroad career-wise, this transit may be more

front and centre in my life as it touches my 10th.

I'm definitely going to look out for Venus' ride through Taurus... ;-)

Sincerely,

Francoise

On 1/31/04 19:41, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

> Dear Francoise,

>

> This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long one,

> through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh response,

> he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was referring

> to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

> results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor is

> responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

>

> I feel tempted to type VeR/Su through each and every house, but I know that

> won't answer your dilemma. Based on my observation only, I would see this

> Venus transit PRIMARILY as an expression of its NATURAL BENEFIC

> signification, regardless if it's FUNCTIONAL benefic or not in the chart-

> why would that be? My assumption is based on the fact that in this

> particular case Venus is CLOSEST to the US/not U SofA/, earth, than in other

> situations, and empowered by solar qualities can 'shower' its benevolence on

> us. As it does, as per what I've seen.

> My son's Venus owns 12th and 7th H- yet, VeR/Su proved to be very benevolent

> to him.

> /I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second and

> 9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be blamed,

> anyway/

>

> I've seen Venus /this one/ transit 6thH, organization on the job was easy,

> coflicts handled more creatively, sometimes significant and harmonious

> things happening in one's everyday environment- sometimes just an

> inspiration of creative activity of some sort...Naturally much depends on

> the entire chart- is saturn happens to be ill-disposed to this

> configuration, I guess that impulse may still be there /positive, pleasant/

> but more difficult to express.

>

> I had this tr over my NT Ju which conj. my MC- JU is not my money planet at

> all- one would expect job promotion, I did- instead, I resolved some

> property issues nicely- yes, money was important, but perhaps my 'perceived'

> status- and yes, it was very pleasant.

>

> I hope I answered your questions /we had and will have more of these

> transits, in different signs, but anyway!/ I wish I had one in every house,

> all at once!

>

> Best wishes,

> Anna

>

> -

> "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

> <gjlist>

> Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:07 PM

> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

>

>> Hi Anna,

>>

>> Thanks for the information about this upcoming important Venus transit!

>> (Food for thought over the next few months)...you say that it is

> "generally

>> pleasant"...which made me think of the effect of benefic planets, like

>> Venus, transiting difficult houses like 6th, 8th, 12th house..for many

>> people Venus may be spending lots of time in these houses.....I'd be

>> interested in hearing your opnion and/or experience about a benefic like

>> Venus in these houses...

>>

>> Would anyone else have knowledge/experience on benefics (especially Venus)

>> transiting these houses? Cynthia? Sateesh? Roik?

>>

>> Sincerely,

>> Francoise

>>

>> On 1/31/04 13:50, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>>

>>> Dear Jana,

>>>

>>> As you know VeR/Su will happen in your 11th H. and Venus will spend

> quite a

>>> lot of time there.One 'safe' thing I can say is that It is generally

> pleasant

>>> occurrence,

>>> however

>>> I /nobody/ can give quite accurate prediction about 'idiosyncratic',

> highly

>>> personalized situation, as the chart as a whole, is- I guess you would

> agree.

>>> Only an astrologer dealing with your horoscope in toto would be able to

> give a

>>> specific comment.

>>>

>>> We are on the general ground here- hope this helps too.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>> Anna

>>>

>>> -

>>> "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn

>>> <gjlist>

>>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:20 AM

>>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

>>>

>>>> Dear Anna:

>>>>

>>>> Based on your Venus observations, would you comment on the transits

> below

>>>> (auspicious or inauspicious and in what way for Cancer lagna, 25º

> Cancer, i=

>>>> n

>>>> House 11 (also with NT Rahu 27º Taurus) ? NT Venus is 16º Leo (don't

> know=

>>>>

>>>> if this is a factor). I know that you are Cancer lagna also and

> thought yo=

>>>> ur

>>>> insights might be relevant for me also.

>>>>

>>>> Would you or anyone also comment on the TR Sun-Saturn conjunction 22º

>>>> Gemini July 7-8 for Cancer lagna?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you.

>>>>

>>>> Janna

>>>>

>>>> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>>>> Venus Rx May 17, 2004 3:28 PM - June 29, 2004 - 4:15 PM EST

>>>>

>>>> May 17 Venus Rx 2º Gemini Sun 3º Taurus HOUSE 11

>>>> May 28 Venus Rx 29º Taurus Sun 13º Taurus

>>>> June 01 Venus Rx 27º Taurus Sun 17º Taurus

>>>> June 8 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 24º Taurus conjunct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

>>>> June 9 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 25º Taurus

>>>> July 27 Venus D 27º Taurus conjuct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

>>>>

>>>> June 14 Sun in Gemini HOUSE 12

>>>> July 7-8`Sun 22ºGemini TR Saturn 22º Gemini

>>>>

>>>> gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

>>>>> Dear Cynthia,

>>>>> I've happened to explore this. As I said, it's nothing spectacular

> /unle=

>>>> ss very

>>>> supported by other factors/ but is a breeze among all those heavy

> transits!=

>>>>

>>>>> Only 'inferior conjunction' counts, because Venus is closest to the

> earth=

>>>> at

>>>> that time, time of retrogression, and its /Venus/ effects easily

> manifested=

>>>> . /The

>>>> same is with Mars retrogression/ Whether this conj. was preceded by

>>>> 'superior' or nor, Venus will touch the point of conjunction with the

> Sun, =

>>>> go

>>>> backwards, and than, in direct motion, cross the same point again- the

> enti=

>>>> re

>>>> period is 'full of Venus"!!!

>>>>> To give you an example: for my Son, for example, this happens in his

> 7th =

>>>>

>>>> House and I am sure NEW LOVE will find HIM at that time! /In fact if

> you

>>>> remember, couple of years ago similar things happened- Venus was

> hanging

>>>> around Ta Dsc of my son, AFTER conj. with Sun. - my son's seventh cusp,

> and=

>>>>

>>>> he laughed when I told him the girl will literally 'jump' on him- thank

> ast=

>>>> rology,

>>>> my son doesn't think I am that stupid any longer.

>>>>> I noticed that the cusps 1,7,10,4, are the most 'reactive' sensitive,

> the=

>>>> n

>>>> conjunction with NT planets comes.

>>>>> Feel free to ask any more questions, Cynthia,

>>>>> and enjoy the transit!

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Anna

>>>>>

>>>>> -

>>>>> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

>>>>> <gjlist>

>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 4:01 PM

>>>>> RE: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Anna

>>>>>> I hear in your kessage that this is very important and relevant.

>>>>>> Would you mind giving an exaple of how this might manifest for an

>>>>>> individual?

>>>>>> c

>>>>>>

>>>>>> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

>>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 10:48 AM

>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>> [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

>>>>>>

>>>>>> An exceptional event will take place on Jun 8th 2004- Venus retro

> will =

>>>>

>>>> make

>>>>>> a conjunction with Sun in Taurus- it is important:due to retrograde

> mot=

>>>> ion

>>>>>> will stay within orb within Sun much longer, thus, more important..

> Thi=

>>>> s is

>>>>>> called 'inferior conjunction' of Venus- as opposed to quick fleeting,

>>>>>> 'superior conjunction of direct Venus.

>>>>>> The PERIOD SHOULD BE counted from the time Venus /direct/ makes

>>>> fleeting

>>>>>> conj. with the Sun, than conjunct it in retro-motion, go backward,

> and =

>>>> that

>>>>>> direst to reach the point of 'inferior' /powerful/ conjunction again-

>>>>>> Three points, thus, are the most important: /and the period in

> between/=

>>>>

>>>>>> 1/ when Venus reaches the point of conjunction

>>>>>> 2/than she goes back in retromotion

>>>>>> 3/ than goes direct, and reach the conjunction point again

>>>>>> The entire period is relevant,

>>>>>> particularly if the event touches natal planet /any/ during this

> period=

>>>> .

>>>>>> Also, see the house where it's happening /less important than conj.

> wit=

>>>> h

>>>>>> planet/

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Will any of your planets be touched by this event- that's major.

> Most

>>>>>> important thing happens when this occures on MC, IC, Asc, Desc.

>>>>>> Enjoy good news!

>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Links

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Links

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>

>>>> Links

>>>>

>>>> gjlist/

>>>>

>>>> gjlist

>>>>

>>>> Your

>>>>

>>>

>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>> : gjlist-

>>>

>>> Links

>>>

>>> gjlist/

>>>

>>> gjlist

>>>

>>> Your

>>>

>>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>> : gjlist-

>>

>> Links

>>

>> gjlist/

>>

>> gjlist

>>

>> Your

>>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Links

>

> gjlist/

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

January 31, 2004

Dear Francoise,

I have a feeling that some other rules play here- while Rahu/Venus story is also

understandable, these rules apply as well. /I would suggest that you look at

your Aroodha Lagna, as well, and A6 in Rashi/-and maybe strengthen Venus for a

certain period of time?

It's been recently discussed on another list how economic situation, where one

lives/works, affects that major area of employment

I feel compelled to re-write what ' the book' says about VE Rx /SU in 8th:

...to reorganize one's affairs more efficiently, or to make the value of one

offers more CONVINCING to others!sic ../me/ For some people, time of

self-renewal, personal reorientation towards more meaningful social or religious

ideals...

Your NT Venus is in 6th, yes, But exalted, see Navamsa and other vargas for

determining its strength- Lord of 6th /Ju/ accounts more for enemies, but as

H.DeFoew says, Ju is a big negotiator and knows how to deal with 'enemies- so,

I would expect that you do that quite well, if having enemies at all /don't know

where Ju is, though/

I also have Ve in sixth in Ju sign, and often feel like don't have /real/

enemies..If that's humanely possible!

Hope this helps.

Yours,

Anna

-

"Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:43 PM

Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

> Thanks Anna! and Sateesh also!

>

> Being a Libra asc...with Venus retrograde in 6th, I've experienced being

> able to "overcome" difficulties involving enemies,....

>

> I can add my own experience of Rahu/Venus period. I've just come out this

> dasha/bukti also (December) which has had some bright spots but many

> challenges and big life changes (job loss due to office politics and board

> room battles and relationship break up)...surprising thing is that I

> attained a prestigious position, very quickly, a little before and at the

> beginning of Rahu/Venus and lost it about half way through. The relationship

> began and ended during this period as well. Anyhow, there are also some

> Saturn factors there (Sade Sati). But all this to say that Venus seems to be

> a mixed blessing for me. Thankfully, I've never walked away bitter or hating

> my enemies.

>

> Venus being lord of my 10th (career) will be dropping by for an extended

> stay in my 8th house in a few months. I would expect a mixed result,...but I

> have my Moon there, which may help to mitigate the negativity of the 8th

> house...also, being at a crossroad career-wise, this transit may be more

> front and centre in my life as it touches my 10th.

>

> I'm definitely going to look out for Venus' ride through Taurus... ;-)

>

> Sincerely,

> Francoise

>

> On 1/31/04 19:41, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>

> > Dear Francoise,

> >

> > This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long one,

> > through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh response,

> > he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was referring

> > to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

> > results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor is

> > responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

> >

> > I feel tempted to type VeR/Su through each and every house, but I know that

> > won't answer your dilemma. Based on my observation only, I would see this

> > Venus transit PRIMARILY as an expression of its NATURAL BENEFIC

> > signification, regardless if it's FUNCTIONAL benefic or not in the chart-

> > why would that be? My assumption is based on the fact that in this

> > particular case Venus is CLOSEST to the US/not U SofA/, earth, than in other

> > situations, and empowered by solar qualities can 'shower' its benevolence on

> > us. As it does, as per what I've seen.

> > My son's Venus owns 12th and 7th H- yet, VeR/Su proved to be very benevolent

> > to him.

> > /I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second and

> > 9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be blamed,

> > anyway/

> >

> > I've seen Venus /this one/ transit 6thH, organization on the job was easy,

> > coflicts handled more creatively, sometimes significant and harmonious

> > things happening in one's everyday environment- sometimes just an

> > inspiration of creative activity of some sort...Naturally much depends on

> > the entire chart- is saturn happens to be ill-disposed to this

> > configuration, I guess that impulse may still be there /positive, pleasant/

> > but more difficult to express.

> >

> > I had this tr over my NT Ju which conj. my MC- JU is not my money planet at

> > all- one would expect job promotion, I did- instead, I resolved some

> > property issues nicely- yes, money was important, but perhaps my 'perceived'

> > status- and yes, it was very pleasant.

> >

> > I hope I answered your questions /we had and will have more of these

> > transits, in different signs, but anyway!/ I wish I had one in every house,

> > all at once!

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > Anna

> >

> > -

> > "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

> > <gjlist>

> > Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:07 PM

> > Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> >

> >> Hi Anna,

> >>

> >> Thanks for the information about this upcoming important Venus transit!

> >> (Food for thought over the next few months)...you say that it is

> > "generally

> >> pleasant"...which made me think of the effect of benefic planets, like

> >> Venus, transiting difficult houses like 6th, 8th, 12th house..for many

> >> people Venus may be spending lots of time in these houses.....I'd be

> >> interested in hearing your opnion and/or experience about a benefic like

> >> Venus in these houses...

> >>

> >> Would anyone else have knowledge/experience on benefics (especially Venus)

> >> transiting these houses? Cynthia? Sateesh? Roik?

> >>

> >> Sincerely,

> >> Francoise

> >>

> >> On 1/31/04 13:50, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Jana,

> >>>

> >>> As you know VeR/Su will happen in your 11th H. and Venus will spend

> > quite a

> >>> lot of time there.One 'safe' thing I can say is that It is generally

> > pleasant

> >>> occurrence,

> >>> however

> >>> I /nobody/ can give quite accurate prediction about 'idiosyncratic',

> > highly

> >>> personalized situation, as the chart as a whole, is- I guess you would

> > agree.

> >>> Only an astrologer dealing with your horoscope in toto would be able to

> > give a

> >>> specific comment.

> >>>

> >>> We are on the general ground here- hope this helps too.

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>>

> >>> Anna

> >>>

> >>> -

> >>> "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn

> >>> <gjlist>

> >>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:20 AM

> >>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> >>>

> >>>> Dear Anna:

> >>>>

> >>>> Based on your Venus observations, would you comment on the transits

> > below

> >>>> (auspicious or inauspicious and in what way for Cancer lagna, 25º

> > Cancer, i=

> >>>> n

> >>>> House 11 (also with NT Rahu 27º Taurus) ? NT Venus is 16º Leo (don't

> > know=

> >>>>

> >>>> if this is a factor). I know that you are Cancer lagna also and

> > thought yo=

> >>>> ur

> >>>> insights might be relevant for me also.

> >>>>

> >>>> Would you or anyone also comment on the TR Sun-Saturn conjunction 22º

> >>>> Gemini July 7-8 for Cancer lagna?

> >>>>

> >>>> Thank you.

> >>>>

> >>>> Janna

> >>>>

> >>>> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

> >>>> Venus Rx May 17, 2004 3:28 PM - June 29, 2004 - 4:15 PM EST

> >>>>

> >>>> May 17 Venus Rx 2º Gemini Sun 3º Taurus HOUSE 11

> >>>> May 28 Venus Rx 29º Taurus Sun 13º Taurus

> >>>> June 01 Venus Rx 27º Taurus Sun 17º Taurus

> >>>> June 8 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 24º Taurus conjunct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

> >>>> June 9 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 25º Taurus

> >>>> July 27 Venus D 27º Taurus conjuct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

> >>>>

> >>>> June 14 Sun in Gemini HOUSE 12

> >>>> July 7-8`Sun 22ºGemini TR Saturn 22º Gemini

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

> >>>>> Dear Cynthia,

> >>>>> I've happened to explore this. As I said, it's nothing spectacular

> > /unle=

> >>>> ss very

> >>>> supported by other factors/ but is a breeze among all those heavy

> > transits!=

> >>>>

> >>>>> Only 'inferior conjunction' counts, because Venus is closest to the

> > earth=

> >>>> at

> >>>> that time, time of retrogression, and its /Venus/ effects easily

> > manifested=

> >>>> . /The

> >>>> same is with Mars retrogression/ Whether this conj. was preceded by

> >>>> 'superior' or nor, Venus will touch the point of conjunction with the

> > Sun, =

> >>>> go

> >>>> backwards, and than, in direct motion, cross the same point again- the

> > enti=

> >>>> re

> >>>> period is 'full of Venus"!!!

> >>>>> To give you an example: for my Son, for example, this happens in his

> > 7th =

> >>>>

> >>>> House and I am sure NEW LOVE will find HIM at that time! /In fact if

> > you

> >>>> remember, couple of years ago similar things happened- Venus was

> > hanging

> >>>> around Ta Dsc of my son, AFTER conj. with Sun. - my son's seventh cusp,

> > and=

> >>>>

> >>>> he laughed when I told him the girl will literally 'jump' on him- thank

> > ast=

> >>>> rology,

> >>>> my son doesn't think I am that stupid any longer.

> >>>>> I noticed that the cusps 1,7,10,4, are the most 'reactive' sensitive,

> > the=

> >>>> n

> >>>> conjunction with NT planets comes.

> >>>>> Feel free to ask any more questions, Cynthia,

> >>>>> and enjoy the transit!

> >>>>> Regards,

> >>>>> Anna

> >>>>>

> >>>>> -

> >>>>> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

> >>>>> <gjlist>

> >>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 4:01 PM

> >>>>> RE: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Anna

> >>>>>> I hear in your kessage that this is very important and relevant.

> >>>>>> Would you mind giving an exaple of how this might manifest for an

> >>>>>> individual?

> >>>>>> c

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

> >>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 10:48 AM

> >>>>>> gjlist

> >>>>>> [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> An exceptional event will take place on Jun 8th 2004- Venus retro

> > will =

> >>>>

> >>>> make

> >>>>>> a conjunction with Sun in Taurus- it is important:due to retrograde

> > mot=

> >>>> ion

> >>>>>> will stay within orb within Sun much longer, thus, more important..

> > Thi=

> >>>> s is

> >>>>>> called 'inferior conjunction' of Venus- as opposed to quick fleeting,

> >>>>>> 'superior conjunction of direct Venus.

> >>>>>> The PERIOD SHOULD BE counted from the time Venus /direct/ makes

> >>>> fleeting

> >>>>>> conj. with the Sun, than conjunct it in retro-motion, go backward,

> > and =

> >>>> that

> >>>>>> direst to reach the point of 'inferior' /powerful/ conjunction again-

> >>>>>> Three points, thus, are the most important: /and the period in

> > between/=

> >>>>

> >>>>>> 1/ when Venus reaches the point of conjunction

> >>>>>> 2/than she goes back in retromotion

> >>>>>> 3/ than goes direct, and reach the conjunction point again

> >>>>>> The entire period is relevant,

> >>>>>> particularly if the event touches natal planet /any/ during this

> > period=

> >>>> .

> >>>>>> Also, see the house where it's happening /less important than conj.

> > wit=

> >>>> h

> >>>>>> planet/

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Will any of your planets be touched by this event- that's major.

> > Most

> >>>>>> important thing happens when this occures on MC, IC, Asc, Desc.

> >>>>>> Enjoy good news!

> >>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>> Anna

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Links

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> gjlist/

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> gjlist

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Your

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Links

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> gjlist/

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> gjlist

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Your

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>

> >>>> Links

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist/

> >>>>

> >>>> gjlist

> >>>>

> >>>> Your

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>> : gjlist-

> >>>

> >>> Links

> >>>

> >>> gjlist/

> >>>

> >>> gjlist

> >>>

> >>> Your

> >>>

> >>

> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >> : gjlist-

> >>

> >> Links

> >>

> >> gjlist/

> >>

> >> gjlist

> >>

> >> Your

> >>

> >

> > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> > : gjlist-

> >

> > Links

> >

> > gjlist/

> >

> > gjlist

> >

> > Your

> >

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Links

>

> gjlist/

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

February 1, 2004

Thanks Anna! It does help...

I do agree about there being many factors/elements. So much to learn, so

little time!

The feeling of not having any "real" enemies is one I can relate to...key

word here is "real" for me though...they are there, it's all in how I

perceive them and their effect on me.

Jupiter is in 12th, opposite my Venus...so these two planets do have that

connection also.

My original thoughts were mostly about benefic planets transiting malefic

houses, especially when they retrograde. I've read and heard a lot of "doom

and gloom" about such placements and it's refreshing to hear your more

balanced opinion and information. :0)

Sincerely,

Francoise

On 2/1/04 0:12, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

> Dear Francoise,

> I have a feeling that some other rules play here- while Rahu/Venus story is

> also understandable, these rules apply as well. /I would suggest that you look

> at your Aroodha Lagna, as well, and A6 in Rashi/-and maybe strengthen Venus

> for a certain period of time?

> It's been recently discussed on another list how economic situation, where one

> lives/works, affects that major area of employment

>

> I feel compelled to re-write what ' the book' says about VE Rx /SU in 8th:

>

> ..to reorganize one's affairs more efficiently, or to make the value of one

> offers more CONVINCING to others!sic ../me/ For some people, time of

> self-renewal, personal reorientation towards more meaningful social or

> religious ideals...

>

> Your NT Venus is in 6th, yes, But exalted, see Navamsa and other vargas for

> determining its strength- Lord of 6th /Ju/ accounts more for enemies, but as

> H.DeFoew says, Ju is a big negotiator and knows how to deal with 'enemies-

> so, I would expect that you do that quite well, if having enemies at all

> /don't know where Ju is, though/

> I also have Ve in sixth in Ju sign, and often feel like don't have /real/

> enemies..If that's humanely possible!

>

> Hope this helps.

> Yours,

> Anna

>

> -

> "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

> <gjlist>

> Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:43 PM

> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

>

>> Thanks Anna! and Sateesh also!

>>

>> Being a Libra asc...with Venus retrograde in 6th, I've experienced being

>> able to "overcome" difficulties involving enemies,....

>>

>> I can add my own experience of Rahu/Venus period. I've just come out this

>> dasha/bukti also (December) which has had some bright spots but many

>> challenges and big life changes (job loss due to office politics and board

>> room battles and relationship break up)...surprising thing is that I

>> attained a prestigious position, very quickly, a little before and at the

>> beginning of Rahu/Venus and lost it about half way through. The relationship

>> began and ended during this period as well. Anyhow, there are also some

>> Saturn factors there (Sade Sati). But all this to say that Venus seems to be

>> a mixed blessing for me. Thankfully, I've never walked away bitter or hating

>> my enemies.

>>

>> Venus being lord of my 10th (career) will be dropping by for an extended

>> stay in my 8th house in a few months. I would expect a mixed result,...but I

>> have my Moon there, which may help to mitigate the negativity of the 8th

>> house...also, being at a crossroad career-wise, this transit may be more

>> front and centre in my life as it touches my 10th.

>>

>> I'm definitely going to look out for Venus' ride through Taurus... ;-)

>>

>> Sincerely,

>> Francoise

>>

>> On 1/31/04 19:41, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>>

>>> Dear Francoise,

>>>

>>> This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long one,

>>> through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh response,

>>> he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was referring

>>> to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

>>> results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor is

>>> responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

>>>

>>> I feel tempted to type VeR/Su through each and every house, but I know that

>>> won't answer your dilemma. Based on my observation only, I would see this

>>> Venus transit PRIMARILY as an expression of its NATURAL BENEFIC

>>> signification, regardless if it's FUNCTIONAL benefic or not in the chart-

>>> why would that be? My assumption is based on the fact that in this

>>> particular case Venus is CLOSEST to the US/not U SofA/, earth, than in other

>>> situations, and empowered by solar qualities can 'shower' its benevolence on

>>> us. As it does, as per what I've seen.

>>> My son's Venus owns 12th and 7th H- yet, VeR/Su proved to be very benevolent

>>> to him.

>>> /I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second and

>>> 9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be blamed,

>>> anyway/

>>>

>>> I've seen Venus /this one/ transit 6thH, organization on the job was easy,

>>> coflicts handled more creatively, sometimes significant and harmonious

>>> things happening in one's everyday environment- sometimes just an

>>> inspiration of creative activity of some sort...Naturally much depends on

>>> the entire chart- is saturn happens to be ill-disposed to this

>>> configuration, I guess that impulse may still be there /positive, pleasant/

>>> but more difficult to express.

>>>

>>> I had this tr over my NT Ju which conj. my MC- JU is not my money planet at

>>> all- one would expect job promotion, I did- instead, I resolved some

>>> property issues nicely- yes, money was important, but perhaps my 'perceived'

>>> status- and yes, it was very pleasant.

>>>

>>> I hope I answered your questions /we had and will have more of these

>>> transits, in different signs, but anyway!/ I wish I had one in every house,

>>> all at once!

>>>

>>> Best wishes,

>>> Anna

>>>

>>> -

>>> "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

>>> <gjlist>

>>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:07 PM

>>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

>>>

>>>> Hi Anna,

>>>>

>>>> Thanks for the information about this upcoming important Venus transit!

>>>> (Food for thought over the next few months)...you say that it is

>>> "generally

>>>> pleasant"...which made me think of the effect of benefic planets, like

>>>> Venus, transiting difficult houses like 6th, 8th, 12th house..for many

>>>> people Venus may be spending lots of time in these houses.....I'd be

>>>> interested in hearing your opnion and/or experience about a benefic like

>>>> Venus in these houses...

>>>>

>>>> Would anyone else have knowledge/experience on benefics (especially Venus)

>>>> transiting these houses? Cynthia? Sateesh? Roik?

>>>>

>>>> Sincerely,

>>>> Francoise

>>>>

>>>> On 1/31/04 13:50, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Dear Jana,

>>>>>

>>>>> As you know VeR/Su will happen in your 11th H. and Venus will spend

>>> quite a

>>>>> lot of time there.One 'safe' thing I can say is that It is generally

>>> pleasant

>>>>> occurrence,

>>>>> however

>>>>> I /nobody/ can give quite accurate prediction about 'idiosyncratic',

>>> highly

>>>>> personalized situation, as the chart as a whole, is- I guess you would

>>> agree.

>>>>> Only an astrologer dealing with your horoscope in toto would be able to

>>> give a

>>>>> specific comment.

>>>>>

>>>>> We are on the general ground here- hope this helps too.

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>

>>>>> Anna

>>>>>

>>>>> -

>>>>> "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn

>>>>> <gjlist>

>>>>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:20 AM

>>>>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Anna:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Based on your Venus observations, would you comment on the transits

>>> below

>>>>>> (auspicious or inauspicious and in what way for Cancer lagna, 25º

>>> Cancer, i=

>>>>>> n

>>>>>> House 11 (also with NT Rahu 27º Taurus) ? NT Venus is 16º Leo (don't

>>> know=

>>>>>>

>>>>>> if this is a factor). I know that you are Cancer lagna also and

>>> thought yo=

>>>>>> ur

>>>>>> insights might be relevant for me also.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Would you or anyone also comment on the TR Sun-Saturn conjunction 22º

>>>>>> Gemini July 7-8 for Cancer lagna?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thank you.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Janna

>>>>>>

>>>>>> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

>>>>>> Venus Rx May 17, 2004 3:28 PM - June 29, 2004 - 4:15 PM EST

>>>>>>

>>>>>> May 17 Venus Rx 2º Gemini Sun 3º Taurus HOUSE 11

>>>>>> May 28 Venus Rx 29º Taurus Sun 13º Taurus

>>>>>> June 01 Venus Rx 27º Taurus Sun 17º Taurus

>>>>>> June 8 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 24º Taurus conjunct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

>>>>>> June 9 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 25º Taurus

>>>>>> July 27 Venus D 27º Taurus conjuct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

>>>>>>

>>>>>> June 14 Sun in Gemini HOUSE 12

>>>>>> July 7-8`Sun 22ºGemini TR Saturn 22º Gemini

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

>>>>>>> Dear Cynthia,

>>>>>>> I've happened to explore this. As I said, it's nothing spectacular

>>> /unle=

>>>>>> ss very

>>>>>> supported by other factors/ but is a breeze among all those heavy

>>> transits!=

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Only 'inferior conjunction' counts, because Venus is closest to the

>>> earth=

>>>>>> at

>>>>>> that time, time of retrogression, and its /Venus/ effects easily

>>> manifested=

>>>>>> . /The

>>>>>> same is with Mars retrogression/ Whether this conj. was preceded by

>>>>>> 'superior' or nor, Venus will touch the point of conjunction with the

>>> Sun, =

>>>>>> go

>>>>>> backwards, and than, in direct motion, cross the same point again- the

>>> enti=

>>>>>> re

>>>>>> period is 'full of Venus"!!!

>>>>>>> To give you an example: for my Son, for example, this happens in his

>>> 7th =

>>>>>>

>>>>>> House and I am sure NEW LOVE will find HIM at that time! /In fact if

>>> you

>>>>>> remember, couple of years ago similar things happened- Venus was

>>> hanging

>>>>>> around Ta Dsc of my son, AFTER conj. with Sun. - my son's seventh cusp,

>>> and=

>>>>>>

>>>>>> he laughed when I told him the girl will literally 'jump' on him- thank

>>> ast=

>>>>>> rology,

>>>>>> my son doesn't think I am that stupid any longer.

>>>>>>> I noticed that the cusps 1,7,10,4, are the most 'reactive' sensitive,

>>> the=

>>>>>> n

>>>>>> conjunction with NT planets comes.

>>>>>>> Feel free to ask any more questions, Cynthia,

>>>>>>> and enjoy the transit!

>>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> -

>>>>>>> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

>>>>>>> <gjlist>

>>>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 4:01 PM

>>>>>>> RE: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Anna

>>>>>>>> I hear in your kessage that this is very important and relevant.

>>>>>>>> Would you mind giving an exaple of how this might manifest for an

>>>>>>>> individual?

>>>>>>>> c

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

>>>>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 10:48 AM

>>>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>>> [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> An exceptional event will take place on Jun 8th 2004- Venus retro

>>> will =

>>>>>>

>>>>>> make

>>>>>>>> a conjunction with Sun in Taurus- it is important:due to retrograde

>>> mot=

>>>>>> ion

>>>>>>>> will stay within orb within Sun much longer, thus, more important..

>>> Thi=

>>>>>> s is

>>>>>>>> called 'inferior conjunction' of Venus- as opposed to quick fleeting,

>>>>>>>> 'superior conjunction of direct Venus.

>>>>>>>> The PERIOD SHOULD BE counted from the time Venus /direct/ makes

>>>>>> fleeting

>>>>>>>> conj. with the Sun, than conjunct it in retro-motion, go backward,

>>> and =

>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> direst to reach the point of 'inferior' /powerful/ conjunction again-

>>>>>>>> Three points, thus, are the most important: /and the period in

>>> between/=

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> 1/ when Venus reaches the point of conjunction

>>>>>>>> 2/than she goes back in retromotion

>>>>>>>> 3/ than goes direct, and reach the conjunction point again

>>>>>>>> The entire period is relevant,

>>>>>>>> particularly if the event touches natal planet /any/ during this

>>> period=

>>>>>> .

>>>>>>>> Also, see the house where it's happening /less important than conj.

>>> wit=

>>>>>> h

>>>>>>>> planet/

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Will any of your planets be touched by this event- that's major.

>>> Most

>>>>>>>> important thing happens when this occures on MC, IC, Asc, Desc.

>>>>>>>> Enjoy good news!

>>>>>>>> Cheers,

>>>>>>>> Anna

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Links

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Your

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Links

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Your

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Links

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>>

>>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>>

>>>>> Links

>>>>>

>>>>> gjlist/

>>>>>

>>>>> gjlist

>>>>>

>>>>> Your

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>>> : gjlist-

>>>>

>>>> Links

>>>>

>>>> gjlist/

>>>>

>>>> gjlist

>>>>

>>>> Your

>>>>

>>>

>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>>> : gjlist-

>>>

>>> Links

>>>

>>> gjlist/

>>>

>>> gjlist

>>>

>>> Your

>>>

>>

>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

>> : gjlist-

>>

>> Links

>>

>> gjlist/

>>

>> gjlist

>>

>> Your

>>

>

> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> : gjlist-

>

> Links

>

> gjlist/

>

> gjlist

>

> Your

>

February 1, 2004

Dear Francoise,

Not only that you do not have 'real' enemies /that's right, and I like your

'definition a lot!/,

BUT:

-Lord of 6th is in 12th- VPRYoga

-Lord of 6th aspects your Lagna Lord, so, your 'enemies' are VERY attracted

to you, respect you, seek you..would like to be friends with you...etc..

Thank you for understanding me right- BTW I have personal aversion twrd

'doom and gloom' predictions.- not a big deal to always predict

'evil'...Hey, Life is not easy, /but is fortunately more than that!/

Astrology proves that, too: How many benefics do we have? Ju and little

Venus?- but for some reasons we are meant to live and get the most of any

'light- and light do we get, for sure. Occasionally, at least, LOL!/to help

us endure?/

Warm regards,

Anna

-

"Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

Sunday, February 01, 2004 7:49 PM

Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

> Thanks Anna! It does help...

>

> I do agree about there being many factors/elements. So much to learn, so

> little time!

>

> The feeling of not having any "real" enemies is one I can relate to...key

> word here is "real" for me though...they are there, it's all in how I

> perceive them and their effect on me.

>

> Jupiter is in 12th, opposite my Venus...so these two planets do have that

> connection also.

>

> My original thoughts were mostly about benefic planets transiting malefic

> houses, especially when they retrograde. I've read and heard a lot of

"doom

> and gloom" about such placements and it's refreshing to hear your more

> balanced opinion and information. :0)

>

> Sincerely,

> Francoise

>

> On 2/1/04 0:12, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

>

> > Dear Francoise,

> > I have a feeling that some other rules play here- while Rahu/Venus story

is

> > also understandable, these rules apply as well. /I would suggest that

you look

> > at your Aroodha Lagna, as well, and A6 in Rashi/-and maybe strengthen

Venus

> > for a certain period of time?

> > It's been recently discussed on another list how economic situation,

where one

> > lives/works, affects that major area of employment

> >

> > I feel compelled to re-write what ' the book' says about VE Rx /SU in

8th:

> >

> > ..to reorganize one's affairs more efficiently, or to make the value of

one

> > offers more CONVINCING to others!sic ../me/ For some people, time of

> > self-renewal, personal reorientation towards more meaningful social or

> > religious ideals...

> >

> > Your NT Venus is in 6th, yes, But exalted, see Navamsa and other vargas

for

> > determining its strength- Lord of 6th /Ju/ accounts more for enemies,

but as

> > H.DeFoew says, Ju is a big negotiator and knows how to deal with

'enemies-

> > so, I would expect that you do that quite well, if having enemies at all

> > /don't know where Ju is, though/

> > I also have Ve in sixth in Ju sign, and often feel like don't have

/real/

> > enemies..If that's humanely possible!

> >

> > Hope this helps.

> > Yours,

> > Anna

> >

> > -

> > "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

> > <gjlist>

> > Saturday, January 31, 2004 10:43 PM

> > Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004/Francoise

> >

> >> Thanks Anna! and Sateesh also!

> >>

> >> Being a Libra asc...with Venus retrograde in 6th, I've experienced

being

> >> able to "overcome" difficulties involving enemies,....

> >>

> >> I can add my own experience of Rahu/Venus period. I've just come out

this

> >> dasha/bukti also (December) which has had some bright spots but many

> >> challenges and big life changes (job loss due to office politics and

board

> >> room battles and relationship break up)...surprising thing is that I

> >> attained a prestigious position, very quickly, a little before and at

the

> >> beginning of Rahu/Venus and lost it about half way through. The

relationship

> >> began and ended during this period as well. Anyhow, there are also some

> >> Saturn factors there (Sade Sati). But all this to say that Venus seems

to be

> >> a mixed blessing for me. Thankfully, I've never walked away bitter or

hating

> >> my enemies.

> >>

> >> Venus being lord of my 10th (career) will be dropping by for an

extended

> >> stay in my 8th house in a few months. I would expect a mixed

result,...but I

> >> have my Moon there, which may help to mitigate the negativity of the

8th

> >> house...also, being at a crossroad career-wise, this transit may be

more

> >> front and centre in my life as it touches my 10th.

> >>

> >> I'm definitely going to look out for Venus' ride through Taurus... ;-)

> >>

> >> Sincerely,

> >> Francoise

> >>

> >> On 1/31/04 19:41, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Francoise,

> >>>

> >>> This is a very valid question- if Ve tr., any, particularly this long

one,

> >>> through dusthana houses, is/could be 'pleasant'? I've seen Sateesh

response,

> >>> he didn't explicitly mention which type of Venus transit he was

referring

> >>> to, but tends to be sure that it was Venus which brought all these bad

> >>> results. Maybe, but it's hardly ever the case that one single factor

is

> >>> responsible for such a big event like job loss is...

> >>>

> >>> I feel tempted to type VeR/Su through each and every house, but I know

that

> >>> won't answer your dilemma. Based on my observation only, I would see

this

> >>> Venus transit PRIMARILY as an expression of its NATURAL BENEFIC

> >>> signification, regardless if it's FUNCTIONAL benefic or not in the

chart-

> >>> why would that be? My assumption is based on the fact that in this

> >>> particular case Venus is CLOSEST to the US/not U SofA/, earth, than in

other

> >>> situations, and empowered by solar qualities can 'shower' its

benevolence on

> >>> us. As it does, as per what I've seen.

> >>> My son's Venus owns 12th and 7th H- yet, VeR/Su proved to be very

benevolent

> >>> to him.

> >>> /I don't know what Sateesh was referring to, but Ve is lord of second

and

> >>> 9th- so, no dusthna involved whatsoever- no, I doubt Venus is to be

blamed,

> >>> anyway/

> >>>

> >>> I've seen Venus /this one/ transit 6thH, organization on the job was

easy,

> >>> coflicts handled more creatively, sometimes significant and harmonious

> >>> things happening in one's everyday environment- sometimes just an

> >>> inspiration of creative activity of some sort...Naturally much depends

on

> >>> the entire chart- is saturn happens to be ill-disposed to this

> >>> configuration, I guess that impulse may still be there /positive,

pleasant/

> >>> but more difficult to express.

> >>>

> >>> I had this tr over my NT Ju which conj. my MC- JU is not my money

planet at

> >>> all- one would expect job promotion, I did- instead, I resolved some

> >>> property issues nicely- yes, money was important, but perhaps my

'perceived'

> >>> status- and yes, it was very pleasant.

> >>>

> >>> I hope I answered your questions /we had and will have more of these

> >>> transits, in different signs, but anyway!/ I wish I had one in every

house,

> >>> all at once!

> >>>

> >>> Best wishes,

> >>> Anna

> >>>

> >>> -

> >>> "Francoise Methot" <francoisemethot

> >>> <gjlist>

> >>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:07 PM

> >>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> >>>

> >>>> Hi Anna,

> >>>>

> >>>> Thanks for the information about this upcoming important Venus

transit!

> >>>> (Food for thought over the next few months)...you say that it is

> >>> "generally

> >>>> pleasant"...which made me think of the effect of benefic planets,

like

> >>>> Venus, transiting difficult houses like 6th, 8th, 12th house..for

many

> >>>> people Venus may be spending lots of time in these houses.....I'd be

> >>>> interested in hearing your opnion and/or experience about a benefic

like

> >>>> Venus in these houses...

> >>>>

> >>>> Would anyone else have knowledge/experience on benefics (especially

Venus)

> >>>> transiting these houses? Cynthia? Sateesh? Roik?

> >>>>

> >>>> Sincerely,

> >>>> Francoise

> >>>>

> >>>> On 1/31/04 13:50, "N.Anna" <anmar wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> Dear Jana,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> As you know VeR/Su will happen in your 11th H. and Venus will spend

> >>> quite a

> >>>>> lot of time there.One 'safe' thing I can say is that It is generally

> >>> pleasant

> >>>>> occurrence,

> >>>>> however

> >>>>> I /nobody/ can give quite accurate prediction about 'idiosyncratic',

> >>> highly

> >>>>> personalized situation, as the chart as a whole, is- I guess you

would

> >>> agree.

> >>>>> Only an astrologer dealing with your horoscope in toto would be able

to

> >>> give a

> >>>>> specific comment.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> We are on the general ground here- hope this helps too.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Anna

> >>>>>

> >>>>> -

> >>>>> "Janna Lynn" <jnanalynn

> >>>>> <gjlist>

> >>>>> Saturday, January 31, 2004 9:20 AM

> >>>>> Re: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction Jun 8, 2004

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Anna:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Based on your Venus observations, would you comment on the transits

> >>> below

> >>>>>> (auspicious or inauspicious and in what way for Cancer lagna, 25º

> >>> Cancer, i=

> >>>>>> n

> >>>>>> House 11 (also with NT Rahu 27º Taurus) ? NT Venus is 16º Leo

(don't

> >>> know=

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> if this is a factor). I know that you are Cancer lagna also and

> >>> thought yo=

> >>>>>> ur

> >>>>>> insights might be relevant for me also.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Would you or anyone also comment on the TR Sun-Saturn conjunction

22º

> >>>>>> Gemini July 7-8 for Cancer lagna?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Thank you.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Janna

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> http://seven_directions.tripod.com/

> >>>>>> Venus Rx May 17, 2004 3:28 PM - June 29, 2004 - 4:15 PM EST

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> May 17 Venus Rx 2º Gemini Sun 3º Taurus HOUSE 11

> >>>>>> May 28 Venus Rx 29º Taurus Sun 13º Taurus

> >>>>>> June 01 Venus Rx 27º Taurus Sun 17º Taurus

> >>>>>> June 8 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 24º Taurus conjunct NT RAHU 27º

Taurus

> >>>>>> June 9 Venus Rx 23º Taurus Sun 25º Taurus

> >>>>>> July 27 Venus D 27º Taurus conjuct NT RAHU 27º Taurus

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> June 14 Sun in Gemini HOUSE 12

> >>>>>> July 7-8`Sun 22ºGemini TR Saturn 22º Gemini

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> gjlist, "N.Anna" <anmar@a...> wrote:

> >>>>>>> Dear Cynthia,

> >>>>>>> I've happened to explore this. As I said, it's nothing

spectacular

> >>> /unle=

> >>>>>> ss very

> >>>>>> supported by other factors/ but is a breeze among all those heavy

> >>> transits!=

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Only 'inferior conjunction' counts, because Venus is closest to

the

> >>> earth=

> >>>>>> at

> >>>>>> that time, time of retrogression, and its /Venus/ effects easily

> >>> manifested=

> >>>>>> . /The

> >>>>>> same is with Mars retrogression/ Whether this conj. was preceded by

> >>>>>> 'superior' or nor, Venus will touch the point of conjunction with

the

> >>> Sun, =

> >>>>>> go

> >>>>>> backwards, and than, in direct motion, cross the same point again-

the

> >>> enti=

> >>>>>> re

> >>>>>> period is 'full of Venus"!!!

> >>>>>>> To give you an example: for my Son, for example, this happens in

his

> >>> 7th =

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> House and I am sure NEW LOVE will find HIM at that time! /In fact

if

> >>> you

> >>>>>> remember, couple of years ago similar things happened- Venus was

> >>> hanging

> >>>>>> around Ta Dsc of my son, AFTER conj. with Sun. - my son's seventh

cusp,

> >>> and=

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> he laughed when I told him the girl will literally 'jump' on him-

thank

> >>> ast=

> >>>>>> rology,

> >>>>>> my son doesn't think I am that stupid any longer.

> >>>>>>> I noticed that the cusps 1,7,10,4, are the most 'reactive'

sensitive,

> >>> the=

> >>>>>> n

> >>>>>> conjunction with NT planets comes.

> >>>>>>> Feel free to ask any more questions, Cynthia,

> >>>>>>> and enjoy the transit!

> >>>>>>> Regards,

> >>>>>>> Anna

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> -

> >>>>>>> "cynthianovak" <cynthianovak@s...>

> >>>>>>> <gjlist>

> >>>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 4:01 PM

> >>>>>>> RE: [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Anna

> >>>>>>>> I hear in your kessage that this is very important and relevant.

> >>>>>>>> Would you mind giving an exaple of how this might manifest for an

> >>>>>>>> individual?

> >>>>>>>> c

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> N.Anna [anmar@a...]

> >>>>>>>> Friday, January 30, 2004 10:48 AM

> >>>>>>>> gjlist

> >>>>>>>> [GJ] VenusR-Sun conjunction JUn 8, 2004

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> An exceptional event will take place on Jun 8th 2004- Venus retro

> >>> will =

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> make

> >>>>>>>> a conjunction with Sun in Taurus- it is important:due to

retrograde

> >>> mot=

> >>>>>> ion

> >>>>>>>> will stay within orb within Sun much longer, thus, more

important..

> >>> Thi=

> >>>>>> s is

> >>>>>>>> called 'inferior conjunction' of Venus- as opposed to quick

fleeting,

> >>>>>>>> 'superior conjunction of direct Venus.

> >>>>>>>> The PERIOD SHOULD BE counted from the time Venus /direct/ makes

> >>>>>> fleeting

> >>>>>>>> conj. with the Sun, than conjunct it in retro-motion, go

backward,

> >>> and =

> >>>>>> that

> >>>>>>>> direst to reach the point of 'inferior' /powerful/ conjunction

again-

> >>>>>>>> Three points, thus, are the most important: /and the period in

> >>> between/=

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> 1/ when Venus reaches the point of conjunction

> >>>>>>>> 2/than she goes back in retromotion

> >>>>>>>> 3/ than goes direct, and reach the conjunction point again

> >>>>>>>> The entire period is relevant,

> >>>>>>>> particularly if the event touches natal planet /any/ during this

> >>> period=

> >>>>>> .

> >>>>>>>> Also, see the house where it's happening /less important than

conj.

> >>> wit=

> >>>>>> h

> >>>>>>>> planet/

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Will any of your planets be touched by this event- that's major.

> >>> Most

> >>>>>>>> important thing happens when this occures on MC, IC, Asc, Desc.

> >>>>>>>> Enjoy good news!

> >>>>>>>> Cheers,

> >>>>>>>> Anna

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat

> >>>>>>>> : gjlist-

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Links

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> gjlist/

> >>>>>>>>

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