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Dear Mr. Narinder Juneja and others;

 

I have a client that has me stomped and if you wouldn't mind

taking a look at her I would appreciate it. She has been dealing with water

retention all her life. Although most of it accumulates in her legs she

still retains it throughout her body.

 

 

 

Her Mercury is in combustion with her Sun in the 6th House and I

suspect this is the problem. Normally I just strength the weakest planets

with pretty good success but in her case her Mercury is already exalted.

 

 

 

She also has some anger issues (that she's suppressing) from

childhood abuse.

 

 

 

My question to you is, is it safe to strength a planet that is

already exalted?

 

 

 

Any information from anyone would be helpful ..... Thank you and

bless you ....... Noel ....

 

 

 

Here is her birth information.

 

 

 

Date 9/22/1952

 

Time 8:05 PM.

 

Place Fullerton, California USA

 

Latit. 33 52 13 North

 

Long. 117 55 28 West

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Noel Gilbert

 

Counselor

 

Body, Mind & Soul

 

LifeStyle Counselor

 

Ayurveda - Herbalism

 

Nutrition - Medical Astrology

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Noel

Generally for water issues i would look to the watery planets Moon and Venus

and the watery signs Cancer , Scorpio and Pisces .

I suspect the problem here is partly the Lagna Lord in the 8th house .

Although it is in it's own sign it is the most difficult house for a planet

to function . It is likely to be good for understanding mysterious knowledge

but is likely to also give mysterious health issues through life . Note that

scorpio is a water sign .

Another possibilty here is that Ketu is exactly on the rising degree of the

watery sign of Cancer .

The Sun as you have noted also is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of disease .

Generally it is not advised to strengthen malefics but Mars Mercury and Ketu

can have some remedials performed .

It looks like the chart of someone who likes to keep a distance from the

mainstream of society .

Hope this helps

Nicholas

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"Noel" <sattva

"Astrology List" <gjlist>

Monday, July 26, 2004 11:09 PM

[GJ] Water retention.

 

 

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> Dear Mr. Narinder Juneja and others;

>

> I have a client that has me stomped and if you wouldn't mind

> taking a look at her I would appreciate it. She has been dealing with

water

> retention all her life. Although most of it accumulates in her legs she

> still retains it throughout her body.

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>

>

> Her Mercury is in combustion with her Sun in the 6th House and

I

> suspect this is the problem. Normally I just strength the weakest planets

> with pretty good success but in her case her Mercury is already exalted.

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> She also has some anger issues (that she's suppressing) from

> childhood abuse.

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> My question to you is, is it safe to strength a planet that is

> already exalted?

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> Any information from anyone would be helpful ..... Thank you

and

> bless you ....... Noel ....

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> Here is her birth information.

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> Date 9/22/1952

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> Time 8:05 PM.

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> Place Fullerton, California USA

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> Latit. 33 52 13 North

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> Long. 117 55 28 West

>

Noel Gilbert

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> Counselor

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> Body, Mind & Soul

>

> LifeStyle Counselor

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> Ayurveda - Herbalism

>

> Nutrition - Medical Astrology

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>

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> : gjlist-

> Links

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Hi Dear Nicholas and Noel,

 

In the night I cast this chart and found as you have written as well

Nicholas. I was interested to see if there was any large affliction to

Jupiter or Moon, such as Gandanta or Mrityu Bhaga but didn't find anything

and it kept me up looking. The chart does show a lot of Kapha influence and

as you have said Nicolas, the Lagna Lord in the watery sign of Scorpio and

in the 8H.

 

Saturn giving almost an exact 3H aspect on this Lagnesh from the 6H and

Saturn is also in Moon's star. Also this RJupiter on the Lagna and Moon is

in Jupiter's star again giving Jupiter this Kapha influence. Jupiter owns

both the 9H and 12H, thighs, legs and feet. Also interesting Jupiter is in

Krittika, birth star of Moon.

 

I'm getting Ketu at 27:44 (Krishnamurti) and wondered what degree you are

getting it at Nicolas?

 

Ketu in Moon's sign and technically I guess we could call it Gandanta as

it's in the last 3.20 of Aslesha but barely so... on exact degree with

RJupiter in Lagna. Also Ketu co-owns Scorpio. In Navamsa Moon is right on

Aries, the Rasi Lagna, and Jupiter again casting both 5H aspect on that Moon

as well as 7H aspect on Navamsa Lagna from Sagittarius... Sun conjoined Ketu

and both in Pisces in Navamsa with Saturn in Cancer. Scorpio now in 6H...

 

As you both have said in Rasi Sun in 6H, and Jupiter, Mercury and Sun itself

all in Sun's star with Saturn conjoined with that Sun in 6H, owned by 3/6

house lord Mercury and closely conjunct. Saturn in Moon's star. Jupiter and

Moon are in exchange at the sub lord level.

 

Nicholas, I didn't know to think of Venus for water. Can you explain a

little on this? Interestingly Moon is with Venus in 7H Libra, sign of

balance.

 

With Jupiter Pratyantar beginning in August this is a good thing to be

looking into now and finding remedies. Does exercise help or aggravate her

problem? Scorpio also signifies stagnant water and I'm wondering about her

circulation??

 

Kindest regards,

Patrice

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Dear Noel

Generally for water issues i would look to the watery planets Moon and Venus

and the watery signs Cancer , Scorpio and Pisces .

I suspect the problem here is partly the Lagna Lord in the 8th house .

Although it is in it's own sign it is the most difficult house for a planet

to function . It is likely to be good for understanding mysterious knowledge

but is likely to also give mysterious health issues through life . Note that

scorpio is a water sign .

Another possibilty here is that Ketu is exactly on the rising degree of the

watery sign of Cancer .

The Sun as you have noted also is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of disease .

Generally it is not advised to strengthen malefics but Mars Mercury and Ketu

can have some remedials performed .

It looks like the chart of someone who likes to keep a distance from the

mainstream of society .

Hope this helps

Nicholas

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Dear Nicholas and Noel,

 

I've come across a book that lists, as one of Ketu's significators,

'diseases in water-born parts of body.' Have either of you ever heard this

for Ketu before?

 

It's interesting that the native of Noel's chart is in Ketu Mahadasa since

last year in August. You did say though Noel that she has suffered this all

her life. I'm wondering if it has become significantly worse over this last

year. The other thing is in transit Rahu/Ketu are over her ascendant with

Rahu on natal Jupiter, Ketu on natal Moon/Venus. This transiting Rahu/Ketu

have been on her 1/7 houses also since last August 2003. Of course before

that Ketu would have been on her natal Mars for some time as well.

 

Transiting Mars as her ascendant has been in Cancer in neecha since June

14th 2004. As I write Tuesday ruled by Mars and Moon is in Scorpio...

 

Kindest regards,

Patrice

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Dear Patrice

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> Nicholas, I didn't know to think of Venus for water. Can you explain a

> little on this? Interestingly Moon is with Venus in 7H Libra, sign of

> balance.

 

Just that Venus' element is water . Sometimes people who have a water

problem have a disturbed Venus and or Moon . This doesn't seem to be the

case here . I would say here the problem here is a combination of Mars'

placement in the 8th a watery sign and / or Ketu being on the rising degree

of watery Cancer . As you point out the native is in Ketu MD .

 

A while back I had a chart of someone who drowned ( unfortunately I'm not

sure where it is ) but I remember Venus and Moon both being disturbed .Both

being watery they are connected with the emotional side of a person . If one

is troubled but the other fine the person may fare reasonably emotionally

but when both are disturbed you have the ingredients for a Charles Manson

:-)

 

Nicholas

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