Guest guest Posted July 26, 2004 Report Share Posted July 26, 2004 Dear Mr. Narinder Juneja and others; I have a client that has me stomped and if you wouldn't mind taking a look at her I would appreciate it. She has been dealing with water retention all her life. Although most of it accumulates in her legs she still retains it throughout her body. Her Mercury is in combustion with her Sun in the 6th House and I suspect this is the problem. Normally I just strength the weakest planets with pretty good success but in her case her Mercury is already exalted. She also has some anger issues (that she's suppressing) from childhood abuse. My question to you is, is it safe to strength a planet that is already exalted? Any information from anyone would be helpful ..... Thank you and bless you ....... Noel .... Here is her birth information. Date 9/22/1952 Time 8:05 PM. Place Fullerton, California USA Latit. 33 52 13 North Long. 117 55 28 West Noel Gilbert Counselor Body, Mind & Soul LifeStyle Counselor Ayurveda - Herbalism Nutrition - Medical Astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Noel Generally for water issues i would look to the watery planets Moon and Venus and the watery signs Cancer , Scorpio and Pisces . I suspect the problem here is partly the Lagna Lord in the 8th house . Although it is in it's own sign it is the most difficult house for a planet to function . It is likely to be good for understanding mysterious knowledge but is likely to also give mysterious health issues through life . Note that scorpio is a water sign . Another possibilty here is that Ketu is exactly on the rising degree of the watery sign of Cancer . The Sun as you have noted also is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of disease . Generally it is not advised to strengthen malefics but Mars Mercury and Ketu can have some remedials performed . It looks like the chart of someone who likes to keep a distance from the mainstream of society . Hope this helps Nicholas - "Noel" <sattva "Astrology List" <gjlist> Monday, July 26, 2004 11:09 PM [GJ] Water retention. > > > Dear Mr. Narinder Juneja and others; > > I have a client that has me stomped and if you wouldn't mind > taking a look at her I would appreciate it. She has been dealing with water > retention all her life. Although most of it accumulates in her legs she > still retains it throughout her body. > > > > Her Mercury is in combustion with her Sun in the 6th House and I > suspect this is the problem. Normally I just strength the weakest planets > with pretty good success but in her case her Mercury is already exalted. > > > > She also has some anger issues (that she's suppressing) from > childhood abuse. > > > > My question to you is, is it safe to strength a planet that is > already exalted? > > > > Any information from anyone would be helpful ..... Thank you and > bless you ....... Noel .... > > > > Here is her birth information. > > > > Date 9/22/1952 > > Time 8:05 PM. > > Place Fullerton, California USA > > Latit. 33 52 13 North > > Long. 117 55 28 West > Noel Gilbert > > Counselor > > Body, Mind & Soul > > LifeStyle Counselor > > Ayurveda - Herbalism > > Nutrition - Medical Astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > : gjlist- > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Hi Dear Nicholas and Noel, In the night I cast this chart and found as you have written as well Nicholas. I was interested to see if there was any large affliction to Jupiter or Moon, such as Gandanta or Mrityu Bhaga but didn't find anything and it kept me up looking. The chart does show a lot of Kapha influence and as you have said Nicolas, the Lagna Lord in the watery sign of Scorpio and in the 8H. Saturn giving almost an exact 3H aspect on this Lagnesh from the 6H and Saturn is also in Moon's star. Also this RJupiter on the Lagna and Moon is in Jupiter's star again giving Jupiter this Kapha influence. Jupiter owns both the 9H and 12H, thighs, legs and feet. Also interesting Jupiter is in Krittika, birth star of Moon. I'm getting Ketu at 27:44 (Krishnamurti) and wondered what degree you are getting it at Nicolas? Ketu in Moon's sign and technically I guess we could call it Gandanta as it's in the last 3.20 of Aslesha but barely so... on exact degree with RJupiter in Lagna. Also Ketu co-owns Scorpio. In Navamsa Moon is right on Aries, the Rasi Lagna, and Jupiter again casting both 5H aspect on that Moon as well as 7H aspect on Navamsa Lagna from Sagittarius... Sun conjoined Ketu and both in Pisces in Navamsa with Saturn in Cancer. Scorpio now in 6H... As you both have said in Rasi Sun in 6H, and Jupiter, Mercury and Sun itself all in Sun's star with Saturn conjoined with that Sun in 6H, owned by 3/6 house lord Mercury and closely conjunct. Saturn in Moon's star. Jupiter and Moon are in exchange at the sub lord level. Nicholas, I didn't know to think of Venus for water. Can you explain a little on this? Interestingly Moon is with Venus in 7H Libra, sign of balance. With Jupiter Pratyantar beginning in August this is a good thing to be looking into now and finding remedies. Does exercise help or aggravate her problem? Scorpio also signifies stagnant water and I'm wondering about her circulation?? Kindest regards, Patrice ________ Dear Noel Generally for water issues i would look to the watery planets Moon and Venus and the watery signs Cancer , Scorpio and Pisces . I suspect the problem here is partly the Lagna Lord in the 8th house . Although it is in it's own sign it is the most difficult house for a planet to function . It is likely to be good for understanding mysterious knowledge but is likely to also give mysterious health issues through life . Note that scorpio is a water sign . Another possibilty here is that Ketu is exactly on the rising degree of the watery sign of Cancer . The Sun as you have noted also is closely conjunct the 6th Lord of disease . Generally it is not advised to strengthen malefics but Mars Mercury and Ketu can have some remedials performed . It looks like the chart of someone who likes to keep a distance from the mainstream of society . Hope this helps Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Nicholas and Noel, I've come across a book that lists, as one of Ketu's significators, 'diseases in water-born parts of body.' Have either of you ever heard this for Ketu before? It's interesting that the native of Noel's chart is in Ketu Mahadasa since last year in August. You did say though Noel that she has suffered this all her life. I'm wondering if it has become significantly worse over this last year. The other thing is in transit Rahu/Ketu are over her ascendant with Rahu on natal Jupiter, Ketu on natal Moon/Venus. This transiting Rahu/Ketu have been on her 1/7 houses also since last August 2003. Of course before that Ketu would have been on her natal Mars for some time as well. Transiting Mars as her ascendant has been in Cancer in neecha since June 14th 2004. As I write Tuesday ruled by Mars and Moon is in Scorpio... Kindest regards, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Patrice > > Nicholas, I didn't know to think of Venus for water. Can you explain a > little on this? Interestingly Moon is with Venus in 7H Libra, sign of > balance. Just that Venus' element is water . Sometimes people who have a water problem have a disturbed Venus and or Moon . This doesn't seem to be the case here . I would say here the problem here is a combination of Mars' placement in the 8th a watery sign and / or Ketu being on the rising degree of watery Cancer . As you point out the native is in Ketu MD . A while back I had a chart of someone who drowned ( unfortunately I'm not sure where it is ) but I remember Venus and Moon both being disturbed .Both being watery they are connected with the emotional side of a person . If one is troubled but the other fine the person may fare reasonably emotionally but when both are disturbed you have the ingredients for a Charles Manson :-) Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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