Guest guest Posted November 10, 2004 Report Share Posted November 10, 2004 Hi John R. Continuing the dialogue, it is true as you state that a certain action begets a similar reaction. However, this has been the case since the beginning of time not jut the Bush presidency. Karmic roots sprout since "the battle between the Kauravas and Pandavas began." The Bhagavad Gita starts with two armies gathered and poised for battle. At that point it's still "potential" karmas waiting to be played out. Once the battle begins, karmic laws kick in and we find ourselves deeply into a long ongoing complexity. Iraqis, Afghans, Americans, Brits, Poles, Aussies and all others are equally involved acting out their karmas, knowingly or unknowingly, since beginning of time. And from one point of view everything is probably exactly as it should be. But from the point of view of a person who believes in a separate self that is able to act independently, it's a mess impossible to be understood and even less controlled towards a specific outcome. Which does not mean that we throw up our hands and give up acting. We all have our dharma to adhere to. Some of us are warriors, others are teachers, servants or merchants, others yet are still confused… War, life, birth, death, sickness, triumph, good and bad are part of the play of the relative field of existence. Like a jungle with animals eating each other, plants decaying and making compost for other plants, there never was meant to be a time of "more" peace, "less" death or anything other than what actually is. To presume to know better what the ultimate purpose of creation and life "should be" is rather ambitious. To the degree that we see ourselves as a separate entity independent from the larger order, we suffer. This is what we call suffering from our human, ego-based perspective. To overcome this form of suffering (which is probably the only form of suffering that exists) we need to understand that in reality that which we call a separate self/person/ego, i.e. the stuff of the three gunas, merely responds to the laws of karma and dharma that have been at work since forever and we can only see the tip of this iceberg. Our individual freedom or liberation comes from rendering the three gunas transparent, not abolishing or changing them. The big mistake most people make is to fall for the Marxist ideology wherein the gunas is all there is and we "better distribute them fairly," that's usually referred to as utopia. Another mistake, somewhat less big, is the capitalist notion that an individual can achieve private utopia by hard work and effort. Look around. There is not much of either utopia to be seen; but given a choice which system is better, I would opt for the one permitting a larger degree of freedom. You figure out yourself which it is for you. Change yourself to adapt to the world, or make the world adapt to you. Jola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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