Bush-Dharmas&Karmas

[Guest guest]

As Shabnam wrote:

 

<<<But for the mushrooms & forest fires, where would be the possibility of

new growth?

 

( I'm hoping that the escalating oil prices from all these wars, will push

someone enough to rediscover an alternative energy source, which uses fusion

rather than fission principles)

 

Judgment without wisdom is probably among the most lethal dangers to

existence but on the other hand its the source of all tensions of duality,

without

which there would be no Lila.>>>

 

Couldn't agree more. Apparently liberation consists in part of recognizing

that what is going on in nature has its place and purpose and that includes,

death, fire, winter, petrol, corporations and even Marxists… If I were to

gamble,

I would bet that as soon as we exhaust fossil fuels we will immediately have

an alternative source of energy available…but not a day sooner.

This does not mean that we therefore should be fatalistic about anything. To

"understand" that everything has its place is wisdom, but it does not change

one bit our dharma and what we must do in or with our life. We act without the

3 gunas (as lord Krishna recommends: be without the three gunas Arjuna, in the

state of yoga perform action) better than we would when blinded by the three

gunas; and certainly more appropriately.

There are two things going on simultaneously. Consciousness, unlimited,

timeless and untouched by events is always existing, and there is the

battlefield

of relative life/karma that is playing itself out in its ever-changing way, but

according to precise laws. The two don't mix. Discerning the difference is

wisdom and freedom and non-attachment and bliss and all the other good things…

Mixing the two is where the fallacy of ignorance occurs. The more we muddle,

the more we suffer. The intrinsic nature (sat, chit ananda) of one cannot be

used as a measuring stick for the other. A pig with lipstick won't make it into

the beauty pageant.

[Guest guest]

There are two things going on simultaneously. Consciousness, unlimited,

> timeless and untouched by events is always existing, and there is the

battlefield

> of relative life/karma that is playing itself out in its ever-changing way,

but

> according to precise laws. The two don't mix.

 

This is not my dialogue (trialogue?) but I can't help thinking that if the two

things don't

mix then what is the point? Get me to a nunnery or monastery immediately! I

thought the

battefield was part of the "churning" towards amrita?

 

Respectfully,

 

David "To Weave" Engisch

 

 

valist, Aikido108@a... wrote:

> As Shabnam wrote:

>

> <<<But for the mushrooms & forest fires, where would be the possibility of

> new growth?

>

> ( I'm hoping that the escalating oil prices from all these wars, will push

> someone enough to rediscover an alternative energy source, which uses fusion

> rather than fission principles)

>

> Judgment without wisdom is probably among the most lethal dangers to

> existence but on the other hand its the source of all tensions of duality,

without

> which there would be no Lila.>>>

>

> Couldn't agree more. Apparently liberation consists in part of recognizing

> that what is going on in nature has its place and purpose and that includes,

> death, fire, winter, petrol, corporations and even Marxists… If I were to

gamble,

> I would bet that as soon as we exhaust fossil fuels we will immediately have

> an alternative source of energy available…but not a day sooner.

> This does not mean that we therefore should be fatalistic about anything. To

> "understand" that everything has its place is wisdom, but it does not change

> one bit our dharma and what we must do in or with our life. We act without the

> 3 gunas (as lord Krishna recommends: be without the three gunas Arjuna, in the

> state of yoga perform action) better than we would when blinded by the three

> gunas; and certainly more appropriately.

> There are two things going on simultaneously. Consciousness, unlimited,

> timeless and untouched by events is always existing, and there is the

battlefield

> of relative life/karma that is playing itself out in its ever-changing way,

but

> according to precise laws. The two don't mix. Discerning the difference is

> wisdom and freedom and non-attachment and bliss and all the other good

things…

> Mixing the two is where the fallacy of ignorance occurs. The more we muddle,

> the more we suffer. The intrinsic nature (sat, chit ananda) of one cannot be

> used as a measuring stick for the other. A pig with lipstick won't make it

into

> the beauty pageant.