Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 > Mars if strong can make one good in tantra or experiment in > it. It's One of characteristics of Ruchaka mahapurusha yoga. > These person can use yantra or tantra (like Hitler using > Swastika in tilted form etc) Interesting. Could you explain the effects of tilting the swastika, but start with what swastika is originally, then what reversing/tilting would do. That symbol is found on ancient pottery in Germany, and Norway. The Tuetonic peoples, the Germans, and the Celts (non-German whites) all had Swastikas on various things, figuring prominently, such as in the center of the great shield found in the Thames, probably a Celtic offering to Gods from thousands of years back. The presence of Sanskrit in these old languages, especially Gaelic, celtic language derivitive, seems apparent. The flow of ideas from ancient east then westwards after the European ice age seems clear. All very interesting. Explain as you like. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Rick, Svastika is derived from word 'svasta', svasta = su+astu = "good" + "it is". 'ka' affixed to create the noun form ( physical material form) of the verb. Like Kaaraka from Karma etc. The ruling deity of Swastika is Lord Ganesha, (Signified by Ketu). Swastika some say is derived from a Lotus petals. It's 4 petalled signifying the 4 petalled muladhara chakra in end of spine. Ganesha Rules mooladhara and it indicates creation and sustenance in physical world. In terms of Jyotish, Swastika is ruled by Ketu as it's deity is Ganesha. (Interesting if you not Microsoft Windows logo is like swatika and is it conincident that Bill gates is the richest man? and Ketu rules electronics and mathematics) Ketu and Mars are complementary, They are two sons of same parents Ganesha and Karthikeya, one intellectually strong and other militarily/physically strong being military general for the Divines. Ketu rules pisacha or those with no body and Mars the physical body. Hence Ketu and mars conjunction gives Pisacha baadha or attackes from evil spirits. Ganesha's Story is that he came from being dead. So Ganesha controls all the Ganas and evil spirits and rules the Muladhara chakra. There are two forms of Swatika one clockwise and another anticlock wise. As with Tantra in general it indicates two paths, right handed and left handed. One understanding the Prakritti or creation and another trying to understand nivritti, the destruction in universe. Clockwise swatika is auspicious and gives prosperity. No Yantra or diety should be tilted or mutilated, If the Yantra was properly worshiped/meditated the dieties energies gets disturbed. These are from what I have understood and some web reference given below. Warm Regards Sanjay P Hari Om Tat Sat ----------------------------- Another article on Swastika. http://www.himalayanacademy.com/resources/books/lg/lg_ch-07.html http://www.quicklyfind.com/info/swastika.htm -------------------------------- Monier Williams on Swastika *any lucky or auspicious object , (esp.) a kind of mystical cross or mark made on persons and things to denote good luck (it is shaped like a Greek cross with the extremities of the four arms bent round in the same direction ; the majority of scholars regard it as a solar symbol ; that is , as representing a curtailed form of the wheel of the Solar Vishn2u , consisting of four spokes crossing each other at right angles with short fragments of the periphery of the circle at the end of each spoke turning round in one direction to denote the course of the Sun ; accord. to the late Sir A. Cunningham it has no connexion with sun-worship , but its shape represents a monogram or interlacing of the letters of the auspicious words %{su@asti4} [%{svasti}] in the As3oka characters ; amongst Jainas it is one of the 24 auspicious marks and is the emblem of the seventh Arhat of the present Avasarpin2i1) Hariv. Ka1v. Pur. --------------- valist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > Mars if strong can make one good in tantra or experiment in > > it. It's One of characteristics of Ruchaka mahapurusha yoga. > > These person can use yantra or tantra (like Hitler using > > Swastika in tilted form etc) > > Interesting. > > Could you explain the effects of tilting the swastika, but start with what > swastika is originally, then what reversing/tilting would do. > > That symbol is found on ancient pottery in Germany, and Norway. The Tuetonic > peoples, the Germans, and the Celts (non-German whites) all had Swastikas on > various things, figuring prominently, such as in the center of the great > shield found in the Thames, probably a Celtic offering to Gods from > thousands of years back. > > The presence of Sanskrit in these old languages, especially Gaelic, celtic > language derivitive, seems apparent. The flow of ideas from ancient east > then westwards after the European ice age seems clear. All very interesting. > > Explain as you like. > > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 Very interesting, about the Swastika. You know, it's a perfect representation of the angle, the four, the square, the antithesis of the circle, round, irresolvable. This is male and female, and Swastika, square, is masculine, in my world view, and represents power, taking charge, material progress, materially solid foundations. Vastu deals heavily in squares and keeping things square. It's interesting to me that the Celts were about circles, as were some other cultures. The etruscans, a pre rome Italian religion were into circles and complete believed in astrology. Anyway, Circles and Squares, very interesting to me. Could go on forever on that topic. Like, the Fibernacci number sequences, and how those are formed from either squares or a spiral, the spiral is formed from the squares, etc. The Greeks were heavily into this, the "Golden mean". It seems the ancient knowledge of Tantra was spread from India to Greece to Ireland?!?! Das Goravani, Pres. Service http://www.dancingmooninc.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear Rick, It's interesting you said about Squares and circles, The Geometric shape assigned to Mooladhara Chakra in tantra is Square and the color is Yellow. Warm Regards Sanjay P. Om Tat Sat valist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > Very interesting, about the Swastika. > > You know, it's a perfect representation of the angle, the four, the square, > the antithesis of the circle, round, irresolvable. This is male and female, > and Swastika, square, is masculine, in my world view, and represents power, > taking charge, material progress, materially solid foundations. Vastu deals > heavily in squares and keeping things square. It's interesting to me that > the Celts were about circles, as were some other cultures. The etruscans, a > pre rome Italian religion were into circles and complete believed in > astrology. > > Anyway, Circles and Squares, very interesting to me. Could go on forever on > that topic. > > Like, the Fibernacci number sequences, and how those are formed from either > squares or a spiral, the spiral is formed from the squares, etc. The Greeks > were heavily into this, the "Golden mean". It seems the ancient knowledge > of Tantra was spread from India to Greece to Ireland?!?! > > > > Das Goravani, Pres. > > > > > Service@D... > > > > > > http://www.dancingmooninc.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 There are four petals on the mooladhara chakra, and as Sanjay P says, Ganesha controls the Mooladara chakra. Each petal has 3 qualities, and those include control of all spirits and ability to expel possessions/evil spirits. Ganesha does control the Ganas also. The mooladhara is below the Kundalini which exists in non realised souls as three and a half coils. The chakra system was described in many scriptures, including sri lalita sastranama where the 7 chakras are described, and also interestingly enough descriptions remain in the bible, perhaps because unrecognized as they were, they were not expunged. In revelations for example, 3 and a half is mentioned a few times, and it can only be describing the kundalini dormant power. And when the 7th door is opened in revelations, obviously describing the 7 chakras, when the final one opens, theres silence for half an hour, describing the state of consciouness one experiences quite aptly. The coil symbol has been seen in art throughout the world, Most famously perhaps in australian aboriginal artwork where the rainbow serpent and the coils are ancient symbols frequently reoccuring in artwork. Its not a surprise to see such a potent spiritual symbol occuring in artwork in different cultures. No doubt this link may have occured because its this image resurfaces in the unconscious as regardless of culture and tradition this energy exists within us. Rama's sons Luv and Kush did leave india and one became king in china and the other in russia thus spreading the sanscript language and culture widely in ancient times. No doubt in the deep past this was a very powerful culture. According to the mayans we are at the end of an age, the 5th part of started 3000BC, prior to this no doubt ancient vedic culture spread far and wide. 15-18 years ago in science digest I discoved an article where scients combined the elements present in the Mooladhara chakra and passed an electric current through it in an attempt to recreate the conditions they thought were present at the time life was created on the earth. They showed a photograph they took during the experiment. It was of a swastika that spontaneously appeared in midair. Sorry to say when moving house later, I lost the magazine. dawn w valist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > Mars if strong can make one good in tantra or experiment in > > it. It's One of characteristics of Ruchaka mahapurusha yoga. > > These person can use yantra or tantra (like Hitler using > > Swastika in tilted form etc) > > Interesting. > > Could you explain the effects of tilting the swastika, but start with what > swastika is originally, then what reversing/tilting would do. > > That symbol is found on ancient pottery in Germany, and Norway. The Tuetonic > peoples, the Germans, and the Celts (non-German whites) all had Swastikas on > various things, figuring prominently, such as in the center of the great > shield found in the Thames, probably a Celtic offering to Gods from > thousands of years back. > > The presence of Sanskrit in these old languages, especially Gaelic, celtic > language derivitive, seems apparent. The flow of ideas from ancient east > then westwards after the European ice age seems clear. All very interesting. > > Explain as you like. > > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Hello dear Dawn, Hare Krishna. Hope this finds you in the best of your health and spirit. YOU WROTE ; Rama's sons Luv and Kush did leave india and one became king in china and the other in russia thus spreading the sanscript language and culture widely in ancient times. No doubt in the deep past this was a very powerful culture. According to the mayans we are at the end of an age, the 5th part of started 3000BC, prior to this no doubt ancient vedic culture spread far and wide. VERY INTERESTING. What is the source of the above information and where does the information of Luv and Kush ruling China and Russia come from, Dawn. Thanks for sharing. Hari BOL...............Amar Puri. >"Dawn" <astrodawnau >valist >valist >Re: Swasti and Tantra >Sat, 05 Feb 2005 04:41:22 -0000 > > > >There are four petals on the mooladhara chakra, and as Sanjay P says, >Ganesha controls the Mooladara chakra. Each petal has 3 qualities, >and those include control of all spirits and ability to expel >possessions/evil spirits. Ganesha does control the Ganas also. > >The mooladhara is below the Kundalini which exists in non realised >souls as three and a half coils. The chakra system was described in >many scriptures, including sri lalita sastranama where the 7 chakras >are described, and also interestingly enough descriptions remain in >the bible, perhaps because unrecognized as they were, they were not >expunged. > >In revelations for example, 3 and a half is mentioned a few times, >and it can only be describing the kundalini dormant power. And when >the 7th door is opened in revelations, obviously describing the 7 >chakras, when the final one opens, theres silence for half an hour, >describing the state of consciouness one experiences quite aptly. > >The coil symbol has been seen in art throughout the world, Most >famously perhaps in australian aboriginal artwork where the rainbow >serpent and the coils are ancient symbols frequently reoccuring in >artwork. > >Its not a surprise to see such a potent spiritual symbol occuring in >artwork in different cultures. No doubt this link may have occured >because its this image resurfaces in the unconscious as regardless of >culture and tradition this energy exists within us. > >Rama's sons Luv and Kush did leave india and one became king in china >and the other in russia thus spreading the sanscript language and >culture widely in ancient times. No doubt in the deep past this was a >very powerful culture. According to the mayans we are at the end of >an age, the 5th part of started 3000BC, prior to this no doubt >ancient vedic culture spread far and wide. > > >15-18 years ago in science digest I discoved an article where scients >combined the elements present in the Mooladhara chakra and passed an >electric current through it in an attempt to recreate the conditions >they thought were present at the time life was created on the earth. >They showed a photograph they took during the experiment. It was of a >swastika that spontaneously appeared in midair. > >Sorry to say when moving house later, I lost the magazine. > > >dawn w > > > > > > > > >valist, Das Goravani <das@g...> wrote: > > > Mars if strong can make one good in tantra or experiment in > > > it. It's One of characteristics of Ruchaka mahapurusha yoga. > > > These person can use yantra or tantra (like Hitler using > > > Swastika in tilted form etc) > > > > Interesting. > > > > Could you explain the effects of tilting the swastika, but start >with what > > swastika is originally, then what reversing/tilting would do. > > > > That symbol is found on ancient pottery in Germany, and Norway. The >Tuetonic > > peoples, the Germans, and the Celts (non-German whites) all had >Swastikas on > > various things, figuring prominently, such as in the center of the >great > > shield found in the Thames, probably a Celtic offering to Gods from > > thousands of years back. > > > > The presence of Sanskrit in these old languages, especially Gaelic, >celtic > > language derivitive, seems apparent. The flow of ideas from ancient >east > > then westwards after the European ice age seems clear. All very >interesting. > > > > Explain as you like. > > > > Rick > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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