Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth dates. shiavo case.

March 24, 2005

I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in the

news and its always very informative.

I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents and the

husband and the parents are obviously attached to the daughter, but

its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved on

with another woman and children, and who benefits financially by her

death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a live

in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper care

that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say she is

very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and that

all that can be done for her has been done.

Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious dispute.

And if the parents are correct there may be very serious concerns

about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to any

conclusions.

So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts, but

could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963. That was

vague so I looked at a prasna.

heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini, Moon 0

Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes = rahu

28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius, Venus

8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded that for

various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with Sun

opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning, both had

this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

Scorpio.

The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st December,

had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus Conjunct

Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most likely. By

chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather than 2nd.

I had done about three internet searches to get this much

information, but I did another variation and this time I actually

found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the correctness

of the prasna in this case.

You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that differ.

In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury ruled sign

and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date of

birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and Venus. So

theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna ascendant is

Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa, Saturn

Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to Ketu till

late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the 9th house

of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the Sun and

Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will continue to

prevail legally.

March 24, 2005

Dear Dawn,

I was about to ask the list members who are in US for some

information about Terry's birth details. In absence of the details, prashna

kundli is very useful as you have shown. We should also notice the combust

state of venus, responsible for fields of nursing and hospitality. The

exalted mars has started a more pragmatic debate to this issue. But, as ketu

joins Jupiter today in virgo, it can covert into a bigger issue.

Ashutosh.

-

Dawn <astrodawnau

Friday, March 25, 2005 07:41

Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth dates. shiavo

case.

>

> I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in the

> news and its always very informative.

>

> I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

> debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents and the

> husband and the parents are obviously attached to the daughter, but

> its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved on

> with another woman and children, and who benefits financially by her

> death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a live

> in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

>

> The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper care

> that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

> medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say she is

> very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

>

> The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and that

> all that can be done for her has been done.

>

> Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious dispute.

> And if the parents are correct there may be very serious concerns

> about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to any

> conclusions.

>

> So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts, but

> could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963. That was

> vague so I looked at a prasna.

>

> heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini, Moon 0

> Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes = rahu

> 28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius, Venus

> 8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

>

> So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded that for

> various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with Sun

> opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning, both had

> this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

> Scorpio.

>

> The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st December,

> had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus Conjunct

> Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most likely. By

> chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather than 2nd.

>

> I had done about three internet searches to get this much

> information, but I did another variation and this time I actually

> found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the correctness

> of the prasna in this case.

>

> You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that differ.

> In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury ruled sign

> and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date of

> birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and Venus. So

> theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

>

> Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna ascendant is

> Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

>

> If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa, Saturn

> Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

> Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

> possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to Ketu till

> late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

>

> Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

> seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the 9th house

> of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the Sun and

> Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will continue to

> prevail legally.

>

> Links

>

March 25, 2005

Dear Dawn

I think you prasna is very informative. I have also thought of her

birth time - details of her life can be found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo

A birth-time of 10.00 would also fit rather well, I think. She fell

into coma on 25 February 1990. If we take 10.00 h as birth-time

transit Mars and Saturn would have been at her Ascendant. Today

transit Saturn would be at the cusp of 7th house.

She would have Sagittarius rising with Mercury, Venus, Mars and Ketu

in 1 and Moon/Rahu in 7. Saturn and Mercury would be marakas. In Feb

1990 she would have been in Saturn Rahu Mercury Dasha and now in

Saturn Rahu Ketu.

Her lagna would be in Purva Ashada that is ruled by Venus which may

point to your prasna lagna in Taurus.

This time would also make sense when using some techniques of

western astrology.

What do you think?

Best regards

Birgit

> -

> Dawn <astrodawnau>

> <valist>

> Friday, March 25, 2005 07:41

> Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth dates.

shiavo

> case.

>

> >

> > I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in the

> > news and its always very informative.

> >

> > I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

> > debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents and

the

> > husband and the parents are obviously attached to the daughter,

but

> > its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved on

> > with another woman and children, and who benefits financially by

her

> > death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a

live

> > in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

> >

> > The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper

care

> > that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

> > medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say

she is

> > very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

> >

> > The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and

that

> > all that can be done for her has been done.

> >

> > Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious

dispute.

> > And if the parents are correct there may be very serious concerns

> > about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to any

> > conclusions.

> >

> > So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts, but

> > could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963. That

was

> > vague so I looked at a prasna.

> >

> > heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini, Moon

0

> > Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes =

rahu

> > 28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius,

Venus

> > 8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

> >

> > So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded that

for

> > various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with Sun

> > opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning,

both had

> > this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

> > Scorpio.

> >

> > The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st

December,

> > had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus Conjunct

> > Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most likely.

By

> > chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather than

2nd.

> >

> > I had done about three internet searches to get this much

> > information, but I did another variation and this time I actually

> > found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the

correctness

> > of the prasna in this case.

> >

> > You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that

differ.

> > In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury ruled

sign

> > and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date of

> > birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and

Venus. So

> > theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

> >

> > Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna ascendant

is

> > Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

> >

> > If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa,

Saturn

> > Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

> > Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

> > possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to Ketu

till

> > late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

> >

> > Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

> > seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the 9th

house

> > of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the

Sun and

> > Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will

continue to

> > prevail legally.

March 25, 2005

Dear Dawn

Further to your prasna: Taurus rising would be very striking in

Schiavo's chart: Moon and Rahu in 2nd/Gemini versus Mercury, Venus,

Mars and Ketu in 8th/Sagittarius would show perfectly her eating

disorder "bulimia nervosa" that is said to have finally led to her

cardiac arrest in 1990!

Regards

Birgit

valist, "blue_starfish202"

<blue_starfish202> wrote:

>

> Dear Dawn

>

> I think you prasna is very informative. I have also thought of her

> birth time - details of her life can be found here:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo

>

> A birth-time of 10.00 would also fit rather well, I think. She

fell

> into coma on 25 February 1990. If we take 10.00 h as birth-time

> transit Mars and Saturn would have been at her Ascendant. Today

> transit Saturn would be at the cusp of 7th house.

>

> She would have Sagittarius rising with Mercury, Venus, Mars and

Ketu

> in 1 and Moon/Rahu in 7. Saturn and Mercury would be marakas. In

Feb

> 1990 she would have been in Saturn Rahu Mercury Dasha and now in

> Saturn Rahu Ketu.

>

> Her lagna would be in Purva Ashada that is ruled by Venus which

may

> point to your prasna lagna in Taurus.

>

> This time would also make sense when using some techniques of

> western astrology.

>

> What do you think?

>

> Best regards

> Birgit

>

> > -

> > Dawn <astrodawnau>

> > <valist>

> > Friday, March 25, 2005 07:41

> > Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth

dates.

> shiavo

> > case.

> >

> > >

> > > I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in

the

> > > news and its always very informative.

> > >

> > > I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

> > > debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents

and

> the

> > > husband and the parents are obviously attached to the

daughter,

> but

> > > its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved

on

> > > with another woman and children, and who benefits financially

by

> her

> > > death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a

> live

> > > in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

> > >

> > > The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper

> care

> > > that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

> > > medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say

> she is

> > > very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

> > >

> > > The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and

> that

> > > all that can be done for her has been done.

> > >

> > > Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious

> dispute.

> > > And if the parents are correct there may be very serious

concerns

> > > about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to

any

> > > conclusions.

> > >

> > > So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts,

but

> > > could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963.

That

> was

> > > vague so I looked at a prasna.

> > >

> > > heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini,

Moon

> 0

> > > Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes

=

> rahu

> > > 28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius,

> Venus

> > > 8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

> > >

> > > So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded

that

> for

> > > various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with

Sun

> > > opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning,

> both had

> > > this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

> > > Scorpio.

> > >

> > > The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st

> December,

> > > had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus

Conjunct

> > > Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most

likely.

> By

> > > chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather

than

> 2nd.

> > >

> > > I had done about three internet searches to get this much

> > > information, but I did another variation and this time I

actually

> > > found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the

> correctness

> > > of the prasna in this case.

> > >

> > > You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that

> differ.

> > > In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury

ruled

> sign

> > > and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date

of

> > > birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and

> Venus. So

> > > theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

> > >

> > > Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna

ascendant

> is

> > > Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

> > >

> > > If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa,

> Saturn

> > > Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

> > > Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

> > > possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to

Ketu

> till

> > > late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

> > >

> > > Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

> > > seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the

9th

> house

> > > of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the

> Sun and

> > > Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will

> continue to

> > > prevail legally.

March 25, 2005

When in doubt, always do the prasna chart.

There are millions without proper birth details and their planetary

trends can be predicted by the PRASHNA JYOTISH.

blue_starfish202 wrote:

>Dear Dawn

>

>Further to your prasna: Taurus rising would be very striking in

>Schiavo's chart: Moon and Rahu in 2nd/Gemini versus Mercury, Venus,

>Mars and Ketu in 8th/Sagittarius would show perfectly her eating

>disorder "bulimia nervosa" that is said to have finally led to her

>cardiac arrest in 1990!

>

>Regards

>Birgit

>

>valist, "blue_starfish202"

><blue_starfish202> wrote:

>

>>Dear Dawn

>>

>>I think you prasna is very informative. I have also thought of her

>>birth time - details of her life can be found here:

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo

>>

>>A birth-time of 10.00 would also fit rather well, I think. She

>>

>fell

>

>>into coma on 25 February 1990. If we take 10.00 h as birth-time

>>transit Mars and Saturn would have been at her Ascendant. Today

>>transit Saturn would be at the cusp of 7th house.

>>

>>She would have Sagittarius rising with Mercury, Venus, Mars and

>>

>Ketu

>

>>in 1 and Moon/Rahu in 7. Saturn and Mercury would be marakas. In

>>

>Feb

>

>>1990 she would have been in Saturn Rahu Mercury Dasha and now in

>>Saturn Rahu Ketu.

>>

>>Her lagna would be in Purva Ashada that is ruled by Venus which

>>

>may

>

>>point to your prasna lagna in Taurus.

>>

>>This time would also make sense when using some techniques of

>>western astrology.

>>

>>What do you think?

>>

>>Best regards

>>Birgit

>>

>>>-

>>>Dawn <astrodawnau>

>>><valist>

>>>Friday, March 25, 2005 07:41

>>>Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth

>>>

>dates.

>

>>shiavo

>>

>>>case.

>>>

>>>> I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in

>>>>

>the

>

>>>>news and its always very informative.

>>>>

>>>>I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

>>>>debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents

>>>>

>and

>

>>the

>>

>>>>husband and the parents are obviously attached to the

>>>>

>daughter,

>

>>but

>>

>>>>its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved

>>>>

>on

>

>>>>with another woman and children, and who benefits financially

>>>>

>by

>

>>her

>>

>>>>death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a

>>>>

>>live

>>

>>>>in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

>>>>

>>>>The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper

>>>>

>>care

>>

>>>>that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

>>>>medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say

>>>>

>>she is

>>

>>>>very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

>>>>

>>>>The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and

>>>>

>>that

>>

>>>>all that can be done for her has been done.

>>>>

>>>>Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious

>>>>

>>dispute.

>>

>>>>And if the parents are correct there may be very serious

>>>>

>concerns

>

>>>>about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to

>>>>

>any

>

>>>>conclusions.

>>>>

>>>>So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts,

>>>>

>but

>

>>>>could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963.

>>>>

>That

>

>>was

>>

>>>>vague so I looked at a prasna.

>>>>

>>>>heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini,

>>>>

>Moon

>

>>0

>>

>>>>Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes

>>>>

>=

>

>>rahu

>>

>>>>28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius,

>>>>

>>Venus

>>

>>>>8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

>>>>

>>>>So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded

>>>>

>that

>

>>for

>>

>>>>various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with

>>>>

>Sun

>

>>>>opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning,

>>>>

>>both had

>>

>>>>this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

>>>>Scorpio.

>>>>

>>>>The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st

>>>>

>>December,

>>

>>>>had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus

>>>>

>Conjunct

>

>>>>Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most

>>>>

>likely.

>

>>By

>>

>>>>chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather

>>>>

>than

>

>>2nd.

>>

>>>>I had done about three internet searches to get this much

>>>>information, but I did another variation and this time I

>>>>

>actually

>

>>>>found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the

>>>>

>>correctness

>>

>>>>of the prasna in this case.

>>>>

>>>>You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that

>>>>

>>differ.

>>

>>>>In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury

>>>>

>ruled

>

>>sign

>>

>>>>and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date

>>>>

>of

>

>>>>birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and

>>>>

>>Venus. So

>>

>>>>theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

>>>>

>>>>Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna

>>>>

>ascendant

>

>>is

>>

>>>>Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

>>>>

>>>>If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa,

>>>>

>>Saturn

>>

>>>>Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

>>>>Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

>>>>possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to

>>>>

>Ketu

>

>>till

>>

>>>>late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

>>>>

>>>>Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

>>>>seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the

>>>>

>9th

>

>>house

>>

>>>>of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the

>>>>

>>Sun and

>>

>>>>Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will

>>>>

>>continue to

>>

>>>>prevail legally.

>>>>

>

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>

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March 25, 2005

Dear Birgit,

I agree with Taurus ascendent. The combust ascendent lord

in transit has put her life in jeopardy. According to that she went in coma

in mercury-mercury period. Now when her ketu is beginning it will bring

sudden and cruel changes.

Ashutosh.

-

blue_starfish202 <blue_starfish202

Friday, March 25, 2005 16:04

Re: Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth dates. shiavo

case.

>

> Dear Dawn

>

> Further to your prasna: Taurus rising would be very striking in

> Schiavo's chart: Moon and Rahu in 2nd/Gemini versus Mercury, Venus,

> Mars and Ketu in 8th/Sagittarius would show perfectly her eating

> disorder "bulimia nervosa" that is said to have finally led to her

> cardiac arrest in 1990!

>

> Regards

> Birgit

>

> valist, "blue_starfish202"

> <blue_starfish202> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Dawn

> >

> > I think you prasna is very informative. I have also thought of her

> > birth time - details of her life can be found here:

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo

> >

> > A birth-time of 10.00 would also fit rather well, I think. She

> fell

> > into coma on 25 February 1990. If we take 10.00 h as birth-time

> > transit Mars and Saturn would have been at her Ascendant. Today

> > transit Saturn would be at the cusp of 7th house.

> >

> > She would have Sagittarius rising with Mercury, Venus, Mars and

> Ketu

> > in 1 and Moon/Rahu in 7. Saturn and Mercury would be marakas. In

> Feb

> > 1990 she would have been in Saturn Rahu Mercury Dasha and now in

> > Saturn Rahu Ketu.

> >

> > Her lagna would be in Purva Ashada that is ruled by Venus which

> may

> > point to your prasna lagna in Taurus.

> >

> > This time would also make sense when using some techniques of

> > western astrology.

> >

> > What do you think?

> >

> > Best regards

> > Birgit

> >

> > > -

> > > Dawn <astrodawnau>

> > > <valist>

> > > Friday, March 25, 2005 07:41

> > > Using Prasna for investigating unknown birth

> dates.

> > shiavo

> > > case.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I tend to use prasna fairly frequently when viewing those in

> the

> > > > news and its always very informative.

> > > >

> > > > I am just sharing a current example, and not weighing in on the

> > > > debate in this case. Theres a big fight between the parents

> and

> > the

> > > > husband and the parents are obviously attached to the

> daughter,

> > but

> > > > its hard to say what the motives of a man whos obviously moved

> on

> > > > with another woman and children, and who benefits financially

> by

> > her

> > > > death are. Hes nto divorced her officially, but has taken on a

> > live

> > > > in wife, and kept the legal ties for some reason.

> > > >

> > > > The parents say shes not brain dead and has been denied proper

> > care

> > > > that would demonstrate that, that he bashed her and has denied

> > > > medical care, and is doing this out of self interest. They say

> > she is

> > > > very alert and everything hes said is just to decieve.

> > > >

> > > > The husband says shes brain dead and its proven medically and

> > that

> > > > all that can be done for her has been done.

> > > >

> > > > Of course from these facts, we know theres a very serious

> > dispute.

> > > > And if the parents are correct there may be very serious

> concerns

> > > > about the husbands conduct in all this. So one cannot jump to

> any

> > > > conclusions.

> > > >

> > > > So in this case I thought I would take a look at the charts,

> but

> > > > could only find out Terri Shiavo was born in December 1963.

> That

> > was

> > > > vague so I looked at a prasna.

> > > >

> > > > heres the prasna positions. Asc 4 Taurus, Saturn 24 Gemini,

> Moon

> > 0

> > > > Virgo, Jupiter 21 Virgo, Ketu 0 Libra (mean nodes) true nodes

> =

> > rahu

> > > > 28 pisces, Pluto Sa, Mars 9 Cap, Neptune cap, Uranus aquarius,

> > Venus

> > > > 8 pisces, Sun 10 pisces, mercuryR 18 pisces.

> > > >

> > > > So I noticed the Sun and Moon in the prasna. And concluded

> that

> > for

> > > > various reasons that I would go with looking at a chart with

> Sun

> > > > opposition Moon, the end of december 1963 and the beginning,

> > both had

> > > > this. Only Sun was not quite opposite on the 2nd-3rd, being in

> > > > Scorpio.

> > > >

> > > > The 2nd - 3rd December had Venus in Sagittarius, the 31st

> > December,

> > > > had Venus in Capricorn. Considering the prasna had Venus

> Conjunct

> > > > Sun, I concluded the early part of the month looked most

> likely.

> > By

> > > > chance I had just opened up a chart for 3rd december rather

> than

> > 2nd.

> > > >

> > > > I had done about three internet searches to get this much

> > > > information, but I did another variation and this time I

> actually

> > > > found the date 3rd december 1963, which to me proved the

> > correctness

> > > > of the prasna in this case.

> > > >

> > > > You get SOME identical aspects in the prasna, and some that

> > differ.

> > > > In this case Prasna had moon conjunct a node, in a mercury

> ruled

> > sign

> > > > and on a full moon opposite Mercury Venus and Sun. On the date

> of

> > > > birth we see Moon in a mercury sign, opposite Mercury and

> > Venus. So

> > > > theres some strong links with the prasna chart.

> > > >

> > > > Of course I do not have a time as yet, and the Prasna

> ascendant

> > is

> > > > Taurus, and the prasna Dasa is Sun, Rahu, Ketu.

> > > >

> > > > If shes born around 4.00pm that would put her in Mercury Dasa,

> > Saturn

> > > > Sub, and give a taurus ascendant. Since Sun in the prasna is in

> > > > Saturns Nakshatra thats a possibility. There may be other

> > > > possibilities. But the dasa does not change from Mercury to

> Ketu

> > till

> > > > late at night and the ascendants are around leo then.

> > > >

> > > > Mercury is retrograding over TS's natal Retrograde Jupiter. The

> > > > seventh lord of the husband in the prasna is exalted in the

> 9th

> > house

> > > > of legalities. The rulers of the 6th and 8th and conjunct the

> > Sun and

> > > > Moon. From this I would think it likely the husband will

> > continue to

> > > > prevail legally.

>

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