Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Respected and learned Gurujis I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly in my married life. I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours in the afternoon. If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not sure if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will work and whether it is worth my doing this. Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and career. Thanks Help Needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 is it possible to say which suburn of Mumbai u were born / or name the full address of hospital in order to work out proper LAT /LON - regards pdk naengineer <naengineer wrote: Respected and learned Gurujis I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly in my married life. I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours in the afternoon. If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not sure if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will work and whether it is worth my doing this. Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and career. Thanks Help Needed Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Dear Respected Lady, I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th house (affairs going on for long). While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of marriage that signifies luck with marriage. Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and career should improve after 25th May'05. In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should help in restoration of marriage. The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in restoration of marriage. Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with SATURN). Hope the above is fine. Best regards, Prakash Kandpal - naengineer <naengineer valist Urgent Help Needed Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > in > my married life. > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > in > the afternoon. > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > sure > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > work > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > career. > > Thanks > Help Needed > > > > > Links > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 valist, "naengineer" <naengineer> wrote: > ms. naengineer i kindly submit that as you transition into this new phase of life that emotional life will come to the fore.........a time to catch up with yourself in this regard....... Shiva will guide you..........................................yes? sincerely, david ps. are you familliar with shree rajneesh? he has many practical teachings concerning the emotional body(i am thinking in paticular of his dynamic meditations) pss. i will humbly predict a happy increase in your daily sadhana ( i see hatha yoga and..?) > > Respected and learned Gurujis > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > in > my married life. > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > in > the afternoon. > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > sure > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > work > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > career. > > Thanks > Help Needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Thank you for your reply. Can you please advise me from which day I should start fasting on Saturdays and what to do for donation. Do I have to eat nothing at all or just take liquids/fruits and from what time to what time of the day. valist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > Dear Respected Lady, > > I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th house (affairs going on for long). > > While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. > > Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). > > Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of marriage that signifies luck with marriage. > > Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and career should improve after 25th May'05. > > In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should help in restoration of marriage. > > The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in restoration of marriage. > > Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with SATURN). > > Hope the above is fine. > > Best regards, > Prakash Kandpal > > - > naengineer <naengineer> > valist > Urgent Help Needed > Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > > in > > my married life. > > > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > > in > > the afternoon. > > > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > > sure > > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > > work > > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > > career. > > > > Thanks > > Help Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > -- > _________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 I was born at Parsi General Hospital which is in Bombay itself (no suburb)on Bomanji Petit Street, Bombay 400 036. valist, pdk kotak <ganeshji101> wrote: > is it possible to say which suburn of Mumbai u were born / or name the full address of hospital > in order to work out proper LAT /LON - regards > pdk > naengineer <naengineer> wrote: > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > in > my married life. > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > in > the afternoon. > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > sure > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > work > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > career. > > Thanks > Help Needed > > > > > Links > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Dear Respected Sir: Thank you again for your advice and understanding of my chart. I am providing the date and time of birth of my husband and friend: My husband was born on 23 April 1955 at Mumbai, India at 8.04 a.m. and my friend on 31 May 1960 at Mumbai, India at 9.30 a.m. With these two dates can you tell me again whether my marriage will be restored and we will be happy together or do you see me with my friend in the long run, my friend has a lot of health problems and is worried about his health and life constantly and I do not want to break up my marriage if I can be happy with my husband or if my friend is not faithful or any other reasons as I do not want to be alone if something happens to him. When do you see me reconciling with my husband or leading a normal life with one person only. Thank you. valist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > Dear Respected Lady, > > I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th house (affairs going on for long). > > While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. > > Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). > > Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of marriage that signifies luck with marriage. > > Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and career should improve after 25th May'05. > > In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should help in restoration of marriage. > > The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in restoration of marriage. > > Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with SATURN). > > Hope the above is fine. > > Best regards, > Prakash Kandpal > > - > naengineer <naengineer> > valist > Urgent Help Needed > Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > > in > > my married life. > > > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > > in > > the afternoon. > > > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > > sure > > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > > work > > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > > career. > > > > Thanks > > Help Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > -- > _________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Dear lady in dilemma, Your husband's horoscope is better than your friend's as far as devotion and affection is concerned. It is your excess of desires and unfaithfulness which is driving you towards this end. Mars period has started for you. I see more such rash and foolish decisions on your part. This new extra-marital affair is nor the first for you and neither the last. In fact, I pity your husband that he had to bear with you all these years. Give him a break and release him from his plight. You are fickle-minded enough to go back to your husband if everything is not supposed to go smoothly because you are afraid to be alone It seems that you like using people for your own benefits and their emotions don't matter to you. Please don't search for sympathy for your cowardice in this group of helpful astrologers. Vatsyayana. ---- naengineer 04/28/05 22:32:32 valist Re: Urgent Help Needed Dear Respected Sir: Thank you again for your advice and understanding of my chart. I am providing the date and time of birth of my husband and friend: My husband was born on 23 April 1955 at Mumbai, India at 8.04 a.m. and my friend on 31 May 1960 at Mumbai, India at 9.30 a.m. With these two dates can you tell me again whether my marriage will be restored and we will be happy together or do you see me with my friend in the long run, my friend has a lot of health problems and is worried about his health and life constantly and I do not want to break up my marriage if I can be happy with my husband or if my friend is not faithful or any other reasons as I do not want to be alone if something happens to him. When do you see me reconciling with my husband or leading a normal life with one person only. Thank you. valist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > Dear Respected Lady, > > I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th house (affairs going on for long). > > While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. > > Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). > > Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of marriage that signifies luck with marriage. > > Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and career should improve after 25th May'05. > > In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should help in restoration of marriage. > > The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in restoration of marriage. > > Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with SATURN). > > Hope the above is fine. > > Best regards, > Prakash Kandpal > > - > naengineer <naengineer> > valist > Urgent Help Needed > Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life particularly > > in > > my married life. > > > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 hours > > in > > the afternoon. > > > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with guidance > > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in my > > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am not > > sure > > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > > work > > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > > career. > > > > Thanks > > Help Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > -- > _________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 -- - In valist, "Vatsyayana" <kundli@g...> wrote: > Vatsyayana, kindly refrain from using this discussion group to profligate your own ill considered and obviously mysoginistic tendencies.......unless you can appreciate your own purantanical conditioning in some measure........there is no hope for wise and productive counsel...........you have shamed us again (all astologers) with your hate filled scaremongering........you owe this woman an apology as most at this site would concur. sincerely, david Dear lady in dilemma, > Your husband's horoscope is better > than your friend's as far as devotion and affection is concerned. It is your > excess of desires and unfaithfulness which is driving you towards this end. > Mars period has started for you. I see more such rash and foolish decisions > on your part. This new extra-marital affair is nor the first for you and > neither the last. In fact, I pity your husband that he had to bear with you > all these years. Give him a break and release him from his plight. > You are fickle-minded enough to go back to your husband if > everything is not supposed to go smoothly because you are afraid to be alone > It seems that you like using people for your own benefits and their > emotions don't matter to you. > Please don't search for sympathy for your cowardice in this group > of helpful astrologers. > > Vatsyayana. > > > > > ---- > > naengineer > 04/28/05 22:32:32 > valist > Re: Urgent Help Needed > > Dear Respected Sir: > Thank you again for your advice and understanding of my chart. I am > providing the date and time of birth of my husband and friend: > My husband was born on 23 April 1955 at Mumbai, India at 8.04 a.m. > > and my friend on 31 May 1960 at Mumbai, India at 9.30 a.m. > > With these two dates can you tell me again whether my marriage will > be restored and we will be happy together or do you see me with my > friend in the long run, my friend has a lot of health problems and > is worried about his health and life constantly and I do not want to > break up my marriage if I can be happy with my husband or if my > friend is not faithful or any other reasons as I do not want to be > alone if something happens to him. > > When do you see me reconciling with my husband or leading a normal > life with one person only. > > Thank you. > > valist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > > Dear Respected Lady, > > > > I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you > have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to > satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars > is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also > debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him > being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of > debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship > and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th > house (affairs going on for long). > > > > While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - > it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn > that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the > mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha > karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. > > > > Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal > position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given > you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord > was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which > signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). > > > > Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of > marriage that signifies luck with marriage. > > > > Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon > therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in > 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 > years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and > career should improve after 25th May'05. > > > > In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in > earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should > help in restoration of marriage. > > > > The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is > the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th > (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as > well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under > Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in > restoration of marriage. > > > > Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - > Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has > afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness > in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the > career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may > increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th > from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and > donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with > SATURN). > > > > Hope the above is fine. > > > > Best regards, > > Prakash Kandpal > > > > - > > naengineer <naengineer> > > valist > > Urgent Help Needed > > Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > > > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life > particularly > > > in > > > my married life. > > > > > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 > hours > > > in > > > the afternoon. > > > > > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with > guidance > > > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in > my > > > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > > > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am > not > > > sure > > > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > > > work > > > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > > > > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > > > career. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Help Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > > > -- > > _________ > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > > > Links > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the strict and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some of them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human life was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, SEX. So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules out dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one does not try to dominate the other. I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't good. If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or irreligious views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior to marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's are facing in marriage. I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good astrologers who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart and Love, Astrology and Attraction. Ree MacQuoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Marriage is another name for sacrifice. A marriage will be successful if both parties learn to sacrifice valist [valist]On Behalf Of Das Goravani Friday, April 29, 2005 3:16 PM valist Re: Urgent Help Needed Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the strict and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some of them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human life was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, SEX. So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules out dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one does not try to dominate the other. I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't good. If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or irreligious views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior to marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's are facing in marriage. I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good astrologers who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart and Love, Astrology and Attraction. Ree MacQuoid Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2005 Report Share Posted April 29, 2005 Dear Sir, May I add.?Kama and Krodha are given by God,I strongly believe.If it is true that sex should be eschewed, why then God created male and female with a little amount of pleasure in their coming togather.?In the case of Humans it is both physical and more so Psychological.and emotional. There are two purposes of marriage. To propogate ones own kind or species.The second one is to live togather to nurture kids.and live as a family.For the continuance of the bond between husband and wife and family.etc.Nature has provided the biological and Psychological apparatus and setup of sex and made it an incessant feature of human life at least upto a certain age ,in the case of each individual..Why should anyone live without sex which is a gift of Nature.?Of course we should have limitations to enjoy our freedom meaningfully and fully.Therefore we have framed Laws unto ourselves.Such Laws may vary from place to place, country to country etc.to cater to the convenience of identifiable groups of humans. Coming to sages, it is their calim that one can be without sex and also lead a perfect and normal life.One saint of a high order says,"A saint is one who has perfect control over the bodyor that he is a master of the body.".It is also believed that if the mind is controlled in the manner in which it ought to be kept under control,suprme knowledge comes to him.who practices it."In a nut shell ,it is believed that such a person becomes all knowing.?One who has practiced alone will know the Truth of it all. Regards, jagannathan. Deepa Sewaney <eci wrote: Marriage is another name for sacrifice. A marriage will be successful if both parties learn to sacrifice valist [valist]On Behalf Of Das Goravani Friday, April 29, 2005 3:16 PM valist Re: Urgent Help Needed Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the strict and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some of them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human life was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, SEX. So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules out dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one does not try to dominate the other. I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't good. If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or irreligious views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior to marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's are facing in marriage. I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good astrologers who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart and Love, Astrology and Attraction. Ree MacQuoid Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Das Goravani wrote : > Their own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, > rules out dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. *Real* Brahmins do not totally rule out divorce, or dating. Yes a brahmin advices against extra marital sex. Why a brahmin. Any respectable gentleman or gentle lady or a gentle astrologer anywhere in the world will also advice against extra marital sex. Is it not? The first and foremost requisite for arranged marriage or dated marriage or chart marriage is mutual attraction. "Mutual Attraction" is the top in the list. If this is OK then we can check all other things. Even if all other matters, for example astrological compatibility etc,. is OK a marriage should not be recommended either by parents, astrogers, brahmins or any welwishers if the boy and girl do not have "mutual attraction". Warm Regards, Prasad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2005 Report Share Posted May 1, 2005 Dear Shri Goravani Das ji, I dont know by what name I should call you...it seems that you were earlier more fascinated by your so called "Indian Spiritual Name" Goravani Das and now going back to your original name. Are you at fag end of some dasa (major period) or you have already entered one? Now coming back to your opinion on Indian culture I have the following to say: I dont really know if your thoughts are correct or need some correction but according to my limited understanding "marriages are supposed to be heavenly deals in India" - this shows our values to the family or the bond called marriage. I dont find anything modern or old fashioned in this....I still see lot many Europeans or Americans who have the same kind of marital sanctity or bond in their lives. My perception of calling a culture or group of people "old fashioned" or "modern" may be different than yours. If you analyse the respective charts of a husband and wife in India, you can find lot many similarities in the charts and the same goes in the case of children. My wife has nodes in debilitation just as I have; she has exchange between Saturn (Gemini) and Mercury (Aquarius) just as I have (Saturn in Gemini & Mercury in Capricorn), She has Moon in Taurus ascendant with South Node and I have Cancer ascendant without any planet (but Moon's qualities are there in both of us). We both got married when we were under the effects of sadesaati. What more do I say that my daughter is born with exalted nodes (natal chart, D-9 chart & D-10 charts)....Saturn in Gemini - So we can see some connection, some similar qualities between the "family" or the generations that keep on going. So, astrologically we have some links of past lives and that will go in future as well. On the other side, yes we have this atttitude to cover "sexuality" or such things but do we not perceive that our sages/saints (or previous generations) had already experienced the ill effects of excessiveness of this aspect in human life.....that the brahmins or the learned dont really feel like talking on this subject at the places of divine sanctity. These are carnel desires which were made to keep the family chain going but excess desires lead to lust and then dreadful happenings like rape etc. Can you imagine that these guys (brahmins) dont even want to talk about it because it will create that "thought" which will lead them to lust. Is it not commendable for those god fearing mortals to eliminate such carnel thoughts? This whole thing is creation of materialism - in such a scenario "sex" leads to more "sex" and more lust and not elimination of lust or desires to that effect. Can you imagine that there are 8 types of marriages listed in our "holy books". Can you imagine? Now just tell me 4-5 marriage types in today's world.... How can we become modern if we dont have more than 8 marriages listed today? This you can find in "Shrimada Bhagwatam". Yes, people here want to talk about it to become modern but I pity such people who are demolishing themselves by doing so...I think they will have to come for many more lives in different forms to achieve salvation. The real love is "love to God' and that manifests only when you have controlled such carnel desires relating to the sense of touch. I saw another link over last one and half year of nodal influence on Aries and Libra - the quest for self-search increased (to open against all odds) and the marriage part also got influenced both positively and also negatively. Divorces increased and at the same time extra marital affairs also increased...Are not nodes teaching us the way to live? This trend will continue for sometime since nodes are here to stay in the 6th and 12th house for further one and half years that will lead to destruction to marriages around the globe, in general. Look forward to have your views. Regards, Prakash Kandpal - "Das Goravani" <> "valist" <valist> Re: Urgent Help Needed Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:16:25 -0700 > > > > Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. > > India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the strict > and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some of > them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE > within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human life > was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, > SEX. > > So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more > westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their > own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules out > dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. > > This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We > can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one does > not try to dominate the other. > > I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't good. > If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or irreligious > views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered > humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. > > With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to > pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. > We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. > I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior to > marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's > are facing in marriage. > > I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good astrologers > who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck > marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better > here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and > love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart and > Love, Astrology and Attraction. > > > > > Ree MacQuoid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 Dear Sir, Every word that you have uttered pertaining to marriage and thinking of our Rishis deserves to be weighed with gold please. Regards, jagannathan. Prakash Kandpal <Pck wrote: Dear Shri Goravani Das ji, I dont know by what name I should call you...it seems that you were earlier more fascinated by your so called "Indian Spiritual Name" Goravani Das and now going back to your original name. Are you at fag end of some dasa (major period) or you have already entered one? Now coming back to your opinion on Indian culture I have the following to say: I dont really know if your thoughts are correct or need some correction but according to my limited understanding "marriages are supposed to be heavenly deals in India" - this shows our values to the family or the bond called marriage. I dont find anything modern or old fashioned in this....I still see lot many Europeans or Americans who have the same kind of marital sanctity or bond in their lives. My perception of calling a culture or group of people "old fashioned" or "modern" may be different than yours. If you analyse the respective charts of a husband and wife in India, you can find lot many similarities in the charts and the same goes in the case of children. My wife has nodes in debilitation just as I have; she has exchange between Saturn (Gemini) and Mercury (Aquarius) just as I have (Saturn in Gemini & Mercury in Capricorn), She has Moon in Taurus ascendant with South Node and I have Cancer ascendant without any planet (but Moon's qualities are there in both of us). We both got married when we were under the effects of sadesaati. What more do I say that my daughter is born with exalted nodes (natal chart, D-9 chart & D-10 charts)....Saturn in Gemini - So we can see some connection, some similar qualities between the "family" or the generations that keep on going. So, astrologically we have some links of past lives and that will go in future as well. On the other side, yes we have this atttitude to cover "sexuality" or such things but do we not perceive that our sages/saints (or previous generations) had already experienced the ill effects of excessiveness of this aspect in human life.....that the brahmins or the learned dont really feel like talking on this subject at the places of divine sanctity. These are carnel desires which were made to keep the family chain going but excess desires lead to lust and then dreadful happenings like rape etc. Can you imagine that these guys (brahmins) dont even want to talk about it because it will create that "thought" which will lead them to lust. Is it not commendable for those god fearing mortals to eliminate such carnel thoughts? This whole thing is creation of materialism - in such a scenario "sex" leads to more "sex" and more lust and not elimination of lust or desires to that effect. Can you imagine that there are 8 types of marriages listed in our "holy books". Can you imagine? Now just tell me 4-5 marriage types in today's world.... How can we become modern if we dont have more than 8 marriages listed today? This you can find in "Shrimada Bhagwatam". Yes, people here want to talk about it to become modern but I pity such people who are demolishing themselves by doing so...I think they will have to come for many more lives in different forms to achieve salvation. The real love is "love to God' and that manifests only when you have controlled such carnel desires relating to the sense of touch. I saw another link over last one and half year of nodal influence on Aries and Libra - the quest for self-search increased (to open against all odds) and the marriage part also got influenced both positively and also negatively. Divorces increased and at the same time extra marital affairs also increased...Are not nodes teaching us the way to live? This trend will continue for sometime since nodes are here to stay in the 6th and 12th house for further one and half years that will lead to destruction to marriages around the globe, in general. Look forward to have your views. Regards, Prakash Kandpal - "Das Goravani" "valist" Re: Urgent Help Needed Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:16:25 -0700 > > > > Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. > > India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the strict > and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some of > them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE > within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human life > was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, > SEX. > > So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more > westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their > own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules out > dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. > > This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We > can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one does > not try to dominate the other. > > I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't good. > If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or irreligious > views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered > humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. > > With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to > pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. > We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. > I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior to > marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's > are facing in marriage. > > I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good astrologers > who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck > marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better > here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and > love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart and > Love, Astrology and Attraction. > > > > > Ree MacQuoid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 -- _________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm Jagannathan . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2005 Report Share Posted May 2, 2005 According to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, ".......marriage may be defined either as the act, ceremony or process by which the legal relationship of husband and wife is constituted; or as a physical, legal and moral union between men and women in complete community of life for the establishment of family" "Matrimony or marriage of two souls, one in female form and the other in male form, is established mainly according to Vedic injunction, for the purpose of 'dharma prajasampatya rtham' for the realisation of dharma, progeny and prosperity, (or prosperity or plentitude of these two) i.e. for the progress and happiness of dharma and progeny."(M. Ramakrishna Bhat. Essentials of Horary Astrology, page 117.) Marriage is viewed by sociologists as a social institution. "Thus according to Dr. Friedrichs marriage is a 'union of persons of different sex acknowledged and privilege by the order of law, either towards sex-intercourse and with a view to leading a joint household or towards exclusive sex-intercourse'."(Dr. Chanchala Kumar Chatterjee, Definition of Marriage, page 21.). - "kapisthalam jagannathan" <jagannathankr <valist> Sunday, May 01, 2005 11:11 PM Re: Urgent Help Needed > Dear Sir, > Every word that you have uttered pertaining to marriage and thinking of > our Rishis deserves to be weighed with gold please. > Regards, > jagannathan. > > Prakash Kandpal <Pck wrote: > Dear Shri Goravani Das ji, > > I dont know by what name I should call you...it seems that you were > earlier more fascinated by your so called "Indian Spiritual Name" Goravani > Das and now going back to your original name. > > Are you at fag end of some dasa (major period) or you have already entered > one? > > Now coming back to your opinion on Indian culture I have the following to > say: > > I dont really know if your thoughts are correct or need some correction > but according to my limited understanding "marriages are supposed to be > heavenly deals in India" - this shows our values to the family or the bond > called marriage. I dont find anything modern or old fashioned in this....I > still see lot many Europeans or Americans who have the same kind of > marital sanctity or bond in their lives. My perception of calling a > culture or group of people "old fashioned" or "modern" may be different > than yours. If you analyse the respective charts of a husband and wife in > India, you can find lot many similarities in the charts and the same goes > in the case of children. > > My wife has nodes in debilitation just as I have; she has exchange between > Saturn (Gemini) and Mercury (Aquarius) just as I have (Saturn in Gemini & > Mercury in Capricorn), She has Moon in Taurus ascendant with South Node > and I have Cancer ascendant without any planet (but Moon's qualities are > there in both of us). We both got married when we were under the effects > of sadesaati. What more do I say that my daughter is born with exalted > nodes (natal chart, D-9 chart & D-10 charts)....Saturn in Gemini - So we > can see some connection, some similar qualities between the "family" or > the generations that keep on going. So, astrologically we have some links > of past lives and that will go in future as well. > > On the other side, yes we have this atttitude to cover "sexuality" or such > things but do we not perceive that our sages/saints (or previous > generations) had already experienced the ill effects of excessiveness of > this aspect in human life.....that the brahmins or the learned dont really > feel like talking on this subject at the places of divine sanctity. These > are carnel desires which were made to keep the family chain going but > excess desires lead to lust and then dreadful happenings like rape etc. > Can you imagine that these guys (brahmins) dont even want to talk about it > because it will create that "thought" which will lead them to lust. Is it > not commendable for those god fearing mortals to eliminate such carnel > thoughts? > > This whole thing is creation of materialism - in such a scenario "sex" > leads to more "sex" and more lust and not elimination of lust or desires > to that effect. Can you imagine that there are 8 types of marriages listed > in our "holy books". Can you imagine? Now just tell me 4-5 marriage types > in today's world.... How can we become modern if we dont have more than 8 > marriages listed today? This you can find in "Shrimada Bhagwatam". > > Yes, people here want to talk about it to become modern but I pity such > people who are demolishing themselves by doing so...I think they will have > to come for many more lives in different forms to achieve salvation. > > The real love is "love to God' and that manifests only when you have > controlled such carnel desires relating to the sense of touch. > > I saw another link over last one and half year of nodal influence on Aries > and Libra - the quest for self-search increased (to open against all odds) > and the marriage part also got influenced both positively and also > negatively. Divorces increased and at the same time extra marital affairs > also increased...Are not nodes teaching us the way to live? This trend > will continue for sometime since nodes are here to stay in the 6th and > 12th house for further one and half years that will lead to destruction to > marriages around the globe, in general. > > Look forward to have your views. > > Regards, > Prakash Kandpal > > - > "Das Goravani" > "valist" > Re: Urgent Help Needed > Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:16:25 -0700 > >> >> >> >> Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in these times. >> >> India was, even in recent decades, very much still dominated by the >> strict >> and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. I trained under some >> of >> them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING about sex or MARRIAGE >> within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, as he figured human >> life >> was for another purpose other than what the animals are good at, namely, >> SEX. >> >> So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these days, if they are more >> westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern mating matters. Their >> own brahmin class will often offer advice which rules out divorce, rules >> out >> dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. >> >> This we WILL face here on this list. We can have both sides speaking. We >> can have the brahmins of old, and the modern westerners, so long as one >> does >> not try to dominate the other. >> >> I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying to dominate isn't >> good. >> If someone trys to push and push and push their own religious or >> irreligious >> views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. But if offered >> humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. >> >> With all the failings of humans, how can we trust our MARRIAGES to >> pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even our charts. We cannot. >> We have to have love marriage on top of both of those. That's my feeling. >> I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date the woman AT ALL prior >> to >> marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know what most Indian's >> are facing in marriage. >> >> I don't at this late date in humanity, that we really have good >> astrologers >> who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity all the unhappy stuck >> marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we don't do much better >> here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe in both- chart and >> love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus AND Mercury, Chart >> and >> Love, Astrology and Attraction. >> >> >> >> >> Ree MacQuoid >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Links >> >> >> >> > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > -- > _________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Jagannathan . > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 David, I am sending this delayed reply to your impulsive outburst. It is good sign that you have empathy for all. But, an astrologer is not an advocate of every person approaching him. He is neither a psychologist who is eager to shows his clients that all their problems need understanding however vile they may be. Western world has lost the meaning of institutions like marriage and family. Instant gratification and selfish thought is considered normal there. But, one fact is forgotten, a person who is unfaithful to one is unfaithful to all. I don't hesitate in calling a spade a spade. For an astrologer, a simple glance at any horoscope is enough to determine the basic character of the native. If I can see that the native is at fault and is incorrigible then it is no use in further encouraging him. Why do you think other active astrologers in the group did not reply to the concerned lady's post. All she thinks of herself and not about her husband or her lover. Study the horoscopes of these two (husband & friend) also and read her mails word by word. Then find a fitting reply. As far as my puritanical conditioning is concerned, for your information, I am a practising astrologer with sexual relations as my main subject of study. I am also the moderator of the sexual_astrology" and have spent years researching marriage, love and sex related problems. You should increase your knowledge of astrology and be ready to face the truth in the face. World is full of very strange people with equally strange intentions. An astrologer should not become a garbage bin for emotional junk coming from uncaring and selfish people. There are enough genuinely needy men and women who deserve the precious time and attention of good astrologers. Vatsyayana. ---- dareid79 04/29/05 20:19:03 valist Re: Urgent Help Needed -- - In valist, "Vatsyayana" <kundli@g...> wrote: > Vatsyayana, kindly refrain from using this discussion group to profligate your own ill considered and obviously mysoginistic tendencies.......unless you can appreciate your own purantanical conditioning in some measure........there is no hope for wise and productive counsel...........you have shamed us again (all astologers) with your hate filled scaremongering........you owe this woman an apology as most at this site would concur. sincerely, david Dear lady in dilemma, > Your husband's horoscope is better > than your friend's as far as devotion and affection is concerned. It is your > excess of desires and unfaithfulness which is driving you towards this end > Mars period has started for you. I see more such rash and foolish decisions > on your part. This new extra-marital affair is nor the first for you and > neither the last. In fact, I pity your husband that he had to bear with you > all these years. Give him a break and release him from his plight. > You are fickle-minded enough to go back to your husband if > everything is not supposed to go smoothly because you are afraid to be alone > It seems that you like using people for your own benefits and their > emotions don't matter to you. > Please don't search for sympathy for your cowardice in this group > of helpful astrologers. > > Vatsyayana. > > > > > ---- > > naengineer > 04/28/05 22:32:32 > valist > Re: Urgent Help Needed > > Dear Respected Sir: > Thank you again for your advice and understanding of my chart. I am > providing the date and time of birth of my husband and friend: > My husband was born on 23 April 1955 at Mumbai, India at 8.04 a.m. > > and my friend on 31 May 1960 at Mumbai, India at 9.30 a.m. > > With these two dates can you tell me again whether my marriage will > be restored and we will be happy together or do you see me with my > friend in the long run, my friend has a lot of health problems and > is worried about his health and life constantly and I do not want to > break up my marriage if I can be happy with my husband or if my > friend is not faithful or any other reasons as I do not want to be > alone if something happens to him. > > When do you see me reconciling with my husband or leading a normal > life with one person only. > > Thank you. > > valist, "Prakash Kandpal" <Pck@c...> wrote: > > Dear Respected Lady, > > > > I am positive that your marriage will be restored. The friend you > have right now will not be faithful to you though he is able to > satisfy your emotive needs. The reason of stating this is that Mars > is debilitated in 11th house and its dispositor Moon is also > debilitated. Though they have exchange of houses yet I dont see him > being faithful in the longer run and see more effects of > debilitation. Mars+Venus together create more than one relationship > and being in the 11th house they have positive aspect on the 5th > house (affairs going on for long). > > > > While Jupiter (7th lord) was transiting through 12th house in Leo - > it was continuously under the malefic aspect of Rahu and Saturn > that should have also lead to problems in marital life. In the > mahadasa of debilitated Moon the mind would have gone into neecha > karma and at the end of it - it has given a rethink. > > > > Ketu earlier was transiting over to the 8th house from its natal > position (from the house of marriage i.e. 7th house) which had given > you enough problems before 22nd February'05. Jupiter, the 7th lord > was transiting to the 12th house at that point of time which > signifies enemity with the partner (being in 6th from 7th house). > > > > Now Jupiter+Ketu has a positive aspect on the 7th house of > marriage that signifies luck with marriage. > > > > Saturn (lord of 6th house) is currently transiting 8th from Moon > therefore health problems (more mental problems) and since it is in > 10th house (over sun) right now (and was there for last 2 and 1/2 > years) therefore sluggishness in career has been there. Health and > career should improve after 25th May'05. > > > > In any case your Moon mahadasa will end around the same time in > earlier part of May that should end the current affair and should > help in restoration of marriage. > > > > The reason of this being that Mars mahadasa will commence which is > the 2nd and 9th lord from the house of marriage and posited in 5th > (auspicious for marriage thing) and it is friendly to Jupiter as > well. From the Moon also the 7th lord occupies 9th house under > Jupiter's benefic influence. Both these positives should help in > restoration of marriage. > > > > Right now the relations with boss may not have been very good - > Mercury is debilitated in transit and also since Saturn has > afflicted the 10th house in transit that should create sluggishness > in career. Once Saturn moves to the natal 11th house then the > career aspect will be better. The chances of health-problems may > increase during that time since Saturn will be transiting to 6th > from 6th house in an enemy's sign. Fasting on Saturdays and and > donating on Saturdays will be helpful (articles associated with > SATURN). > > > > Hope the above is fine. > > > > Best regards, > > Prakash Kandpal > > > > - > > naengineer <naengineer> > > valist > > Urgent Help Needed > > Wed, 27 Apr 2005 15:21:41 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected and learned Gurujis > > > I need help in order to sort out some issues in my life > particularly > > > in > > > my married life. > > > > > > I am a female born in Mumbai, India on June 20, 1959 at 13:14 > hours > > > in > > > the afternoon. > > > > > > If someone can please read my birth chart and assist me with > guidance > > > and advice I would appreciate it as there is a lot of strain in > my > > > marriage. I am separated from my husband for over a year and was > > > planning to divorce and be with someone else but nowadays I am > not > > > sure > > > if I am doing the right thing and if the second relationship will > > > work > > > and whether it is worth my doing this. > > > > > > Can someone please assist and also guide me about my health and > > > career. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Help Needed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PHONE:+91-98105-27196 > > > > -- > > _________ > > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > > > > > Links > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 This is in reference to Prakash Kandpal 's readings of the lady s horoscope.. The 7 th house is greatly afflicted as 7 th house in Rahu-ketu axis and 7 th lord in navamsa afflicted by Saturn. Mars and venus ( venus in navamsa of Saturn ) in 11 th also add to the plight. As the Mars dasa begins and the transit Saturn closes on both the dasa lord and kalatrakarak and having only 2 bindus in its bhinaastak varga I am in doubt whether true peace would prevail despite all the good factors mentioned by Prakash. Also note that the 4 th house is occupied by the malefic Saturn destroying peace and happiness. So while the carrier prospects may improve , it is unlikely that any improvement in conjugal happiness or end in the relationship with the friend would happen .. I see no end to this Trinshanku position at least for the next 2 yrs. Legal divorce seem unlikely at least for now, improvement in financial state and gynecological disorder are among other things that seem to await in the coming months Gurudatta dash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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