Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 Jai Jinendra All, Why God need to create anything like this,I guess there is some misconception,in a very simple manner as in terms of human being,if I get liberated,as in a path towards that I leave evrything inh this world,even my brain or mind,than after liberation why I have got anything to do with that.Does it is making any sense.Think about it. God what I believe is for liberation of Soul.He is not the one who created or sustaining or destroying.Why the hell he need to do that after liberation.Getting it?.Nature by itself from billions years is a result of creation,sustainer and also destrying it day by day. I think interpreters are deceiting incessantly a world.Or decipher wrongly. All siddhas or crore that have gone Moksha has got nothing to do with us or any of such things,as they hav efound a path for Liberation and have reached there.so we just need to follow there path. Yes if you are talking about devtas,who haven't been liberated yet and acting as a God and may be solving your daily sansarik life problems,But do you think they are Librated,I don't thing so,may be going towards Liberation,they are somehow got mis-routed and just become some powerful demeanour,rather than God and acting as God.even devtas want Liberation. What is Liberation,in one line Soul is only there and exp everything of it,But cannot act,re-act or got to do anything with that. As you said desire is not required etc etc,that's what our Mahatmas and Gurus have R & D and found a true way of living and show what each of our vey soul wants. Your very body with you denotes one's selfishness which needs to be destroyed. so what ever you are doing,each and everything from nuturing,Love,sacrifice etc etc is fo body. As a very Soul cannot be seen,so always been neglected. Continuation after hearing other's comment........ Else just blindly believe on scriptures......... Gyan will not come from Reading.............. --- kapisthalam jagannathan <jagannathankr wrote: > Dear Sir, > May I add.?Kama and Krodha are given by God,I > strongly believe.If it is true that sex should be > eschewed, why then God created male and female with > a little amount of pleasure in their coming > togather.?In the case of Humans it is both physical > and more so Psychological.and emotional. > There are two purposes of marriage. > To propogate ones own kind or species.The second one > is to live togather to nurture kids.and live as a > family.For the continuance of the bond between > husband and wife and family.etc.Nature has provided > the biological and Psychological apparatus and setup > of sex and made it an incessant feature of human > life at least upto a certain age ,in the case of > each individual..Why should anyone live without sex > which is a gift of Nature.?Of course we should have > limitations to enjoy our freedom meaningfully and > fully.Therefore we have framed Laws unto > ourselves.Such Laws may vary from place to place, > country to country etc.to cater to the convenience > of identifiable groups of humans. > > Coming to sages, it is their calim that one can be > without sex and also lead a perfect and normal > life.One saint of a high order says,"A saint is one > who has perfect control over the bodyor that he is a > master of the body.".It is also believed that if > the mind is controlled in the manner in which it > ought to be kept under control,suprme knowledge > comes to him.who practices it."In a nut shell ,it is > believed that such a person becomes all knowing.?One > who has practiced alone will know the Truth of it > all. > Regards, > jagannathan. > > Deepa Sewaney <eci wrote: > Marriage is another name for sacrifice. A marriage > will be successful if > both parties learn to sacrifice > > > valist > [valist]On Behalf Of > Das Goravani > Friday, April 29, 2005 3:16 PM > valist > Re: Urgent Help Needed > > > > > Indian's, modern and old fashioned, are at odds in > these times. > > India was, even in recent decades, very much still > dominated by the strict > and puritanical brahmins of it's various religions. > I trained under some of > them. One of them, wouldn't even tolerate SPEAKING > about sex or MARRIAGE > within his temple compound, as it so disturbed him, > as he figured human life > was for another purpose other than what the animals > are good at, namely, > SEX. > > So, many Indians are faced with the dilemna these > days, if they are more > westernized/modernized, how to get advice on modern > mating matters. Their > own brahmin class will often offer advice which > rules out divorce, rules out > dating, rules out extra-marital sex, etc etc. > > This we WILL face here on this list. We can have > both sides speaking. We > can have the brahmins of old, and the modern > westerners, so long as one does > not try to dominate the other. > > I don't mind anyone speaking their mind, but trying > to dominate isn't good. > If someone trys to push and push and push their own > religious or irreligious > views, then it's not good, and I don't want that. > But if offered > humbly/kindly/nicely, then there's no harm. > > With all the failings of humans, how can we trust > our MARRIAGES to > pre-arrangement based on parents likings, or even > our charts. We cannot. > We have to have love marriage on top of both of > those. That's my feeling. > I too had an arranged marriage, or, I didn't date > the woman AT ALL prior to > marrying- it was just "arranged" and done. So I know > what most Indian's > are facing in marriage. > > I don't at this late date in humanity, that we > really have good astrologers > who can match kids correctly for marriage. I pity > all the unhappy stuck > marriages in India. But with JUST lust and love, we > don't do much better > here in the West, and perhaps we do worse. I believe > in both- chart and > love and affection- attraction plus knowledge, Venus > AND Mercury, Chart and > Love, Astrology and Attraction. > > > > > Ree MacQuoid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > > > Links > > > : > > > Links > > > > > > Jagannathan . > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > : > > > Links > > > valist > > > > > > Love is the beauty of the soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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