sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

[Guest guest]

Dear Learned Group members,

 

I wish to ask that this thing abt sun in seventh...do it really works as the

shastra says....or these are the chances only.....as i have seen a few horo with

the same sun in 7th but not such too bad things were happening in there lives..

 

i am attaching a few sayings of the books .--

 

kindly provide your comments.

 

 

The Sun in the Seventh House

 

Sutras 69-74-If the Sun is in the seventh house the marriage of the native will

take place late (that is, long after the marriageable age). He will not respect

the opposite sex. He will indulge in sexual relations with women other than his

wife. He will have more than one wife. In his 25th year he will travel to a

place far away from his native land. He will be witty and fond of non-vegetarian

food. He will not have fair dealings with his wife. He will be of unstable mind.

If the Sun is posited in his own sign Leo, the native will live with only one

wife. If the Sun is associated with an enemy or debilitated planet, or if he is

associated with or aspected by a malefic, the native will have a number of wives

(or will have sexual contacts with many women.)

 

Comments-It is clear from what is stated above that the placement of the Sun in

the 7th house is not at all favourable for marital relations except when he is

in own sign Leo. The marriage of the native will be delayed probably because of

his incapability to settle down with one woman. Further being a malefic planet

he will spoil the normal significations of the 7th house. The Sun is a hot

planet. He also signifies vitality and virility. The native will therefore be

abnormally passionate and will run after more than one woman to satisfy his

carnal desires. This vice will be further accentuated when there are malefic

influences on the Sun as described in Sutras 73 and 74. Sutra 70 says that the

native will go away to a far off place if the Sun is in the seventh in his

horoscope. We remember of one case about the correctness of this statement which

was reported in one of the issues of Prof B.V. Raman's Astrological magazine. We

would advise the readers to verify this by practical

experience.

 

Other Views

 

Brihat Jatak-The person concerned should suffer humiliation at the hands of

women.

 

Phaldeepika-Some part of the body of the native will be afflicted. The native

will act against the interests of the Govt. He will wander aimlessly and get

humiliated. The native will be devoid of happiness from wife.

 

Saravali-The native will be without lustre on his face, he will get humiliated

in public, he will suffer from diseases and will do deeds which may lead him

into prison. He will be immoral and will have no respect for women.

 

Chamatkar Chintamani-The wife of the native will suffer. The body of the native

will be afflicted. He will always be worrying. He will suffer loss in business.

Because of his jealous nature he will never get proper sleep.

 

Note-It is clear from the above views that if the Sun is in the 7th house, the

native will be immoral in all sorts of ways. Because of his immoral nature, he

will get involved in affairs which will lead to his humiliation by women. For

the same reason his marital life will not be happy. He will not be patriotic and

will act against the king or Government. For this reason he may have to wander

here and there. As far as the immorality of the native is concerned the views

expressed in Bhrigu Sutras are supported by the authorities mentioned above.

 

My question is are the above description applicable even when sun is exalted in

7th.

 

and if the above words in the books are true then are they gonna effect only

when transit or in dasha or bhulti itslef.

 

 

 

thanks and regards/

 

Tarun...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

As per the classical books any planet including the benefic brihaspati is not

wecome in 7 th , except its lord

 

but u have to take in to account all other factors and reconcille them rather

than taking a literal view of all that..

suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is aspected by jupiter

or in vargottam navaamsa would be that bad... surely not..

 

now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord of 11 th for Tula ..

so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it would improvethe factors related

to11 th house and in some way connect 11 th house with 7 th house..

 

now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its power of good would

increase

if by malefics evil effects would increase

now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7 th house

 

now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet other than the Lord

of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury if aspects the Lagna usually do

no good.

 

so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

 

still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the association with

benefics its evil would be reduced to great extent

but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house factors.

 

but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa has always the last

laugh.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Gurudatta ji

 

Sir i would like to know..that do the jupiter's 5th or 9th or some

planets like saturn's 10 affect the seventh house effects. and if the

owner of 7th is retrograde or say in evil house then are they goona

reduce the effects of 7th house.

 

thanks and regards..

 

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> As per the classical books any planet including the benefic

brihaspati is not wecome in 7 th , except its lord

>

> but u have to take in to account all other factors and reconcille

them rather than taking a literal view of all that..

> suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is

aspected by jupiter or in vargottam navaamsa would be that bad...

surely not..

>

> now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

> now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord of 11

th for Tula .. so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it would

improvethe factors related to11 th house and in some way connect 11

th house with 7 th house..

>

> now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its power of

good would increase

> if by malefics evil effects would increase

> now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7 th house

>

> now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet other

than the Lord of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury if

aspects the Lagna usually do no good.

>

> so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

>

> still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the

association with benefics its evil would be reduced to great extent

> but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house factors.

>

> but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa has

always the last laugh.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

any palnet aspecting any house or planet would have its effect depending on

the planet asprcting whether good or bad

but modification would take place surely

 

if owner of 7 th is retrograde and in evil house its evel nature would

surely increase and destruction of 7 th house effect would take place

but as i have said previousely no shor-cut way is there ... u have to

study the horoscope completely to arrive at a judgment and apply diff rules

with caution and care .

 

 

-

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

<valist>

Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:42 AM

Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

 

 

> Dear Gurudatta ji

>

> Sir i would like to know..that do the jupiter's 5th or 9th or some

> planets like saturn's 10 affect the seventh house effects. and if the

> owner of 7th is retrograde or say in evil house then are they goona

> reduce the effects of 7th house.

>

> thanks and regards..

>

>

> valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > As per the classical books any planet including the benefic

> brihaspati is not wecome in 7 th , except its lord

> >

> > but u have to take in to account all other factors and reconcille

> them rather than taking a literal view of all that..

> > suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is

> aspected by jupiter or in vargottam navaamsa would be that bad...

> surely not..

> >

> > now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

> > now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord of 11

> th for Tula .. so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it would

> improvethe factors related to11 th house and in some way connect 11

> th house with 7 th house..

> >

> > now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its power of

> good would increase

> > if by malefics evil effects would increase

> > now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7 th house

> >

> > now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet other

> than the Lord of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury if

> aspects the Lagna usually do no good.

> >

> > so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

> >

> > still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the

> association with benefics its evil would be reduced to great extent

> > but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house factors.

> >

> > but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa has

> always the last laugh.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Links

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Gurudutta ji.

 

your are right sir the horoscope should be seen before giving any

perticular effect of the horoscope.

Since the Navamsa shows the mail stability in marriage and the cases

related to it.

 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge

 

Regards

 

Tarun...

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> any palnet aspecting any house or planet would have its effect

depending on

> the planet asprcting whether good or bad

> but modification would take place surely

>

> if owner of 7 th is retrograde and in evil house its evel nature

would

> surely increase and destruction of 7 th house effect would take

place

> but as i have said previousely no shor-cut way is there ... u

have to

> study the horoscope completely to arrive at a judgment and apply

diff rules

> with caution and care .

>

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:42 AM

> Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

>

>

> > Dear Gurudatta ji

> >

> > Sir i would like to know..that do the jupiter's 5th or 9th or some

> > planets like saturn's 10 affect the seventh house effects. and if

the

> > owner of 7th is retrograde or say in evil house then are they

goona

> > reduce the effects of 7th house.

> >

> > thanks and regards..

> >

> >

> > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > As per the classical books any planet including the benefic

> > brihaspati is not wecome in 7 th , except its lord

> > >

> > > but u have to take in to account all other factors and

reconcille

> > them rather than taking a literal view of all that..

> > > suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is

> > aspected by jupiter or in vargottam navaamsa would be that bad...

> > surely not..

> > >

> > > now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

> > > now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord of

11

> > th for Tula .. so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it

would

> > improvethe factors related to11 th house and in some way connect

11

> > th house with 7 th house..

> > >

> > > now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its power of

> > good would increase

> > > if by malefics evil effects would increase

> > > now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7 th

house

> > >

> > > now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet

other

> > than the Lord of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury if

> > aspects the Lagna usually do no good.

> > >

> > > so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

> > >

> > > still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the

> > association with benefics its evil would be reduced to great

extent

> > > but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house

factors.

> > >

> > > but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa has

> > always the last laugh.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

dear tarun

 

are u newly learning Vedic astrology?

 

now i would advice u to be acquainted with Jaatak Chandrika and brihat

parashara hora.

 

Brihat paraasar hora is filled with many hints that we ordinarily ignore.

 

 

 

Another book called Saarvaartha Cintaamany is very lucid n

 

detailed in its description and its style is free -flowing. But it is a

big book .

 

 

 

' how to judge a horoscope " by BV Raman is a useful book as it contains

many illustrative charts and springs from the vast experience of this great

astrologer. His autobiography ,'Autobiography of a Vedic astrologer makes

interesting reading and is educative.

 

 

 

 

 

Now one important thing is to study the principles applying it to known

charts.

 

 

 

So u could have an idea where what principle takes upper hand.

 

 

 

And study already dissected charts by eminent astrologers

 

 

 

However I genuinely feel that learning under a direct Guru is of much

importance

 

 

 

2ndly , intuition plays a prominent place in the study of Vedic astrology it

being a divine science

 

 

 

daily practice certain Mahamantra increases the this power and gives a clear

vision of things.

 

 

 

Let me conclude narrating u a story from a Naadi Granth.......

 

 

 

Satyaachaarya , the famous astrologer , after studying all the available

resources in astrology , felt dissatisfied and found that something is

lacking in him.

 

 

 

He did rigorous penance and as a result Bhagabaan SIVA appeared before him

 

 

 

To him said Satyaacharya, O lord , I have studied all the scriptures on

astrology..

 

But still I have a vacancy and do not feel that I know all about astrology.

 

 

 

Bhagabaan siva smiled and told to him , o satyaacharya. Without divine

grace, it is impossible to know the subtle movements of planets

 

 

 

Now I am satisfied with u r tapasyaa.. till now u were just a jyotishee (

astrologer)

 

But from now onwards as a result of my blessings u would be a daibagyan (

who can see the future).

 

 

 

While concluding my letter , I would tell u that tapasyaa on one 's ISTA is

always necessary for successful prediction.

 

For gods do not like wisdom with some one who is removed from them.

 

 

 

 

 

Gurudatta Dash

 

 

 

 

 

-

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst

<valist>

Friday, May 06, 2005 7:38 AM

Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

 

 

> Dear Gurudutta ji.

>

> your are right sir the horoscope should be seen before giving any

> perticular effect of the horoscope.

> Since the Navamsa shows the mail stability in marriage and the cases

> related to it.

>

> Thanks for sharing your knowledge

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun...

>

> valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > any palnet aspecting any house or planet would have its effect

> depending on

> > the planet asprcting whether good or bad

> > but modification would take place surely

> >

> > if owner of 7 th is retrograde and in evil house its evel nature

> would

> > surely increase and destruction of 7 th house effect would take

> place

> > but as i have said previousely no shor-cut way is there ... u

> have to

> > study the horoscope completely to arrive at a judgment and apply

> diff rules

> > with caution and care .

> >

> >

> > -

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > <valist>

> > Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:42 AM

> > Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

> >

> >

> > > Dear Gurudatta ji

> > >

> > > Sir i would like to know..that do the jupiter's 5th or 9th or some

> > > planets like saturn's 10 affect the seventh house effects. and if

> the

> > > owner of 7th is retrograde or say in evil house then are they

> goona

> > > reduce the effects of 7th house.

> > >

> > > thanks and regards..

> > >

> > >

> > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > As per the classical books any planet including the benefic

> > > brihaspati is not wecome in 7 th , except its lord

> > > >

> > > > but u have to take in to account all other factors and

> reconcille

> > > them rather than taking a literal view of all that..

> > > > suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is

> > > aspected by jupiter or in vargottam navaamsa would be that bad...

> > > surely not..

> > > >

> > > > now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

> > > > now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord of

> 11

> > > th for Tula .. so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it

> would

> > > improvethe factors related to11 th house and in some way connect

> 11

> > > th house with 7 th house..

> > > >

> > > > now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its power of

> > > good would increase

> > > > if by malefics evil effects would increase

> > > > now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7 th

> house

> > > >

> > > > now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet

> other

> > > than the Lord of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury if

> > > aspects the Lagna usually do no good.

> > > >

> > > > so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

> > > >

> > > > still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the

> > > association with benefics its evil would be reduced to great

> extent

> > > > but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house

> factors.

> > > >

> > > > but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa has

> > > always the last laugh.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Links

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[Guest guest]

Dear Gurudatta ji,

 

Yes sir ,i m newly learning vedic astrology.

 

I have read BPHS. but there is not much detailed in that book..

 

I will surely read the other books suggested by you.

 

Thanks

 

tarun..

 

valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

<gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> dear tarun

>

> are u newly learning Vedic astrology?

>

> now i would advice u to be acquainted with Jaatak Chandrika and

brihat

> parashara hora.

>

> Brihat paraasar hora is filled with many hints that we ordinarily

ignore.

>

>

>

> Another book called Saarvaartha Cintaamany is very

lucid n

>

> detailed in its description and its style is free -flowing. But it

is a

> big book .

>

>

>

> ' how to judge a horoscope " by BV Raman is a useful book as it

contains

> many illustrative charts and springs from the vast experience of

this great

> astrologer. His autobiography ,'Autobiography of a Vedic astrologer

makes

> interesting reading and is educative.

>

>

>

>

>

> Now one important thing is to study the principles applying it to

known

> charts.

>

>

>

> So u could have an idea where what principle takes upper hand.

>

>

>

> And study already dissected charts by eminent astrologers

>

>

>

> However I genuinely feel that learning under a direct Guru is of

much

> importance

>

>

>

> 2ndly , intuition plays a prominent place in the study of Vedic

astrology it

> being a divine science

>

>

>

> daily practice certain Mahamantra increases the this power and

gives a clear

> vision of things.

>

>

>

> Let me conclude narrating u a story from a Naadi Granth.......

>

>

>

> Satyaachaarya , the famous astrologer , after studying all the

available

> resources in astrology , felt dissatisfied and found that something

is

> lacking in him.

>

>

>

> He did rigorous penance and as a result Bhagabaan SIVA appeared

before him

>

>

>

> To him said Satyaacharya, O lord , I have studied all the

scriptures on

> astrology..

>

> But still I have a vacancy and do not feel that I know all about

astrology.

>

>

>

> Bhagabaan siva smiled and told to him , o satyaacharya. Without

divine

> grace, it is impossible to know the subtle movements of planets

>

>

>

> Now I am satisfied with u r tapasyaa.. till now u were just a

jyotishee (

> astrologer)

>

> But from now onwards as a result of my blessings u would be a

daibagyan (

> who can see the future).

>

>

>

> While concluding my letter , I would tell u that tapasyaa on one 's

ISTA is

> always necessary for successful prediction.

>

> For gods do not like wisdom with some one who is removed from them.

>

>

>

>

>

> Gurudatta Dash

>

>

>

>

>

> -

> "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> <valist>

> Friday, May 06, 2005 7:38 AM

> Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

>

>

> > Dear Gurudutta ji.

> >

> > your are right sir the horoscope should be seen before giving any

> > perticular effect of the horoscope.

> > Since the Navamsa shows the mail stability in marriage and the

cases

> > related to it.

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your knowledge

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Tarun...

> >

> > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > any palnet aspecting any house or planet would have its effect

> > depending on

> > > the planet asprcting whether good or bad

> > > but modification would take place surely

> > >

> > > if owner of 7 th is retrograde and in evil house its evel nature

> > would

> > > surely increase and destruction of 7 th house effect would take

> > place

> > > but as i have said previousely no shor-cut way is there ... u

> > have to

> > > study the horoscope completely to arrive at a judgment and apply

> > diff rules

> > > with caution and care .

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> > > <valist>

> > > Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:42 AM

> > > Re: sun in 7th... are the following upto mark

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Gurudatta ji

> > > >

> > > > Sir i would like to know..that do the jupiter's 5th or 9th or

some

> > > > planets like saturn's 10 affect the seventh house effects.

and if

> > the

> > > > owner of 7th is retrograde or say in evil house then are they

> > goona

> > > > reduce the effects of 7th house.

> > > >

> > > > thanks and regards..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > valist, "Dr. Gurudatta Dash"

> > > > <gurudatta_d@h...> wrote:

> > > > > As per the classical books any planet including the benefic

> > > > brihaspati is not wecome in 7 th , except its lord

> > > > >

> > > > > but u have to take in to account all other factors and

> > reconcille

> > > > them rather than taking a literal view of all that..

> > > > > suppose sun in kumbha or makar in 7th..very bad but if it is

> > > > aspected by jupiter or in vargottam navaamsa would be that

bad...

> > > > surely not..

> > > > >

> > > > > now suppose it is in exaltation in Mesha ..in 7 th

> > > > > now only for Tula lagna this would happen.. sun is the lord

of

> > 11

> > > > th for Tula .. so bad ..now it is in exaltaion in 7 th.. so it

> > would

> > > > improvethe factors related to11 th house and in some way

connect

> > 11

> > > > th house with 7 th house..

> > > > >

> > > > > now if it is asscociated or aspected by any benefic its

power of

> > > > good would increase

> > > > > if by malefics evil effects would increase

> > > > > now suppose it is aspected by mars.. u expect no good for 7

th

> > house

> > > > >

> > > > > now any planet in 7th directly aspects the Lagan. any planet

> > other

> > > > than the Lord of lagna or jupiter or well-assiciated mercury

if

> > > > aspects the Lagna usually do no good.

> > > > >

> > > > > so sun being a malefic its aspect is not wecome

> > > > >

> > > > > still if it is in exaltation had got good amasas got the

> > > > association with benefics its evil would be reduced to great

> > extent

> > > > > but some stain would definitely reanain for 1-7 th house

> > factors.

> > > > >

> > > > > but matters relating to marriage and conjugal life Navamsa

has

> > > > always the last laugh.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > : valist-

 

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