Theory of Past and Future Life Analysis (for Sanjay and all)

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Sanjay,

 

You made a very important point. Self-inquiry or research into

consciousness is needed to find out how the universe works. However,

most people are only interested in experiencing their daily lives

from a limited point of view.

 

There are individuals who can conceive of happiness and bliss beyond

our daily lives (limited states of consciousness). Therefore, they

take up meditation and other yogic techniques to experience the

higher states of consciousness.

 

For most people, however, they only take up self-inquiry and

meditation when their daily lives are not going so well and are sad

and depressed about a number of things. Therefore, their motivation

is to find the nectar of bliss to quench their thirst for happiness

and fulfillment.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, "sanjayprabhakaran"

<sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote:

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> In my understanding, Shastra like Jyotish Vedanga etc rely on

> understanding of Jeevaatma, Paramaatma, reincarnations etc.

>

> Science's hall mark is replicability when expiremented. Material

> Sciences show replicability thru observable and measurable matter in

> universe.

>

> Whereas, Shastra relies on replicability by Experience. When we

> follow the medidation techniques using mantra, pranayama etc. The

> individual experiences it and thus validates the fact. But the

> individual cannot easily express it to others who have not followed

or

> done the experiment themselves. The importance is the self has to

> realize the fact, to vouche for it.

>

> Whether how much Sad or Happy one is cannot be expressed, but when

> the other person who has has similar experience can very well

> understand the fact. Since these are very personal levels, The

Puranas

> tell them as stories of individuals. Thus, we attach personal

bonding

> to the various characters and experience the same thru the story.

Thru

> the sequence of emotions the story takes us thru, one realise many

> facts. Thus, Sometimes even 'Bhakti'(Love) which is very abstract

> concept, they attempt to teach thru Stories in Puraana. Normally we

> all know Love cannot be taught.

>

> Internal Self Experiements (of Mantra, Yoga, Paranayama etc) as

> Guided by various teachers thru thier personal teachings, books etc

> can be used systematically to understand facts Like Jeevatama,

> Paramatmaa etc. Until one does follow and understand them they will

> remain as useless texts.

>

> These are my few thoughts.

>

> Warm regards

> SAnjay P

>

> Hari Om Tat Sat

>

>

>

> valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Das Goravani wrote:

> >

> > We in fact know nothing at all about this subject, but we have

> lots of inferences and built up belief systems around it.

> >

> >

> > Hi Rick,

> >

> > I agree.... I have met various persons who have seen their past

> lives in meditation or through psychic powers, and who can also see

> others past lives. That is 'their' particular reality however.. not

mine.

> >

> > I have a 'belief' and 'knowledge' about the subject, cultivated

from

> various sources i.e. friends, gurus, shastras etc, and I've had a

few

> dreams that indicated specific past lives etc--but these are not

> equitable to a fundamental, direct understanding on a day to day (or

> minute to minute) basis, of my own past lives.

> >

> >

> > Examining other of my various belief systems, often leads me to

the

> same conclusion. Although I may presume to 'know' a lot about

various

> subjects,

> > this so called knowledge falls apart at a certain level of

> examination (something like the domino effect--push one domino over

> and all the rest collapse as a consequence).

> >

> >

> > Best,

> >

> > Steve

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >