Theory of Past and Future Life Analysis (Steve and all members)

[Guest guest]

Steven,

 

Since you have dreams about past lives, doesn't it make you wonder

where it's coming from and how it can be seen through your chart?

 

The fact that you dreamt it is a human reality, since our dreaming

consciousness is one of the common consciousness that all humans

experience.

 

The point I am raising is whether the planets are the prime actors

that caused the dream or are they just a conduit of past life

experiences that are being reenacted in this present life form?

 

It is also conceivable that we as humans are creating our own

universe when we dream--somewhat akin to the scientific conjectures

of a parallel universe, and worm holes.

 

This idea is further in line with the vedic story that Vishnu creates

universes as he breathes out during his slumber in the causal ocean.

Is this vedic vision a prophetic message of who humans are and what

humans can achieve?

 

And, what about those stories in vedic literature stating the rishis

of the past were able to travel to other planets and universes? It

is possible that they did it through their own dream consciousness.

 

I don't believe we can dismiss these conjectures as pipe dreams.

Finding the answers requires research within one's own

consciousness. I believe this research is similarly important as

those done by physicists using linear accelerators at Stanford and

Europe.

 

The answers will be of utmost importance as part of our own self

knowledge. Lastly, the answers will reveal our relationship with

Nature and the universe.

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

valist, Steven Stuckey <steven@l...> wrote:

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> Das Goravani wrote:

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> We in fact know nothing at all about this subject, but we have

lots of inferences and built up belief systems around it.

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> Hi Rick,

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> I agree.... I have met various persons who have seen their past

lives in meditation or through psychic powers, and who can also see

others past lives. That is 'their' particular reality however.. not

mine.

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> I have a 'belief' and 'knowledge' about the subject, cultivated

from various sources i.e. friends, gurus, shastras etc, and I've had

a few dreams that indicated specific past lives etc--but these are

not equitable to a fundamental, direct understanding on a day to day

(or minute to minute) basis, of my own past lives.

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> Examining other of my various belief systems, often leads me to the

same conclusion. Although I may presume to 'know' a lot about various

subjects,

> this so called knowledge falls apart at a certain level of

examination (something like the domino effect--push one domino over

and all the rest collapse as a consequence).

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> Best,

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> Steve

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[Guest guest]

I met Dean Kraft. The guy is a somewhat famous psychic healer. He just

passes his hands over people and kills cancer etc. He charges A LOT. He's

a white American with no particular spirituality. He was just born with this

talent.

 

When I met him, it was to have my wife receive his treatments, for her

Chronic Fatigue. This is not his forte. Killing things is, like Cancer.

 

Anyway, he demonstrated his power to me, since I was paying the $250 per 15

minute sessions....

 

He could turn it on and off, but you could feel it. He would hold his hand

over any part of your body, and he'd say "Now I'm going to turn it on, do

you feel it?"

 

And you would feel it. You weren't imagining, not at all. It wasn't a

stretch to "feel it". His power was very real. It was like your flesh was

metal, and his hand a powerful magnet. You could feel your flesh moving and

shaking...the power was real, not imagined.

 

So my point is, there is more to life than we normally see day to day. This

is for certain. And Jyotish works too well to dismiss, so we know there is

Universal Order, and that most of the ordering are non-visible gravity waves

or some type of light etc...

 

And everywhere we see action and appropriate reaction, so that is the most

obvious way of expecting reincarnation to work- that basically, you continue

along just right where you left off, or, put another way, you get what you

created, or deserve, or need, like that.

 

I woke up in this life thinking like a Priest, wanted to be a Priest, became

a junior one, then a Hare Krishna Hindu Monk, then after all that I found

Jyotish and found out I have Jupiter in the 9th at 9 degrees aspecting my

lagna. Then, my best dreams in this life are fully religious, or about

being a monk or priest or the like, holy leader type.

 

So like John just wrote- there's synchronicity afoot, and whether it's dream

state, real state, or parallel, it sure feels like there's a flow. I

personally do believe in reincarnation by the way. Another else would just

be lousy and cruel. I haven't sensed lousy and cruel at the top. I do find

it at the bottom, sortof, but then again....

 

There are these two girls in England who are able to remember events from

past life which are verified by others there... And the things are

unknowable to anyone, so this is a real case of past life memory, vivid,

today, real, confirmed, everything. Their identities and whereabouts are a

closely guarded secret, but I know where they are so na na na na na na na

.....

 

Did you know there is a two headed teenager in America? Yep. These two

girls share a lower body. They, it, are formed real well. There's two arms,

on each side, so each girl gets one arm, and fully controls it and one leg,

fully, alone, but she/it can run, fast, in coordinated leg strokes. One

head likes Orange Juice, the other doesn't. They have distinct

personalities, and fight, and so on. It's one person, up to the stomach,

but two joined torsos then up, kindof wide at the top in other words. Both

faces look forward perfectly. She/They are really well formed. Probably

will want two husbands someday. Two people sharing a stomach and set of

legs. "Why did you have to drink that, now I have indigestion, what about

you?"

 

I wonder if one is Republican and the other Demo... ? Or Catholic and

Protestant? That would be an Irish twin. They are the only two people who

could "die alone together in a single double murder suicide".

 

We have no austerity, hence no power, these days. We never have to sit in a

cave for a few months to wait out the snow... Or even a weekend to wait out

the rain... We're always mobile, provided for, protected, etc., so we build

up no tejas (power).

 

That's why in the past Yogis and Druids could do stuff. They were highly

conscious while enduring long and real austerities. They built up mental

power and resolve like we have never experienced. I think this matters.

I'm not preaching. This just makes sense to me.

 

When I first encountered the writings on the scholars of Celtism on the

matters of their religions and myths, I was surprised to find that there was

not too much on the "whole" and "God". It seemed to be more focused on the

here, our place, this sphere, it's deities. They were far from monotheists.

 

But since I've realized that it's so hard to finalize and pinpoint that part

of philosophy anyway- whether there is this one God or that one, or we are

all one originally, and we will be again, one mind, whatever, this kind of

high end stuff, the final stuff, the end answer, that's the hardest one to

know about, or sense for certain, so I'm not surprised those who were fond

of just being on the land, in the forest, and respected nature a lot, etc.,

well, not surprised to find that they didn't deal with it as much as other

more urbanized, centralized and ordered (one, central, supreme, etc)

 

I've become more OK with "I don't know that". I used to hate, no, not even

say that sentence. I knew everything because I knew Vishnu and Veda. Now

I'm more open. There is nothing equal to Veda on Earth. That's true. India

is a huge contributor today. But we did lose a lot... We lost many cultures

over time since that golden age long ago.

 

One thing is for sure, we're all swimming in the same truth, linked together

by energy that is functioning in an ordered way, hence this communication is

reliable and possible. Jyotish helps us look at that ordering in the

biggest and best way I've ever seen. It's amazing this mysticism is

programmable on computers to be used by any intelligent person! !! ! ! ! !

 

We are very lucky and blessed to have such things at our purchasing little

fingertips. Simply wonderful !!!!

 

Today the universal consciousness of all of us shall move one day forward.

Many will die, many will be born. Everyone will age one day, materially and

spiritually. Tommorrow will be different. In 100 years there will be all

new bodies on Earth, even todays babies will be dead old people by then. We

are in a flow of learning.

 

For what purpose, and what destination?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

John wrote:

 

>Steven,

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>Since you have dreams about past lives, doesn't it make you wonder

>where it's coming from and how it can be seen through your chart?

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Hi John,

 

I have a 'belief' in reincarnation. I have had some personnel

experiences that have shown me this may be true. My experience with

astrology and reincarnation usually leads me to the 12th house (rather

than the 5th). Extracting past lifetime data from one's chart and

believing this to be factual, may also be just another dream.

I also have a belief that if I continue along a yogic path, my past will

at some point become known to me.

My current 'reality' however does not emcompass this vision, therefore I

find it more pratical for my spiritual life, not to speculate too far

on such matters.

 

 

>It is also conceivable that we as humans are creating our own

>universe when we dream--somewhat akin to the scientific conjectures

>of a parallel universe, and worm holes.

>

 

 

Yes, just as we may be dreaming that we are 'awake' and are sane,

rational human beings.

 

 

>This idea is further in line with the vedic story that Vishnu creates

>universes as he breathes out during his slumber in the causal ocean.

>Is this vedic vision a prophetic message of who humans are and what

>humans can achieve?

>

 

 

Could be--but how can we know for certain? When I can 'see' Maha Vishnu

is this state, or the Paramatman within my heart, and my past

lifetimes, then it will be my everyday reality.

Before this happens, there is belief, faith, speculation and a certain

identification that occurs with this knowledge that may or may not be

conducive to me attaining this state.

 

 

>And, what about those stories in vedic literature stating the rishis

>of the past were able to travel to other planets and universes? It

>is possible that they did it through their own dream consciousness.

>

>I don't believe we can dismiss these conjectures as pipe dreams.

>Finding the answers requires research within one's own

>consciousness. I believe this research is similarly important as

>those done by physicists using linear accelerators at Stanford and

>Europe

>

 

 

 

>I don't believe we should dismiss this as "pipe dreams" either. On the other

hand, accepting too many conjectures as factual, before they become our personal

reality, may also be troublesome.

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>The answers will be of utmost importance as part of our own self

>knowledge. Lastly, the answers will reveal our relationship with

>Nature and the universe.

>

 

Agreed....

 

Best,wishes,

 

Steve

 

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