Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Juliana, Steve, Chris, and all, Looks like we'll have to wait another day to verify the shuttle chart. Aug 8, 5:13 AM (ET) SPACE CENTER, Houston (AP) - After orbiting the Earth for 13 days, astronauts aboard space shuttle Discovery were told to circle the planet for another day as bad weather in Florida forced NASA to delay Monday's scheduled landing. Meanwhile, Steve, thanks for the data on Jupiter-Ketu in the civil rights era. I do think this is significant with regard to the terrorist acts of assassination in King and Kennedy compared with current events. And on another note, Hitler had Saturn in Cancer at the midheaven (as does an entire generation living at this time, who came of age during the civil rights era of the 1960s, including myself), so I do see some cyclical repetition based on planetary combinations occurring at this time with Saturn in Cancer and the Jupiter-Ketu conjunction with regard to extreme acts of terror and "evil" crimes against humanity. On another note, ABC anchor Peter Jennings died Sunday night (1938-2005), I found as I turned on the news to find out if the shuttle had landed. Janna valist, "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa> wrote: > Steve, Chris, Janna and all... > > Looks like the Discovery re-entry is still scheduled for 4:46 AM > tomorrow. Based on my own similar analysis of the chart for > 8/8/2005 at 4:46 AM, Gemini rising, I believe that the potential > problem of the shuttle's re-entry may be more grave than we have > been led to believe by the media. Along with the points you have > made re: chart lord Mercury in combustion, retrograde and squaring > Mars, and widely conjunct Saturn, etc., there are a few other > troublesome influences that could create at the very least a great > deal of fear and worry for those directly involved. > > Rahu is the most elevated graha in the chart. In the Challenger > disaster, Rahu was on the Ascendant. As I believe Steve pointed out > something along this line, the nodes in kendras can signify trouble > or danger. This in itself doesn't mean so much, I know, but in the > chart for 8/8/2005, Rahu is in chart lord Mercury's Nakshatra. > > I checked the Sahams/Arabic Parts and see that the Part of Peril > (Asc. + 8th cusp-Saturn) is EXACTLY conjunct the Lagna, and the Part > of Catastrophe is almost exactly opposite Mercury at ~19 degrees > Capricorn. > > I imagine many of you have heard of the Dark Moon used in Western > astrology. It is an astronomical point that can represent danger, > destruction, or the shadow side of things. The Dark Moon is conjunct > chart lord Mercury within half a degree. > > I do not want to make dire predictions, due to certain ethical and > philosophical reasons, so like you, I also "hope" that the shuttle > landing will go well. It must certainly be a very dangerous mission, > but somehow I "feel" it will go well anyway. Perhaps the landing > will go as scheduled, and the Dark Moon is pointing out something > else. Perhaps NASA's shuttle program is not exactly what it > seems--does the shuttle program have some certain occult > significance of which the public is unaware? But now I am veering > into my favorite woo-woo land of Conspiracy Theories. Uh-oh. > > Love and Light, > Juliana S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Janna Lynn wrote: > Juliana, Steve, Chris, and all, > > Looks like we'll have to wait another day to verify the shuttle chart. > Janna and members, The first opportunity tomorrow will be at 5:07 AM EDT at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral. This may not work due to a smiliar cloud cover hanging over the area, so alternative sites and times are being devised. It's a strong possibility that Edwards Air Force Base will be the next choice. Best, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Juliana, - "Juliana Swanson" <omhamsa <valist> Sunday, August 07, 2005 5:14 PM Re: Shuttle Re-entry > Steve, Chris, Janna and all... > > Looks like the Discovery re-entry is still scheduled for 4:46 AM > tomorrow. Based on my own similar analysis of the chart for > 8/8/2005 at 4:46 AM, Gemini rising, I believe that the potential > problem of the shuttle's re-entry may be more grave than we have > been led to believe by the media. Along with the points you have > made re: chart lord Mercury in combustion, retrograde and squaring > Mars, and widely conjunct Saturn, etc., there are a few other > troublesome influences that could create at the very least a great > deal of fear and worry for those directly involved. > > Rahu is the most elevated graha in the chart. In the Challenger > disaster, Rahu was on the Ascendant. As I believe Steve pointed out > something along this line, the nodes in kendras can signify trouble > or danger. This in itself doesn't mean so much, I know, but in the > chart for 8/8/2005, Rahu is in chart lord Mercury's Nakshatra. > > I checked the Sahams/Arabic Parts and see that the Part of Peril > (Asc. + 8th cusp-Saturn) is EXACTLY conjunct the Lagna, and the Part > of Catastrophe is almost exactly opposite Mercury at ~19 degrees > Capricorn. Some great points here. Which house system were you using for the 8th house? I like the sahams a lot but put them aside when the house question entered the picture and created more uncertainty in the calculations. I would add that if we use the July 4th chart, and especially the 6.30 pm chart, Mars is making a near exact partial 3rd house aspect (aka the sextile) to Venus, karaka for vehicles and 4th lord from the Moon. Also the delay has meant that tr. Mercury is that much closer to Rahu in the 8th. I don't think that's enough affliction to cause loss of life in this situation, since the Challenger and Columbia accidents had apparently more significant afflictions involving Mercury and Mars in the their charts. The notion that nothing untoward will happen tomorrow is supported by the 4/30/1789 chart. In both prior shuttle accidents, Mars and Mercury were clearly involved in difficult configurations. This isn't the case here, although Mars just passed a square with Uranus. That may well represent the revelation of the falling foam chunks jeopardizing the whole program that came to light right after launch. But it's all a learning experience, so we'll soon find out how low the threshold has been set. Chris > > I imagine many of you have heard of the Dark Moon used in Western > astrology. It is an astronomical point that can represent danger, > destruction, or the shadow side of things. The Dark Moon is conjunct > chart lord Mercury within half a degree. > > I do not want to make dire predictions, due to certain ethical and > philosophical reasons, so like you, I also "hope" that the shuttle > landing will go well. It must certainly be a very dangerous mission, > but somehow I "feel" it will go well anyway. Perhaps the landing > will go as scheduled, and the Dark Moon is pointing out something > else. Perhaps NASA's shuttle program is not exactly what it > seems--does the shuttle program have some certain occult > significance of which the public is unaware? But now I am veering > into my favorite woo-woo land of Conspiracy Theories. Uh-oh. > > Love and Light, > Juliana S. > > > > > > > Links > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 Steve, Juliana, Janna - Just to add some second thoughts here. If they do land tomorrow, it looks like the transit Moon will fall in between Neptune and Saturn. Not a happy pair of bookends. Also there is a chance that Moon will be fairly close to the influence of natal Ketu 16 Capricorn. This would occur if they landed in the afternoon or evening eastern time. The other thing I really don't like is the presence of Saturn right on the equal 8th house cusp of the July 4th 6.30 pm chart. This may have nothing to do with the shuttle but it is a portentous factor in the coming 7-14 days. Finally, tr Mars will be squaring the close Moon-Rahu conj in the 4th house of the inaugural shuttle launch Apr 12 1981 7.00 am. Tr Saturn is applying to that Moon as well within 3 degrees. This not only bodes poorly for this mission, but may well symbolize the larger problems in the program. The official cancellation may arrive in Feb 2006 when Saturn stations near that Moon. back to hoping, Chris - "Steven Stuckey" <steven <valist> Sunday, August 07, 2005 6:22 PM Re: Re: Shuttle Re-entry > > > Juliana Swanson wrote: > > > I do not want to make dire predictions, due to certain ethical and > > philosophical reasons, so like you, I also "hope" that the shuttle > > landing will go well. It must certainly be a very dangerous mission, > > but somehow I "feel" it will go well anyway. Perhaps the landing > > will go as scheduled, and the Dark Moon is pointing out something > > else. Perhaps NASA's shuttle program is not exactly what it > > seems--does the shuttle program have some certain occult > > significance of which the public is unaware? But now I am veering > > into my favorite woo-woo land of Conspiracy Theories. Uh-oh. > > Dear Juliana, > > We all learn from these events and it is good to discuss things in > advance, rather than ex post-facto, as is usually done. For myself, it > tends to make me focus more, and I am more likely to remember the > lessons learned. > > Compared to the kind of technology our government probably has in their > possession, NASA would be like a group of kindergarten children playing > in the sandbox. > I don't think this is "woo-woo" at all. > > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.714 / Virus Database: 470 - Release 7/2/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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