Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Dear Kishore, I shall do the analysis based on logic of KAS only. Krushnaji can guide me if I am going away. 7th lord is Lord of House A for 12th as B, 7th house is C for 3rd as B, 7th house is B for 7th house, 7th house is D for 10th house as B, and 7th house is E for 2nd as A. Let me expland of the above. 7th house lord as A is for 12th house as B. 7th house is Karak sthan for 12th as B so its having karaktwa for 12th house matters. 7th house lord as Lord of B we consider for 7th house. 7th house lord as LoC we consider for 3rd house as B, parakram can generate more desire or Kama. Again 3rd house and 7th house will have the same nakshtras. 7th house lord as LoD will be very eager to give authority or 10th house matters. 7th is 10th house from 10th house or u can say the house of authority of authority. 7th house lord as LoE will be eager to give wealth, family, kutumbh. Also 7th house and 2nd house are called Marak sthan in the chart and the reason can be attributed to the fact that 7th house is also denoted for accident. 7th house is that for studying accident (I think someone just had posted the chart on the list yesterday or day before about accident and u can study that) and if 7th house is for accident then 2nd house is the Karak for accident. Now coming to your quesiton of 7th house lord in 8th house. It means that 7th house lord is gaining status. 7th house lord is moving into its Dhan sthan. So its status is increased means a person can get gains from his wife. Now if u are considering 8th house as B, then 12th from B coming and residing in House B=8 is not good for 8th house. 8th house is A for Lagna or SELF, 8th house is B for 8th house and it can be inheritance, death etc, 8th house is C for 4th house as B meaning it can denote hidden things, 4th house is that of knowledge and 8th is phalit sthan of that, incidentally 4th and 8th house would have the same nakshtras too and it can denote research, its House D for 11th house and E for 3rd house. So 12th from B coming might not be condusive. But that is again at the surface, the full chart also should be seen. For example, considering 2nd house as B, then it means LoE for 2nd house i.e .7th lord is moved into enemy house of 2nd house (8th hosue is 7th from 2nd). But at the same time as per KAS LoD and LoE's aspect will not harm the house so even if 7th lord moves into 8th house and it will aspect 2nd house from there its dristi cant be consdiered malefic (assuming the 7th house lord has more than 4 bindus and is residing in 8th house). What if Mars is 2nd and 7th lord i.e. Libra lagna and Mars has moved into 8th house? So here Mars will go into enemy hosue from 2nd house i.e. in 8th house (8th is 7th from 2nd) but for 2nd house (A) Mars is LoE so he cant act bad infact he will be eager to give results or its samdharmi. For 10th house Mars is Aspecting House C for 10th as B so here Mars will still give result and generally Mars has less than 4 bindus so its aspect will be beneficial so from WS the points of mars will be good for 2nd house, 3rd house and 11th house so better quality of results too. So mars cant be bad for 10th house infact and will give result of 10th hosue despites aspecting House C for 10th. For 11th house as B, Mars goes into House D or 8th house then here Mars will aspect 11th house (4th drisit) with more than 4 bindus (assuming mars generally has less than 4 bindus) so it will increase the points in WS for 11th house so in Mars antra one can expect better results. Now if Mars is with more than 4 bindus then it will be eager to give results as it will be in House D with more than 4 bindus, yes but at the same time it will reduce the points of 11th house due to its aspect, but it will give timing. Again we need to check the Samdhamris to Mars, the WS etc etc etc before coming to a final conclusion if something is good or bad which again is a matter of perception w.r.t. quality of event. In your mail u have talked of ththis or birht during particular thitis, we are checking that in KAS based on relative positioning of planets as due to this fact can planets be allocated or get bindus. Mars can get 3 bindus only if lagna and other planets are in particular combination i.e. w.r.t. each other and Ashtakavarga considers this i.e. SAV. So during a particular tithi Moon and Sun are in a particular position. Adding another layer, sun and moon are natural Samdharmis to Mars. So take our above example of Libra lagna and 7th and 2nd lord in 8th house. Here unless sun and moon are in 2nd house Mars and Moon and Mars and Sun will become natual samdharmis. So say for 11th house and assume mars is with 3 bindus if antra of sun comes then sun will give the result of timing for 11th house. Now assume Mars is in 8th house in Taurus at 10 deg to 16deg40 then from 10 to 13deg20 he will be in navamsa of Moon and from 13deg20 to 16deg40 he will be in navamsa of Sun. So by that virtue also they can become functionl samdharmis. In your mail you have talked of relation with spouse and here we check lagna and 7th lords and their status and also from sun and moon and venus for male and mars in addition for females. Its all given in the lesson. So libra lagna then lagna lord and venus will have important relation. Here lagna lord is Venus and 7th lord is mars. So here we only know that mars is in 8th house however if Venus is in 12th house or 5th house then much better relations with wife. We also need to study the same with respt to sun, moon, venus and mars. The infomation is not available in your mail w.r.t. that. W.r.t. remedies we do not discuss that here. This system deals with one of the most difficult part of Astrology which is timing of events and using Krushna's ashtakavarga system and we also are using Krushnas ayanamsa. Regarding Venus in Scorpio or say in Virgo we have lesson 26 which deals with Multiplication factors which can be used for finding the factor to be used it covers a lot of things but for quality and not timing. Ok, I have run out of time and I hope what I have written is useful. Cheers !!! Ash , " kishore mohan " <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this house, > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons and > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as indication of > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of seperation > from spouse in hour of need. > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs with > the lover walking away first. > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the native > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on the > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in view > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, lots of > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes the > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital affair, if > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an Arudha > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, the > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > I hope the gurujan on this group agree with my above comments. > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to throw > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm them too. > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, conduct a > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > Kishore patnaik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Dear Kishore and group, My appologies for making a typo. Mars in Tarus from 20 deg to 23deg20 will be in navamsa of moon and 23deg20 to 26deg40 will be in navamsa of sun. I had written 10 to 13:20 and 13:20 to 16:40. It should be 7th and 8th navamsa. Sorry about that. Cheers !!! Ash , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Kishore, > > I shall do the analysis based on logic of KAS only. Krushnaji can > guide me if I am going away. > > 7th lord is Lord of House A for 12th as B, 7th house is C for 3rd as > B, 7th house is B for 7th house, 7th house is D for 10th house as B, > and 7th house is E for 2nd as A. > > Let me expland of the above. > > 7th house lord as A is for 12th house as B. 7th house is Karak > sthan for 12th as B so its having karaktwa for 12th house matters. > > 7th house lord as Lord of B we consider for 7th house. > > 7th house lord as LoC we consider for 3rd house as B, parakram can > generate more desire or Kama. Again 3rd house and 7th house will > have the same nakshtras. > > 7th house lord as LoD will be very eager to give authority or 10th > house matters. 7th is 10th house from 10th house or u can say the > house of authority of authority. > > 7th house lord as LoE will be eager to give wealth, family, kutumbh. > > Also 7th house and 2nd house are called Marak sthan in the chart and > the reason can be attributed to the fact that 7th house is also > denoted for accident. 7th house is that for studying accident (I > think someone just had posted the chart on the list yesterday or day > before about accident and u can study that) and if 7th house is for > accident then 2nd house is the Karak for accident. > > Now coming to your quesiton of 7th house lord in 8th house. > > It means that 7th house lord is gaining status. 7th house lord is > moving into its Dhan sthan. > > So its status is increased means a person can get gains from his > wife. > > Now if u are considering 8th house as B, then 12th from B coming and > residing in House B=8 is not good for 8th house. > > 8th house is A for Lagna or SELF, 8th house is B for 8th house and > it can be inheritance, death etc, 8th house is C for 4th house as B > meaning it can denote hidden things, 4th house is that of knowledge > and 8th is phalit sthan of that, incidentally 4th and 8th house > would have the same nakshtras too and it can denote research, its > House D for 11th house and E for 3rd house. So 12th from B coming > might not be condusive. > > But that is again at the surface, the full chart also should be seen. > > For example, considering 2nd house as B, then it means LoE for 2nd > house i.e .7th lord is moved into enemy house of 2nd house (8th > hosue is 7th from 2nd). But at the same time as per KAS LoD and > LoE's aspect will not harm the house so even if 7th lord moves into > 8th house and it will aspect 2nd house from there its dristi cant be > consdiered malefic (assuming the 7th house lord has more than 4 > bindus and is residing in 8th house). > > What if Mars is 2nd and 7th lord i.e. Libra lagna and Mars has moved > into 8th house? > > So here Mars will go into enemy hosue from 2nd house i.e. in 8th > house (8th is 7th from 2nd) but for 2nd house (A) Mars is LoE so he > cant act bad infact he will be eager to give results or its > samdharmi. > > For 10th house Mars is Aspecting House C for 10th as B so here Mars > will still give result and generally Mars has less than 4 bindus so > its aspect will be beneficial so from WS the points of mars will be > good for 2nd house, 3rd house and 11th house so better quality of > results too. So mars cant be bad for 10th house infact and will > give result of 10th hosue despites aspecting House C for 10th. > > For 11th house as B, Mars goes into House D or 8th house then here > Mars will aspect 11th house (4th drisit) with more than 4 bindus > (assuming mars generally has less than 4 bindus) so it will increase > the points in WS for 11th house so in Mars antra one can expect > better results. Now if Mars is with more than 4 bindus then it will > be eager to give results as it will be in House D with more than 4 > bindus, yes but at the same time it will reduce the points of 11th > house due to its aspect, but it will give timing. > > Again we need to check the Samdhamris to Mars, the WS etc etc etc > before coming to a final conclusion if something is good or bad > which again is a matter of perception w.r.t. quality of event. > > In your mail u have talked of ththis or birht during particular > thitis, we are checking that in KAS based on relative positioning of > planets as due to this fact can planets be allocated or get bindus. > > Mars can get 3 bindus only if lagna and other planets are in > particular combination i.e. w.r.t. each other and Ashtakavarga > considers this i.e. SAV. So during a particular tithi Moon and Sun > are in a particular position. > > Adding another layer, sun and moon are natural Samdharmis to Mars. > So take our above example of Libra lagna and 7th and 2nd lord in 8th > house. Here unless sun and moon are in 2nd house Mars and Moon and > Mars and Sun will become natual samdharmis. So say for 11th house > and assume mars is with 3 bindus if antra of sun comes then sun will > give the result of timing for 11th house. > > Now assume Mars is in 8th house in Taurus at 10 deg to 16deg40 then > from 10 to 13deg20 he will be in navamsa of Moon and from 13deg20 to > 16deg40 he will be in navamsa of Sun. So by that virtue also they > can become functionl samdharmis. > > In your mail you have talked of relation with spouse and here we > check lagna and 7th lords and their status and also from sun and > moon and venus for male and mars in addition for females. > > Its all given in the lesson. > > So libra lagna then lagna lord and venus will have important > relation. Here lagna lord is Venus and 7th lord is mars. So here > we only know that mars is in 8th house however if Venus is in 12th > house or 5th house then much better relations with wife. We also > need to study the same with respt to sun, moon, venus and mars. The > infomation is not available in your mail w.r.t. that. > > W.r.t. remedies we do not discuss that here. This system deals with > one of the most difficult part of Astrology which is timing of > events and using Krushna's ashtakavarga system and we also are using > Krushnas ayanamsa. > > Regarding Venus in Scorpio or say in Virgo we have lesson 26 which > deals with Multiplication factors which can be used for finding the > factor to be used it covers a lot of things but for quality and not > timing. > > Ok, I have run out of time and I hope what I have written is useful. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " kishore mohan " > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this > house, > > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons > and > > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as indication > of > > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of seperation > > from spouse in hour of need. > > > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs with > > the lover walking away first. > > > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the > native > > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on > the > > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in > view > > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, > lots of > > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes the > > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital affair, > if > > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an > Arudha > > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, the > > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > > > I hope the gurujan on this group agree with my above comments. > > > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to throw > > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm > them too. > > > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, > conduct a > > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Thanks Ash. It was a useful write up. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Kishore and group, > My appologies for making a typo. > > Mars in Tarus from 20 deg to 23deg20 will be in navamsa of moon and > 23deg20 to 26deg40 will be in navamsa of sun. I had written 10 to > 13:20 and 13:20 to 16:40. It should be 7th and 8th navamsa. > Sorry about that. > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Kishore, > > > > I shall do the analysis based on logic of KAS only. Krushnaji can > > guide me if I am going away. > > > > 7th lord is Lord of House A for 12th as B, 7th house is C for 3rd > as > > B, 7th house is B for 7th house, 7th house is D for 10th house as > B, > > and 7th house is E for 2nd as A. > > > > Let me expland of the above. > > > > 7th house lord as A is for 12th house as B. 7th house is Karak > > sthan for 12th as B so its having karaktwa for 12th house > matters. > > > > 7th house lord as Lord of B we consider for 7th house. > > > > 7th house lord as LoC we consider for 3rd house as B, parakram can > > generate more desire or Kama. Again 3rd house and 7th house will > > have the same nakshtras. > > > > 7th house lord as LoD will be very eager to give authority or 10th > > house matters. 7th is 10th house from 10th house or u can say the > > house of authority of authority. > > > > 7th house lord as LoE will be eager to give wealth, family, > kutumbh. > > > > Also 7th house and 2nd house are called Marak sthan in the chart > and > > the reason can be attributed to the fact that 7th house is also > > denoted for accident. 7th house is that for studying accident (I > > think someone just had posted the chart on the list yesterday or > day > > before about accident and u can study that) and if 7th house is > for > > accident then 2nd house is the Karak for accident. > > > > Now coming to your quesiton of 7th house lord in 8th house. > > > > It means that 7th house lord is gaining status. 7th house lord is > > moving into its Dhan sthan. > > > > So its status is increased means a person can get gains from his > > wife. > > > > Now if u are considering 8th house as B, then 12th from B coming > and > > residing in House B=8 is not good for 8th house. > > > > 8th house is A for Lagna or SELF, 8th house is B for 8th house and > > it can be inheritance, death etc, 8th house is C for 4th house as > B > > meaning it can denote hidden things, 4th house is that of > knowledge > > and 8th is phalit sthan of that, incidentally 4th and 8th house > > would have the same nakshtras too and it can denote research, its > > House D for 11th house and E for 3rd house. So 12th from B coming > > might not be condusive. > > > > But that is again at the surface, the full chart also should be > seen. > > > > For example, considering 2nd house as B, then it means LoE for 2nd > > house i.e .7th lord is moved into enemy house of 2nd house (8th > > hosue is 7th from 2nd). But at the same time as per KAS LoD and > > LoE's aspect will not harm the house so even if 7th lord moves > into > > 8th house and it will aspect 2nd house from there its dristi cant > be > > consdiered malefic (assuming the 7th house lord has more than 4 > > bindus and is residing in 8th house). > > > > What if Mars is 2nd and 7th lord i.e. Libra lagna and Mars has > moved > > into 8th house? > > > > So here Mars will go into enemy hosue from 2nd house i.e. in 8th > > house (8th is 7th from 2nd) but for 2nd house (A) Mars is LoE so > he > > cant act bad infact he will be eager to give results or its > > samdharmi. > > > > For 10th house Mars is Aspecting House C for 10th as B so here > Mars > > will still give result and generally Mars has less than 4 bindus > so > > its aspect will be beneficial so from WS the points of mars will > be > > good for 2nd house, 3rd house and 11th house so better quality of > > results too. So mars cant be bad for 10th house infact and will > > give result of 10th hosue despites aspecting House C for 10th. > > > > For 11th house as B, Mars goes into House D or 8th house then here > > Mars will aspect 11th house (4th drisit) with more than 4 bindus > > (assuming mars generally has less than 4 bindus) so it will > increase > > the points in WS for 11th house so in Mars antra one can expect > > better results. Now if Mars is with more than 4 bindus then it > will > > be eager to give results as it will be in House D with more than 4 > > bindus, yes but at the same time it will reduce the points of 11th > > house due to its aspect, but it will give timing. > > > > Again we need to check the Samdhamris to Mars, the WS etc etc etc > > before coming to a final conclusion if something is good or bad > > which again is a matter of perception w.r.t. quality of event. > > > > In your mail u have talked of ththis or birht during particular > > thitis, we are checking that in KAS based on relative positioning > of > > planets as due to this fact can planets be allocated or get bindus. > > > > Mars can get 3 bindus only if lagna and other planets are in > > particular combination i.e. w.r.t. each other and Ashtakavarga > > considers this i.e. SAV. So during a particular tithi Moon and > Sun > > are in a particular position. > > > > Adding another layer, sun and moon are natural Samdharmis to > Mars. > > So take our above example of Libra lagna and 7th and 2nd lord in > 8th > > house. Here unless sun and moon are in 2nd house Mars and Moon > and > > Mars and Sun will become natual samdharmis. So say for 11th house > > and assume mars is with 3 bindus if antra of sun comes then sun > will > > give the result of timing for 11th house. > > > > Now assume Mars is in 8th house in Taurus at 10 deg to 16deg40 > then > > from 10 to 13deg20 he will be in navamsa of Moon and from 13deg20 > to > > 16deg40 he will be in navamsa of Sun. So by that virtue also they > > can become functionl samdharmis. > > > > In your mail you have talked of relation with spouse and here we > > check lagna and 7th lords and their status and also from sun and > > moon and venus for male and mars in addition for females. > > > > Its all given in the lesson. > > > > So libra lagna then lagna lord and venus will have important > > relation. Here lagna lord is Venus and 7th lord is mars. So here > > we only know that mars is in 8th house however if Venus is in 12th > > house or 5th house then much better relations with wife. We also > > need to study the same with respt to sun, moon, venus and mars. > The > > infomation is not available in your mail w.r.t. that. > > > > W.r.t. remedies we do not discuss that here. This system deals > with > > one of the most difficult part of Astrology which is timing of > > events and using Krushna's ashtakavarga system and we also are > using > > Krushnas ayanamsa. > > > > Regarding Venus in Scorpio or say in Virgo we have lesson 26 which > > deals with Multiplication factors which can be used for finding > the > > factor to be used it covers a lot of things but for quality and > not > > timing. > > > > Ok, I have run out of time and I hope what I have written is > useful. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " kishore mohan " > > <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this > > house, > > > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > > > > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons > > and > > > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > > > > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as > indication > > of > > > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of > seperation > > > from spouse in hour of need. > > > > > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs > with > > > the lover walking away first. > > > > > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the > > native > > > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on > > the > > > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > > > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > > > > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in > > view > > > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, > > lots of > > > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > > > > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes > the > > > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital > affair, > > if > > > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an > > Arudha > > > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, > the > > > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > > > > > I hope the gurujan on this group agree with my above comments. > > > > > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to > throw > > > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > > > > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm > > them too. > > > > > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > > > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, > > conduct a > > > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > > > > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Kishore: I have seventh lord Venus in Eighth house, and I can vouch for 'Betrayal', as i experienced first hand. I was born November 7, 1968 17:25 Hoshiarpur, Punjab India 31n32,75e54 Rajesh valist, "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this house, > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons and > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as indication of > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of seperation > from spouse in hour of need. > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs with > the lover walking away first. > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the native > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on the > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in view > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, lots of > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes the > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital affair, if > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an Arudha > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, the > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to throw > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm them too. > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, conduct a > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > Kishore patnaik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Dear rajesh, please share you experience if you can in the interest of the science. kishore patnaik groups.com, "rajesh" <rrgupta97> wrote: > > Kishore: > > I have seventh lord Venus in Eighth house, and I can vouch > for 'Betrayal', as i experienced first hand. > > I was born November 7, 1968 17:25 Hoshiarpur, Punjab India > 31n32,75e54 > > Rajesh > > valist, "kishore mohan" kishore_future@i... > wrote: > > > > > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this > house, > > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons > and > > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as indication > of > > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of seperation > > from spouse in hour of need. > > > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs with > > the lover walking away first. > > > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the > native > > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on > the > > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in > view > > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, > lots of > > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes the > > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital affair, > if > > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an > Arudha > > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, the > > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to throw > > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm > them too. > > > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, > conduct a > > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Dear Kishore: i experienced lying, manipulation, dominant behavior (with in-laws), cheating, blackmail, rude and vicious behavior from my ex-wife. Rajesh valist, "kishore mohan" <kishore_future@i...> wrote: > > Dear rajesh, > > > > please share you experience if you can in the interest of the science. > > kishore patnaik > groups.com, "rajesh" <rrgupta97> wrote: > > > > Kishore: > > > > I have seventh lord Venus in Eighth house, and I can vouch > > for 'Betrayal', as i experienced first hand. > > > > I was born November 7, 1968 17:25 Hoshiarpur, Punjab India > > 31n32,75e54 > > > > Rajesh > > > > valist, "kishore mohan" kishore_future@i... > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The eighth house represents betrayal. If a planet occupies this > > house, > > > usually it can point to betrayal subject to other confirmations. > > > > > > If this planet is the 5th Lord, then the betrayal is due to sons > > and > > > if it is 7th Lord, the betrayal is from spouse. > > > > > > However, this betrayal from spouse should not taken as indication > > of > > > extra marital affair but it will often take the form of seperation > > > from spouse in hour of need. > > > > > > It also indicates failures and disappointments in love affairs with > > > the lover walking away first. > > > > > > For those born in punya tithis such as panchami and dasami, the > > native > > > ruled by vayu tatwa and not only saturn will have more effect on > > the > > > native-there by creating some confusion- but also, native will be > > > 'weightless' like air and can not be commanding the situation. > > > > > > Ironically, the spouse will have much respect for the native, in > > view > > > of the sacredness of the tithi, yet the seperation or atleast, > > lots of > > > hot air on the domestic front can be predicted. > > > > > > Of course, there is a high possibility that this betrayal takes the > > > form of infidelity and the spouse having an extra marital affair, > > if > > > the natal Venus of the spouse is in scorpio and scorpio is an > > Arudha > > > house. ( it is more or less confirmed if apart from the above, the > > > spouse was born in a punya tithi.) > > > > > > Now, I request the senior and learned members of the group to throw > > > light on remedies against the 'betrayal' of the spouse. > > > > > > I have two suggestions. The group may kindly condemn or confirm > > them too. > > > > > > 1. Visit Hanuman temple regularly and read Sundara Kanda > > > 2. Ensure that marriage occurs in an akash tithi or if not, > > conduct a > > > mock marriage later on a suitabe akash tithi. > > > > > > I hope the respected members of the forum respond. > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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