Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Hello Heinz, Snakes seem to be cropping up everywhere. I have family that just returned from a visit to Angkor Wat in Cambodia. I saw pictures of the temples with huge smiling faces (finally! happy gods!) and roads with the "good" gods on one side and the "bad" ones on the other. These gods were holding a very long 7 headed snake, who obviously appears to be important in some way. I'd love to learn more about it but haven't had the time to internet search. I'm also remembering that the Sumerian culture had a strong snake figure, too. I wholeheartedly agree with you on the duality issue. I think God himself was split there. He went from omnipotent "wholeness" to "the Good Guy" - a sort of ".6" of the whole compared to the ".4" alloted to "the Bad Guy" devil whose power is less but close enough to require constant vigilance. Instead of being a snake like influence, he's elevated to a power that could take over the earth while God isn't watching. Though, here between you and me, I think the whole devil concept is an obedience tool, yet another limitation just like possessions, habit, and in some cases, relationships. That's the only way I can understand the whole sanyasis thing that John talks about. I can see how liberating it would be to give up everything. I just think you can take it to extremes of interrelationship cruelty that I think is the wrong direction. It's just unkind, and although kindness is a form of bondage too, I think there's not much point without it. Although I agree with you that the "me good, you bad" theory has justified most if not all wars, I suspect that the cause behind many was just greed. The idea being that my stuff is mine, and your stuff is mine too, you're just hoarding it. I'm still pondering your "as if" wave on the physics ocean that I suspect I'll never see a postcard image of. I like the idea of the universe not really existing, but at a little past midnight my time, I think I don't have enough active brain waves to quite grasp it yet. Yea, printers! I'll read it again in daylight and ponder some more tomorrow. Thanks for your contribution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 Dear Mary, The "Angkor Wat" pictures of snake and good vs bad gods represent the mythological "Samudra Manthan", or the ocean-churning, done jointly by demons and gods. Various precious products were revealed during than manthan, including gems, goddess laxmi, the "halaahal" poison, etc. The aim was to get the pot of nectar or the "amrita-kalash". It was during this struggle to get to this pot and to drink the nectar for immortality that demon "Rahu" was beheaded by Vishnu's chakra and he became immortalized in forms of rahu(head) and ketu(the headless body). There are many mythological stories woven around the samudra-manthan. Regards, Ashutosh - "Mary Quinn" <mary1quinn <valist> Thursday, 22 December, 2005 13:54 Re: Re: The snake and consiousness > Hello Heinz, > > Snakes seem to be cropping up everywhere. > > I have family that just returned from a visit to > Angkor Wat in Cambodia. I saw pictures of the temples > with huge smiling faces (finally! happy gods!) and > roads with the "good" gods on one side and the "bad" > ones on the other. These gods were holding a very long > 7 headed snake, who obviously appears to be important > in some way. I'd love to learn more about it but > haven't had the time to internet search. I'm also > remembering that the Sumerian culture had a strong > snake figure, too. > > I wholeheartedly agree with you on the duality issue. > I think God himself was split there. He went from > omnipotent "wholeness" to "the Good Guy" - a sort of > ".6" of the whole compared to the ".4" alloted to "the > Bad Guy" devil whose power is less but close enough to > require constant vigilance. Instead of being a snake > like influence, he's elevated to a power that could > take over the earth while God isn't watching. Though, > here between you and me, I think the whole devil > concept is an obedience tool, yet another limitation > just like possessions, habit, and in some cases, > relationships. > > That's the only way I can understand the whole > sanyasis thing that John talks about. I can see how > liberating it would be to give up everything. I just > think you can take it to extremes of interrelationship > cruelty that I think is the wrong direction. It's just > unkind, and although kindness is a form of bondage > too, I think there's not much point without it. > > Although I agree with you that the "me good, you bad" > theory has justified most if not all wars, I suspect > that the cause behind many was just greed. The idea > being that my stuff is mine, and your stuff is mine > too, you're just hoarding it. > > I'm still pondering your "as if" wave on the physics > ocean that I suspect I'll never see a postcard image > of. I like the idea of the universe not really > existing, but at a little past midnight my time, I > think I don't have enough active brain waves to quite > grasp it yet. Yea, printers! I'll read it again in > daylight and ponder some more tomorrow. > > Thanks for your contribution! > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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