The snake and consiousness

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Namaste Heinz,

 

Welcome to the group! It's nice to have more participants in this

forum.

 

Your points are interesting. But we need to understand your words in

layman's terms. We are not physicists in this group. I believe we

need more familiar metaphors to understand what you're saying.

Nonetheless, from the gist of what you're saying, I think I agree

with you.

 

Most people in the world are still functioning at the basic level of

consciousness. Most people on earth at this stage are still unaware

of the potential of the human condition. We are unfortunately stuck

or are in bondage to our own dogmas and beliefs. But most people

believe this to be their reality, although they are illusions as you

say.

 

The vedic texts, in particular the Srimad Bhagavatam, use more

tangible illustrations to drive the message home. However, the only

reservation I have about these texts is the overemphasis of

renunciation. Most people really are not sanyassis. That's the

reason the message of the texts get ignored in the western culture.

 

In particular, there is a story in the text stating that Venus is the

acharya of the demons. It is only recently that the idea came to me

as to why the author told the story with this image. It appears to

me that Venus represents the senses, the relative existence. The

demons represent beings lower than humans. But there is that demonic

spirit which lurks in all of us.

 

These demons only understand what they see, hear, feel, taste, and

smell. As such, these demons could easily understand the message of

Venus, their acharya. If some humans remain at this sense level,

then those people will never reach unity consciousness, let alone

understand what it is.

 

In other words, Adam and Eve were duped in believing the snake in the

Garden!

 

 

Regards,

 

John R.

 

 

 

 

 

valist, "iamyouheinz" <heinzkrug> wrote:

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> Namaste John and Mary,

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> I've enjoyed reading all your messages on this topic. I believe it

has to do with states of consciousness. Initially in garden Eden

there is a state of unity consciousness (brahmi chetana) where human

and god are one. The snake now divides that into a duality. A

division of judgement between good and bad arises. This is a duality.

By the way, it was the cause of all wars. We are the good ones and

the others are bad ones. They claim that on both sides, always! This

vision of duality is the cause to loose paradise.

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> There is a snake in hinduism and the vedic view as well. It is the

world snake upon whom rests Sri Vishnu on an infinite ocean of

consciousness. Both snakes I interpret as the physical wave function

on the ocean of the unified field of physics. This unified field is

identical to unity consciousness. The wave function as if creates a

universe. The words "as if" are important here, because the world is

not really created. Unity (Sri Vishnu) always continues. Only the

viewpoint changes. That creates the waves out of which pops out our

universe with all the heavenly bodies and the planets that allow us

to do astrology. Part of this creation process is to create a non-

existant duality (Maya=Illusion). The conclusion: Our universe does

not really exist and changing our viewpoints back to unity will bring

us all back into paradise.

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> With a cosmic smile

> Heinz

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