Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 || Om Gurave Namah || Dear John and friends, Even I was told to use the Sg lagna chart for USA. One of the prime reasons for USA being Super power is because of Jupiter. Sg lagna is known for it's excellent planning and administration. Without this growth of USA cannot be explained. Some other factors which I feel are indicative are, 1. Encouragment to education (brain power) governed by Jupiter, One of the prime reasons for it's growth. Strong Mercury in 7th. 2. Bird (Eagle) as it's symbol, Lagna and 10th aspected by Sun the 9th(protector) Lord. Sun governs Birds. 3. Use of extensive use of it's Flag (Ketu) exaltation sign is Sg. 4. Saturn in 10th, Democracy is it's prime focus. 5. "In God we Trust" is it's phrase, Sg is Dharmic sign and acceptance of all religion and favouring none in constitution. (Jupiter and Sg). 6. It's expansive nature. (Jupiter). 7. Aggressive policy in interaction, Mars in 7th aspected by Saturn. etc. But after 144 Years ( 12x12) the return chart is used to analyse, As you have already pointed out the Saturn transit in 8th, If you look at the return chart it can give more clues. Jupiter is exalted in this chart, Showing it's actual rise after 1920. But in Parivartana/exchange with Moon in Pisces. The transit of saturn of Jupiter is more severe than over moon itself in such case. Narayan Dasa of Le has A8. Le MD: 2000-07-08 (4:01:51) - 2010-07-08 (17:34:06) Dividing the period in 3 parts, Since Leo is Shirshodaya sign(1st part) and the Lord Sun is in Gemini a prishtodaya sign(3rd part). The 2nd part will be given sign aspects on Leo. The aspect of Mars and Rahu hence gives much trouble and loss. Even the Sun in 8th is not very helpful. Warm Regards Sanjay P USA Natal Chart July 4, 1776 Time: 18:30:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08" Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Altitude: 40.00 meters USA-144 Return Natal Chart July 7, 1920 Time: 16:11:00 Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08" Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Altitude: 40.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Raudra - Ashadha Tithi: Krishna Sapthami (Sa) (84.83% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (76.49% left) Yoga: Sobhana (Su) (56.64% left) Karana: Vishti (Sa) (69.66% left) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ar) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ta) Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Mars) valist, "John" <jr_esq> wrote: > Robin, > > You stated: > > > > Astrologically speaking...and *please* keep in mind that I am still > a student & that these are honest questions, what is the date & time > that you are using to determine the US chart and also, what is the > value of the ayanamasha that you are using, both for the US chart & > for the hurricane event & how did you determine those values?? > > > We have discussed this topic before in this forum. James Kelleher, a > California jyotishi, researched and found that the last delegate who > signed the Declaration of Independence penned his name at 18:30:00 > EST, July 4, 1776. Using the Lahiri ayanamsha, the lagna for the US > becomes Sagittarius, with the Moon in the nakshatra of Shatabishak. > > I did not cast a prashna for the hurricane event. I used the transit > of Saturn in Cancer with respect to the US Chart to make my analysis > of events. The transit of Saturn on the 8th house from Sagittarius > is considered inauspicious in traditional jyotish principles. > > Regards, > > John R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hi, Has anyone noticed that the US has its worst luck in snake years (1929, 1941, 2001)? How does this fit with jyotish? mike valist, "sanjayprabhakaran" <sanjaychettiar@g...> wrote: > || Om Gurave Namah || > > Dear John and friends, > > Even I was told to use the Sg lagna chart for USA. One of the prime > reasons for USA being Super power is because of Jupiter. > > Sg lagna is known for it's excellent planning and administration. > Without this growth of USA cannot be explained. > > Some other factors which I feel are indicative are, > > 1. Encouragment to education (brain power) governed by Jupiter, One of > the prime reasons for it's growth. Strong Mercury in 7th. > 2. Bird (Eagle) as it's symbol, Lagna and 10th aspected by Sun the > 9th(protector) Lord. Sun governs Birds. > 3. Use of extensive use of it's Flag (Ketu) exaltation sign is Sg. > 4. Saturn in 10th, Democracy is it's prime focus. > 5. "In God we Trust" is it's phrase, Sg is Dharmic sign and acceptance > of all religion and favouring none in constitution. (Jupiter and Sg). > 6. It's expansive nature. (Jupiter). > 7. Aggressive policy in interaction, Mars in 7th aspected by Saturn. > > etc. > > But after 144 Years ( 12x12) the return chart is used to analyse, > > As you have already pointed out the Saturn transit in 8th, If you look > at the return chart it can give more clues. > > Jupiter is exalted in this chart, Showing it's actual rise after 1920. > But in Parivartana/exchange with Moon in Pisces. The transit of > saturn of Jupiter is more severe than over moon itself in such case. > Narayan Dasa of Le has A8. > > Le MD: 2000-07-08 (4:01:51) - 2010-07-08 (17:34:06) > > Dividing the period in 3 parts, Since Leo is Shirshodaya sign(1st > part) and the Lord Sun is in Gemini a prishtodaya sign(3rd part). The > 2nd part will be given sign aspects on Leo. The aspect of Mars and > Rahu hence gives much trouble and loss. Even the Sun in 8th is not > very helpful. > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > > USA > > Natal Chart > > July 4, 1776 > Time: 18:30:00 > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08" > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA > Altitude: 40.00 meters > > > > USA-144 Return > > Natal Chart > > July 7, 1920 > Time: 16:11:00 > Time Zone: 5:00:00 (West of GMT) > Place: 75 W 09' 51", 39 N 57' 08" > Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA > Altitude: 40.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Raudra - Ashadha > Tithi: Krishna Sapthami (Sa) (84.83% left) > Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) > Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (76.49% left) > Yoga: Sobhana (Su) (56.64% left) > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (69.66% left) > Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ar) > Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ta) > Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Mars) > > > > > > > > > valist, "John" <jr_esq> wrote: > > Robin, > > > > You stated: > > > > > > Astrologically speaking...and *please* keep in mind that I am still > > a student & that these are honest questions, what is the date & time > > that you are using to determine the US chart and also, what is the > > value of the ayanamasha that you are using, both for the US chart & > > for the hurricane event & how did you determine those values?? > > > > > We have discussed this topic before in this forum. James Kelleher, a > > California jyotishi, researched and found that the last delegate who > > signed the Declaration of Independence penned his name at 18:30:00 > > EST, July 4, 1776. Using the Lahiri ayanamsha, the lagna for the US > > becomes Sagittarius, with the Moon in the nakshatra of Shatabishak. > > > > I did not cast a prashna for the hurricane event. I used the transit > > of Saturn in Cancer with respect to the US Chart to make my analysis > > of events. The transit of Saturn on the 8th house from Sagittarius > > is considered inauspicious in traditional jyotish principles. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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