Guest guest Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 The bhagvad gita is pure truth. Pure and unfair! You don't have a choice says krishna. Krishna says that he as supersoul within directs the wanderings of the living entity who is seated on the machine made of material elements. He also says -- bewildered by the 3 modes,the soul thinks himself to be the DOER of activities which are in fact carried out by material nature. So you're not the real doer.you are just misidentifying with the identity imposed on you -- just like being so involved in watching a movie,that you start identifying with a particular character.But you aren't really doing anything.The script is already written.You cannot change it. The big question -- If god is really doing everything,if everything is actually happening by force,-- what justification is there for the individual soul to be made to suffer results of karma? It's like this -- god does everything,he makes you believe that you are the doer.Then he says -- you have made mistakes -- you suffer for it.Is this fair? Then god says --- look here,I'll tell you how to escape karma and get out of maya -- just detach yourself from everything,follow a life of self denial and self torture,keep tolerating the assaults of material nature and besides this,surrender to me.Bow before me with complete humility.Beg for my mercy.Also keep singing my praises and flattering me.Keep on glorifying me ---- if you are fortunate,I might take pity on you one day. ISKCON devotees are doing exactly this -- they beg "O merciful lord,I know I am suffering my karma.I deserve to suffer much more but you have reduced my misery.Thank you,I am grateful. The Hare krishna people argue that even if god is actually doing everything,you deserve to suffer karma because you CHOSE to fall into maya. This brings up a question --- if the soul is originally sat cit ananda --eternal,ALL KNOWING & blissful, Why would he fall into maya in the first place? The HKs tell you that the lord does not want you to be trapped in maya but lets you be deluded as he does not want to interfere with the free will of the soul (the soul being qualitatively similiar with the lord has this quality of free will). Really?? But once you are deluded,he takes away free will itself,controls you like a puppet on a string and makes you responsible for HIS ACTIONS. If he were really bothered about your free will,he would provide you with an enjoyable and trouble free maya and leave you alone. It's like this -- if there is a dungeon and you are curious about what is inside,you look to me for advice,I tell you-- well! go in and have a look if you please,it's your choice. Once you walk in,I clamp the door shut and say ha ha you walked in of your own free will -- now you are under my control.Then I inflict saddam like tortures on you and let you come out only after you sing my glories and beg for my mercy.If I did this wouldn't I be a sadist? Krishna says --- "material nature is working under my direction" The scriptures tell you that material nature is intrinsically predatory.The arrangement itself is such that one species preys on another and might prevails. The same krishna tells you to follow the path of non-violence,truthfulness,austerity,etc. ---- if you do this,you will become a victim.you will be exploited. I am not questioning the validity of the gita.I know that it is the truth.But then isn't it a truth that is imposed on you without justification? THE WAYS OF GOD ARE STRANGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.