The Devil's Bliss

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Hello John,

 

I seldom respond to your posts, but I enjoy every one

of them.

 

Had a thought today thought (yeah, I get thoughts

occasionally), and here it is:

 

Following your argument of Lucifer forseeing the

future and choosing to fight a lost battle, why assume

hell is a place of foreboding and suffering? I mean,

those are words that could describe small degrees of

suffering as well as large, but why choose it unless

there's an illusion of victory there?

 

I mean, couldn't hell be a place of falseness? False

ego. False victory. Almost getting, but not quite. Can

taste success on the tip of your tongue but can't

quite grasp it? Lucifer then could forsee victory and

attainment of his goals, but only realize the loss

when he achieves dominion in hell (assuming for this

arguement the existence of such a 'place') and

discovers that without surrender of ego he can never

win? Yet he IS ego, so can never surrender it and

never achieve the peace, or the Heaven, of

fulfillment?

 

A hell without fire and brimstone...an emotional and

mental pain.

 

That's my thought. I'm tired now. Takes it out of me.

I think I'll go lie down.

 

Yeah, I'm joking around.

 

--- John <jr_esq wrote:

 

> To all members:

>

> A few years ago, Bill Moyers was discussing

> philosophy with a guy named

> Campbell, who was knowledgeable about world culture

> and religions.

> They got around to talking about the devil's peace

> of mind in hell.

> Moyers was saying that hell is a place of foreboding

> and suffering.

> However, the only thing that sustains Satan is his

> memory of Love while

> he was in heaven.

>

> In the Christian tradition, Satan used to be the

> most beautiful and

> powerful Archangel named Lucifer. Perhaps due to

> pride and ambition,

> he led the other angels to rebel against the other

> powers in heaven.

> Needless to say, Lucifer lost and was banished to

> hell.

>

> This brings us to speculate if Lucifer knew ahead of

> time that he was

> going to lose the rebellion. As a former archangel,

> he too had the

> power of foreseeing the future.

>

> If this was the case, then he knew that he was going

> to lose and that

> he was going to be banished. It appears to me that

> he willingly took

> this option because it was available. It was the

> only option where he

> can be the ruler of the realm, albeit of suffering

> or perdition. In

> other words, it was the ultimate ego trip.

>

> Regards,

>

> John R.