Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Hello Das,list On this same note - My mother used to tell us anecdotes from the puranas - wish I had paid more attention then.... One such story was about king Ravan of the Ramayana fame. Ravan we all know was a true and a great Shiva bhakt. He did his tapasya to the utmost that the Lord was compelled to give Ravan all that he asked for - immortality etc etc. But Ravan was not appeased.He asked Shiva for the ultimate - His own Shakti- the feminine potency/energy. And the Lord gave his Shakti - to Ravan with one caveat that he should never put the kumbha- a vessel - holding the Shakti on earth/ground. Note: Shiva without his Shakti is Shava -lifeless Anyway Ravan carried the kumbha and journeyed back to earth. Shiva was panic stricken and sought out Vishnu to help him get his Shakti back. Vishnu always the shape shifter and very aware of the caveat induced in Ravan a call to nature. Ravan was forced to put the kumbha holding shakti on the ground. The kumbha/Shakti disappeared into the earth only to be found by king Janaka later when he ploughed the famine stricken fields. And that is how the story of Sita comes into play. She is shakti incarnate born of the earth and later became one with the earth. Anyway,in southern India there is a colloquial parody deriding Ravan's inability to hold himself. I have always been fascinated with this aspect of Ravan - the absolute and insatiable devotee, a great patron of the arts, an artist himself, indulgent - perfect paradigm for kali yuga and then his fall. Rama is too perfect,too noble - theres no comparison. Its the gods who are always the tricksters. Like flies are we to the gods , they kill us for their sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Hullo Ranjiaiyer, Thanks for finally clarifying the connecting point of Ravan`s obsession with Sita/ Shakti. I was missing this link so far & now I am begining to understand the reason for the Bow of Shiva being neccessary for the Svayamvar ceremony of Sita. So putting judgement aside & speculating as always, His Shakti, which Shiva gave Ravan manifested in the form of a Kumbha ( ego ). I guess at the risk of appearing decietful, Vishnu simply indicated to Ravan that even the greatest have to share the same laws of existance as the humblest & the Ego ( kumbha ) can become cumbersome in such circumstances. Ravan was nearly as powerful as Shiva himself but he couldnt have Shiva`s Shakti because to possess this one must be completely free of desire & ego as only Shiva is. With ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility, without which there is only destruction. So Ravan got a second chance at aquiring Shakti on the human octave, as the wife of Ram. He misused his powers to achieve this. He was on this mega ego trip again & none of his amazing & supernatural siddhis, could support him in the face of his misguided ego. I wonder what might have been the result if Ravan had humbly surrendered his ego & worshiped with devotion at the feet of Sita ? I presume that like Hanumanji, he would probably have had a better chance of recieving her ( Shakti `s ) grace in this way. But I guess now, we will never know for sure........... Hari Om ! Shabnam ---- ranjiaiyer 05/10/06 08:44:52 valist Re: The Devil's Bliss - Ravan et al Hello Das,list On this same note - My mother used to tell us anecdotes from the puranas - wish I had paid more attention then.... One such story was about king Ravan of the Ramayana fame. Ravan we all know was a true and a great Shiva bhakt. He did his tapasya to the utmost that the Lord was compelled to give Ravan all that he asked for - immortality etc etc. But Ravan was not appeased.He asked Shiva for the ultimate - His own Shakti- the feminine potency/energy. And the Lord gave his Shakti - to Ravan with one caveat that he should never put the kumbha- a vessel - holding the Shakti on earth/ground. Note: Shiva without his Shakti is Shava -lifeless Anyway Ravan carried the kumbha and journeyed back to earth. Shiva was panic stricken and sought out Vishnu to help him get his Shakti back. Vishnu always the shape shifter and very aware of the caveat induced in Ravan a call to nature. Ravan was forced to put the kumbha holding shakti on the ground. The kumbha/Shakti disappeared into the earth only to be found by king Janaka later when he ploughed the famine stricken fields. And that is how the story of Sita comes into play. She is shakti incarnate born of the earth and later became one with the earth. Anyway,in southern India there is a colloquial parody deriding Ravan's inability to hold himself. I have always been fascinated with this aspect of Ravan - the absolute and insatiable devotee, a great patron of the arts, an artist himself, indulgent - perfect paradigm for kali yuga and then his fall. Rama is too perfect,too noble - theres no comparison. Its the gods who are always the tricksters. Like flies are we to the gods , they kill us for their sport. <*> valist/ <*> valist <*> Your Attachment: (image/jpeg) 23b.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (image/gif) imstp_heads_en.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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