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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Zoran,

For the benefit of all readers, I shall begin with this small prayer

to my Lord " OM KRISHNAM JAGANNATHAM NATWA SANJAYA DAIVAGYA".

 

VIMSOTTARI DASA

 

The Vimsottari (Lit: 120) Dasa is the King of the Ududasa and is

preferred by all traditional astrologers due to the personal recommendation

of Maharishi Parasara on the grounds that it is the only one (Other than

Sandhya Dasa) having a period of 120 Years which is the Param Ayus of Man.

Unlike other Udu Dasa it is fully balanced as it takes all the Nakshetra

with equal weightage, starting with Krittika (3) for the Sun and in the

order of the Sun, Moon, Mars, Rahu, Jupiter, Saturn, Mercury, Ketu & Venus

having periods of 6, 10, 7, 18. 16, 19, 17, 7 & 20 Years respectively.

Jupiter is the Guru of the Dasa with the periods of the Sun and Moon equal

to that of Jupiter (6 + 10 = 16).

 

Readers are familiar with the calculations and I shall leave this

out. The Dasa's of the planets starting from that occupied by the Moon are

also called Janma (Birth), Sampat (Wealth) etc. The 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th

Dasa are generally considered evil. Some astrologers add that the 1st, 3rd,

5th and 7th in Kali yuga refer to Balarista (infantile death), Alpa Ayus

(Short life), Madhya Ayus( Middle Life) and Poorna Ayus (Long Life)

respectively. Some astrologers also count the 1st, 3rd, 5th & 7th stars

lordship from that occupied by the Lagna for determining health instead of

Moon Star ( This is not agreed to by most). However, transit of the Moon is

always reckoned from the birth Moon Star.

 

The Dasa of the 2nd & 7th Lords or planets in these houses from

Lagna, Paka Lagna or Arudha Lagna can cause a lot of Pain and Suffering.

Hence Maha Mritunjaya Japa (8000 to be completed in 40 Days) is advised

during the Vimsottari Dasa/ Antar of the planets so placed or Lords of 2/7

houses.

 

The dasa of the lords of the trines is generally good while those of

Dusthana (3, 6,8 &12 houses) is bad. The Upachaya (3,6 &11) are houses of

growth and their Lords give growth after perseverence in Kali Yuga. The

Lords of Kendra (Quadrants) generally give good results. Kendradhipatya

Dosha applies to planets owing the quadrants. This Dosha ONLY results in

reduction of effects and not their alteration. Natural Benefics (Jup, Ven,

Merc, Moon) owning Kendra become less benefic/ neutral while natural malefic

owning Kendra houses (1,4,7,10 Houses) lose their sting/ become less

malefic. If the the planet is also placed in its own sign, then all malefic

results are lost and MahaPurusha Yoga results. Natural Benefics owning

Quadrants, if also placed in Quadrants or trines give Rajyoga whereas

natural malefics owning Quadrants if placed in a dusthana give Rajyoga.

 

The Sun, Moon and Lagna form the tripod of life. Thus, the results

of the Dasa Planet should also be examined from the Sun, as the antardasa

planet is also examined from the Moon and the Pratyantar dasa planet is

examined from the Lagna.

 

Combustion of planets cannot occur when they are retrograde (except

Venus which revolves in the opposite direction i.e. Venus cannot be combust

when in Direct motion). Combustion of Yogakarak planets ruins the fortune

whereas the combustion of evil planets results in Rajyoga. If there is

Pravrajya Yoga (Renunciation etc.) indicated by the conjunction of four or

more planets, then the combustion is a material blessing as it destroys the

Pravrajya Yoga and results in good fortune. (Readers can examine this in the

Chart of Filmstar Amitabh Bachchan, Hyder Ali etc).

 

Retrogrades have tremendous "Chesta Bala" and they can put in a lot

of effort or the native has to put in a lot of effort to achive the

indications of the retrograde planet. The retrograde planet normally

reverses the indications of the house it is in. It is very strong being full

of Rays and its indications are sure to occur. Thus, if retrograde in the

11th house, gains may be delayed or altogether denied. If retrograde in the

fifth, the mind/children (one normally) will suffer.

 

This is the first lot on the effects of the Dasa Planet. I hope

readers can contribute charts wherein these principles can be verified.

 

Best Wishes,

Sanjay Rath

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You Wrote: -

> This massage had difficulty in sending so I am resending it,

> Dear Sanjay and list members,please kindly read it.

> Regards,

> Zoran

>

> > Dear Sanjay,

> > Yes,your contribution in promotion of Arudha padas has been very

> > valuble.Five years ago, I learnt all the technical details of those

> > arudhas.I applied them at that

> time

> > with success.However,

> > Your contribution in their use in divisional charts,apart from upapada

> > for marriage,has a complete refference in BPHS,and I have tested it on

> > more than 100 charts so far.The results are fascinating.

> > It would be very kind of you,and I am very interested to hear the list

> > of

> rules

> > for Vimshottari

> > effects of dashas-bhuktis.I am sure that all list members will wellcome

> > it. While we are discussing dashas,I am using an opportunity to ask a

> > question.I have used successfully Yogini dasha so far,for covering

> > general purposes.My expereience was that it particullarly gives good

> > effects on timing events of marriage and children.Is there a specific

> > use of it? Love and regards, Zoran

> > SRath wrote:

> >

 

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Zoran,

Additional Views:-

>

> Natural Benefics owning

>

> > Quadrants, if also placed in Quadrants or trines give Rajyoga whereas

> > natural malefics owning Quadrants if placed in a dusthana give Rajyoga.

> >

>

> I was taught that natural benefic owning quadrants if placed in quadrants

> are slightly unfavourable.

> and I have seen in practice jupiter for gemini/pisces/sagittarius/virgo

> ascendent gives slightly unfoavourable effects in his dasha if placed in

> quadrant.Could you explain?Also,neecha saturn as yogakaraka for taurus

> lagna,has given bad effects in his dasha in several cases.

Sanjay: They are not unfavourable as they generate Mahapurusha Yoga.

However, we cannot ignore the Badhak Lordship of the seventh lord and this

will also come by. So, Jupiter could be slightly unfavourable for Mercurial

Lagna as Mercury for Jupiterian Lagna due to this Badhak Lordship.

Saturn ia also the Badhak for Taurus. The point is suo moto Saturn

gives Rajyoga and such a placement can make him very destructive. Whichever

planet conjoins it can see the signification destroyed. In one case of

Taurus Lagna with Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th house, the native became

the Chief Secretary, but also lost his only son (drowning incident). Thus

Jupiter signifying children/ sons was destroyed as he rose to the pinnacle

of his profession. He has too many enemies and Jealous people around.

 

> > Retrogrades have tremendous "Chesta Bala" and they can put in a

> > lot

> > of effort or the native has to put in a lot of effort to achive the

> > indications of the retrograde planet. The retrograde planet normally

> > reverses the indications of the house it is in. It is very strong being

> > full of Rays and its indications are sure to occur. Thus, if retrograde

> > in the 11th house, gains may be delayed or altogether denied. If

> > retrograde in the fifth, the mind/children (one normally) will suffer.

>

> My friend has retrograde exalted jupiter in 2.house(gemini).In jupiter

> antara he fetched the enormous

> gains.He was born wealthy,and is wealthy.He has very good job.Jupiter is

> lord of 10.and good spouse

> (lord of 7.)My another friend is aries lagna,with mars and saturn in

> 4.house.Saturn is retrograde.She was born in extremelly wealthy family,has

> a lot of movable assets and gains,as lord of 11.I do not see how saturn

> has reversed effects.However,as lord ogf 10.she never had independent

> career,but participated ih her husband career who was very,

> very,successful.Neecha mars could also lead to lack of own career.In my

> chart,mercury is retrograde in 2,house,and I am not poor,and see no

> reversed effects in 2.house matters.I agree that retrogrades have

> tremendous strenght.Parashara gives them ful measure(60 rupas).Could you

> explain what you mean my"Reversed" effect,please?

 

Sanjay: Zoran, the retrograde planet is full of Rays and very very strong.

Thus, it behaves like an independant Sun..For example Jupiter when

retrograde will behave like a Yellow Sun while a retrograde Saturn will show

light like a blue Sun. I have retrograde Saturn in the 11th house and it is

also the atmakaraka indicating that I will follow the traditional line of my

forefathers. Inspite of all the efforts of my family to make a good

"engineer" out of me, I somehow continued with Jyotish. Saturn is in the

11th house and the hopes have been reversed during its period. Reversed

means "Changed". For example in Saturn-Saturn we had a new Factory and a

very high status, but in Saturn-Ketu the situation was reversed and it was

lost.

In both the examples you quote money matters that are best seen from

the Arudha Lagna instead of Lagna. Ask the first friend about personal

matters concerning the second house like choise of food, appetite, family

affairs etc. While the second could have seen sorrow, but to what extent she

will disclose is to be seen. When is your Mercury Dasa period? Please give

the three charts and the Dasa for further discussion on these finer points.

 

 

Best regards,

Sanjay Rath

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Sanjay,

 

I must tell you that I lost a very good friend who had Virgo rising during

her Jupiter mahadasa. So I would say her Jupiter was more than "slightly"

malefic. Also, another friend lost his mother...same story.

 

I am not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to bring forth

another side of the story.

 

Gangadhara Girish

Gary Gomes

Swami Kampananda

 

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> SRath <SRath

> Zoran Radosavljevic <satya

> Cc: GJList <gjlist; SJVC <sjvc >

> [sjvc] Re: Vimsottari Dasa

> Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:30 PM

>

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Zoran,

> Additional Views:-

> >

> > Natural Benefics owning

> >

> > > Quadrants, if also placed in Quadrants or trines give Rajyoga whereas

> > > natural malefics owning Quadrants if placed in a dusthana give

Rajyoga.

> > >

> >

> > I was taught that natural benefic owning quadrants if placed in

quadrants

> > are slightly unfavourable.

> > and I have seen in practice jupiter for gemini/pisces/sagittarius/virgo

> > ascendent gives slightly unfoavourable effects in his dasha if placed

in

> > quadrant.Could you explain?Also,neecha saturn as yogakaraka for taurus

> > lagna,has given bad effects in his dasha in several cases.

> Sanjay: They are not unfavourable as they generate Mahapurusha Yoga.

> However, we cannot ignore the Badhak Lordship of the seventh lord and

this

> will also come by. So, Jupiter could be slightly unfavourable for

Mercurial

> Lagna as Mercury for Jupiterian Lagna due to this Badhak Lordship.

> Saturn ia also the Badhak for Taurus. The point is suo moto Saturn

> gives Rajyoga and such a placement can make him very destructive.

Whichever

> planet conjoins it can see the signification destroyed. In one case of

> Taurus Lagna with Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th house, the native became

> the Chief Secretary, but also lost his only son (drowning incident). Thus

> Jupiter signifying children/ sons was destroyed as he rose to the

pinnacle

> of his profession. He has too many enemies and Jealous people around.

>

> > > Retrogrades have tremendous "Chesta Bala" and they can put in

a

> > > lot

> > > of effort or the native has to put in a lot of effort to achive the

> > > indications of the retrograde planet. The retrograde planet normally

> > > reverses the indications of the house it is in. It is very strong

being

> > > full of Rays and its indications are sure to occur. Thus, if

retrograde

> > > in the 11th house, gains may be delayed or altogether denied. If

> > > retrograde in the fifth, the mind/children (one normally) will

suffer.

> >

> > My friend has retrograde exalted jupiter in 2.house(gemini).In jupiter

> > antara he fetched the enormous

> > gains.He was born wealthy,and is wealthy.He has very good job.Jupiter

is

> > lord of 10.and good spouse

> > (lord of 7.)My another friend is aries lagna,with mars and saturn in

> > 4.house.Saturn is retrograde.She was born in extremelly wealthy

family,has

> > a lot of movable assets and gains,as lord of 11.I do not see how saturn

> > has reversed effects.However,as lord ogf 10.she never had independent

> > career,but participated ih her husband career who was very,

> > very,successful.Neecha mars could also lead to lack of own career.In my

> > chart,mercury is retrograde in 2,house,and I am not poor,and see no

> > reversed effects in 2.house matters.I agree that retrogrades have

> > tremendous strenght.Parashara gives them ful measure(60 rupas).Could

you

> > explain what you mean my"Reversed" effect,please?

>

> Sanjay: Zoran, the retrograde planet is full of Rays and very very

strong.

> Thus, it behaves like an independant Sun..For example Jupiter when

> retrograde will behave like a Yellow Sun while a retrograde Saturn will

show

> light like a blue Sun. I have retrograde Saturn in the 11th house and it

is

> also the atmakaraka indicating that I will follow the traditional line of

my

> forefathers. Inspite of all the efforts of my family to make a good

> "engineer" out of me, I somehow continued with Jyotish. Saturn is in the

> 11th house and the hopes have been reversed during its period. Reversed

> means "Changed". For example in Saturn-Saturn we had a new Factory and a

> very high status, but in Saturn-Ketu the situation was reversed and it

was

> lost.

> In both the examples you quote money matters that are best seen from

> the Arudha Lagna instead of Lagna. Ask the first friend about personal

> matters concerning the second house like choise of food, appetite, family

> affairs etc. While the second could have seen sorrow, but to what extent

she

> will disclose is to be seen. When is your Mercury Dasa period? Please

give

> the three charts and the Dasa for further discussion on these finer

points.

>

>

> Best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

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Dear Sanjay,

 

> Sanjay: They are not unfavourable as they generate Mahapurusha Yoga.

> However, we cannot ignore the Badhak Lordship of the seventh lord and this

> will also come by. So, Jupiter could be slightly unfavourable for Mercurial

> Lagna as Mercury for Jupiterian Lagna due to this Badhak Lordship.

> Saturn ia also the Badhak for Taurus. The point is suo moto Saturn

> gives Rajyoga and such a placement can make him very destructive. Whichever

> planet conjoins it can see the signification destroyed. In one case of

> Taurus Lagna with Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th house, the native became

> the Chief Secretary, but also lost his only son (drowning incident). Thus

> Jupiter signifying children/ sons was destroyed as he rose to the pinnacle

> of his profession. He has too many enemies and Jealous people around.

 

Now,it is all clear.That is exactly what I meant and observed.

 

> In both the examples you quote money matters that are best seen from

> the Arudha Lagna instead of Lagna. Ask the first friend about personal

> matters concerning the second house like choise of food, appetite, family

> affairs etc. While the second could have seen sorrow, but to what extent she

> will disclose is to be seen. When is your Mercury Dasa period? Please give

> the three charts and the Dasa for further discussion on these finer points.

 

I"ll confine to my own chart,so that your vimshottari dasha hints and

explanations

may continue as soon as possible,without distracting to another subjects.I think

that you

still have my data,but if not I can send them again.As you could see in my chart

mercury is

in 2.house in capricorn RX and Jupiter is in 10.house Rx in virgo.I run mercury

mahadasha from

1987.(lahiri ayanamsha)One point that I see now,is that indeed mercury's dasha

didn't take me towards

material values,and earning money but towards spiritual,and academic knoweldge

and jyotish.Is this

the "reversed"effects?Could you please explain Retro JUpiter in 10.house?Could

it take my activities towards

spiritual values rather than material success and power.I had many opportunities

to pursue career and profitable

jobs,but I alwyas remained within the limit,and decided to spend my time for

knowledge.Is this the "reverse" case effect,

or perhaps the infulence of ketu.If you don't have my birthdata,I"ll send

them.Could you please forward my chart (from your

GJ) since my software has not that option.

Regards and love,

Zoran

 

 

 

>

> Best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Zoran,

You wrote:-

> mercury is

> in 2.house in capricorn RX and Jupiter is in 10.house Rx in virgo.I run

> mercury mahadasha from 1987.(lahiri ayanamsha)One point that I see now,is

> that indeed mercury's dasha didn't take me towards material values,and

> earning money but towards spiritual,and academic knoweldge and jyotish.Is

> this the "reversed"effects?Could you please explain Retro JUpiter in

> 10.house?Could it take my activities towards spiritual values rather than

> material success and power.I had many opportunities to pursue career and

> profitable

> jobs,but I alwyas remained within the limit,and decided to spend my time

> for knowledge.Is this the "reverse" case effect, or perhaps the infulence

> of ketu.If you don't have my birthdata,I"ll send them.Could you please

> forward my chart (from your GJ) since my software has not that option.

 

You jump too many points. The reasons for Mercury giving good

results is very very simple. The Lagna is Sagittarius and the Arudha lagna

is Pisces. Now study the placement of these planets . Jupiter is the Lord of

AL and is retrograde in the 7th house i.e. you will have a strong influence

of Jupiter in your external personality in this World of Mayaa. You will

prefer the company of learned ones and saints and will also be looked upon

as one. Both AL & Lagna are in Jupiterian signs. Mercury is the dispositor

of the lagna Lord in the second house and you will not live upto the

expectations of your Family lineage and will adopt the ways you prefer.

Mercury generates SIMHASANA YOGA in your Chart and is also placed in the

11th from the AL..Mercury Dasa is going to prove to be fantastic

financially. But then where is your focus? Is it in the 2nd house? No,

instead it is on the 8th house (Occult knowledge). Thus the focus on family

etc dwindles as money is adequate to take care of all wants. Thus, mercury

gave excellent results as it was the badhak in the 2nd and its evil was

reversed to good results. However, Jupiter rules your childhood (Lagna &

4th) and being retrograde in the tenth only promises hardship in Childhood.

Jupiter becomes totally benefic as the kendradhipatya Dosha is fully

cancelled, but its retrogression is bad..reverses the indications of Good

effects and only bad follows.

Now, Natural Benefics enhance the sign they aspect at the cost of

the sign they are placed in, but..this is also reversed in retrogression.

The 4th is badly damaged as the tenth is helped.

Reversal is a very broad word.

 

Best Wishes,

Sanjay Rath

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Dear Sanjay,

 

Jupiter is the Lord of

 

> AL and is retrograde in the 7th house i.e. you will have a strong influence

> of Jupiter in your external personality in this World of Mayaa. You will

> prefer the company of learned ones and saints and will also be looked upon

> as one. Both AL & Lagna are in Jupiterian signs.

 

I totally forgot to look at arudha lagna.You are completelly right.Sorry...

 

> Mercury is the dispositor

> of the lagna Lord in the second house and you will not live upto the

> expectations of your Family lineage and will adopt the ways you prefer.

> Mercury generates SIMHASANA YOGA in your Chart and is also placed in the

> 11th from the AL..Mercury Dasa is going to prove to be fantastic

> financially. But then where is your focus? Is it in the 2nd house? No,

> instead it is on the 8th house (Occult knowledge).

 

If I understood rigthly yoe mention the 8.house due to a mercury's drishti on

it?

 

 

> However, Jupiter rules your childhood (Lagna &

> 4th) and being retrograde in the tenth only promises hardship in Childhood.

> Jupiter becomes totally benefic as the kendradhipatya Dosha is fully

> cancelled, but its retrogression is bad..reverses the indications of Good

> effects and only bad follows.

 

Well I do not understand this completelly.I was in jupiter antara and it was

very good.

I was also in mercury/ketu dasha and ketu is in yuti with jupiter.The best

period in my life.

I am not uneducated,nor I see the bad effects of Jupiter.Could you explain what

you meant?

Why is jupiter kendraadhipatya dosha fully cancelled.Lord of kendra placed in

kendra?Shouldn't

it be in trine to cancel the dosha,or in 4./lagna to give mahapurusha yoga?

 

> Now, Natural Benefics enhance the sign they aspect at the cost of

> the sign they are placed in, but..this is also reversed in retrogression.

> The 4th is badly damaged as the tenth is helped.

> Reversal is a very broad word.

 

Does it mean that jupiter aspect its own 4.house is bad?I didn't experience the

bad

effects of 4.house signifiations so far.My mother is very special,religious

person,very human

and nice.I do not understand what you meant by bad effect of retro jupiter's

aspect on 4.house.

I didn't experience significantly bad effects in 4.house significations.

IS THERE SOMETHING GOOD ARISING FROM RETROGRADE PLANET,DUE TO ITS

FULL RAYS/STRENGHT?

You are always here to help us in our "growing up" in jyotish.

With thanks,

Zoran

 

 

 

 

>

> Best Wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

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Dear Zoran,

What is the first reading about the 4th lord in the 10th house? It

tells us that the mother shall be an extrovert and there will be separation

between the parents. Now, Jupiter is retrograde, so say the reversed

reading.

Now what exactly are the evils of Jupiter? As the lord of AL & Lagna

it guarantees yoga in its periods, but being retrograde in Virgo this will

always be restricted by spiritualism. The fourth house also rules home,

hometown and Motherland..What period are you running now? Are the planets

linked to Jupiter?

As regards full rays, it starts behaving like the Sun i.e

independantly and if beneficial can raise a person to dizzying heights.

Fortunately, both Jupiter and Mercury are beneficial from AL. This is a

clear indication of good Karma of the Past and the blessings of your Guru.

Who is your Guru? Does he have some special powers?

 

Best Wishes,

Sanjay Rath

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> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Jupiter is the Lord of

>

> > AL and is retrograde in the 7th house i.e. you will have a strong

> > influence of Jupiter in your external personality in this World of

> > Mayaa. You will prefer the company of learned ones and saints and will

> > also be looked upon as one. Both AL & Lagna are in Jupiterian signs.

>

> I totally forgot to look at arudha lagna.You are completelly

> right.Sorry...

>

> > Mercury is the dispositor

> > of the lagna Lord in the second house and you will not live upto the

> > expectations of your Family lineage and will adopt the ways you prefer.

> > Mercury generates SIMHASANA YOGA in your Chart and is also placed in the

> > 11th from the AL..Mercury Dasa is going to prove to be fantastic

> > financially. But then where is your focus? Is it in the 2nd house? No,

> > instead it is on the 8th house (Occult knowledge).

>

> If I understood rigthly yoe mention the 8.house due to a mercury's drishti

> on it?

>

>

> > However, Jupiter rules your childhood (Lagna &

> > 4th) and being retrograde in the tenth only promises hardship in

> > Childhood. Jupiter becomes totally benefic as the kendradhipatya Dosha

> > is fully cancelled, but its retrogression is bad..reverses the

> > indications of Good effects and only bad follows.

>

> Well I do not understand this completelly.I was in jupiter antara and it

> was very good.

> I was also in mercury/ketu dasha and ketu is in yuti with jupiter.The best

> period in my life.

> I am not uneducated,nor I see the bad effects of Jupiter.Could you explain

> what you meant?

> Why is jupiter kendraadhipatya dosha fully cancelled.Lord of kendra placed

> in kendra?Shouldn't it be in trine to cancel the dosha,or in 4./lagna to

> give mahapurusha yoga?

>

> > Now, Natural Benefics enhance the sign they aspect at the cost

> > of

> > the sign they are placed in, but..this is also reversed in

> > retrogression. The 4th is badly damaged as the tenth is helped.

> > Reversal is a very broad word.

>

> Does it mean that jupiter aspect its own 4.house is bad?I didn't

> experience the bad

> effects of 4.house signifiations so far.My mother is very

> special,religious person,very human and nice.I do not understand what you

> meant by bad effect of retro jupiter's aspect on 4.house.

> I didn't experience significantly bad effects in 4.house significations.

> IS THERE SOMETHING GOOD ARISING FROM RETROGRADE PLANET,DUE TO ITS FULL

> RAYS/STRENGHT?

> You are always here to help us in our "growing up" in jyotish.

> With thanks,

> Zoran

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Sanjay Rath

> > ----------------

 

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Dear Gary,

Yes, the Badhak and 7th lordship caused the deaths. We cannot attribute

the deaths to kendradhipatya dosha. To confirm this, we need to see in how

many cases has tenth lord Moon given bad results for Libra Lagna or check in

all such cases where the 7th lordship is also not involved.

Nice to hear from you,

Sanjay

 

Crystal Expectation <crystalx

<sjvc >

Wednesday, May 26, 1999 09:04 Rath

[sjvc] Re: Vimsottari Dasa

 

 

>Sanjay,

>

>I must tell you that I lost a very good friend who had Virgo rising during

>her Jupiter mahadasa. So I would say her Jupiter was more than "slightly"

>malefic. Also, another friend lost his mother...same story.

>

>I am not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to bring forth

>another side of the story.

>

>Gangadhara Girish

>Gary Gomes

>Swami Kampananda

>

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>> SRath <SRath

>> Zoran Radosavljevic <satya

>> Cc: GJList <gjlist; SJVC <sjvc >

>> [sjvc] Re: Vimsottari Dasa

>> Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:30 PM

>>

>> Jaya Jagannath

>> Dear Zoran,

>> Additional Views:-

>> >

>> > Natural Benefics owning

>> >

>> > > Quadrants, if also placed in Quadrants or trines give Rajyoga whereas

>> > > natural malefics owning Quadrants if placed in a dusthana give

>Rajyoga.

>> > >

>> >

>> > I was taught that natural benefic owning quadrants if placed in

>quadrants

>> > are slightly unfavourable.

>> > and I have seen in practice jupiter for gemini/pisces/sagittarius/virgo

>> > ascendent gives slightly unfoavourable effects in his dasha if placed

>in

>> > quadrant.Could you explain?Also,neecha saturn as yogakaraka for taurus

>> > lagna,has given bad effects in his dasha in several cases.

>> Sanjay: They are not unfavourable as they generate Mahapurusha Yoga.

>> However, we cannot ignore the Badhak Lordship of the seventh lord and

>this

>> will also come by. So, Jupiter could be slightly unfavourable for

>Mercurial

>> Lagna as Mercury for Jupiterian Lagna due to this Badhak Lordship.

>> Saturn ia also the Badhak for Taurus. The point is suo moto Saturn

>> gives Rajyoga and such a placement can make him very destructive.

>Whichever

>> planet conjoins it can see the signification destroyed. In one case of

>> Taurus Lagna with Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th house, the native became

>> the Chief Secretary, but also lost his only son (drowning incident). Thus

>> Jupiter signifying children/ sons was destroyed as he rose to the

>pinnacle

>> of his profession. He has too many enemies and Jealous people around.

>>

>> > > Retrogrades have tremendous "Chesta Bala" and they can put in

>a

>> > > lot

>> > > of effort or the native has to put in a lot of effort to achive the

>> > > indications of the retrograde planet. The retrograde planet normally

>> > > reverses the indications of the house it is in. It is very strong

>being

>> > > full of Rays and its indications are sure to occur. Thus, if

>retrograde

>> > > in the 11th house, gains may be delayed or altogether denied. If

>> > > retrograde in the fifth, the mind/children (one normally) will

>suffer.

>> >

>> > My friend has retrograde exalted jupiter in 2.house(gemini).In jupiter

>> > antara he fetched the enormous

>> > gains.He was born wealthy,and is wealthy.He has very good job.Jupiter

>is

>> > lord of 10.and good spouse

>> > (lord of 7.)My another friend is aries lagna,with mars and saturn in

>> > 4.house.Saturn is retrograde.She was born in extremelly wealthy

>family,has

>> > a lot of movable assets and gains,as lord of 11.I do not see how saturn

>> > has reversed effects.However,as lord ogf 10.she never had independent

>> > career,but participated ih her husband career who was very,

>> > very,successful.Neecha mars could also lead to lack of own career.In my

>> > chart,mercury is retrograde in 2,house,and I am not poor,and see no

>> > reversed effects in 2.house matters.I agree that retrogrades have

>> > tremendous strenght.Parashara gives them ful measure(60 rupas).Could

>you

>> > explain what you mean my"Reversed" effect,please?

>>

>> Sanjay: Zoran, the retrograde planet is full of Rays and very very

>strong.

>> Thus, it behaves like an independant Sun..For example Jupiter when

>> retrograde will behave like a Yellow Sun while a retrograde Saturn will

>show

>> light like a blue Sun. I have retrograde Saturn in the 11th house and it

>is

>> also the atmakaraka indicating that I will follow the traditional line of

>my

>> forefathers. Inspite of all the efforts of my family to make a good

>> "engineer" out of me, I somehow continued with Jyotish. Saturn is in the

>> 11th house and the hopes have been reversed during its period. Reversed

>> means "Changed". For example in Saturn-Saturn we had a new Factory and a

>> very high status, but in Saturn-Ketu the situation was reversed and it

>was

>> lost.

>> In both the examples you quote money matters that are best seen from

>> the Arudha Lagna instead of Lagna. Ask the first friend about personal

>> matters concerning the second house like choise of food, appetite, family

>> affairs etc. While the second could have seen sorrow, but to what extent

>she

>> will disclose is to be seen. When is your Mercury Dasa period? Please

>give

>> the three charts and the Dasa for further discussion on these finer

>points.

>>

>>

>> Best regards,

>> Sanjay Rath

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Dear Sanjay,

Sorry for the delay,had no electricity.BTW.Jupiter entered aries and it is now

worse in Belgrade.No electricity and water...

NAto is targeting even civilians houses and flats...Many dead and wounded...I

feel very,very said...threathen to bomb all

communications,telephones,internet...They are preparing ground

troops...That would be a slaughter....I am very afraid for my family,cousins and

friends...What do you think,any comforting words?

Now,back to jyotish to distract sad thoughts...

SRath wrote:

 

> What is the first reading about the 4th lord in the 10th house? It

> tells us that the mother shall be an extrovert and there will be separation

> between the parents. Now, Jupiter is retrograde, so say the reversed

> reading.

 

As far as I understood,you mentioned that 4.lord in 10.house should bring

separation,why?

 

 

> Now what exactly are the evils of Jupiter? As the lord of AL & Lagna

> it guarantees yoga in its periods, but being retrograde in Virgo this will

> always be restricted by spiritualism.

 

I will always be happy if my finance is restricted by spiritualism.Yes,you are

right.Between money

and spiritual life I always choose the letter.

 

> The fourth house also rules home,

> hometown and Motherland..What period are you running now? Are the planets

> linked to Jupiter?

 

In vimshottari I am running budha/rahu/surya,They are all connected to arudha

lagna and 4.house.

 

> As regards full rays, it starts behaving like the Sun i.e

> independantly and if beneficial can raise a person to dizzying heights.

> Fortunately, both Jupiter and Mercury are beneficial from AL. This is a

> clear indication of good Karma of the Past and the blessings of your Guru.

> Who is your Guru? Does he have some special powers?

 

My spiritual Guru is Shri Maharishi Mahesh Yogi,My link with Him is profound and

ever-present...

After meeting Him,My life has completelly changed....MANTRA MULAM GURU VAKYAM

MOKSHA MULAM GURU KRIPAM....Aftter I experienced his meditation tehniques,I

realized

what powerful knowledge lies behind Him and Holy Shankaracharya tradition.Of

course there were

many others who led me in this spiritual path...GJList and Vedic-astrology list

are in a way My guru as well

I take humble gratitude to You,Narasimha and all other learned members who

contributed to exchange of knowledge.

BEst wishes,

Zoran

 

 

>

> Best Wishes,

> Sanjay Rath

> ----------------

> You Wrote: -

>

> > Dear Sanjay,

> >

> > Jupiter is the Lord of

> >

> > > AL and is retrograde in the 7th house i.e. you will have a strong

> > > influence of Jupiter in your external personality in this World of

> > > Mayaa. You will prefer the company of learned ones and saints and will

> > > also be looked upon as one. Both AL & Lagna are in Jupiterian signs.

> >

> > I totally forgot to look at arudha lagna.You are completelly

> > right.Sorry...

> >

> > > Mercury is the dispositor

> > > of the lagna Lord in the second house and you will not live upto the

> > > expectations of your Family lineage and will adopt the ways you prefer.

> > > Mercury generates SIMHASANA YOGA in your Chart and is also placed in the

> > > 11th from the AL..Mercury Dasa is going to prove to be fantastic

> > > financially. But then where is your focus? Is it in the 2nd house? No,

> > > instead it is on the 8th house (Occult knowledge).

> >

> > If I understood rigthly yoe mention the 8.house due to a mercury's drishti

> > on it?

> >

> >

> > > However, Jupiter rules your childhood (Lagna &

> > > 4th) and being retrograde in the tenth only promises hardship in

> > > Childhood. Jupiter becomes totally benefic as the kendradhipatya Dosha

> > > is fully cancelled, but its retrogression is bad..reverses the

> > > indications of Good effects and only bad follows.

> >

> > Well I do not understand this completelly.I was in jupiter antara and it

> > was very good.

> > I was also in mercury/ketu dasha and ketu is in yuti with jupiter.The best

> > period in my life.

> > I am not uneducated,nor I see the bad effects of Jupiter.Could you explain

> > what you meant?

> > Why is jupiter kendraadhipatya dosha fully cancelled.Lord of kendra placed

> > in kendra?Shouldn't it be in trine to cancel the dosha,or in 4./lagna to

> > give mahapurusha yoga?

> >

> > > Now, Natural Benefics enhance the sign they aspect at the cost

> > > of

> > > the sign they are placed in, but..this is also reversed in

> > > retrogression. The 4th is badly damaged as the tenth is helped.

> > > Reversal is a very broad word.

> >

> > Does it mean that jupiter aspect its own 4.house is bad?I didn't

> > experience the bad

> > effects of 4.house signifiations so far.My mother is very

> > special,religious person,very human and nice.I do not understand what you

> > meant by bad effect of retro jupiter's aspect on 4.house.

> > I didn't experience significantly bad effects in 4.house significations.

> > IS THERE SOMETHING GOOD ARISING FROM RETROGRADE PLANET,DUE TO ITS FULL

> > RAYS/STRENGHT?

> > You are always here to help us in our "growing up" in jyotish.

> > With thanks,

> > Zoran

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Sanjay Rath

> > > ----------------

 

 

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JAYA JAGANNATHA

Dear Gangadharaji,

Sorry for this late reply. I missed the mail when I was ill.

Yes, any dasa can cause death. this is dependant on the Moon very much.

Specially, the Vimsottari Lords of the 3rd, 5th & 7th Starrs from the Janma

Star. Further, the Benefics owning Kendra become less benefic and the

conjunctions or aspect of malefics can show them giving negative results.

The placement of Jupiter is Vital and its Kendradhipatya Dosha is not at all

bad as the BADHAK DOSHA. When Jupiter decides to obstruct something, then it

is very difficult to remove the obstruction.

Can we have the charts for a discussion. Thank you,

Best Regards,

Sanjay Rath

Sri Jagannath Vedic Center

152B Pocket C Mayur Vihar Phase-2, Delhi 110091

Tel:+91-11-2489531;e-mail: srath

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Crystal Expectation <crystalx

<sjvc >

Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:51 AM

[sjvc] Re: Vimsottari Dasa

 

 

Sanjay,

 

I must tell you that I lost a very good friend who had Virgo rising during

her Jupiter mahadasa. So I would say her Jupiter was more than "slightly"

malefic. Also, another friend lost his mother...same story.

 

I am not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to bring forth

another side of the story.

 

Gangadhara Girish

Gary Gomes

Swami Kampananda

 

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> SRath <SRath

> Zoran Radosavljevic <satya

> Cc: GJList <gjlist; SJVC <sjvc >

> [sjvc] Re: Vimsottari Dasa

> Tuesday, May 25, 1999 9:30 PM

>

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Zoran,

> Additional Views:-

> >

> > Natural Benefics owning

> >

> > > Quadrants, if also placed in Quadrants or trines give Rajyoga whereas

> > > natural malefics owning Quadrants if placed in a dusthana give

Rajyoga.

> > >

> >

> > I was taught that natural benefic owning quadrants if placed in

quadrants

> > are slightly unfavourable.

> > and I have seen in practice jupiter for gemini/pisces/sagittarius/virgo

> > ascendent gives slightly unfoavourable effects in his dasha if placed

in

> > quadrant.Could you explain?Also,neecha saturn as yogakaraka for taurus

> > lagna,has given bad effects in his dasha in several cases.

> Sanjay: They are not unfavourable as they generate Mahapurusha Yoga.

> However, we cannot ignore the Badhak Lordship of the seventh lord and

this

> will also come by. So, Jupiter could be slightly unfavourable for

Mercurial

> Lagna as Mercury for Jupiterian Lagna due to this Badhak Lordship.

> Saturn ia also the Badhak for Taurus. The point is suo moto Saturn

> gives Rajyoga and such a placement can make him very destructive.

Whichever

> planet conjoins it can see the signification destroyed. In one case of

> Taurus Lagna with Saturn and Jupiter in the 12th house, the native became

> the Chief Secretary, but also lost his only son (drowning incident). Thus

> Jupiter signifying children/ sons was destroyed as he rose to the

pinnacle

> of his profession. He has too many enemies and Jealous people around.

>

> > > Retrogrades have tremendous "Chesta Bala" and they can put in

a

> > > lot

> > > of effort or the native has to put in a lot of effort to achive the

> > > indications of the retrograde planet. The retrograde planet normally

> > > reverses the indications of the house it is in. It is very strong

being

> > > full of Rays and its indications are sure to occur. Thus, if

retrograde

> > > in the 11th house, gains may be delayed or altogether denied. If

> > > retrograde in the fifth, the mind/children (one normally) will

suffer.

> >

> > My friend has retrograde exalted jupiter in 2.house(gemini).In jupiter

> > antara he fetched the enormous

> > gains.He was born wealthy,and is wealthy.He has very good job.Jupiter

is

> > lord of 10.and good spouse

> > (lord of 7.)My another friend is aries lagna,with mars and saturn in

> > 4.house.Saturn is retrograde.She was born in extremelly wealthy

family,has

> > a lot of movable assets and gains,as lord of 11.I do not see how saturn

> > has reversed effects.However,as lord ogf 10.she never had independent

> > career,but participated ih her husband career who was very,

> > very,successful.Neecha mars could also lead to lack of own career.In my

> > chart,mercury is retrograde in 2,house,and I am not poor,and see no

> > reversed effects in 2.house matters.I agree that retrogrades have

> > tremendous strenght.Parashara gives them ful measure(60 rupas).Could

you

> > explain what you mean my"Reversed" effect,please?

>

> Sanjay: Zoran, the retrograde planet is full of Rays and very very

strong.

> Thus, it behaves like an independant Sun..For example Jupiter when

> retrograde will behave like a Yellow Sun while a retrograde Saturn will

show

> light like a blue Sun. I have retrograde Saturn in the 11th house and it

is

> also the atmakaraka indicating that I will follow the traditional line of

my

> forefathers. Inspite of all the efforts of my family to make a good

> "engineer" out of me, I somehow continued with Jyotish. Saturn is in the

> 11th house and the hopes have been reversed during its period. Reversed

> means "Changed". For example in Saturn-Saturn we had a new Factory and a

> very high status, but in Saturn-Ketu the situation was reversed and it

was

> lost.

> In both the examples you quote money matters that are best seen from

> the Arudha Lagna instead of Lagna. Ask the first friend about personal

> matters concerning the second house like choise of food, appetite, family

> affairs etc. While the second could have seen sorrow, but to what extent

she

> will disclose is to be seen. When is your Mercury Dasa period? Please

give

> the three charts and the Dasa for further discussion on these finer

points.

>

>

> Best regards,

> Sanjay Rath

> ----------------

>

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