RE: Lesson 1.: Astronomical Definitions

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

Questions:

1. Changing Seasons - due to the incline of 23 1/2 degrees and the circum-path

of the earth around Surya... This tilt , then influences and regulates the

seasons. IN the summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted *into* the Sun (

and by the way we are the furthest away ( Aphelion) from the Sun ( in absolute

miles) then in the winter.

This tilt is of great importance: the precession of the equinoxes are

controlled by this motion of the wobble of the earth. This then creates a

"Cone of Precession" that changes out our north pole star every ~26,000.

We are now "precessing " to the star of Vega - due in the year 14,000.

1.2 WE HAVE VARIOUS SEASONS regulated by the Sun and the amount of light that

falls upon the earth at Different Latitudes:

A. Basant - spring

B. Greesham - Summer

C. Varsha - Rainy

D. Sharad - Autumn

E. Hemant - Dewy

E. Shishria - Winter

1.3 Some key positions for the Sun: Uttarayana or its travel north as it enters

Capricorn through Gemini

Dakshinayana or it's

southern travel as it enters Cancer and finishes

the 30th degree of

Sagittarius ( which houses Moola or the center of

of the Galaxy.

1.4 Surya as the center of our solar system ( and at an angle of 62 degrees to

the galactic plane we dare in) rotates around the center of our Galaxy....We

live in on of the spiral arms of the milky way , Carina Cygnus arm ( the two

others are Peruses and Sagittarius)

 

2. Rising and Setting of Surya: Maximum Latitudes are Tropic of Cancer ( 23 1/2

degrees North Latitude) for Northern Hemisphere; Tropic of Capricorn ( 23 1/2

Degrees South) for Southern Hemisphere).

Winter Solstice ( Dev 21-22) - for higher North latitudes - the daylight is

*shorter" as the earth's axis points away from from the sun's rays, yet in the

southern hemisphere a full day of sun is available. It is the opposite for the

Summer solstice ( June 21-22)

Equinox - were day and night are balanced March 21 and Sept 21)

3.Moving and non Moving - Graha's and Nakshatra

Graha - moving planets and energy ( also 9 Upagrahas or mathematical point)

Houses ( Bhava ) and signs - owned by Surya

Nakshatra - 27 constellations owned by Chandra

The Graha's transit ( Gochara) the Nakshatra and stimulate and pick up and

transmit the influence of their nature with thenature of the Nakshatra ( for

mind) and House .

 

4. Charka of Chart - form my D1 chart:

a. Lagna = 8:01 Sco or 218 degrees 01 min from 0 degrees Aries

b. Planets above the horizon - Guru in the 6th; Rahu in the 3rd; Moon is

setting at 16:33 Ta Mercury, Venus, Ketu and Sun are strongly placed in

the 9th below the horizon.

c. Bhaskara ( Sun) is traveling in Dakshininaya or Yamyayana) as it enters

Cancer 2 degrees.

planets locations, Nakstrata's are shown below:

July 17, 1952Time: 15:22:30Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)Longitude: 87 W 40' 25"Latitude: 41 N 54' 10"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: NandanaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (78.75%

left)Weekday: ThursdayNakshatra: Rohini (50.84% left)Yoga:

VriddhiKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Sun

 

Sunrise: 4:31:11Sunset: 19:20:32Janma Ghatis: 27.1383

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra

Lagna 8 Sc 01' 01.09" Anuradha -Sun 2 Cn 00' 16.17"

Punarvasu

Moon 16 Ta 33' 15.18" Rohini

Mars 16 Li 06' 17.49" Swathi Mercury 28 Cn 32' 57.41"

Aasresha

Jupiter 23 Ar 23' 34.98" Bharani Venus 8 Cn 21' 12.27"

Pushyami

Saturn 16 Vi 08' 14.35" Hastha Rahu 29 Cp 43' 51.03"

Dhanishtha Ketu 29 Cn 43' 51.03" Aasresha -

+--------------+|AL |Jup |Moo

HL | || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |

|Sun Mer || | |Ven Ket ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||Rah | |Mnd Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

| ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||

|Asc |Mar GL |Sat || | |

| || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|+--------------+

 

+--------------+|Mer Ket | |Moo

Sat |AL || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar |

|Sun || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Navamsa |-----------|| | |Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Jup GL |

|Asc Ven || |Mnd | |Rah HL ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+

[Guest guest]

hare rama krishna

 

1. Explain the changing of the seasons and its connection with the above

mentioned astronomical factors.

 

The earth is tilted on an axis relative to its plane of movement in its

orbit around the sun. As a result, the effect of sunrays will change

depending on the location of the earth relative to the sun, and gives us

the various "seasons".

 

2. There are some days of the year when the Sun either doesn't rise or set above

certain parts of the globe. Please explain this phenomenon.

 

Due to the inclination of the earth, the sun doesn't rise of set at the

poles, and is exposed for continuous periods of sunlight or darkness

instead. This is because these areas are continuously facing

towards/away from the sun as a result of the inclination.

 

3. Parasara mentions two classes of heavenly bodies: the moeving and non-moving

ones. Please explain, what will be the difference between their roles in the

astrological interpretation.

 

Motion is relative. The movement of the grahas can been seen relative to

the nakshatras, or relative to any other body. For predictive astrology,

the ancient seers have catalogued the effects of the motion of grahas

relative to the nakshatras. The effects of the nakshatras will be

unchanging (this provides the basis for interpretation), and the effects

of the grahas will depend on their relative positions.

 

4. If you are able to construct your own chart, please do it and explain as many

astronomical principles from it as you can (terrestrial latitude/longitude,

season, Sun's cycle, Sunrise/Sunset etc.). Also try to determine which planets

are above and under the horizon in your chart. In which Ayana the Sun is?

 

Lagna (2 Ar 51) is rising in the Eastern sky. The grahas from 2 Ar 51 to

2 Li 51 are above the horizon (mo, ju, ma, rh, sa). The remainder are

below the horizon (su, me, ke, ve).

 

The latitude affects the time of sunrise (6:39 am). This can effect the

day (weekday) of birth (Monday since I am born after sunrise). In

addition, the position of the upagrahas depends directly on the time of

sunrise, sunset, and day or birth.

 

The longitude affects the location of lagna above.

 

The location of sun determines the season and ayana. Sun in Capricorn

puts it in Shishir Ritu and Uttarayana.

 

 

Day of Birth (d.m.y) 28.1.1980 Monday

Time of Birth (h.m.s) 10.36.0

Time Zone (h.m.s) 3.0.0

Latitude (d.m.s) 29.20.0

Longitude (d.m.s) 47.59.0

Sunrise (h.m.s) 6.39.0

Sunset (h.m.s) 17.22.0

Ayanamsa Lahiri

 

Planet Position Pada Decl CharaK

---------------------------

su Sun 13 Cp 57 Sravana 2 -19 36 6 PuK

mo Moon 0 Ge 16 Mrigasira 3 18 31 8 DK

me Mercury 18 Cp 45 Sravana 3 -20 56 4 MK

ve Venus 21 Aq 13 Poorvabhadra 1 -8 53 2 AmK

R ma Mars 20 Le 49 Pubba 3 9 49 3 BK

R ju Jupiter 14 Le 59 Pubba 1 9 30 5 PiK

R sa Saturn 3 Vi 1 Uttara 2 3 26 7 GK

R ra Rahu 6 Le 52 Makha 3 11 18 1 AK

ke Ketu 6 Aq 52 Satabhisha 1 11 18

*L Lagna 2 Ar 51 Aswini 1 0 0

 

ajit

 

--

Ajit Krishnan

ajit

http://publish.uwo.ca/~ajit

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Frank,

 

Namaste.

 

Very scholarly indeed. Now the question is the same as for Jay, what is the

astrological difference between the role of Grahas and Nakshatras?

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone:

+36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

 

 

 

Namaste,

Questions:

1. Changing Seasons - due to the incline of 23 1/2 degrees and the circum-path

of the earth around Surya... This tilt , then influences and regulates the

seasons. IN the summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted *into* the Sun (

and by the way we are the furthest away ( Aphelion) from the Sun ( in absolute

miles) then in the winter.

This tilt is of great importance: the precession of the equinoxes are

controlled by this motion of the wobble of the earth. This then creates a

"Cone of Precession" that changes out our north pole star every ~26,000.

We are now "precessing " to the star of Vega - due in the year 14,000.

1.2 WE HAVE VARIOUS SEASONS regulated by the Sun and the amount of light that

falls upon the earth at Different Latitudes:

A. Basant - spring

B. Greesham - Summer

C. Varsha - Rainy

D. Sharad - Autumn

E. Hemant - Dewy

E. Shishria - Winter

1.3 Some key positions for the Sun: Uttarayana or its travel north as it enters

Capricorn through Gemini

Dakshinayana or it's

southern travel as it enters Cancer and finishes

the 30th degree of

Sagittarius ( which houses Moola or the center of

of the Galaxy.

1.4 Surya as the center of our solar system ( and at an angle of 62 degrees to

the galactic plane we dare in) rotates around the center of our Galaxy....We

live in on of the spiral arms of the milky way , Carina Cygnus arm ( the two

others are Peruses and Sagittarius)

 

2. Rising and Setting of Surya: Maximum Latitudes are Tropic of Cancer ( 23 1/2

degrees North Latitude) for Northern Hemisphere; Tropic of Capricorn ( 23 1/2

Degrees South) for Southern Hemisphere).

Winter Solstice ( Dev 21-22) - for higher North latitudes - the daylight is

*shorter" as the earth's axis points away from from the sun's rays, yet in the

southern hemisphere a full day of sun is available. It is the opposite for the

Summer solstice ( June 21-22)

Equinox - were day and night are balanced March 21 and Sept 21)

3.Moving and non Moving - Graha's and Nakshatra

Graha - moving planets and energy ( also 9 Upagrahas or mathematical point)

Houses ( Bhava ) and signs - owned by Surya

Nakshatra - 27 constellations owned by Chandra

The Graha's transit ( Gochara) the Nakshatra and stimulate and pick up and

transmit the influence of their nature with thenature of the Nakshatra ( for

mind) and House .

 

4. Charka of Chart - form my D1 chart:

a. Lagna = 8:01 Sco or 218 degrees 01 min from 0 degrees Aries

b. Planets above the horizon - Guru in the 6th; Rahu in the 3rd; Moon is

setting at 16:33 Ta Mercury, Venus, Ketu and Sun are strongly placed in

the 9th below the horizon.

c. Bhaskara ( Sun) is traveling in Dakshininaya or Yamyayana) as it enters

Cancer 2 degrees.

planets locations, Nakstrata's are shown below:

July 17, 1952Time: 15:22:30Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)Longitude: 87 W 40' 25"Latitude: 41 N 54' 10"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: NandanaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (78.75%

left)Weekday: ThursdayNakshatra: Rohini (50.84% left)Yoga:

VriddhiKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Sun

 

Sunrise: 4:31:11Sunset: 19:20:32Janma Ghatis: 27.1383

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra

Lagna 8 Sc 01' 01.09" Anuradha -Sun 2 Cn 00' 16.17"

Punarvasu

Moon 16 Ta 33' 15.18" Rohini

Mars 16 Li 06' 17.49" Swathi Mercury 28 Cn 32' 57.41"

Aasresha

Jupiter 23 Ar 23' 34.98" Bharani Venus 8 Cn 21' 12.27"

Pushyami

Saturn 16 Vi 08' 14.35" Hastha Rahu 29 Cp 43' 51.03"

Dhanishtha Ketu 29 Cn 43' 51.03" Aasresha -

+--------------+|AL |Jup |Moo

HL | || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |

|Sun Mer || | |Ven Ket ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||Rah | |Mnd Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

| ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||

|Asc |Mar GL |Sat || | |

| || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|+--------------+

 

+--------------+|Mer Ket | |Moo

Sat |AL || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar |

|Sun || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Navamsa |-----------|| | |Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Jup GL |

|Asc Ven || |Mnd | |Rah HL ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+

 

[Guest guest]

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Ajit,

 

Namaste.

 

The answers are good. For 3rd question the same deficiancy as for others.

 

Now another question comes up:

 

>

> Lagna (2 Ar 51) is rising in the Eastern sky. The grahas from 2 Ar 51 to

> 2 Li 51 are above the horizon (mo, ju, ma, rh, sa). The remainder are

> below the horizon (su, me, ke, ve).

 

What will be the astrological (not astronomical) difference between planets

in the Drusya (visible) and Adrusya (visible) half of the chart? How will

each group inflence the chart? What happens if someone has most (or all)

planets in either half?

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

<gauranga

Phone: +36-309-140-839

Jyotish Remedies:

WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

 

 

 

 

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hare rama krishna

 

Gauranga Das wrote:

<snipped>

 

> The answers are good. For 3rd question the same deficiancy as for others.

 

The non-moving bodies represent environmental influences and situations

which develop in one's life. The moving bodies represent people in one's

life. This is why the Chara Karakas are attributed to the grahas. Similarly,

the bhachakra represents Sri Vishnu, and the grahas represent his

incarnations.

 

The upagrahas do not correspond to physical bodies. However, they are

sub-planets since each of them is related to one of the grahas. I have

to think some more about how they fit into the scheme.

 

> Now another question comes up:

>

> What will be the astrological (not astronomical) difference between planets

> in the Drusya (visible) and Adrusya (visible) half of the chart? How will

> each group inflence the chart? What happens if someone has most (or all)

> planets in either half?

 

It would be logical for planets in the Drusya and Adrusya half of the

chart to be ruled by the Sun and Moon respectively. In this case,

planets in the Drusya half would give their intellectual qualities,

while planets in the Adrusya half would give their mental (emotional)

qualities. Someone with a majority of planets in one half would

represent the respective qualities.

 

If this is true, then in order to use the vimsottari dasa variation

starting from Lagna, the majority of planets should be in the Drusya

half.

 

ajit

 

--

Ajit Krishnan

ajit

http://publish.uwo.ca/~ajit

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

Yes as the others have mentioned...the Houses or Bhava's represent the

environment around us...and Lord Narayan

or the back drop or the total environment.

there are different levels of influence or harmonics, so we have different

charts for evaluation e.g. D1 charts

through the D-60th

 

The Graha's represent people and influences as they transit through the Bhava.

 

I see it as a 12 sting guitar.... the 12 strings = the 12 houses. As one picks

or strums the guitar or goes though life,

different vibrations are created, some are harmonic ( positive yoga formations

) and melodic and some are with discord creating negative influences. A person's

Rasi Chakra upon birth sets up an initial cord and key ( Key of C, or A flat, or

B minor) that a person is born with. Over time the cord patterns ( dasas of

Narayan, Vimshottari, etc) play out in that key, so a person

gets to experience various vibrations within the 12 string construct.

The analogy gives the 12 houses as the back drop ...the finer picking or

strumming are the Graha's going from house to house.

 

just a thought!

! Shanti, Shanti Shanti Frank in Austin , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gauranga Das [gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

Saturday, November 03, 2001 7:03 AMsjvcSubject: Re:

[sjvc] Lesson 1.: Astronomical Definitions

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

 

Dear Frank,

 

Namaste.<![if !s! upportLists]><![endif]>

Very scholarly indeed. Now the question is the same as for Jay, what is the

astrological difference between the role of Grahas and Nakshatras?

 

Yours,

 

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone:

+36-309-140-839 Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

 

 

 

Namaste,

Questions:

1. Changing Seasons - due to the incline of 23 1/2 degrees and the circum-path

of the earth around Surya... This tilt , then influences and regulates the

seasons. IN the summer, the northern hemisphere is tilted *into* the Sun (

and by the way we are the furthest away ( Aphelion) from the Sun ( in absolute

miles) then in the winter.

This tilt is of great importance: the precession of the equinoxes are

controlled by this motion of the wobble of the earth. This then creates a

"Cone of Precession" that changes out our north pole star every ~26,000.

We are now "precessing " to the star of Vega - due in the year 14,000.

1.2 WE HAVE VARIOUS SEASONS regulated by the Sun and the amount of light that

falls upon the earth at Different Latitudes:

A. Basant - spring

B. Greesham - Summer

C. Varsha - Rainy

D. Sharad - Autumn

E. Hemant - Dewy

E. Shishria - Winter

1.3 Some key positions for the Sun: Uttarayana or its travel north as it enters

Capricorn through Gemini

Dakshinayana or it's

southern travel as it enters Cancer and finishes

the 30th degree of

Sagittarius ( which houses Moola or the center of

of the Galaxy.

1.4 Surya as the center of our solar system ( and at an angle of 62 degrees to

the galactic plane we dare in) rotates around the center of our Galaxy....We

live in on of the spiral arms of the milky way , Carina Cygnus arm ( the two

others are Peruses and Sagittarius)

 

2. Rising and Setting of Surya: Maximum Latitudes are Tropic of Cancer ( 23 1/2

degrees North Latitude) for Northern Hemisphere; Tropic of Capricorn ( 23 1/2

Degrees South) for Southern Hemisphere).

Winter Solstice ( Dev 21-22) - for higher North latitudes - the daylight is

*shorter" as the earth's axis points away from from the sun's rays, yet in the

southern hemisphere a full day of sun is available. It is the opposite for the

Summer solstice ( June 21-22)

Equinox - were day and night are balanced March 21 and Sept 21)

3.Moving and non Moving - Graha's and Nakshatra

Graha - moving planets and energy ( also 9 Upagrahas or mathematical point)

Houses ( Bhava ) and signs - owned by Surya

Nakshatra - 27 constellations owned by Chandra

The Graha's transit ( Gochara) the Nakshatra and stimulate and pick up and

transmit the influence of their nature with thenature of the Nakshatra ( for

mind) and House .

 

4. Charka of Chart - form my D1 chart:

a. Lagna = 8:01 Sco or 218 degrees 01 min from 0 degrees Aries

b. Planets above the horizon - Guru in the 6th; Rahu in the 3rd; Moon is

setting at 16:33 Ta Mercury, Venus, Ketu and Sun are strongly placed in

the 9th below the horizon.

c. Bhaskara ( Sun) is traveling in Dakshininaya or Yamyayana) as it enters

Cancer 2 degrees.

planets locations, Nakstrata's are shown below:

July 17, 1952Time: 15:22:30Time Zone: 6:00:00 (West of

GMT)Longitude: 87 W 40' 25"Latitude: 41 N 54' 10"Altitude: 0.00

meters

 

Lunar Year: NandanaLunar Month: AshadhaTithi: Krishna Dwadasi (78.75%

left)Weekday: ThursdayNakshatra: Rohini (50.84% left)Yoga:

VriddhiKarana: KaulavaHora Lord: Sun

 

Sunrise: 4:31:11Sunset: 19:20:32Janma Ghatis: 27.1383

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra

Lagna 8 Sc 01' 01.09" Anuradha -Sun 2 Cn 00' 16.17"

Punarvasu

Moon 16 Ta 33' 15.18" Rohini

Mars 16 Li 06' 17.49" Swathi Mercury 28 Cn 32' 57.41"

Aasresha

Jupiter 23 Ar 23' 34.98" Bharani Venus 8 Cn 21' 12.27"

Pushyami

Saturn 16 Vi 08' 14.35" Hastha Rahu 29 Cp 43' 51.03"

Dhanishtha Ketu 29 Cn 43' 51.03" Aasresha -

+--------------+|AL |Jup |Moo

HL | || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |

|Sun Mer || | |Ven Ket ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||Rah | |Mnd Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

| ||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||

|Asc |Mar GL |Sat || | |

| || | | | || |

| | || | | |

|+--------------+

 

+--------------+|Mer Ket | |Moo

Sat |AL || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Mar |

|Sun || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Navamsa |-----------|| | |Glk ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------|| |Jup GL |

|Asc Ven || |Mnd | |Rah HL ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+

Your use

of is subject to the

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna!

 

Namaste, all Gurus and Jyotisha!

 

GD> Assignments:

 

GD> 1. Explain the changing of the seasons and its connection with the

GD> above mentioned astronomical factors.

 

Change of seasons year occurs due to movement of the Sun, from

northern hemisphere in southern and back. Change of seasons of year

occurs due to movement of the Sun, from northern hemisphere in

southern and back. When the Sun achieves a midsummer i.e. to be in

northern hemisphere in these parts of the world summer prevails. When

the Sun to be in a winter solstice i.e. to be in a southern hemisphere

in northern hemisphere winter prevails. Same but opposite feel in the

Southern hemisphere.

 

GD> 2. There are some days of the year when the Sun either doesn't

GD> rise or set above certain parts of the globe. Please explain this

GD> phenomenon.

 

There are periods when the Sun comes far to the north or on the South,

and in the remote regions of the north, also due to an inclination of

the earth make the periods known as "white night" or "polar night"

are formed. At this time the Sun does not fall for horizon or in a

case of " polar night " not run above horizon.

 

GD> 3. Parasara mentions two classes of heavenly bodies: the moeving

GD> and non-moving ones. Please explain, what will be the difference

GD> between their roles in the astrological interpretation.

 

Moving heavenly bodies, such as grahi are characterized by dynamism

and ability to make changes, they show on people and their influence

in human life.

While non-moving heavenly bodies, such as nakshatras, signs are

characterized by static and specify vital situations and on events

which enter into life.

 

GD> 4. If you are able to construct your own chart, please do it and

GD> explain as many astronomical principles from it as you can

GD> (terrestrial latitude/longitude, season, Sun's cycle,

GD> Sunrise/Sunset etc.). Also try to determine which planets are

GD> above and under the horizon in your chart. In which Ayana the Sun

GD> is?

 

My Natal Chart

June 4, 1975

Time: 15:30:00

Time Zone: 3:00:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 43 E 04' 00"

Latitude: 44 N 03' 00"

 

Lunar Year: Rakshasa

Lunar Month: Vaisakha

Tithi: Krishna Dasami (16.96% left)

Weekday: Wednesday

Nakshatra: Revathi (92.04% left)

Yoga: Ayushman

Karana: Vishti

Hora Lord: Saturn

 

Sunrise: 4:29:06

Sunset: 19:44:05

Janma Ghatis: 27.5376

 

+--------------+

|Moo Mar |HL |Sun MerR |Sat |

|Jup | |Ket | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| | |Ven |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

|AL | |Mnd Glk |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| |Rah |Asc |GL |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

When I have accepted birth the Sun went in northern way, period

Uttarayana (day of demigods) at this time was. When the Sun passes it

in northern hemisphere refers to as Uttarayana (day of demigods) or

northern way of the Sun and when the Sun passes it in a southern

hemisphere refers to as Dakshinayana (day of demons) or a southern way

of the Sun.

At this time there was a period of a summer or season Grishma. The sun

and almost all planets excluding Rahu in this horoscope are above

horizon or in a "visible part" of a horoscope.

The birthplace has fallen 43E04 east longitude and 44N03 northern

breadth. Sunrise this day has come for 04.30 mornings and sunset for

19.44 evenings, and time birth 15.30. At the moment of birth the Sun

has already passed a point of zenith and began to be declined to a

sundown. My Lagna to be in Tula and Janma rasi in Mina, the Sun in a

Vrishchika. During birth the moon was decreasing, Krishna Dashami.

 

Yours shishya,

Chandramukha das.

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Sree Gurubhyo Namah

Hari Om

 

Dear Gauranga guruji,

My attempts in trying to answer the questions.

 

Q1: The axis of the earth is titled and makes an anle of 23.5 degrees

with the plane of

earth's orbit around the sun. Because of this tilt, a given point on

the earth's surface

changes its position relative to the sun. When a point in the

northern hemisphere, is tilted

towards the sun, the suns rays are falling directly and hence the

point and its neighboring regions experience summer. When this point

gets tilted away from the sun, as the earth revolves around the sun,

the rays strike with a greater angle, and thus the point and the

neighboring regions experience winter. Between these two points, the

point and its neighboring regions have fall and spring respectively.

 

 

Q2: Again, the tilt of the earth's axis causes this. When there is

winter in the northern hemisphere, the sun is above the horizon for

the southern hemisphere. So at the poles, the sun rays reach

directly, all through this time, so they have very long days.

 

Q3: Non moving bodies are the nakshatras(constellations) and hence

rasis, and moving bodies are the grahas and upa-grahas.

Like wise, I think upa-grahas, rise out of the rotation of the earth

relative to the grahas. which other grahas im not sure, but upaketu

could be related to ketu.

I think Lagna, rises out of the rotation of the earth relative to the

sun.

But I am confused about GL and HL then. GL and HL move faster than

the lagna, 5 times and 2 times. So what could they represent?

Movement of earth relative to what?

The nakshatras, and hence rasis could represent a particular

characteristic, and the grahas / lagna postitioned in a particular

rasi / nakshatra / pada of a nakshatra could confer certain

characteristics that make us enjoy / suffer our past karmas.

During my birth, moon was in asalesha, which represents sarpa

characteristics, there by conferring me characteristics of a snake to

my mind(moon). Thus i could experience sudden waves of anger in my

mind.

Different lords are associated with different constellations as well

as rasis.

I think Planets owning the constellations / nakshatras, represent

their respective exaltations, moolatrikona and own houses.

I would be very obliged if guruji could correct me here.

Ju has Punarvasu, visaka, and p. bhadra as its exaltation, moola-

trikona, and own house respectively.

But the same does not seem to be applicable everywhere, mercury's

moolatrikona is in a nakshatra owned by sun. Why is this?

 

I am not entierly sure why a particular rasi should be owned by a

graha, and why sun and moon have only one rasi. My thoughts ramble

with an explanation that these are luminaries and always confer

light, while the others are merely reflecting light, and thus

sometimes bright and sometimes dark, hence, it could mean that they

confer both qualities of karmas to a person (good and bad).

 

Q4: For me the details about my birth.

Terrestrial Latitude: 80 E 17'

Terrestrial Longitude: 13 N 04'

Season : Spring - Summer transition.

Sun's cycle : - Uttarayan; relative motion of the sun to the northern

hemisphere.

Date of birth 7th april, 1979 - Just before the commencement of the

next solar year; that is sun is about to enter Mesha rasi.

There appear to be 60 names and at a temple in south india, called

Swami malai, these 60 years are laid down as steps to

lord "Karthikeya"'s abode.

grahas above the horizon: Su, Ke, Ve, Ma, and Me.

grahas below : Ju, Mo, Ra , Sa.

 

Natal Chart

 

April 7, 1979

Time: 10:15:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Longitude: 80 E 17' 00"

Latitude: 13 N 04' 00"

 

+--------------+

|Sun Mar |Mnd |Asc | |

|MerR Glk | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Ven Ket | |Moo Jup |

|GL | |HL |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Rasi |-----------|

| | |SatR Rah |

| | |AL |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

+--------------+

|Ven HL |Ket |Mnd AL | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|Moo | |MerR |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------| Navamsa |-----------|

|Sun Glk | |Mar Jup |

| | |SatR |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

|GL | |Rah |Asc |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+--------------+

 

 

Seeking your blessings,

Your Sishya,

Karthik

 

 

 

 

sjvc, "Gauranga Das" <gauranga@b...> wrote:

> JAYA JAGANNATHA! SRI JAGANNATH VEDIC ASTROLOGY CENTER

>

> ASTRONOMICAL DEFINITIONS IN JYOTISH

>

> (Compiled by Gauranga Das, © Copyright of SJVC and Gauranga Das )

>

> bhagavan paramam punyam guhyam vedaangam uttamam

> triskandham jyotisham horaa ganitam samhiteti ca

>

> (BPHS. 1.2.)

>

> "O Supreme sage! Astrology, the supreme limb of the Vedas, consists

of three divisions. Viz. Hora, Ganita and Samhita."

>

> This is one of the beginning shlokas of Brihat Parasara Hora

Sastra, which describes that Jyotish has three skandhas or divisions,

namely Hora (natal astrology), Ganita (astronomical calculations) and

Samhita (omens and other signs). Varaha Mihira especially mentions,

that an astrologer should be well versed in all of these three

divisions. According to Prasna Marga, there's two subdivisions of

Ganita, or astronomical calculations, namely Gola (spherical

astronomy) and Ganita (general calculations), out of which the latter

deals with general description of the heavenly bodies, while the

former deals with the factors which are due to the shperical nature

of the Earth and other Grahas.

>

> THE HEAVENLY BODIES

>

> shrinu vipra pravakshyaami bhagrahaanaam paristhitim

> aakaase yaani drsyante jyotir bimbaanyanekashah

> teshu nakshatra-samjnaani graha-samjnaani kaanichit

> taani nakshatra-naamaani sthira sthaanaani yaani ca

>

> (BPHS. 3.2-3.)

>

> "O brahmin, listen to me, I shall give an account of the placement

of the heavenly bodies. Out of the many luminous bodies that are seen

in the heavens, some are called stars (nakshatras) and the others are

named as planets (grahas). Those which have no movements and are

fixed in their places are called nakshatras, and the moving bodies

are the grahas."

>

> According to the above verse there are two classes of heavenly

bodies: the non-moving ones, or the stars (nakshatras) and the moving

ones, or the planets (grahas). To measure the movements of the grahas

in the background of the stars, we should determine points of

measurement on the sky.

>

> 1. THE STRUCTURE OF THE EARTH

>

> According to the Surya Siddhanta (ancient astronomical treatise)

the Earth (Bhumi) could be considered a globe, which rotates around

its own axis. The two ends of this axis poke through the surface of

the Earth at the north and south pole.

>

> 1.1. The Earth's Equator (Vishvarekha)

>

> This is an imaginary line running around the earth in the exact

middle between the south and north poles. This divides thre Earth

into a northern and southern hemisphere. The difference between the

two is especially visible in the changes of the seasons (determined

by the yearly motion of the Sun). In June for example we have summer

in the northern hemisphere but simultaneously winter in the southern

hemisphere. Therefore the location of the nativity (place of birth)

will be a determinant factor in the astronomical calculations that we

carry out. Therefore it is necessary to be able to determine the

location by certain measurements. To ascertain a point on the earth

globe, we will need two coordinates: the latitude and the longitude

of the place.

>

> 1.2. The Latitude (Akshamsa)

>

> This is the angular distance of the place from the Equator towards

the North or South. It is measured in degrees, minutes and seconds of

arc. The equator is the 0o point, and the poles are at 90o to the

south and the north. The southern or northern latitude of the

nativity will determine the time of sunrise and sunset and the

duration of the day and night, which have important role in a number

of calculations in Jyotish.

>

> 1.3. The Longitude (Rekhamsa)

>

> The longitude is the vertical measurement of degrees. The earth can

be divided into 360 longitudinal meridians, each of the extent of

1o. Now the choice of the beginning point, or 0o is not determined

astronomically. In the ancienc India the 0o meridian was the one

intersecting the ancient town of Ujjain, where one of the

Jyotirlingas (Lord Shiva's manifestation in a glowing stone) is

situated. This Jyotirlinga is called Mahakaleshvara, and as the

astrology is the science of the measurement of the quantity and

quality of time (Kala), this was naturally taken as 0o. In the modern

times the latitude is better known as the angular distance from

Greenwich, where the officially accepted 0o meridian runs. Thus a

place may have either eastern or western longitude from Greenwich and

either southern or northern latitude from the Equator. For example

New York lies at 74o West of Greenwich and at 40o43' north of the

equator. This is usually indicated thus: 74W00, 40N43. Paris is

located at 2E20 and 48N52. The longitude will influence which planets

will be above the horizon, and which ones will be under the horizon.

For example while there's noon in New York, there will be night in

Delhi. So in one chart the Sun is above the horizon, while in another

it's under it, although the natives were born at the same time

cosmically. So the latitude determines, where the Lagna (ascendant)

will be, i.e. which sign or nakshatra will be rising on the eastern

horizon at the time of birth.

>

> 2. THE DIVISION OF THE SKY GLOBE

>

> We can look at the sky above us as a globe around the Earth. Thus

for determining positions in the sky we will again need two

coordinates.

>

> 2.1. The Celestial Equator (Nadivritta)

>

> The celestial equator is the extension of the Earth's equator in

the skies, and it divides the sky globe into two halves.

>

> 2.2. The Declination (Kranti)

>

> This will be the angular distance of a heavenly body from the

celestial equator. It will be either negative if the planet is above

the northern hemisphere, or positive, in case the planet is above the

eastern hemisphere. The declination is also called Ayana. Thus the

Sun's yearly movement is divided into two parts, called Uttarayana

and Dakshinayana. The Sun reaches the southest point of its traectory

at the time of the winter solstice (Dec. 23) and from there it begins

travelling north, thus its declination gradually decreases. It

crosses the equator at the time of the vernal equinoxe (March 21)

when on the whole Earth the duration of day and night is equal. Then

it proceeds towards the northern hemisphere up until the point of

summer solstice when the Sun is above the northest point of the Earth

and we have the longest day in the northern hemisphere and the

shortest night. After that the declination begins increasing from the

lowest negative degree, and coming to the point of autumn equinoxe.

At this time the declination of the Sun equals 0 again, and it keeps

increasing positively till the point of winter solstice again.

>

> 2.3. The Ecliptic (Ravimarga)

>

> The ecliptic is the Sun's above described path, which forms a

curved line, which once a year touches the Tropic of Cancer (during

summer solstice) and also once the Tropic of Carpicorn (during winter

solstice), and crosses the equator twice a year at the time of the

equinoxes.

>

> 2.4. The Celestial Latitude (Kshepa)

>

> This is the angular distance of a planet from the ecliptic (the

Sun's path). It is negative if the planet is to the north from the

ecliptic and is positive if it is to the south from it.

>

> 3. THE CIRCLE OF THE ZODIAC

>

> 3.1. The Zodiac (Bhacakra)

>

> This is a broad band in the sky extending 9 degrees on either side

of the ecliptic and comprised of different constellations

(nakshatras). The planets never get very far away from the ecliptic,

therefore they are always within this belt. As the circle has no

beginning, again, as in the case of the terrestrial longitudes, we

should select an arbitrary point in the skies as the beginning of the

zodiac, which will be determined by the placement of certain stars

(nakshatras), since Parashara gave the definition that only the

grahas move, and the rest of the bodies is fixed. The zodiac consists

of 360 degrees of arc (rekhas). Each degree has 60 minutes (kala) and

each minute has 60 seconds (vikala). Thus the full extent of the

zodiac may also be expressed as 21 600 minutes or 129 600 seconds of

arc. There are further submeasurements like para, paratpara and

tatpara.

>

> 3.2. The 0o of the Zodiac

>

> This point is determined on the basis of the placement of the star

which is known as Zeta Piscium in the west. This star is no longer

visible so much, therefore we can determine the exact middle of the

zodiac (180o) by the position of the star Spica.

>

> 3.3. The Tropical (Sayana) and Sidereal (Nirayana) Zodiac

>

> The above statements reveal that the zodiac used in Vedic astrology

is linked with the stars, and is immovable in comparison to them. On

the other hand, observation confirms that the Sun's yearly cycle on

the Ecliptic does not fully coincide with it's making a complete

circle relative to the stars, but the former is a bit shorter. This

in other words means that the Sun at the time of vernal equinoxe will

not come back to the same point of the sidereal zodiac, but a little

less than that. This is called precession. The tropical zodiac is

fixed to the Sun's movement through the ecliptic, and thus it's

called the movable (sayana) zodiac.

>

> 3.4. The Precession (Ayanamsha)

>

> As the two zodiacs are rotating compared to each other, there's a

certain cycle to it, which is 25 870 solar years long. Then there is

a certain point of coincidence, when the 0 degrees of both zodiacs

exactly coincide. Although authorities differ on this, the most

widely accepted opinion is that the last coincidence was at the

vernal equinoxe in 285 AD. There are also different opinions

regarding the yearly value of precession. Varaha Mihira states that

it's approximately 50 1/3 vikalas or seconds of arc. Of course the

precession has a negative value, so the vernal equinoxe is pushed

back to Pisces, then Aquarius etc. over the years. Also the value of

the ayanamsha is not linear but cyclical, as it describes the change

of the position of the ecliptic towards the celestial equator.

>

> 3.5. The Ayanamsha Value

>

> Out of the number of suggested precessional values, the Lahiri or

Chitra Paksha Ayanamsha stands out as the most accurate, although

testing with divisional charts indicates that even this may be

inaccurate for a couple of seconds of arc. But until a more exact

ayanamsha value is suggested, this is recommended for calculations.

Lahiri Ayanamsha is verified on the basis of the placement of the

above mentioned star Spica, which forms the exact middle of the

Chitra nakshatra. According to this system, the Ayanamsha value at

the present time is 23o52'40". This means that the Sun will this much

fall behind the 0o Aries of the sidereal zodiac at the time of the

vernal equinoxe. So it will be somewhere around 6 degrees of Pisces.

>

> 4. THE DIVISIONS OF THE ZODIAC

>

> 4.1. The Nakshatra Chakra

>

> As we have mentioned earlier, the basis of the division of the

zodiac is the placement of different constellations in it. The

constellations are divided into areas in the sky, each of which

covers 13o20' of the whole zodiac. Thus there are 27 nakshatras

beginning from Ashwini and ending with Revati. There is also a 28th

nakshatra called Abhijit. This is an intercalary Nakshatra, i.e. it

does not have any own extension, rather it ocuppies the last quarter

of the Uttarashadha Nakshatra and the first 1/15th part of the

Shravana Nakshatra, i.e. it extends from 276°40' to 280°53 1/3'

of

the zodiac. The division of Nakshatras is based on the Moon, which

makes a complete cycle in the zodiac within one month. The Moon

spends approximately one day in each Nakshatra. Every Nakshatra may

be further divided into four quarters (padas) 3°20' each. Thus the

zodiac will have 108 nakshatra padas, which are also called navamshas

(1/9th of a sign).

>

> 4.2. The Rasi Chakra

>

> There other main method for the division of the zodiac is based on

the Sun. The Sun travels through the zodiac within one year, and

during this he meets the Moon 12 times. Thus there will be 12 months

within one year. Therefore we could divide the zodiac into 12 rasis

or signs, in which the Sun will spend one month each. These signs

will have an extent of 30°.

>

> 4.3. The Divisional charts (Amsas or Vargas)

>

> The signs of the zodiac may be further divided into subparts.

Maharishi Parashara and other Jyotish authors have specifically

mentioned the following subdivisions of the signs: Hora (D-2),

Drekkana (D-3), Caturthamsa (D-4), Panchamsa (D-5), Sashthamsa (D-6),

Saptamsa (D-7), Ashtamsa (D-8), Navamsa (D-9), Dasamsa (D-10),

Rudramsa (D-11), Dwadasamsa (D-12), Shodasamsa (D-16) Vimsamsa (D-

20), Siddhamsa (D-24), Nakshatramsa (D-27), Trimsamsa (D-30),

Khavedamsa (D-40), Akshavedamsa (D-45), Shashtyamsa (D-60),

Ashtottaramsa (D-108), Dwadasamsa-Dwadasamsa (D-144) and Nadiamsa (D-

150). The most important divisional chart is however the Navamsha, as

it is based both on the division of the Sun and the Moon.

>

> 4.4. The Celestial Longitude (Sphuta)

>

> The position of the planets in the zodiac is expressed through the

celestial longitude, which is counted from the beginning of Aries.

Sometimes the degree of the planet within a sign is indicated, or

also its position in the Nakshatra padas and the divisional charts.

>

> Assignments:

>

> 1. Explain the changing of the seasons and its connection with the

above mentioned astronomical factors.

> 2. There are some days of the year when the Sun either doesn't rise

or set above certain parts of the globe. Please explain this

phenomenon.

> 3. Parasara mentions two classes of heavenly bodies: the moeving

and non-moving ones. Please explain, what will be the difference

between their roles in the astrological interpretation.

> 4. If you are able to construct your own chart, please do it and

explain as many astronomical principles from it as you can

(terrestrial latitude/longitude, season, Sun's cycle, Sunrise/Sunset

etc.). Also try to determine which planets are above and under the

horizon in your chart. In which Ayana the Sun is?

>

> Yours,

>

> Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer

> <gauranga@b...>

> Phone: +36-309-140-839

> Jyotish Remedies:

> WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET

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Respected Gurujis,

 

Please find my attempt at Lesson 1 down below. I did have some questions before

I could make an attempt.

 

Questions/Clarifications:

=================

1. In section 1.1, it is written that there is an imaginary line running around

the Earth in the exact middle that divides the Earth into northern and southern

hemisphere. The difference is visible in the changes of seasons. The question is

how does this alone make the location of a native a determinant factor? And

next, even if we assume that it IS a factor just based on change of seasons,

does it only divide the Earth into TWO parts or more than that? In other words,

what about two people born in the northern hemisphere at the same time in

different locations?

 

2. In section 2.2, the second line is 'It will be either negative if the planet

is above the northern hemisphere or positve in case the planet is above the

eastern hemisphere'. Why northern and eastern? Why not northern and southern? I

would like to request you to make it clearer by diagrams, if possible.

 

3. Is the ecliptic or Ravimarga really an ellipse or is it a curved line? or arc of a circle?

 

4. If possible, could you please provide a diagram to provide an example for the

definition of the celestial latitude. I am unable to visualise it on my own.

 

 

Assignments:

 

1. Explain the changing of the seasons and its connection with the

above mentioned astronomical factors.

Answer - The change of seasons is due to the angle sun rays hit the Earth and

the distance between the Earth and the Sun. In other words, the tilt of the

Earth towards the Sun and Earth's elliptical revolution around the sun. Thus,

the northern hemisphere experiences summer when the Earth is closest to the Sun

AND the north pole is tilted towards the Sun. In the same way, the southern

hemisphere experiences summer when the Earth is closest to the Sun AND the

south pole is tilted towards the Sun.

2. There are some days of the year when the Sun either doesn’t

rise or set above certain parts of the globe. Please explain this phenomenon.

Answer - This is again due to the tilt of the Earth towards the Sun. When north

pole is tilted towards the Sun, the Earth's rotation around its own axis is not

sufficient enough for the north pole to 'face away' from the Sun, hence, the Sun

shines 24 hours on the north pole (during summer). At the same time, the south

pole is tilted 'away' from the Sun and the Earth's rotation around its own axis

is not sufficient enough for the south pole to 'face into' the Sun, hence, Sun

does not show up on the south pole (during winter).

3. Parasara mentions two classes of heavenly bodies: the moeving

and non-moving ones. Please explain, what will be the difference between their

roles in the astrological interpretation.

Answer - Well, the astrological interpretation of moving and non-moving heavenly

bodies could be the extent to which these heavenly bodies bring about changes in

people's lives. In my view, the only difference between a moving and non-moving

object is the fact that it 'APPEARS' to be moving or non-moving and not that it

actually is not moving. For example, a person jogging on a jogging machine might

appear still from far, however, it is wrong to say that he is not moving or that

he does not have energy to move. True that this apparent movement or

non-movement itself might determine the extent of changes in people's lives

which again is a matter of what gets apparent to the people in their own lives.

Another interpretation could be that the background of the moving objects and

the foreground of the non-moving objects changes constantly. This is to say

that a moving object has a different non-moving object in its background at two

different points of time.

4. If you are able to construct your own chart, please do it and

explain as many astronomical principles from it as you can (terrestrial

latitude/longitude, season, Sun’s cycle, Sunrise/Sunset etc.). Also try to

determine which planets are above and under the horizon in your chart. In which

Ayana the Sun is?

Answer - The latitude and longitude is determined by my birth place. Season was

winter because of Earth's tilt towards the Sun and its circum-path around the

Sun. I was born just before sunrise. The birth chart is enclosed, however, I

did not prepare it myself instead, I used JH Lite 4.0. The planets above the

horizon are the ones that one could have seen (if possible) in the sky at the

time of my birth. From the horoscope, the planets above the horizon are the

ones placed in houses 7th to 12th, i.e., Moon, Mars, Saturn, Rahu and Venus.

The planets below the horizon are the ones contained in the houses 1st to 6th,

i.e., Sun, Mercury, Jupiter and Ketu. Sun was in dakshinayana.

 

Best Regards,

Abhilekh

 

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