RE: Query/Birth times

November 3, 2001

Namaste,

One method that I have been working with is Janma Vighati...

this will clearly tell you of the native is a male / female.

So, if you use the present time given from the birth certificate

and it does not yield the correct sex ( Male or Female and eunuch ) then

you know rectification is required. You can read more about this on page 24

of COVA. I think this also appears in more detail in Jamini Sutras, and BPHS.

Here's an example ( if you have interest) - I am correcting my birth time here:

1. Take the expired ghatis from Sunrise to birth time.2. Multiply them by 60 to

get the amount of Vighatis. 3. Roundup the amount of vighatis to the nearest

integer.4. Remove multiples of 9.5. Evaluate the remainder and match the Graha

day of the week ( Sun = 1, Mon = 2....Ketu = 0 , or no remainder anda perfect

integer)5. Surya, Guru , Rahu and Mangala = male birth; Sukra, Moon, Ketu =

female; Buddha and Sani =eunuch.

Hence:1. My Birth time - Sun rise on 17th of July 1952 = 15:22:50 - 4:31 =

11:31:50 or 11.53055 hrs1a. (11.53055/ 24) X 60 = 28.826375 Ghatis 2. 28.826375

X 60 = 1729.5825 Vighati or3. 1730 Vighatis 4. Expunge multiples of 9 ( 1730/9)

= 192 with a remainder of 2A. Birth time 1: ( 15:22:00 per birth

certificate)gives me 1728 Vighatis - with a 0 remainder, therefore Ketu's rule

and a female birth again.A. Birth time 2: (15:22:50)Now in order of weekdays:

the remainder of 2 = Monday,ruled by Chandra and indicates a female birth (

which doesn't fit me)B. Birth time 3: ( 15:22:30)Yields 1729 Vighatis with a

remainder of 1. This gives me Ravi and a male birth

I use B. for male birth... again, in my chart I was fine tuning the actual time

of the ambilical cordbeing cut... it makes sense that 30 seconds elapsed from

the time the native was *delivered* tothe time the cord to mother was cut.

! Shanti, Shanti Shanti Frank in Austin , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com

Gauranga Das [gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net]

Saturday, November 03, 2001 6:42 AMdasgupta pinakiCc:

sjvc; vedic astrologySubject: [sjvc] Re:

QueryJAYA JAGANNATHA!Dear Dasgupta,Namaste.>> Dear Gaurangaji,>> Can you tell

me when a correction in birth time is> needed in predicting future?. and how

does one> calculate the strength of the stars ( Planets) in the> natal chart.

Of course in the software the residual> strength is obtained which gives a fair

idea and also> do teh shadbala analysis. is there any other> method...do let me

know..1. Birth time: Actually birth time correction or verifying the birth

timeshould almost always be applied because an exact chart including

thesensitive areas like higher D-charts, special ascendants, Dasa Praveshcharts

etc. will be correcxt only if the input data (i.e. time and place)are highly

exact. There's a number of reasons why the exact borth time maynot be

available:- The doctors didn't know that the time to be taken is that of

cutting theumbilical chord- No one cared to note the actual time, so it's not

exact- The time measuring instrument was inaccurate- The birth data were

destroyed or unknown.So practically no chart is guaranteed to have the correct

time unlesssverified astrologically.As for planetary strength, there's a lot of

other sources for strength.There's Vimsopaka Bala, Amsa Bala, residential

strength (Sphuta Bala),Ashtakavarga Bala, etc. Also Jaimini gives another way

to determine therelative strength of signs for determining starting Dsas etc.

All this isdescribed in Narasimha's book, and I think an extract is also given

on hiswebsite.Yours,Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net>

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November 4, 2001

JAYA JAGANNATHA!

Dear Frank,

Namaste.

Janma Vighatio is a good and valid method, but it works only for fine-tuning

within a few seconds or munites. A few additional hints till we have a more

elaborate class on this:

1. If you don't know the birth time, only the date, use a Prashna chart to find

out the Janma Lagna. The Navamsha Lagna of the Prashna chart or its trines will

indicate the Janma Lagna of the native.

2. If the tentative Lagna is found, use life events and D-charts down from D-1

to D-60 possibly to fine-tune the birth time.

3. Dasas may also bve used with caution. Vimshottari is not so sensitive towards

birth times, so MahaDasa/Bhukti may be used for narrowing down the time frame.

Rasi dasas usually depend on the Lagna, so remain the same for the same Lagna.

Kalachakra Dasa however is much more sensitive, so it can be used only for

fine-tuning.

4. Other methods for narrowing down the birth time is the assessment of special

Lagnas like Hora, Ghati and Pranapada which move with increasing speed in the

successive order. Pranapada changes signs about every 5-6 minutes.

5. For real fine-tuning the we have the Kunda method and the Vihgati method

described by Frank. We will explain how to use them later.

Yours,

Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> Phone:

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