Guest guest Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Sriram, One of the subjects in Jyotish,which is difficult to teach and understand is this Arudha. It is not easy to grasp the real meaning. You have to think and dwell and meditate in this subject. If you can check in Vedic - Astrology list, Narasimha has given many examples. Still, it will be difficult to comprehend the real meaning. It is good that you started to think on the meaning. Understand the example I gave for the 5th house and expand it for other commonly used houses like 2nd 4th 9th and 10th. You asked only about two confusions of 6th from Lagna and AL, but there is one more confusion to this is Arudha of 6th house. Any how we will see all this things when we come to the Arudha lesson. Meanwhile, try to meditate on this subject and read more from Vedic Astrology list. Thanks Solai Kannan PS: I apologise, there were some typo in my previous mail. Sriram.N.Kizhakkemadam [snk110 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Friday, November 02, 2001 2:16 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Re: 6th house - Thanks.HARE RAMA KRISHNAVYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH.Pujya Solai Gurudev and List members, Thanks for your reply to my question.While it cleared some of my doubts,you said that "From the (6th from) Arudha, it shows the may attached to the perception of quantity of enemies.More later". I am waiting for your future replies in this regard.Your sishya,K.N.Sriramsjvc, "Solai Kannan" <solai@t...> wrote:> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH> JAYA JAGANNATHA> > Namaste Sriram,> > Here is a quick reply. Comments are below.> I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for> enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes> that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the> material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the> 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya> peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna.> > SOLAI: >From the lagna or the houses counted from lagna we will see the> benefit or support or happiness or troubles related to the house. For> example, from the 5th house from lagna, it is seen whether a person will get> happiness or enjoy the benefit of children. If the 5th house is completely> afflicted the native may not get children. But, if it is slightly afflicted> or afflicted but has benefic influence, the native will have children but he> may have have the happiness from them. Say he may be separated from them or> get friction with them etc,> > Whereas from the 6th house from Arudha, we see the number of children. How> the world perceive that a person get happiness or Putrasukham? They perceive> from the no. of children the native has. They need not bothered about> whether the native really enjoys with the children.> > Similarly, for the enemies, 6th from lagna shows, whether a person is> under the attack of enemies etc. From the Arudha, it shows the may attached> to the perception of quantity of enemies. More later.> we> are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural> Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But,> the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha?> > SOLAI:> Atma :- cannot be seen, it has to be realise.> Manas:- is not real. When you are sleeping, when you are under anesthesia> or when a person under coma, Manas or Mind is nowhere. So, it is not real.> It is only a maya. To know more about think and find out Where is Sriram in> your body?> Lagna or body: is real you can see it feel it and you call that body as> real.> > The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered> from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar> rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different> signification), readings are taken from Sun].> > SOLAI: You mentioned earlier Sun is Atmakaraka. What is mean by Atmakara.> He is the soul. That is why soul comes from father. What is given in> standard texts are digests only, we have to infer a lot from them.> > Is it because the 6th> from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the> other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no> role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high> reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand> thoroughly confused.Please guide me.> > No. The role of Atmakaraka is seen from the Chara Atmakaraka. Whatever we> want we have to read from there. But, let us leave the western concepts.> > Your sishya,> > K.N.Sriram> > Thanks> Solai Kannan> > Sponsor> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2001 Report Share Posted November 3, 2001 Namaste, Re: Arudha ( or Mount and refers to Image or Maya in this world) Sanjay has given some good instructions on this subject on tape, from the BAVA lectures in London, Sept 20th , 2001. Ordering: Working With Arudha's tape # VA 52 ( also ask for all of Sanjay's work)Philip Royall13 Piccadilly Mill, Lower Street, Stroud GL5 2HT, UK. fax (+ 44 1453 766411). Email : confcass (AT) lineone (DOT) net Pls consider picking up this tape, and pls. read Upadesa Sutra's - Chapt 1 Qtr 1 addresses this and the rules applied to this( page 14 starts with Pada Lagna).Also - Narasimha's book ( Vedic Astrology ) has a Chapter on Arudha's. And varahamihiraArudhapada.pdf has an article on Arudha's if ytou can access this site. hope this helps! ! Shanti, Shanti Shanti Frank in Austin , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com Solai Kannan [solai (AT) theihb (DOT) com] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 12:39 AMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] 6th house - Thanks. OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Sriram, One of the subjects in Jyotish,which is difficult to teach and understand is this Arudha. It is not easy to grasp the real meaning. You have to think and dwell and meditate in this subject. If you can check in Vedic - Astrology list, Narasimha has given many examples. Still, it will be difficult to comprehend the real meaning. It is good that you started to think on the meaning. Understand the example I gave for the 5th house and expand it for other commonly used houses like 2nd 4th 9th and 10th. You asked only about two confusions of 6th from Lagna and AL, but there is one more confusion to this is Arudha of 6th house. Any how we will see all this things when we come to the Arudha lesson. Meanwhile, try to meditate on this subject and read more from Vedic Astrology list. Thanks Solai Kannan PS: I apologise, there were some typo in my previous mail. Sriram.N.Kizhakkemadam [snk110 (AT) (DOT) co.uk]Friday, November 02, 2001 2:16 AMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Re: 6th house - Thanks.HARE RAMA KRISHNAVYAM VYASADEVAYA NAMAH.Pujya Solai Gurudev and List members, Thanks for your reply to my question.While it cleared some of my doubts,you said that "From the (6th from) Arudha, it shows the may attached to the perception of quantity of enemies.More later". I am waiting for your future replies in this regard.Your sishya,K.N.Sriramsjvc, "Solai Kannan" <solai@t...> wrote:> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH> JAYA JAGANNATHA> > Namaste Sriram,> > Here is a quick reply. Comments are below.> I have some questions on the 6th house.The 6th house stands for> enemies, debt , diseases etc.In COVA, Gurudev Shri Sanjay Rath writes> that there are no true enemies and that enemies exist only in the> material plane.Thus, enemies have to be seen from the arudha of the> 6th house.Further, lagna is satyapeetha and arudha lagna is maya> peetha.If so, what enemies are seen in the 6th house from lagna.> > SOLAI: >From the lagna or the houses counted from lagna we will see the> benefit or support or happiness or troubles related to the house. For> example, from the 5th house from lagna, it is seen whether a person will get> happiness or enjoy the benefit of children. If the 5th house is completely> afflicted the native may not get children. But, if it is slightly afflicted> or afflicted but has benefic influence, the native will have children but he> may have have the happiness from them. Say he may be separated from them or> get friction with them etc,> > Whereas from the 6th house from Arudha, we see the number of children. How> the world perceive that a person get happiness or Putrasukham? They perceive> from the no. of children the native has. They need not bothered about> whether the native really enjoys with the children.> > Similarly, for the enemies, 6th from lagna shows, whether a person is> under the attack of enemies etc. From the Arudha, it shows the may attached> to the perception of quantity of enemies. More later.> we> are made up of soul,mind and body(material energy).Sun is the natural> Atmakarak, chandra is manah karak and the lagna stands for body.But,> the body is not the truth.Then how can the lagna be the satyapeetha?> > SOLAI:> Atma :- cannot be seen, it has to be realise.> Manas:- is not real. When you are sleeping, when you are under anesthesia> or when a person under coma, Manas or Mind is nowhere. So, it is not real.> It is only a maya. To know more about think and find out Where is Sriram in> your body?> Lagna or body: is real you can see it feel it and you call that body as> real.> > The standard texts say that the chart readings have to be deciphered> from lagna(body) as well as moon(mind).But, I have not seen a similar> rule for Sun(soul).[Of course, in matter of father(a different> signification), readings are taken from Sun].> > SOLAI: You mentioned earlier Sun is Atmakaraka. What is mean by Atmakara.> He is the soul. That is why soul comes from father. What is given in> standard texts are digests only, we have to infer a lot from them.> > Is it because the 6th> from Sun has no role as the soul has no enemies and similarly the> other houses such as 8th(soul does not die) etc also have no> role.This might be contrary to western astrology in which high> reliance is placed on readings from sun.At this point, i stand> thoroughly confused.Please guide me.> > No. The role of Atmakaraka is seen from the Chara Atmakaraka. Whatever we> want we have to read from there. But, let us leave the western concepts.> > Your sishya,> > K.N.Sriram> > Thanks> Solai Kannan> > Sponsor> > > > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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