Guest guest Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 Dear Solai, Thank you for your reply which I accept. However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2001 Report Share Posted November 25, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, Here it is other way round. Badhakesh will lose its badhakesh quality. But, if it is a yogakaraka, then the qualities of the yogakaraka also will be lost. But, if that planet is otherwise strong with benefic influence, the yoga will fructify in a foreign place. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:35 PMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Solai, Thank you for your reply which I accept. However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Respected Solaiji, I am Aqua asc. and 9L Ve is badhakesh-though yogakaraka. It is with 6L Moon and 8L Me in 8H Virgo and also combusted by swavarga 7L Sun. It is aspected by Ra (from Tau), Ma (from Ge) and lagna lord Sa (from Can) by grahadristi as well as having argala from AK,11L & 2L Ju in 9th. It also receive lava argala from lagna lord Sa. In this case, do Ve loose its badhakesh or yogakaraka quality? If not how it may show its color? Regards, Dasgupta - Solai Kannan sjvc Monday, November 26, 2001 11:18 AM RE: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, Here it is other way round. Badhakesh will lose its badhakesh quality. But, if it is a yogakaraka, then the qualities of the yogakaraka also will be lost. But, if that planet is otherwise strong with benefic influence, the yoga will fructify in a foreign place. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:35 PMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Solai, Thank you for your reply which I accept. However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Dear Solai, Sorry to keep on with this but I am somehow unclear regarding this combination. Will that mean neutralization of YK Mars for every Leo Asc. native with Mars in 6/8/12 respectively ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Monday, November 26, 2001 6:48 AM RE: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, Here it is other way round. Badhakesh will lose its badhakesh quality. But, if it is a yogakaraka, then the qualities of the yogakaraka also will be lost. But, if that planet is otherwise strong with benefic influence, the yoga will fructify in a foreign place. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:35 PMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Solai, Thank you for your reply which I accept. However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, No. I didn't say it will neutralise. It depends many other factors. Say this combination with strength and benefic association in 8th house may mean fructification of yoga in occult field. I do not have an example for this specific combination. But, I know a person with Gajakesari yoga involving lakshmi yoga in 12th house. He was suffering all his life. After moving to a foreign country, he is continuously prospering day by day. But, his spendings are uncontrollable. So, he lose money in many ways. However, if the same combination is in Kendra or in Kona, the effect would have been much better. This is how we interpret the yogakaraka placement in dusthana. An yogakaraka is a yogakaraka. He will give his effect anywhere, provided he is supported by other benefic influences. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Monday, November 26, 2001 11:58 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Solai, Sorry to keep on with this but I am somehow unclear regarding this combination. Will that mean neutralization of YK Mars for every Leo Asc. native with Mars in 6/8/12 respectively ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Monday, November 26, 2001 6:48 AM RE: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, Here it is other way round. Badhakesh will lose its badhakesh quality. But, if it is a yogakaraka, then the qualities of the yogakaraka also will be lost. But, if that planet is otherwise strong with benefic influence, the yoga will fructify in a foreign place. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:35 PMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Solai, Thank you for your reply which I accept. However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Your use of is subject to the Your use of Groups is subject to the Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Dear Solai Guruji, Here is an example of chart where badhakesh is yogakaraka Venus in 8 th house. August 12, 1978 19:26 = 7:26 pm 78e32, 15n30 +5:30 GMT Best Regards, Venkat > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Jay, > > No. I didn't say it will neutralise. It depends many other factors. Say this > combination with strength and benefic association in 8th house may mean > fructification of yoga in occult field. I do not have an example for this > specific combination. But, I know a person with Gajakesari yoga involving > lakshmi yoga in 12th house. He was suffering all his life. After moving to a > foreign country, he is continuously prospering day by day. But, his > spendings are uncontrollable. So, he lose money in many ways. However, if > the same combination is in Kendra or in Kona, the effect would have been > much better. This is how we interpret the yogakaraka placement in dusthana. > An yogakaraka is a yogakaraka. He will give his effect anywhere, provided he > is supported by other benefic influences. > > Thanks > Solai Kannan > > Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...] > Monday, November 26, 2001 11:58 AM > sjvc > Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? > > > Dear Solai, > > Sorry to keep on with this but I am somehow unclear regarding this > combination. > > Will that mean neutralization of YK Mars for every Leo Asc. native with > Mars in 6/8/12 respectively ? > > Kind regards > > Jay Weiss > - > Solai Kannan > sjvc > Monday, November 26, 2001 6:48 AM > RE: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? > > > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Jay, > > Here it is other way round. Badhakesh will lose its badhakesh quality. > But, if it is a yogakaraka, then the qualities of the yogakaraka also will > be lost. But, if that planet is otherwise strong with benefic influence, the > yoga will fructify in a foreign place. > > Thanks > Solai Kannan > > Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...] > Sunday, November 25, 2001 5:35 PM > sjvc > Re: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? > > > Dear Solai, > > Thank you for your reply which I accept. > However I am still in the 'dark' as to the interpretation of such a > planet placed in a Dusthana house, such as for instance the 12th which is > already the house of loss (causing obstruction to losses ? ... ) ? > > Kind regards > > Jay Weiss > > - > Solai Kannan > sjvc > Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:27 AM > [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? > > > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Jay, > > When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of > the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is > placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This > indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for > example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women > will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person > restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be > seen. > > Thanks > Solai Kannan > > > Jay Weiss [jayhw@t...] > Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PM > sjvc > [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? > > > Dear Gurus, > > Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is > also the Baadhaka ? > How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or > negative placement) ? > > Kind regards > > Jay Weiss > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Terms of Service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH ------ Respscted Solaiji Namaskar I have posted a related question to the list . I have not found an answere to that . Here it is-- I was reading at that time the line no. 27 0f page no. 318 of the book(Book of Gurudev on Remedial measures) where it was written 'Mars conjoins the sun and offering of a lamp is necessary '. Before that , it was written that '' in addition , Mars being the ninth lord is in badhaka house and conjoins badhakesh Mercury indicating that the Deity he used to worship earlier (which should be associated with Mars) has been forgotten and hence the troubles '. Please let me ask a few questions in this regard. 1. If 9th lord is conjoined with badhak lord , is that indicate that the Jataka has forgotten worshiping his ista in his previous life?And is this the cause of ALL his trouble in his/her present life? 2.If the combination happen to be in 6th 8th and 12th houses ,is the trouble intensifies ? 3. If that combination in a Dusthana is aspected by a malefic , does it show the cause of his neglecting his deity? For example , aspect of mars may indicate the cause to be passion , Rahu , saturn may indicate disease? Am I right? If not , please rectify me. 4. If the combination in a dusthana is aspected by jupiter, does it indicate that Divine Grace is eager to help , provided the Jataka aspires / prays for it? If the combination is unaspected by Jupiter or Jupiter Himself is involved in the combination , does it mean that God's grace will not be available to the Jataka ? If you see my horoscope (which is attached herewith) , there you will find badhak Sun is conjoined with 9th lord Mercury , which is my Ista as it is in the 12th house from AK in Navamsa( and in 2nd drekkana, signifying Sri Krishna) in 6th House ,aspected by Marak and Atmakarak Mars (who Himself is afflicted by rahu and sun in navamsa,other than his being the 6th lord from Navamsa Lagna).Is the combination of badhak and 9th lord in 6th house (the house of disease ) aspected by AK mars is the cause of my physical suffering with so many diseases , which is due to my neglect of Krishna-Sadhana in my previous life, and involvement of AK in the combination will remind me through sufferings my NEGLECT of past life and bring me back to my path of intense Krishna-sadhana?? In those lines of your( It was asked to Gurudev) book , you have written about offering of a lamp . Why so ? How is that done? Please enlighten me about all these. Solaiji , please clear my confusion. With regards Yours sincerely Dilip. - Solai Kannan sjvc Sunday, November 25, 2001 12:27 AM [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Jay, When yogakaraka is also baadhakesh, depending on the placement of the baadekesh, the result will be altered. For example, if baadhakesh is placed in bhagaybava (9th house), it will obstruct the fortune. This indicates neglecting guru and ishta deity in the past birth. Say for example, if Venus is involved, excessive passion or involvement with women will damage the fortune, unless aspected by benefic. But, if the same person restricts himself from such activities, the results of yogakarak can be seen. Thanks Solai Kannan Jay Weiss [jayhw (AT) telia (DOT) com]Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 2:23 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc] Yogakaraka as Baadhaka ??? Dear Gurus, Can any of you please comment on the case where a Yogakaraka is also the Baadhaka ? How should we interpret such a planet (and it's positive or negative placement) ? Kind regards Jay Weiss Attachment: (application/octet-stream) dilip.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Om Gurave Namah ---------------- Shri Sanjay and Solai, Namaste. I also seem to have this combination of Baadhak as Yogakaraka, i.e, Mercury who is the 7th (Badhaka sthana) and 10th lord placed in 9H (Leo) with 9th lord Sun and Rahu, a yogakaraka combination. This is aspected by Guru from Lagna (Sagittarius). The 7th house also happens to be A5 and A4. Though I have always been arbitrarily interested in philosophy and theology, it is only during the current Rahu-Mercury vimsottari dasa (from feb 2001), that I have had the good fortune of properly channeling these interests by discovering astrology, SJVC and learning from gurus like you. I see in this only the yogakaraka aspect and no baadhak aspect. Further during this period, I also observed that my interactions with spouse, public and superiors have improved and I also got promoted to the higher scale along with my husband (of Gemini Lagna, with Mercury & Moon in Lagna and currently running dasa-antardasa Mercury-Mercury since Feb 2001). So neither my 9th house nor my 7th&10th house significations suffered despite so much of Mercury, the Baadhak. Why is it so? Is it because 1) Mercury is combust, and his significations are usurped by the Sun, who is a great benefic being the 9th lord? Since mercury is in 9th house(protection), the baadhak effect is neutralised? 2) Aspect of Guru from Lagna ? 3) Transit of Guru in Gemini, my 7th house? I think I joined SJVC towards the end of July, after this transit started. 4) The Yogakaraka aspect is more powerful than baadhak aspect, as moolatrikona of mercury is in Virgo(10th house)? Please do guide me. Regards, Lakshmi GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Dear Lakshmi, > > The 7th house also happens to be A5 and A4. Though I > have always been arbitrarily interested in philosophy > and theology, it is only during the current > Rahu-Mercury vimsottari dasa (from feb 2001), that I > have had the good fortune of properly channeling these > interests by discovering astrology, SJVC and learning > from gurus like you. I see in this only the yogakaraka > aspect and no baadhak aspect. Mercury being combust by 9th lord sun, will result in mercury giving results pertaining to sun in its dasa. Sun / Rahu both have argala on the 8th house and 11th house. Hence the above interests. Gurujis please correct if iam incorrect. regards, Shriram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Om Gurave Namah ---------------- Namaste Sriram, Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I do see a lot of pointers to astrology. Apart from argala, Rahu aspects 8th lord Moon, 2nd lord Saturn and 5th house. The 5th lord Mars himself aspects Sun/Rahu/Mercury. Perhaps this dasa itself is almost totally a 9th house matter! And, Rahu himself being in 12th house to AL, promotes spirituality. But Rahu mahadasa had been running for 8-9 years now, so I do feel that Mercury/Sun (also a karaka for jyotish)somehow triggered the recent events. Mercury has low shadbala & astakavarga strength and clearly he is no match for the powerful 9th lord Sun, who is vargottama, has good shadbala and astakavarga strength. Or these things will not matter where a planet is combust? Guruji, please do clarify. Regards, Lakshmi --- shris1 wrote: > Dear Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > The 7th house also happens to be A5 and A4. Though > I > > have always been arbitrarily interested in > philosophy > > and theology, it is only during the current > > Rahu-Mercury vimsottari dasa (from feb 2001), > that I > > have had the good fortune of properly channeling > these > > interests by discovering astrology, SJVC and > learning > > from gurus like you. I see in this only the > yogakaraka > > aspect and no baadhak aspect. > > Mercury being combust by 9th lord sun, will > result in mercury > giving results pertaining to sun in its dasa. > > Sun / Rahu both have argala on the 8th house and > 11th house. Hence > the above interests. > > Gurujis please correct if iam incorrect. > > regards, > Shriram > > GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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