Guest guest Posted December 8, 2001 Report Share Posted December 8, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste Nandanji and other respected members, Guruji Solai desired that we spend sometime in learning the lessons associated with the stories of planets. Let us 'reflect' under the watchful eyes of Gurudev and Guruji Solai, so that any glaring errors in our thoughts are nipped in the bud. Consider the following: 1. On the planet MOON, i have given a SLIGHTLY expanded version of the story of moon-rohini-daksha, at the end of this mail. (This story is basically about the origin of Somanath temple - one of the 12 jyotirlinga temples in India. These 12 Jyotirlinga temples are linked to the 12 houses of the Zodiac in pp 48 of Vedic Remedies in Astrology by Gurudev Also see the details in small print on pp 47) As per this version of the story of Somanath, IT WAS LORD SHIVA WHO SAVED MOON FROM WASTING AWAY! 2. Another story connected to KARTIKEYA (Skanda/Kumara swamy/Saravanabhava/ Sanmatura/ Sadanana/Devasenapathi/Subrahmanya etc.,) states that he was born in a forest of arrow-like grass (hence the name Saravanabhava!) and that HE WAS REARED/NOURISHED BY SIX DIVINE MOTHERS OF THE CONSTELLATION KRITTIKA (Pleiades). Here, Kartikeya was born of Shiva and Shakti, when Gods desperately needed Him to lead them against the demon Tarakasura. 3. ROHINI represents, beauty, artistic talents and expertise in 'erotic arts'. The colour red is associated with Rohini, which means passion and sensuality. The symbol of Rohini is a carriage drawn by Oxen (represents wealth) - leads to the world of wealth, luxury and sensuality. 4. As already said, Krittika - the six divine mothers 'nourished' Kartikeya (devasenapathi). The quality of 'nourishment' is where moon's deep exaltation is, I suspect, and the intricate connection of Krittika-Kartikeya to Shiva & Shakti. Moon is a great bhakt of Lord Shiva, ever since. Also it is said, in a spiritual sense, Kartikeya/Subrahmanya means 'one who tends the spiritual growth of aspirants'. These are a few bits and pieces of information, to kindle your thoughts. Now the story of Somnath Jyotirlinga: ======== The origin of Jyotirlinga - Somanatha Rohini and other twenty-six daughters, were given in marriage to the moon by Daksa, the great soul. Out of these twenty-seven wives, moon did not love any one so much at any time as he loved Rohini. The others became distressed and sought refuge in their father. On hearing this, Daksha too was struck with grief. He requested moon to mend his ways and to take care of all his wives. Being subjected to the force of destiny the moon did not accept his advice. Infatuated of Rohini, he continued to neglect others. After repeated requests, when the moon still did not listen to Daksha, he was forced to curse moon. Just as he cursed him, the moon contracted consumption within a trice. When he was being wasted away there was a great hue and cry. The gods and the sages became extremely agitated and felt miserable. Informed and implored by the moon, Indra and other gods, Vasistha and other sages sought refuge in Brahma and mentioned everything to him. On hearing their words, Brahma said moon was always wicked and defiled. The wicked moon had committed many unholy deeds. (The wicked moon went to Brihaspati's house and abducted his wife Tara. He then allied himself with the Daityas. Having sought refuge in the Daityas he fought against the god though forbidden by Brahma and Atri). Brahma suggested that the moon should propitiate Shiva as only HE could cure him. The moon performed the penance continuously for six months at a place presently known as Somanath temple. Lord Shiva, was favorably disposed towards him at the end and granted him that his body will not be wasted away, but he will wax and wane as he will move from one wife to another. For increasing the glory and greatness of the region and the moon, Shiva stayed there in the name of Someswara. ======= I have collected some stories linking 10 Jyotirlinga temples to 10 rasis. The information/story I have is incomplete for Nageshwar and Bhimeshwar/Bhimashankar. I am trying for more information on these two deities. I shall post this to the group as soon as I get it. Any help on this is welcome! ......and your comments please. Let us keep the discussion going on moon and other planets as desired by Guruji Solai. Regards viswanadham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2001 Report Share Posted December 10, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Vishwanatham, It is a good input and try for other planets also. Why others are silent on this issue? I think many like, Gopal Krishna can contribute. Thanks Solai Kannan vishwanatham [vishwanatham (AT) rocketmail (DOT) com]08 December 2001 4:29 PMTo: sjvcSubject: [sjvc] Planet Moon - comments invitedHare Rama KrishnaNamaste Nandanji and other respected members,Guruji Solai desired that we spend sometime in learning the lessons associated with the stories of planets. Let us 'reflect' under the watchful eyes of Gurudev and Guruji Solai, so that any glaring errors in our thoughts are nipped in the bud.Consider the following:1. On the planet MOON, i have given a SLIGHTLY expanded version of the story of moon-rohini-daksha, at the end of this mail. (This story is basically about the origin of Somanath temple - one of the 12 jyotirlinga temples in India. These 12 Jyotirlinga temples are linked to the 12 houses of the Zodiac in pp 48 of Vedic Remedies in Astrology by Gurudev Also see the details in small print on pp 47)As per this version of the story of Somanath, IT WAS LORD SHIVA WHO SAVED MOON FROM WASTING AWAY!2. Another story connected to KARTIKEYA (Skanda/Kumara swamy/Saravanabhava/ Sanmatura/ Sadanana/Devasenapathi/Subrahmanya etc.,) states that he was born in a forest of arrow-like grass (hence the name Saravanabhava!) and that HE WAS REARED/NOURISHED BY SIX DIVINE MOTHERS OF THE CONSTELLATION KRITTIKA (Pleiades). Here, Kartikeya was born of Shiva and Shakti, when Gods desperately needed Him to lead them against the demon Tarakasura.3. ROHINI represents, beauty, artistic talents and expertise in 'erotic arts'. The colour red is associated with Rohini, which means passion and sensuality. The symbol of Rohini is a carriage drawn by Oxen (represents wealth) - leads to the world of wealth, luxury and sensuality.4. As already said, Krittika - the six divine mothers 'nourished' Kartikeya (devasenapathi). The quality of 'nourishment' is where moon's deep exaltation is, I suspect, and the intricate connection of Krittika-Kartikeya to Shiva & Shakti. Moon is a great bhakt of Lord Shiva, ever since. Also it is said, in a spiritual sense, Kartikeya/Subrahmanya means 'one who tends the spiritual growth of aspirants'.These are a few bits and pieces of information, to kindle your thoughts.Now the story of Somnath Jyotirlinga: ========The origin of Jyotirlinga - SomanathaRohini and other twenty-six daughters, were given in marriage to the moon by Daksa, the great soul. Out of these twenty-seven wives, moon did not love any one so much at any time as he loved Rohini. The others became distressed and sought refuge in their father.On hearing this, Daksha too was struck with grief. He requested moon to mend his ways and to take care of all his wives. Being subjected to the force of destiny the moon did not accept his advice. Infatuated of Rohini, he continued to neglect others. After repeated requests, when the moon still did not listen to Daksha, he was forced to curse moon. Just as he cursed him, the moon contracted consumption within a trice.When he was being wasted away there was a great hue and cry. The gods and the sages became extremely agitated and felt miserable. Informed and implored by the moon, Indra and other gods, Vasistha and other sages sought refuge in Brahma and mentioned everything to him. On hearing their words, Brahma said moon was always wicked and defiled. The wicked moon had committed many unholy deeds.(The wicked moon went to Brihaspati's house and abducted his wife Tara. He then allied himself with the Daityas. Having sought refuge in the Daityas he fought against the god though forbidden by Brahma and Atri).Brahma suggested that the moon should propitiate Shiva as only HE could cure him.The moon performed the penance continuously for six months at a place presently known as Somanath temple. Lord Shiva, was favorably disposed towards him at the end and granted him that his body will not be wasted away, but he will wax and wane as he will move from one wife to another.For increasing the glory and greatness of the region and the moon, Shiva stayed there in the name of Someswara. =======I have collected some stories linking 10 Jyotirlinga temples to 10 rasis. The information/story I have is incomplete for Nageshwar and Bhimeshwar/Bhimashankar. I am trying for more information on these two deities. I shall post this to the group as soon as I get it. Any help on this is welcome!.....and your comments please. Let us keep the discussion going on moon and other planets as desired by Guruji Solai.RegardsviswanadhamYour use of is subject to the Please note the new International Hospital of Bahrain Email address. It is changed from user (AT) theihb (DOT) com to user (AT) ihb (DOT) net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2001 Report Share Posted December 11, 2001 Om Krishna Guru Namaste Solaiji, >>I think many like, Gopal Krishna can contribute. I'll soon contribute from my side on different stories. Rather, I was not able to decide from where I should start. BTW, I'm Gopal Kishan and not Gopal Krishna. (I'm sorry to interfere if the mail is for some Mr. Gopal Krishna on the list.) Om Tat Sat Gopal Krishan DodaKrishanFriend GopalKrishanDoda Dedicated to Lotus feet of Lord Vishnu - Solai Kannan sjvc Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:58 AM RE: [sjvc] Planet Moon - comments invited OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Vishwanatham, It is a good input and try for other planets also. Why others are silent on this issue? I think many like, Gopal Krishna can contribute. Thanks Solai Kannan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Hare Rama Krishna Guruji Solai, Namaste. Thanks for your encouraging words. I'll reflect on other planets (stories) and write them down for a spirited discussion from members. Two more points about planet moon's exaltation are as follows: 1. Quote from Bhagavad Gita chapter 15, text 13 " I enter into each planet and by my energy they stay in orbit. I become the moon and thereby supply the juice of life to all vegetables" Purport by Srila Prabhupada on the second part is " Simmilarly, it is due to the supreme personality of Godhead that the moon nourishes all vegetables. Due to the moon's influence, the vegetables become delicious. Without the moonshine, the vegetables can neither grow nor taste succulent. Human society is working, living comfortably and enjoying food due to the supply from the Supreme Lord. Otherwise, mankind could not survive. The word 'rasatmakah' is very significant. Everything becomes palatable by the agency of the Supreme Lord through the influence of the moon." The role of a nourisher could be on a material plane. 2. On a spiritual plane: The deity of Krittika is Agni, supreme purifier. Moon represents mind and only a pure mind can experience the spiritual bliss. This may be reason for the exaltation of moon in Krittika. Regards Your sisya viswanadham sjvc, "Solai Kannan" <solai@i...> wrote: > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Vishwanatham, > > It is a good input and try for other planets also. Why others are silent on > this issue? I think many like, Gopal Krishna can contribute. > > Thanks > Solai Kannan > > vishwanatham [vishwanatham@r...] > 08 December 2001 4:29 PM > sjvc > [sjvc] Planet Moon - comments invited > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > Namaste Nandanji and other respected members, > > Guruji Solai desired that we spend sometime in learning the lessons > associated with the stories of planets. Let us 'reflect' under the > watchful eyes of Gurudev and Guruji Solai, so that any glaring errors > in our thoughts are nipped in the bud. > > Consider the following: > > 1. On the planet MOON, i have given a SLIGHTLY expanded version > of the story of moon-rohini-daksha, at the end of this mail. (This > story is basically about the origin of Somanath temple - one of the > 12 jyotirlinga temples in India. These 12 Jyotirlinga temples are > linked to the 12 houses of the Zodiac in pp 48 of Vedic Remedies in > Astrology by Gurudev Also see the details in small print on pp 47) > As per this version of the story of Somanath, IT WAS LORD SHIVA WHO > SAVED MOON FROM WASTING AWAY! > > 2. Another story connected to KARTIKEYA (Skanda/Kumara > swamy/Saravanabhava/ Sanmatura/ Sadanana/Devasenapathi/Subrahmanya > etc.,) states that he was born in a forest of arrow-like grass (hence > the name Saravanabhava!) and that HE WAS REARED/NOURISHED BY SIX > DIVINE MOTHERS OF THE CONSTELLATION KRITTIKA (Pleiades). Here, > Kartikeya was born of Shiva and Shakti, when Gods desperately needed > Him to lead them against the demon Tarakasura. > > 3. ROHINI represents, beauty, artistic talents and expertise > in 'erotic arts'. The colour red is associated with Rohini, which > means passion and sensuality. The symbol of Rohini is a carriage > drawn by Oxen (represents wealth) - leads to the world of wealth, > luxury and sensuality. > > 4. As already said, Krittika - the six divine mothers 'nourished' > Kartikeya (devasenapathi). > > The quality of 'nourishment' is where moon's deep exaltation is, I > suspect, and the intricate connection of Krittika-Kartikeya to Shiva > & Shakti. Moon is a great bhakt of Lord Shiva, ever since. Also it is > said, in a spiritual sense, Kartikeya/Subrahmanya means 'one who > tends the spiritual growth of aspirants'. > > These are a few bits and pieces of information, to kindle your > thoughts. > > Now the story of Somnath Jyotirlinga: > > ======== > The origin of Jyotirlinga - Somanatha > > Rohini and other twenty-six daughters, were given in marriage to the > moon by Daksa, the great soul. Out of these twenty-seven wives, moon > did not love any one so much at any time as he loved Rohini. The > others became distressed and sought refuge in their father. > > On hearing this, Daksha too was struck with grief. He requested moon > to mend his ways and to take care of all his wives. Being subjected > to the force of destiny the moon did not accept his advice. > Infatuated of Rohini, he continued to neglect others. After repeated > requests, when the moon still did not listen to Daksha, he was forced > to curse moon. Just as he cursed him, the moon contracted consumption > within a trice. > > When he was being wasted away there was a great hue and cry. The gods > and the sages became extremely agitated and felt miserable. Informed > and implored by the moon, Indra and other gods, Vasistha and other > sages sought refuge in Brahma and mentioned everything to him. On > hearing their words, Brahma said moon was always wicked and defiled. > The wicked moon had committed many unholy deeds. > > (The wicked moon went to Brihaspati's house and abducted his wife > Tara. He then allied himself with the Daityas. Having sought refuge > in the Daityas he fought against the god though forbidden by Brahma > and Atri). > > Brahma suggested that the moon should propitiate Shiva as only HE > could cure him. > > The moon performed the penance continuously for six months at a place > presently known as Somanath temple. Lord Shiva, was favorably > disposed towards him at the end and granted him that his body will > not be wasted away, but he will wax and wane as he will move from one > wife to another. > > For increasing the glory and greatness of the region and the moon, > Shiva stayed there in the name of Someswara. > ======= > > I have collected some stories linking 10 Jyotirlinga temples to 10 > rasis. The information/story I have is incomplete for Nageshwar and > Bhimeshwar/Bhimashankar. I am trying for more information on these > two deities. I shall post this to the group as soon as I get it. Any > help on this is welcome! > > .....and your comments please. Let us keep the discussion going on > moon and other planets as desired by Guruji Solai. > > > Regards > viswanadham > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > Please note the new International Hospital of Bahrain Email address. It is changed from > user@t... to user@i... 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Guest guest Posted December 13, 2001 Report Share Posted December 13, 2001 Solai Kannan wrote: <snipped> > OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH > JAYA JAGANNATHA > > Namaste Vishwanatham, > > It is a good input and try for other planets also. Why others are silent on > this issue? I think many like, Gopal Krishna can contribute. hare rama krishna The summaries which various people have posted and which are available on the internet are very useful for those who have previously read the stories in full. For the rest of us...they are simply confusing. There are so many basic questions. Surya who shines with such splendour should have sons like gems. But we have Saturn who always fights with him, and Karna who fought against the Pandavas. (How can Surya be unaware of the switch of Sanja and Chaya?) ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~ajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 >From the document that Nandan prepared: "Ve is also the only planet to move in an opposite direction in its revolution around the Sn, to that of all other planets (the teacher of the Asuras). It is the most circular among all the 7 planets' orbits." It reminded me of what Gurudeva had written in an email: When all the planets orbit the Sun in a clockwise direction, Venus orbits it in the anti-clockwise direction. It is the naturally wrong path and is the cause of all desire. ajit -- Ajit Krishnan ajit http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~ajit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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