Lesson 3, Subconscious, Silence and D-30

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- Rig-Veda, 1-89-i

 

Namaste Dilip:

I thought I would add a few things regarding your email ( below) because of it's

nature Maharishi Patanjali has direction and advice ...not so much on D30 chart

but on the Klesas ( or afflictions) you refer to e.g. "Old Samaskaras are

stored there, and they crop up again and again in the path of

sadhana".Patanjali teaches that the goal for supreme knowledge ( which includes

Jyotish as part of the Ved that

was cognized by the Rishi's) and the realization of Purusa. This is also called

Viveka-Kyhati or knowledgeof the distinction between Buddhi ( intellect) and

Purusa ( or the Transcendent).

1. Sattva Guna is predominant in Viveka-Buddhi or the final realization - BUT it

is not the means to it!

2. The state of Samprajnata Yoga needs to be attained by the native. This

starts with fixity or Ekagra ( one-pointed) mind . When one masters this

one-pointed ness it leads to Samprajnata Samadhi. This infers one meditating

and experiencing fixity and the transcendent by practicing Samyama made up

of Dharana, Dhyana, and Samadhi.2a. Why is this state of being of import? it

loosens the Klesas( past binding actions) to allow realization of Self.

Klesas ultimately are born form Avidya ( lack or truth - misapprehension about

the real nature of things) and include Asmita ( Egoism), Raga (

attachment) Dvesa ( Antipathy) and Abhinivesa ( fear of death)

that make up the 5 Klesas.

3. When the mind is freed from the operation of the 3 gunas, then only pure

consciousness exists and the native operates from Being or Self... this is

why Sri Krishna gives Arjuna the instruction to be without the 3 gunas (

Chapt II, sutra 45). This leads to skill in action, understanding, and the

ability to perform the highest level of Bhakti - So, Bhagavan instructs

Arjuna to be established in Being and perform actions " yogastah kuru karmani"

( Chapt II, sutra 48)

4. Why would we as practicing Jyotisha's be interested in this? We what to give

correct knowledge and know ( discriminate) only hr truth of a chart - this

comes be being ultimately established in

Rtambhara Prajna - unalloyed truth - or that which only knows the Truth.

That means the Jyotish is cognizing only the truth of one's (natives) past,

present and future though his/her analysis and predictions.

 

More can be discussed on this such as Vairagya ( detachment - other then mood

making of this stage),Paravairagya ( supreme detachment ) which yields

AsamprajnataSamadhi ( eliminating all fluctuations of

the mind), etc. ultimately unfolding the full potential of the individual .

 

! Shanti, Shanti Shanti Frank in Austin , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com

Dr.D.Banerjee [drdilip (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in]

Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:41 PMsjvcSubject: [sjvc]

Lesson 3, Subconscious, Silence and D-30

OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

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Respected Gurudev

Pranams

 

In lesson 3 , there is a reference of D-3o , which is studied to see Sadripu in

the subconscious plane. Please let me know the following things in relation to

it--

 

1. Subconscious mind is the area of difficulty for a sadhaka. Old Samaskaras are

stored there, and they crop up again and again in the path of sadhana .The six

Ripus are stored in that plane. Sri Aurobindo in his 'letters on Yoga' have

written-" The subconscient is a dark and ignorant region, so that it is natural

that the obscurer movements of nature should have more power there." ..."It is

only if the mind is silent that the subconscient can be empty."....."If the

subconscient is emptied, it would mean that you have got beyond the ordinary

consciousness.....". My questions are--

a) How to see D30 to look for the subconscious mind of a person?

b)How to see in D30 the possibility of a person making the subconscious mind

empty as referred to by Sri Aurobindo?

 

With Regards

Dilip.

 

 

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OM SRI GURAVE NAMAH

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Respected Gurudev

Pranams

 

In lesson 3 , there is a reference of D-3o , which is studied to see Sadripu in

the subconscious plane. Please let me know the following things in relation to

it--

 

1. Subconscious mind is the area of difficulty for a sadhaka. Old Samaskaras are

stored there, and they crop up again and again in the path of sadhana .The six

Ripus are stored in that plane. Sri Aurobindo in his 'letters on Yoga' have

written-" The subconscient is a dark and ignorant region, so that it is natural

that the obscurer movements of nature should have more power there." ..."It is

only if the mind is silent that the subconscient can be empty."....."If the

subconscient is emptied, it would mean that you have got beyond the ordinary

consciousness.....". My questions are--

a) How to see D30 to look for the subconscious mind of a person?

b)How to see in D30 the possibility of a person making the subconscious mind

empty as referred to by Sri Aurobindo?

 

With Regards

Dilip.

 

 

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