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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Ajit,

 

It is good that you come out with some questions. We should not take the meaning

literally. One who born out of Sun means, it is the outcome which evolved from

Sun. Sun represents soul or the starting of life. When life is started,

immediately, death accompanies it like shadow. So, they are at opposite ends.

Sun is exalted at the opening or rising sign Aries, Saturn is exalted at

exactly opposite in the maraka sthan of 7th house. While, in the reverse they

are debilitated or unhappy.

 

Similarly, we should not take Sun will not be unaware of Chaya. It is the maya

surrounded in the world. Death itself is maya when the soul passes through many

lives.

 

This is how we should interpret the stories to the various meanings of Jyotish.

That is why I asked the members to think and come out with some nice

interpretations, which will help the beginners. I got so many points like this

from the stories, but I will summaries them, after some lessons. Meanwhile, I

want the members to share their interpretations.

 

Thanks

Solai Kannan

ajit [ajit (AT) csd (DOT) uwo.ca]14 December

2001 8:45 AMsjvcSubject: Re: [sjvc] Planet Moon - comments

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Solai Kannan wrote:<snipped>> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH> JAYA JAGANNATHA> >

Namaste Vishwanatham,> > It is a good input and try for other planets also. Why

others are silent on> this issue? I think many like, Gopal Krishna can

contribute.hare rama krishnaThe summaries which various people have posted and

which are availableon the internet are very useful for those who have

previously read thestories in full. For the rest of us...they are simply

confusing.There are so many basic questions.Surya who shines with such

splendour should have sons like gems. But wehave Saturn who always fights with

him, and Karna who fought against thePandavas. (How can Surya be unaware of the

switch of Sanja and Chaya?) ajit-- Ajit

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hare rama krishna

 

Dear Guru,

 

Thank you for this wonderful exposition.

 

ajit

 

Solai Kannan wrote:

<snipped>

 

> OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

> JAYA JAGANNATHA

>

> Namaste Ajit,

>

> It is good that you come out with some questions. We should not take the

> meaning literally. One who born out of Sun means, it is the outcome which

> evolved from Sun. Sun represents soul or the starting of life. When life is

> started, immediately, death accompanies it like shadow. So, they are at

> opposite ends. Sun is exalted at the opening or rising sign Aries, Saturn is

> exalted at exactly opposite in the maraka sthan of 7th house. While, in the

> reverse they are debilitated or unhappy.

>

> Similarly, we should not take Sun will not be unaware of Chaya. It is the

> maya surrounded in the world. Death itself is maya when the soul passes

> through many lives.

>

> This is how we should interpret the stories to the various meanings of

> Jyotish. That is why I asked the members to think and come out with some

> nice interpretations, which will help the beginners. I got so many points

> like this from the stories, but I will summaries them, after some lessons.

> Meanwhile, I want the members to share their interpretations.

>

> Thanks

> Solai Kannan

 

--

Ajit Krishnan

ajit

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~ajit

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Dear All

 

Just some addl thoughts:

 

1. Ma: From the story on Kartik versus Ganesh marrying 1st, we know why Ma

is called Bramhachari (ie loosely translated as: the abstainer in terms of

marriage/ sexual relationships)

 

2. Ke: Ke= Lord Ganesh is spiritual seeker, & ALSO a benefic for Upapada

(ie gives marriage). Seems contradictory. The above-mentioned same story

about Karkit vs Ganesh sheds light on the resolution. That is, Ke the

headless seeker-of-the-head seeks moksh, but ALSO seeks marriage, as a way

to settle down in life & be happy. There are various forms of/ urges

leading to renunciation (arising from disillusiionmen, or no urge to wards:

material comforts, family-continuation, partnership, etc). Ke's

renunciation urge does NOT arise from the marriage one. As would, eg, one

where Ve is in 8, etc

 

Regards

 

Nandan

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Om Gurave Namah

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Shri Solai,

 

Namaste. I have been “inactive” for quite sometime,

but the discussions going on in the list goaded me to

register my somewhat delayed response.

 

I think Shri Ajit wondered how Saturn and Karna could

have been Sun’s sons. Why not ? I recall from Nandan’s

post on Sun:

 

a)Sun had agreed to be lathed into 12 parts so that

his brilliance would scale down to bearable limits and

the world could survive …the ultimate “Sattwa” or a

voluntary cutting down /surrender of ego/self for the

sake of his responsibility. Don’t you see Karna here

who sacrificed his natural kavaca / personal power for

something he believed to be his duty, his Truth? Don’t

you see Saturn here who stoically bears the “stigma”

of the dark and feared lord despite having “light” at

his core?

 

I think Saturn’s where Sun has set limits to

himself/totally “ciphered” himself. It’s in this

darkness, in this dimension of himself, that he

showcases other luminaries like the soft moon and the

mildly twinkling stars. Is it possible otherwise? And,

isn’t this quintessential Sun?

 

b)I don’t think Sun, the dispassionate Entity, is

overly worried about Light or Darkness, Usha or Chaya,

because He is the Inner Light that shines

unequivocally everywhere, in all circumstances.

 

c)Sun agreed to be “embedded” while his brothers

refused to do so. Nandan mentioned something about Sun

riding on a single wheel(Ekachakra) representing

perfect balance. The single wheel is balanced because

it runs in a groove…chained to an untiring ceaseless

routine that never faltered in so many millennia.

Think of that dedication to duty despite loss of

freedom and THAT iron discipline. Karna, Yama and

Saturn again? Sri Rama also?

 

d)A “dead egg” given up as no good, grew up to be the

“Jyothi” that lights up the entire world by his

sacrifice of ego and devotion to Dharma. Is there any

one else who’s revered equally by devas, naras and

asuras in the three worlds? Can any one else, save

those sons of Sun that can cope with such tremendous

sacrifice and unsavoury responsibility?

 

NONE.

 

Regards,

Lakshmi

 

 

 

 

 

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