Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 dear sailesh i ahve downloaded two narayana dasa resources from the VA list. in th pdf document it is given as dual>fixed>moveable. and in word document it is given as moveable>fixed>dual. i dont know now which is correct haha. if it would have been vimshottari no problem i could have said something. This is narayana dasa and i have started learning it very recently. only god help me, i dont know ehich document to beleive haha. regards partha sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > dear sailesh > > > if i remmeber correctly > > the dual signs are stronger than the fixed signs and fixed greater > than moveable. you have quoted in revverse. > thus saturn will win and not rahu. > > > > regards > partha > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > It appears I was wrong after all ( and, hence, not so intelligent). > > > > You have considered only graha drishtis and I did not point out > this mistake. Later, when I saw Partha's mail, I realised my mistake. > ONLY RASI DRISHTIS TO ARE BE CONSIDERED. > > > > Now, if you ignore graha drishtis: > > > > KE/MA comparison: > > Neither of them get any drishti. > > > > Therefore, compare the strength based on the no. of years > contributed. > > > > Since Sc is odd-fotted, year count has to be forward. MA > contributes 6 years & KE only 3. > > > > Hence MA wins. > > > > SA/RA comparison: > > Boh are conjoined with 2 grahas each & one with JU, the other with > ME; neither of the two is either exalted or debilitated - hence, both > are equal. > > > > However, RA occupies a movable sign, which is stronger than the > dual sign occupied by SA. > > > > Hence RA wins. > > > > This matches JHL computations also. > > > > Apologies for my earlier mistake - and misguidance. > > > > With best wishes, > > > > Shailesh > > > > > > -- > ------------ > > > > > > 1.5.1 For comparing the strengths of Rahu/Saturn and Ketu/Mars. > > > > > > > > 1. First see if one lord is in that sign. If so, other lord is > example, if Saturn is in Aquarius, then invariably Rahu should be > taken as its lord. > > > > > > > > 2. If one of the above houses is with a larger number of > planets, then he is stronger. > > > > > > > > 3. "SWAAMI GURUJNA DRIGYOGAHA". If one of them is aspected by > more out of Jupiter, Mercury and its Dispositor, then he is stronger. > These carry equal weight. > > > > > > > > Example : > > > > Lets assume that we are considering Le & Aq(1/7). > > > > Lets also assume that Le is aspected by Ju & Aq by Me, and their > lords do not aspect their respective signs. Then there is a tie. > > > > > > > > When looking for the aspect of lord/dispositor, you can settle for > aspect from either lord, but you have to use the stronger lord in all > other rules. > > > > > > > > 4. If one of them is exalted, then he is stronger (opposite for > debilitation). > > > > > > > > 5. One occupying a sign of higher natural strength is > stronger. Dual < Fixed < Movable. > > > > > > > > 6. One giving more years is stronger. > > > > > > > > 7. A sign whose lord is more advanced in longitude from the > beginning of its sign is stronger. > > > > Note: Rahu and Ketu's advancement should be measured from > the end of sign rather than beginning. > > > > Hence Rahu/Ketu's actual advancement will be (30- > longitude). > > > > > > -- > ------------ > > > > > > - > > lakshmi ramesh > > sjvc > > Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:12 PM > > [sjvc] Narayana dasa-Saileshji > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > After reading your mail, I was inspired to run Narayana Dasa for > my chart, but got stuck regarding the following: > > > > > > > > 1) To calculate Scorpio dasa, I was in a fix whether to take > Mars or Ketu as Lord. Mars is in 6H and Ketu is in 3H, both are > alone, both are not aspected by either Jupiter or Mercury. But Ketu > is aspected by dispositor Saturn, so I considered Ketu as scorpio > lord. Though Mars is AK, Sanjayji said that we should not consider > this strength for Narayana Dasa, which is basically run from Lagna, > so I've ignored this point. > > > > 2) Trying to calculate Aquarius dasa, I was again on sticky > ground. Both Saturn & Rahu are with 2 planets each, which include > their dispositors. Saturn is with Jupiter, while Rahu is with Mercury > and is aspected by Jupiter. But I took Saturn as Aquarius lord > because he's in a dual sign and with a stronger Jupiter. > > > > > > > > Have I done the above correctly? I am not very confident and seek > your guidance. > > > > > > > > Saileshji, you are a very intelligent man, but more than that, > you are a VERY VERY nice person. I think that matters above every > thing else. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lakshmi > > > > P.S: I know that it sounds stupid to stay just across a street > and seek clarifications via mail. Can I come and wish you on your > birthday? 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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 Dear Partha, Dual signs are stronger than Fixed which is stronger than Movable. Cheers !!! Ash sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > dear sailesh > > i ahve downloaded two narayana dasa resources from the VA list. in th > pdf document it is given as dual>fixed>moveable. and in word document > it is given as moveable>fixed>dual. i dont know now which is correct > haha. if it would have been vimshottari no problem i could have said > something. This is narayana dasa and i have started learning it very > recently. only god help me, i dont know ehich document to beleive > haha. > > regards > partha > sjvc, "partvinu5" <partvinu5> wrote: > > dear sailesh > > > > > > if i remmeber correctly > > > > the dual signs are stronger than the fixed signs and fixed greater > > than moveable. you have quoted in revverse. > > thus saturn will win and not rahu. > > > > > > > > regards > > partha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sjvc, "Shailesh" <scchadha@h...> wrote: > > > Namaste Lakshmi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It appears I was wrong after all ( and, hence, not so > intelligent). > > > > > > You have considered only graha drishtis and I did not point out > > this mistake. Later, when I saw Partha's mail, I realised my > mistake. > > ONLY RASI DRISHTIS TO ARE BE CONSIDERED. > > > > > > Now, if you ignore graha drishtis: > > > > > > KE/MA comparison: > > > Neither of them get any drishti. > > > > > > Therefore, compare the strength based on the no. of years > > contributed. > > > > > > Since Sc is odd-fotted, year count has to be forward. MA > > contributes 6 years & KE only 3. > > > > > > Hence MA wins. > > > > > > SA/RA comparison: > > > Boh are conjoined with 2 grahas each & one with JU, the other > with > > ME; neither of the two is either exalted or debilitated - hence, > both > > are equal. > > > > > > However, RA occupies a movable sign, which is stronger than the > > dual sign occupied by SA. > > > > > > Hence RA wins. > > > > > > This matches JHL computations also. > > > > > > Apologies for my earlier mistake - and misguidance. > > > > > > With best wishes, > > > > > > Shailesh > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > 1.5.1 For comparing the strengths of Rahu/Saturn and Ketu/Mars. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. First see if one lord is in that sign. If so, other lord is > > example, if Saturn is in Aquarius, then invariably Rahu should be > > taken as its lord. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If one of the above houses is with a larger number of > > planets, then he is stronger. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. "SWAAMI GURUJNA DRIGYOGAHA". If one of them is aspected by > > more out of Jupiter, Mercury and its Dispositor, then he is > stronger. > > These carry equal weight. > > > > > > > > > > > > Example : > > > > > > Lets assume that we are considering Le & Aq(1/7). > > > > > > Lets also assume that Le is aspected by Ju & Aq by Me, and their > > lords do not aspect their respective signs. Then there is a tie. > > > > > > > > > > > > When looking for the aspect of lord/dispositor, you can settle > for > > aspect from either lord, but you have to use the stronger lord in > all > > other rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. If one of them is exalted, then he is stronger (opposite for > > debilitation). > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. One occupying a sign of higher natural strength is > > stronger. Dual < Fixed < Movable. > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. One giving more years is stronger. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. A sign whose lord is more advanced in longitude from the > > beginning of its sign is stronger. > > > > > > Note: Rahu and Ketu's advancement should be measured > from > > the end of sign rather than beginning. > > > > > > Hence Rahu/Ketu's actual advancement will be (30- > > longitude). > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------------ > > > > > > > > > - > > > lakshmi ramesh > > > sjvc > > > Tuesday, February 05, 2002 12:12 PM > > > [sjvc] Narayana dasa-Saileshji > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sailesh, > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading your mail, I was inspired to run Narayana Dasa > for > > my chart, but got stuck regarding the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) To calculate Scorpio dasa, I was in a fix whether to > take > > Mars or Ketu as Lord. Mars is in 6H and Ketu is in 3H, both are > > alone, both are not aspected by either Jupiter or Mercury. But > Ketu > > is aspected by dispositor Saturn, so I considered Ketu as scorpio > > lord. Though Mars is AK, Sanjayji said that we should not consider > > this strength for Narayana Dasa, which is basically run from Lagna, > > so I've ignored this point. > > > > > > 2) Trying to calculate Aquarius dasa, I was again on > sticky > > ground. Both Saturn & Rahu are with 2 planets each, which include > > their dispositors. Saturn is with Jupiter, while Rahu is with > Mercury > > and is aspected by Jupiter. But I took Saturn as Aquarius lord > > because he's in a dual sign and with a stronger Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have I done the above correctly? I am not very confident and > seek > > your guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Saileshji, you are a very intelligent man, but more than that, > > you are a VERY VERY nice person. I think that matters above every > > thing else. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Lakshmi > > > > > > P.S: I know that it sounds stupid to stay just across a street > > and seek clarifications via mail. Can I come and wish you on your > > birthday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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