Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Om Guruve Namah. Pranam to Guru's and Learned Members, Here is my attempt to understand the chart Jothi has furnished for help regarding marriage. Pisces rises with ketu in it. The 7th lord in placed in the 7th in his own house exalted. The other planets in the 7th house being Sun, the lord of 6th, Venus the 3rd and 8th lord and rahu. Venus the natural karaka for marriage is in fall. The 7th lord mercury is behind Sun and going by the teachings of Guru Sanjay when a planet is behind Sun the matters signified by the planet behind sun; in this case mercury loses the significations of the 7th lord. Atmakaraka (AK) is the sun. This AK sun is afflicted by Rahu and others thus making the people around the native go through a bad phase too. In other words the people who are with this native would have to suffer along with the native. Thus the affliction of the 7th house is due to mercury (also a bhadaka) combust and the presence of Venus (3rd and 8th lord) with rahu. The presence of Sun and Rahu in a sign is grahana yoga (?). The lagnadhipati Jupiter's aspect on the 7th house is the positive factor. The virodha argala of Saturn on the 7th house does not have a primary agrala from Libra as Libra is unoccupied. As this is papa argala it points to distress as a result on intervention to 7th house affairs. Primary Argala on the 7th house is generated by mars in the 11th which is obstructed by moon in the 3rd. Both mars and moon are in debility. Guru;'s need to help me out in interpreting this. Virodha argala is generated by Jupiter in the 10th from the 7th house. This is a positive factor as Jupiter is a first rate benefic. Upapada Aries is the UL whose lord, Mars is in debility in the 5th. Mars also happens to be the lord of the Dharma bhava (9th house) who is in fall, again not very conducive to married life. Mars also is the dara karaka who is in fall. The 2nd lord from UL is Venus who is placed in the 6th from UL in a common sign. The aspects on the 2nd from UL are from Mars by way of rasi dristi and Rahu also aspects the 2nd from UL. The lord of AL mercury is combust and lord of UL is in Fall. On the other hand AL lord Mercury also happens to be the lord of A7! again combust. (Am trying to plot the relationship between AL and UL on one hand and AL and A7 on the other hand. I hope guru;s here will tell me if i am on the right track.) In the Navamsa Mars who is the dara karaka is again in debility and this time mars debility (in D9) happens to be in the 9th house, the Dharma Bhava. Mars in D9 has the affliction of Rahu. The aspects on the 9th house in D9 is from Venus (Rasi drishti), Venus in D9 happens to be the 7th and 12th lord. Saturn aspects the 9th house in D9 by Rasi Drishti and Jupiter who is in debility (in D9 again) has a graha drishti on Cancer, the 9th house of D9!. Looking at the 7th lord in D9, Venus like-wise has Rasi Drishti of Mars and Rahu. Narayana Dasa running currently is Li-Vi from 2001-10-15 to 2002-08-15. (using 365.2425 days). Libra is the 3rd and 8th house lorded by Venus who is in fall in Virgo the 7th house. The Antara of Vi is of the 7th house itself. Lord of Virgo mercury exalted but combust. Transit Jupiter in Cancer would aspect the 2nd house from UL thus bringing out the event of marriage. But with adverse affliction pertaining to marriage significations i don't know how wise it is to get married right now. I am not confident in remedial measures as i am still in the progress of learning the same. But as far as i have learnt till date, the 12th from Sun (AK) in D9 has Moon and Mercury. Mercury has won over by way of more degrees. Thus the native would have to worship Vishnu. I would be obliged if Guru's and Learned members here can point out what i missed. I hope to learn better with all the help i get. Thanks Katti Narahari - jothi sjvc Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:41 PM [sjvc] help needed namaste guruji & all list members,i need help, the chart i have attached is of mycousin. there is lot of tension in the family. shewants to get married to a guy of her choice. ourfamily does not have any sort of objection to it. butour family want the boy to take the initiative incoming to the house along with his parents.according to the discussion had with my cousin, theboy's side are not ready for this intercaste marriage.they have asked the boy to walk out of the house incase he marries my cousin. the guy will be jobless ifhe walks out of the house.we do not know if the boy has informed his parentsabout this.the guy has not even taken the initiative to talk toour family.so our family has descided to give her 3 options.1. bring the boy & his parents to the house forfurther discussions regarding marriage.2. walk out of the house within 15 days & get marriedto the guy, for which the whole family will notsupport her in the future3. she is capable of commiting sucide, so even thatoption has been left open to her.she has already made an attemp of sucidei will be thankfull if we can lead her to the rightpath.birth details also given below15 - oct - 197717.20 - ISTMysoreregards jothiSend FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings!http://greetings. 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Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 Namaste Hari, Very good analysis. I would just like to add one or two points. Libra is satrupada -A6 and its lord Venus who's in virgo has neechabhanga. Since Li-Vi both have to do with Venus, marriage might be possible. But I think with Sun (lord of 6) and (lord of A6) both being in the 7th house, the troubles might continue. Venus being the lord of 3rd & 8th and the 2nd from UL, its debility, coupled with Mercury being combust, might point to breakdown of communications/misunderstandings with the spouse and faltering of courage. Vimsottari Dasa is of Mercury-Sun, both are capable of giving marriage, but Sun being the AK would give a tough time. I am also not very comfortable with the unredeemed debility of Mars. Hope the Gurus would correct us. Regards, Lakshmi Katti Narahari <katti_narahari (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Om Guruve Namah. Pranam to Guru's and Learned Members, Here is my attempt to understand the chart Jothi has furnished for help regarding marriage. Pisces rises with ketu in it. The 7th lord in placed in the 7th in his own house exalted. The other planets in the 7th house being Sun, the lord of 6th, Venus the 3rd and 8th lord and rahu. Venus the natural karaka for marriage is in fall. The 7th lord mercury is behind Sun and going by the teachings of Guru Sanjay when a planet is behind Sun the matters signified by the planet behind sun; in this case mercury loses the significations of the 7th lord. Atmakaraka (AK) is the sun. This AK sun is afflicted by Rahu and others thus making the people around the native go through a bad phase too. In other words the people who are with this native would have to suffer along with the native. Thus the affliction of the 7th house is due to mercury (also a bhadaka) combust and the presence of Venus (3rd and 8th lord) with rahu. The presence of Sun and Rahu in a sign is grahana yoga (?). The lagnadhipati Jupiter's aspect on the 7th house is the positive factor. The virodha argala of Saturn on the 7th house does not have a primary agrala from Libra as Libra is unoccupied. As this is papa argala it points to distress as a result on intervention to 7th house affairs. Primary Argala on the 7th house is generated by mars in the 11th which is obstructed by moon in the 3rd. Both mars and moon are in debility. Guru;'s need to help me out in interpreting this. Virodha argala is generated by Jupiter in the 10th from the 7th house. This is a positive factor as Jupiter is a first rate benefic. Upapada Aries is the UL whose lord, Mars is in debility in the 5th. Mars also happens to be the lord of the Dharma bhava (9th house) who is in fall, again not very conducive to married life. Mars also is the dara karaka who is in fall. The 2nd lord from UL is Venus who is placed in the 6th from UL in a common sign. The aspects on the 2nd from UL are from Mars by way of rasi dristi and Rahu also aspects the 2nd from UL. The lord of AL mercury is combust and lord of UL is in Fall. On the other hand AL lord Mercury also happens to be the lord of A7! again combust. (Am trying to plot the relationship between AL and UL on one hand and AL and A7 on the other hand. I hope guru;s here will tell me if i am on the right track.) In the Navamsa Mars who is the dara karaka is again in debility and this time mars debility (in D9) happens to be in the 9th house, the Dharma Bhava. Mars in D9 has the affliction of Rahu. The aspects on the 9th house in D9 is from Venus (Rasi drishti), Venus in D9 happens to be the 7th and 12th lord. Saturn aspects the 9th house in D9 by Rasi Drishti and Jupiter who is in debility (in D9 again) has a graha drishti on Cancer, the 9th house of D9!. Looking at the 7th lord in D9, Venus like-wise has Rasi Drishti of Mars and Rahu. Narayana Dasa running currently is Li-Vi from 2001-10-15 to 2002-08-15. (using 365.2425 days). Libra is the 3rd and 8th house lorded by Venus who is in fall in Virgo the 7th house. The Antara of Vi is of the 7th house itself. Lord of Virgo mercury exalted but combust. Transit Jupiter in Cancer would aspect the 2nd house from UL thus bringing out the event of marriage. But with adverse affliction pertaining to marriage significations i don't know how wise it is to get married right now. I am not confident in remedial measures as i am still in the progress of learning the same. But as far as i have learnt till date, the 12th from Sun (AK) in D9 has Moon and Mercury. Mercury has won over by way of more degrees. Thus the native would have to worship Vishnu. I would be obliged if Guru's and Learned members here can point out what i missed. I hope to learn better with all the help i get. Thanks Katti Narahari - jothi sjvc Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:41 PM [sjvc] help needed namaste guruji & all list members,i need help, the chart i have attached is of mycousin. there is lot of tension in the family. shewants to get married to a guy of her choice. ourfamily does not have any sort of objection to it. butour family want the boy to take the initiative incoming to the house along with his parents.according to the discussion had with my cousin, theboy's side are not ready for this intercaste marriage.they have asked the boy to walk out of the house incase he marries my cousin. the guy will be jobless ifhe walks out of the house.we do not know if the boy has informed his parentsabout this.the guy has not even taken the initiative to talk toour family.so our family has descided to give her 3 options.1. bring the boy & his parents to the house forfurther discussions regarding marriage.2. walk out of the house within 15 days & get marriedto the guy, for which the whole family will notsupport her in the future3. she is capable of commiting sucide, so even thatoption has been left open to her.she has already made an attemp of sucidei will be thankfull if we can lead her to the rightpath.birth details also given below15 - oct - 197717.20 - ISTMysoreregards jothiSend FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings!http://greetings. 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