Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 As per Visti's request, i am forwarding what he has to say about my post. I really hope Guru;s here comment on this attempt. Regds Narahari - Visti Larsen Katti Narahari Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:05 PM Re: [sjvc] help needed - My Attempt. Katti Narahari Vyam Vysadevaya Namah ---------------------------- Dear Narahari, This was a very good post. btw. Planets that move behind the Sun Astronomically, become Combust. Try drawing a heliocentric model(Sun as center), and move he grahas behind the Sun. Here are my comments on the chart, please forward this to SJVC-Class, if others wanto see my response. You pointed out exactly what the problem was.. perfect! The Maha Dasa of Mercury is running, and Mercury is Badhakesh, placed in 7th, in own sign. All the planets with Badhakesh, are going to show those who are causing trouble. Mercury in own sign, shows own relatives, and Sun(Father) is there along with Venus(Sister-younger actually) and Rahu(Maternal relatives). Mercury is also in Marana Avastha, when in 7th. This is very bad for Mercury as its also the significator for speech, and 2nd from Mercury would be 8th house! Mars was quite badly placed and vargottama, note that its also 2nd lord. When 2nd lord is in a Movable Navamsa, and afflicted by Malefics the person goes back on their word. The family is probably tired of her lying, and now they wanto punish her, by setting ultimatums. Mars is also with Rahu in 9th in Navamsa.. She doesn't have the 'highest' regard for her parents.. The Lagnamsa is close to the border. If its Scorpio, then she despises elders, and may have very strong fits of anger at time, whereas she's mostly contained. If its Sag, then she is highly flirtatious, and skilled at diplomatics. I have also attached the Prasna i drew, for those interested.. it shows the same. + Remedial Messures + The main problem causer is Mercury, the Badhakesh. Mercury has brought her into this situation because she treated a sibling badly(Merc in Cap-3rd in D-60). Most likely she broke a younger siblings marriage. Now for lessening family problems, the Kula Devata should be worshipped. 2nd house in Vimsamsa(D-20) is unoccupied, whilst aspected by Moon, Sun and Saturn, from Aqua. So she should worship Shiva. Note that Mercury is 4th lord in both Rasi and Vimsamsa, pointing at the Grama Devata. She should have arranged a large dance(7th) for the town(Grama Devata) to remove the karma. Instead she must now perform Dances for Shiva, on Mondays, reciting the mantra: "Om Namo Shivaya". Comments are emost welcome, and should be adressed to me privately, as i'm not a member of Sjvc-class. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Visti. - Katti Narahari sjvc Cc: Sat Shri ; Visti Larsen Monday, February 11, 2002 11:02 PM Re: [sjvc] help needed - My Attempt. Katti Narahari Om Guruve Namah. Pranam to Guru's and Learned Members, Here is my attempt to understand the chart Jothi has furnished for help regarding marriage. Pisces rises with ketu in it. The 7th lord in placed in the 7th in his own house exalted. The other planets in the 7th house being Sun, the lord of 6th, Venus the 3rd and 8th lord and rahu. Venus the natural karaka for marriage is in fall. The 7th lord mercury is behind Sun and going by the teachings of Guru Sanjay when a planet is behind Sun the matters signified by the planet behind sun; in this case mercury loses the significations of the 7th lord. Atmakaraka (AK) is the sun. This AK sun is afflicted by Rahu and others thus making the people around the native go through a bad phase too. In other words the people who are with this native would have to suffer along with the native. Thus the affliction of the 7th house is due to mercury (also a bhadaka) combust and the presence of Venus (3rd and 8th lord) with rahu. The presence of Sun and Rahu in a sign is grahana yoga (?). The lagnadhipati Jupiter's aspect on the 7th house is the positive factor. The virodha argala of Saturn on the 7th house does not have a primary agrala from Libra as Libra is unoccupied. As this is papa argala it points to distress as a result on intervention to 7th house affairs. Primary Argala on the 7th house is generated by mars in the 11th which is obstructed by moon in the 3rd. Both mars and moon are in debility. Guru;'s need to help me out in interpreting this. Virodha argala is generated by Jupiter in the 10th from the 7th house. This is a positive factor as Jupiter is a first rate benefic. Upapada Aries is the UL whose lord, Mars is in debility in the 5th. Mars also happens to be the lord of the Dharma bhava (9th house) who is in fall, again not very conducive to married life. Mars also is the dara karaka who is in fall. The 2nd lord from UL is Venus who is placed in the 6th from UL in a common sign. The aspects on the 2nd from UL are from Mars by way of rasi dristi and Rahu also aspects the 2nd from UL. The lord of AL mercury is combust and lord of UL is in Fall. On the other hand AL lord Mercury also happens to be the lord of A7! again combust. (Am trying to plot the relationship between AL and UL on one hand and AL and A7 on the other hand. I hope guru;s here will tell me if i am on the right track.) In the Navamsa Mars who is the dara karaka is again in debility and this time mars debility (in D9) happens to be in the 9th house, the Dharma Bhava. Mars in D9 has the affliction of Rahu. The aspects on the 9th house in D9 is from Venus (Rasi drishti), Venus in D9 happens to be the 7th and 12th lord. Saturn aspects the 9th house in D9 by Rasi Drishti and Jupiter who is in debility (in D9 again) has a graha drishti on Cancer, the 9th house of D9!. Looking at the 7th lord in D9, Venus like-wise has Rasi Drishti of Mars and Rahu. Narayana Dasa running currently is Li-Vi from 2001-10-15 to 2002-08-15. (using 365.2425 days). Libra is the 3rd and 8th house lorded by Venus who is in fall in Virgo the 7th house. The Antara of Vi is of the 7th house itself. Lord of Virgo mercury exalted but combust. Transit Jupiter in Cancer would aspect the 2nd house from UL thus bringing out the event of marriage. But with adverse affliction pertaining to marriage significations i don't know how wise it is to get married right now. I am not confident in remedial measures as i am still in the progress of learning the same. But as far as i have learnt till date, the 12th from Sun (AK) in D9 has Moon and Mercury. Mercury has won over by way of more degrees. Thus the native would have to worship Vishnu. I would be obliged if Guru's and Learned members here can point out what i missed. I hope to learn better with all the help i get. Thanks Katti Narahari - jothi sjvc Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:41 PM [sjvc] help needed namaste guruji & all list members,i need help, the chart i have attached is of mycousin. there is lot of tension in the family. shewants to get married to a guy of her choice. ourfamily does not have any sort of objection to it. butour family want the boy to take the initiative incoming to the house along with his parents.according to the discussion had with my cousin, theboy's side are not ready for this intercaste marriage.they have asked the boy to walk out of the house incase he marries my cousin. the guy will be jobless ifhe walks out of the house.we do not know if the boy has informed his parentsabout this.the guy has not even taken the initiative to talk toour family.so our family has descided to give her 3 options.1. bring the boy & his parents to the house forfurther discussions regarding marriage.2. walk out of the house within 15 days & get marriedto the guy, for which the whole family will notsupport her in the future3. she is capable of commiting sucide, so even thatoption has been left open to her.she has already made an attemp of sucidei will be thankfull if we can lead her to the rightpath.birth details also given below15 - oct - 197717.20 - ISTMysoreregards jothiSend FREE Valentine eCards with Greetings!http://greetings. 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Guest guest Posted February 11, 2002 Report Share Posted February 11, 2002 dear hari could u kindly elaborate on the following i just could not understand may be due to my less intellectual capacity or whatever >> Mars was quite badly placed and vargottama, note that its also 2nd lord. When 2nd lord is in a Movable Navamsa, and afflicted by Malefics the person goes back on their word. The family is probably tired of her lying, and now they wanto punish her, by setting ultimatums. i suppose the person concerned asked for her friend some help, i am not saying that one should hide truth. but are the above statements going to give any solace. > Mars is also with Rahu in 9th in Navamsa.. She doesn't have the 'highest' regard for her parents.. The Lagnamsa is close to the border. here is another example. the person asked a simple query regarding marriage and not regarding her charecter or other traits. > If its Scorpio, then she despises elders, and may have very strong fits of anger at time, whereas she's mostly contained. > If its Sag, then she is highly flirtatious, and skilled at diplomatics. another example phew!!! > Now for lessening family problems, the Kula Devata should be worshipped. > 2nd house in Vimsamsa(D-20) is unoccupied, whilst aspected by Moon, Sun and Saturn, from Aqua. So she should worship Shiva. > Note that Mercury is 4th lord in both Rasi and Vimsamsa, pointing at the Grama Devata. She should have arranged a large dance(7th) for the town(Grama Devata) to remove the karma. dance as remedial measure-may be as i am not really that well versed with remedial measures. could gurus throw light as to how dance can remove the doshas. > Instead she must now perform Dances for Shiva, on Mondays, reciting the mantra: "Om Namo Shivaya". praying shiva is the greatest mukti that a person can attain. shiva is the symbol of mercy. may shiva help all the souls to see the light. regards partha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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