Some Doubts on the basics

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

I am reading Saravali and encountered several discussions that bring some doubts to mind:

1. Sun and moon do not get involved in planetary war and therefore not subjected to Nipeedita?

that is they themselves do not fight where the victor has the higher

Longitude in a Rasi…is this correct?

2. Only the 5th and 9th are considered *strickly* trines and not Lagna.

According to the commentator, R.Santhanam,

the Lagna is not designated as a trine in any standard Jyotish literature

e.g. Horasara, Phal Deepika, etc.

I Can see that the Lagna is 9th from the 5th and 5th from the 9th - posing a

reasonable argument that it too is a trine.

Yet, the Lagna is then designated ONLY as a Kendra… can one of the

Guru's comment on this?

3. Planets rulerships - ( chapt 7, sloka 13)

Sun - rules the things I am familiar with , gold, kings BUT why poison ( Rahu

owner?) , weapons ( Mars owner?), Mantras ( Jupiter

or Mercury or Venus?)

Moon rules water, salt, etc. BUT why sesamum ( Sani owner?), arrows ( Mars owner?)

Mars rules blood, copper, army, red cloth. ( OK)

Mercury rules earth, minerals BUT why King ( Sun owner?), gold ( Sun owner?)

Jupiter rules virtue, auspiusiousness, BUT why gold ( Sun owner?) , bed ( Venus

owner?), conveyance ( Venus or Sani owner?)

Venus rules diamonds, ornaments, BUT why education? ( Jupiter or Mercury owners?)

Saturn rules black, lead, iron, etc but why dead relatives ( Rahu owner?)

Any help in understanding the questions above is welcomed….

Shanti, Shanti Shanti

        Frank in Austin

       , Fschmidt (AT) Austin (DOT) rr.com

[Guest guest]

Dear Frank,

Namaste,

I am reading Saravali and encountered

several discussions that bring some doubts to mind:

1. Sun and moon do not get involved

in planetary war and therefore not subjected to Nipeedita?

 

True. Surya and Chandra are lights, and thus immortal. The only grahas

they fear are Rahu and Ketu. There would be more on Graha Yuddha in future,

I suppose there would be an independent lesson on it...

 

2. Only the 5th and 9th are considered

*strickly* trines and not Lagna. According to the commentator, R.Santhanam,

the Lagna is not

designated as a trine in any standard Jyotish literature e.g. Horasara,

Phal Deepika, etc.

I Can see that

the Lagna is 9th from the 5th and 5th from the 9th - posing a reasonable

argument that it too is a trine.

Yet, the Lagna is then

designated ONLY as a Kendra… can one of the Guru's comment on this?

 

We beleive that Lagna is both Trikona and Kendra. You see trikona( three

konas). Lord of Lagna is always auspicious, being lord of kendra and kona

(Yog Karak). It is true that most of the authors recognized Lagna as kendra

only, for reasons of strength. Lagna is strong as kendras are strong. However,

it is auspicious for owner of chart as konas are auspicious. For the strength

reason, I suppose langa was omitted from Konas.

 

3. Planets rulerships - ( chapt 7,

sloka 13)

Sun - rules the things I am familiar

with , gold, kings BUT why poison ( Rahu owner?) , weapons ( Mars owner?),

Mantras ( Jupiter

 

I also cannot agree that Sun rules poison. Sun with Rahu would give one

expert in posines if in trines to Navamsa.. for weapons- sun rules light

weapons, such as knife. Mantras- sun rules the Temple, and the East is

place of worship, so Sun naturally rules Mantras as well.

 

Moon rules water, salt, etc.

BUT why sesamum ( Sani owner?), arrows ( Mars owner?)

Yes sesamum is under Shani, but Moon rules all flora and fauna.... Arrows

are mars and Guru (dhanu)

 

Mars rules blood, copper, army, red

cloth. ( OK)

Mercury rules earth, minerals BUT

why King ( Sun owner?), gold ( Sun owner?)

 

Not King but Prince, not gold but mixed metals

Jupiter rules virtue,

auspiusiousness, BUT why gold ( Sun owner?) , bed ( Venus owner?), conveyance

( Venus or Sani owner?)

Guru also rules gold, bed in temrs of regalship, not pleasures, conveyance

is Venus, but Guru holds exaltation of Venus so he would promote comforts..

 

Venus rules diamonds, ornaments,

BUT why education? ( Jupiter or Mercury owners?)

Not education, just artistic skills

 

Saturn rules black, lead, iron, etc

but why dead relatives ( Rahu owner?)

 

Saturn is Yama, the lord of Death

Hope that it helps,

Best wishes,

Zoran

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Zoran Radosavljevic

Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre

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