Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 Jaya Jagannath, Dear Dilip, What are the steps one should follow to deliniate the following in the horoscope of a child: 1. The promise of education [formal] 2. The type of education. 3. The break/failures in education. 4. Type of education. 5. Non-formal education - if any, and the type of that. 6. Remedial measures related to education. The promise of education: First and uppermost, you must analyze the first house and lagna to see the nature. Never forget the influences on moon, since the moon rules the mind. Then you should have correct Namamsa chart, since strong grahas in trines in Navamsa tend to mould the life of a person. 2. Then go to 5th house to see the inclinations of the mind and intelligence. See the karakas Guru and Budha for Dhi-shatki and Intellectual Capacity respectively. Interests would be strongly shown by what I suggested above. 3. Analyze the 4th house as it indicates education up to the university level. See the grahas in there. They will decide on the success or failures in formal education.. Examine the argalas and aspects too.Strongest grahas would decide on the type of education. 4. 9th house deals with university education. The most precise picture would be seen from Siddhamsha varga provided the birth time is correct 5. Non-formal knowledge is seen in 5th house, as well as ability to transfer that knowledge in the form of teaching. Otherwise, all influences on Lagna would speak of the type of interests one would have including knowldge.. 6. 3rd house would give skills and grahas in the third for have argala over 5th house indicating the skills which would infleunce the knowledge. For example if budha is well placed in3rd house in Rashi/Navamsa then skills for writting and scupturing would be there. 7. One must look at the dashas. 8. In addition 10th house should be closely examined to see the guiding factors in profession. 9.Remedial measures should target the grahas which are afflicted and involved in dasha periods afflicting the houses of education 10. Never forget the MOON and MERCURY. They indicate the mental faculties. GURU stands for Knowledge and see its position. So you see, its not easy, one must know a lot of other things... We may discuss it in the example cases; Best wishes, Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2002 Report Share Posted February 21, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA ---------- Namaste Zoran What are the steps one should follow to deliniate the following in the horoscope of a child: 1. The promise of education [formal] 2. The type of education. 3. The break/failures in education. 4. Type of education. 5. Non-formal education - if any, and the type of that. 6. Remedial measures related to education. Please let me know the steps. After applying those on a model horoscope, i shall inform my findings to you. In this process, it will be a learning experience. With regards Dilip Banerjee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ Namaste Zoran, Thank you for the guidance. I have attached a horoscope to apply the steps of councelling for education - as you have pointed out. First to see the nature of lagna. Lagna is taurus. The attributes of taurus ( pertaining to education) are, artistic , poised, skilled , firm, determined , practical. Mercury, the planet of intelligence is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Saturn is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Being a tamasic planet , it will impart laziness to the native.Moon is with Rahu in the 4th house . The mind is gloomy , often it will be agitated as moon-rahu combination is aspected by mars by graha dristi. As mercury is retrograde, and moon is afflicted by rahu and mars, the mind is chaotic. Am I right? But , please see , both lagna and moon are aspected by jupiter(debilitated, but undergone cancellation of debilitation), mars, and Lagnadhipati venus by rasi dristi. What does that mean? In navamsa, the trines are occupied by jupiter, saturn and ketu. Jupiter is in lagnamsa makes the native a karma yogi," who will excell in any field due to his intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion". Two malefics are in trines, so the native will have knowledge of mantra.Jupiter in swamsa indicates" a genius having knowledge in various branches and a great author". So, the promise in navamsa is not bad . Now , coming to the 5th house, we can see that the the 5th lord mercury is in kendra(good), is retrograde( bad) . 5th house is aspected by saturn, a malefic (bad),but saturn is yogakaraka( good). Sun , a malefic has argala on 5th house. Sun also aspects the 5th house by rasi dristi. Malefic planets mainly influence the 5th house e.g. saturn and sun. Can we conclude that the native has inclination towards technical education? Mercury is strong ;jupiter , though debilitated, has undergone cancellation of debility. The planet of intelligence and wisdom are not weak or afflicted. So, the native will be capable in receiving the technical education. A well known principle in matters of education is , that the influence on the 4th house, 4th lord, indicates the type of education the native will get.The influences are caused by 1. planet situated in those houses 2. planet aspecting those houses. 3. Rasi dispositor of the Lords of those houses. 4. Lord of Nakshatra dispositor of the lord of those houses. If natural malefic planets predominate in influencing these factors, the education the native will get ,is destined to be technical. And natural benific planets in this situation give non-technical educations. Now 4th house of the model horoscope is being analysed. 4th house has moon and rahu, aspected by mars. 4th lord is sun in the 8th house, the worst dusthana in the nakshatra of ketu . So, the 4th house is afflicted . it indicates break in education. As malefic planets predominate in influencing the 4th house and lord, the education is destined to be technical. Dear Zoran Guruji, you have written that 5th house is to be seen for inclination of the mind and intelligence. How to see this in the example horoscope? You have also written about the examination of the 4th house for education upto the unversity level, the failure or break of education , and the strongest influence on the 4th house by a planet will indicate the type of education. In the horoscope, exalted Mars from 9th house in graha dristi is influencing the 4th house in the strongest way, because a) it is exalted b) it is aspecting the 4th house both by graha dristi and rasi drsiti. Can I conclude the the native will get education dominated by mars? Then how to' fine tune' the type of education the native will receive? In the example horoscope, mercury has argala on the 4th house. Does it indicate the writing ability will be there in the native? 9th house deals with university education. Please see, that the 9th house is very strong by the presence of three planets, Venus- lagna and 6th lord, exalted Mars-7th and 12th lord, debilitated Jupiter-8th and 11th lord . But all the dusthana lords are influencing the 9th house. How to see the resultant effect in this case? How non-formal education is seen from 5th house? How should I see the 10th house , the guiding factors in profession, in the example horoscope? In vimsottari dasa scheme, the native will fotunately get the dasa of lagnadhipati venus strongly placed in the 9th house in the house of his friend, in the years of receiving education i.e. from the age of 3 years to 23 years of age. One very good yoga of education is present in the horoscope-- the Saraswati yoga. This indicates good promise of education. Moon , though having directional strength, is afflicted by rahu and mars. What is the remedy for this ? Please note that the moon is the 7th lord from the debilitated Jupiter and is situated in kendra from lagna, thereby , causing the cancellation of debility of Jupiter. So, it must be made strong and affliction on it should be guarded against. How? Mercury is retrograde , does it need any remedial measure? Please guide me more in my understanding of this important part of jyotish shastra. With regards Dilip Banerjee. .. - Zoran Radosavljevic sjvc Thursday, February 21, 2002 5:28 AM Re: [sjvc] To Zoran-councelling for education Jaya Jagannath, Dear Dilip, What are the steps one should follow to deliniate the following in the horoscope of a child: 1. The promise of education [formal] 2. The type of education. 3. The break/failures in education. 4. Type of education. 5. Non-formal education - if any, and the type of that. 6. Remedial measures related to education.The promise of education: First and uppermost, you must analyze the first house and lagna to see the nature. Never forget the influences on moon, since the moon rules the mind. Then you should have correct Namamsa chart, since strong grahas in trines in Navamsa tend to mould the life of a person. 2. Then go to 5th house to see the inclinations of the mind and intelligence. See the karakas Guru and Budha for Dhi-shatki and Intellectual Capacity respectively. Interests would be strongly shown by what I suggested above. 3. Analyze the 4th house as it indicates education up to the university level. See the grahas in there. They will decide on the success or failures in formal education.. Examine the argalas and aspects too.Strongest grahas would decide on the type of education. 4. 9th house deals with university education. The most precise picture would be seen from Siddhamsha varga provided the birth time is correct 5. Non-formal knowledge is seen in 5th house, as well as ability to transfer that knowledge in the form of teaching. Otherwise, all influences on Lagna would speak of the type of interests one would have including knowldge.. 6. 3rd house would give skills and grahas in the third for have argala over 5th house indicating the skills which would infleunce the knowledge. For example if budha is well placed in3rd house in Rashi/Navamsa then skills for writting and scupturing would be there. 7. One must look at the dashas. 8. In addition 10th house should be closely examined to see the guiding factors in profession. 9.Remedial measures should target the grahas which are afflicted and involved in dasha periods afflicting the houses of education 10. Never forget the MOON and MERCURY. They indicate the mental faculties. GURU stands for Knowledge and see its position. So you see, its not easy, one must know a lot of other things... We may discuss it in the example cases; Best wishes, Zoran -- Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Your use of is subject to the Attachment: (application/octet-stream) example.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ Namaste Zoran, Thank you for the guidance. I have attached a horoscope to apply the steps of councelling for education - as you have pointed out. First to see the nature of lagna. Lagna is taurus. The attributes of taurus ( pertaining to education) are, artistic , poised, skilled , firm, determined , practical. Mercury, the planet of intelligence is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Saturn is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Being a tamasic planet , it will impart laziness to the native.Moon is with Rahu in the 4th house . The mind is gloomy , often it will be agitated as moon-rahu combination is aspected by mars by graha dristi. As mercury is retrograde, and moon is afflicted by rahu and mars, the mind is chaotic. Am I right? But , please see , both lagna and moon are aspected by jupiter(debilitated, but undergone cancellation of debilitation), mars, and Lagnadhipati venus by rasi dristi. What does that mean? In navamsa, the trines are occupied by jupiter, saturn and ketu. Jupiter is in lagnamsa makes the native a karma yogi," who will excell in any field due to his intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion". Two malefics are in trines, so the native will have knowledge of mantra.Jupiter in swamsa indicates" a genius having knowledge in various branches and a great author". So, the promise in navamsa is not bad . Now , coming to the 5th house, we can see that the the 5th lord mercury is in kendra(good), is retrograde( bad) . 5th house is aspected by saturn, a malefic (bad),but saturn is yogakaraka( good). Sun , a malefic has argala on 5th house. Sun also aspects the 5th house by rasi dristi. Malefic planets mainly influence the 5th house e.g. saturn and sun. Can we conclude that the native has inclination towards technical education? Mercury is strong ;jupiter , though debilitated, has undergone cancellation of debility. The planet of intelligence and wisdom are not weak or afflicted. So, the native will be capable in receiving the technical education. A well known principle in matters of education is , that the influence on the 4th house, 4th lord, indicates the type of education the native will get.The influences are caused by 1. planet situated in those houses 2. planet aspecting those houses. 3. Rasi dispositor of the Lords of those houses. 4. Lord of Nakshatra dispositor of the lord of those houses. If natural malefic planets predominate in influencing these factors, the education the native will get ,is destined to be technical. And natural benific planets in this situation give non-technical educations. Now 4th house of the model horoscope is being analysed. 4th house has moon and rahu, aspected by mars. 4th lord is sun in the 8th house, the worst dusthana in the nakshatra of ketu . So, the 4th house is afflicted . it indicates break in education. As malefic planets predominate in influencing the 4th house and lord, the education is destined to be technical. Dear Zoran Guruji, you have written that 5th house is to be seen for inclination of the mind and intelligence. How to see this in the example horoscope? You have also written about the examination of the 4th house for education upto the unversity level, the failure or break of education , and the strongest influence on the 4th house by a planet will indicate the type of education. In the horoscope, exalted Mars from 9th house in graha dristi is influencing the 4th house in the strongest way, because a) it is exalted b) it is aspecting the 4th house both by graha dristi and rasi drsiti. Can I conclude the the native will get education dominated by mars? Then how to' fine tune' the type of education the native will receive? In the example horoscope, mercury has argala on the 4th house. Does it indicate the writing ability will be there in the native? 9th house deals with university education. Please see, that the 9th house is very strong by the presence of three planets, Venus- lagna and 6th lord, exalted Mars-7th and 12th lord, debilitated Jupiter-8th and 11th lord . But all the dusthana lords are influencing the 9th house. How to see the resultant effect in this case? How non-formal education is seen from 5th house? How should I see the 10th house , the guiding factors in profession, in the example horoscope? In vimsottari dasa scheme, the native will fotunately get the dasa of lagnadhipati venus strongly placed in the 9th house in the house of his friend, in the years of receiving education i.e. from the age of 3 years to 23 years of age. One very good yoga of education is present in the horoscope-- the Saraswati yoga. This indicates good promise of education. Moon , though having directional strength, is afflicted by rahu and mars. What is the remedy for this ? Please note that the moon is the 7th lord from the debilitated Jupiter and is situated in kendra from lagna, thereby , causing the cancellation of debility of Jupiter. So, it must be made strong and affliction on it should be guarded against. How? Mercury is retrograde , does it need any remedial measure? Please guide me more in my understanding of this important part of jyotish shastra. With regards Dilip Banerjee. .. Attachment: (application/octet-stream) example.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA ------ Namaste Zoran, Thank you for the guidance. I have attached a horoscope to apply the steps of councelling for education - as you have pointed out. First to see the nature of lagna. Lagna is taurus. The attributes of taurus ( pertaining to education) are, artistic , poised, skilled , firm, determined , practical. Mercury, the planet of intelligence is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Saturn is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Being a tamasic planet , it will impart laziness to the native.Moon is with Rahu in the 4th house . The mind is gloomy , often it will be agitated as moon-rahu combination is aspected by mars by graha dristi. As mercury is retrograde, and moon is afflicted by rahu and mars, the mind is chaotic. Am I right? But , please see , both lagna and moon are aspected by jupiter(debilitated, but undergone cancellation of debilitation), mars, and Lagnadhipati venus by rasi dristi. What does that mean? In navamsa, the trines are occupied by jupiter, saturn and ketu. Jupiter is in lagnamsa makes the native a karma yogi," who will excell in any field due to his intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion". Two malefics are in trines, so the native will have knowledge of mantra.Jupiter in swamsa indicates" a genius having knowledge in various branches and a great author". So, the promise in navamsa is not bad . Now , coming to the 5th house, we can see that the the 5th lord mercury is in kendra(good), is retrograde( bad) . 5th house is aspected by saturn, a malefic (bad),but saturn is yogakaraka( good). Sun , a malefic has argala on 5th house. Sun also aspects the 5th house by rasi dristi. Malefic planets mainly influence the 5th house e.g. saturn and sun. Can we conclude that the native has inclination towards technical education? Mercury is strong ;jupiter , though debilitated, has undergone cancellation of debility. The planet of intelligence and wisdom are not weak or afflicted. So, the native will be capable in receiving the technical education. A well known principle in matters of education is , that the influence on the 4th house, 4th lord, indicates the type of education the native will get.The influences are caused by 1. planet situated in those houses 2. planet aspecting those houses. 3. Rasi dispositor of the Lords of those houses. 4. Lord of Nakshatra dispositor of the lord of those houses. If natural malefic planets predominate in influencing these factors, the education the native will get ,is destined to be technical. And natural benific planets in this situation give non-technical educations. Now 4th house of the model horoscope is being analysed. 4th house has moon and rahu, aspected by mars. 4th lord is sun in the 8th house, the worst dusthana in the nakshatra of ketu . So, the 4th house is afflicted . it indicates break in education. As malefic planets predominate in influencing the 4th house and lord, the education is destined to be technical. Dear Zoran Guruji, you have written that 5th house is to be seen for inclination of the mind and intelligence. How to see this in the example horoscope? You have also written about the examination of the 4th house for education upto the unversity level, the failure or break of education , and the strongest influence on the 4th house by a planet will indicate the type of education. In the horoscope, exalted Mars from 9th house in graha dristi is influencing the 4th house in the strongest way, because a) it is exalted b) it is aspecting the 4th house both by graha dristi and rasi drsiti. Can I conclude the the native will get education dominated by mars? Then how to' fine tune' the type of education the native will receive? In the example horoscope, mercury has argala on the 4th house. Does it indicate the writing ability will be there in the native? 9th house deals with university education. Please see, that the 9th house is very strong by the presence of three planets, Venus- lagna and 6th lord, exalted Mars-7th and 12th lord, debilitated Jupiter-8th and 11th lord . But all the dusthana lords are influencing the 9th house. How to see the resultant effect in this case? How non-formal education is seen from 5th house? How should I see the 10th house , the guiding factors in profession, in the example horoscope? In vimsottari dasa scheme, the native will fotunately get the dasa of lagnadhipati venus strongly placed in the 9th house in the house of his friend, in the years of receiving education i.e. from the age of 3 years to 23 years of age. One very good yoga of education is present in the horoscope-- the Saraswati yoga. This indicates good promise of education. Moon , though having directional strength, is afflicted by rahu and mars. What is the remedy for this ? Please note that the moon is the 7th lord from the debilitated Jupiter and is situated in kendra from lagna, thereby , causing the cancellation of debility of Jupiter. So, it must be made strong and affliction on it should be guarded against. How? Mercury is retrograde , does it need any remedial measure? Please guide me more in my understanding of this important part of jyotish shastra. With regards Dilip Banerjee. .. Attachment: (application/octet-stream) example.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Dr Dilip, First to see the nature of lagna. Lagna is taurus. The attributes of taurus ( pertaining to education) are, artistic , poised, skilled , firm, determined , practical. ZORAN: YOU MAY ALSO ADD FINANCE Mercury, the planet of intelligence is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Saturn is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Being a tamasic planet , it will impart laziness to the native.Moon is with Rahu in the 4th house . The mind is gloomy , often it will be agitated as moon-rahu combination is aspected by mars by graha dristi. As mercury is retrograde, and moon is afflicted by rahu and mars, the mind is chaotic. Am I right? But , please see , both lagna and moon are aspected by jupiter(debilitated, but undergone cancellation of debilitation), mars, and Lagnadhipati venus by rasi dristi. What does that mean? ZORAN; MOON AND RAHU GIVES UNFOCUSED MIND. THE THOUGHTS AND INTERESTS DISSIPATE. COMBINATIONS OF BUDHA AND CHANDRA IN KENDRA WITH RAHU AND KETU IS NOT FAVOURABALE FOR MENTAL ABILITIES AND MAY GIVE EVEN GIVE RISE TO A SORT OF PAISACHA YOGA. CHANDRA IS IN LOWER DEGRE THAN RAHU, SO THE MENTAL ECLIPSE WOULD BE EVER PRESENT.In navamsa, the trines are occupied by jupiter, saturn and ketu. Jupiter is in lagnamsa makes the native a karma yogi," who will excell in any field due to his intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion". Two malefics are in trines, so the native will have knowledge of mantra.Jupiter in swamsa indicates" a genius having knowledge in various branches and a great author". So, the promise in navamsa is not bad . ZORAN; PROVIDED NAVAMSA CHART IS CORRECT. Now , coming to the 5th house, we can see that the the 5th lord mercury is in kendra(good), is retrograde( bad) . 5th house is aspected by saturn, a malefic (bad),but saturn is yogakaraka( good). Sun , a malefic has argala on 5th house. Sun also aspects the 5th house by rasi dristi. Malefic planets mainly influence the 5th house e.g. saturn and sun. Can we conclude that the native has inclination towards technical education? Mercury is strong ;jupiter , though debilitated, has undergone cancellation of debility. The planet of intelligence and wisdom are not weak or afflicted. So, the native will be capable in receiving the technical education. ZORAN; WHY WOULD RX ALWAYS BE BAD. IT CAN BE A BLESSING IN DUSGUISE. MERCURY IN 7TH HOUSE GIVES INTERESTS IN COMMUNICATIONS, RELATIONS, SPEECH, ADVOCASY AND LOYAL MATTERS. BEING IN RASHI OF MARS AND NAVAMSA OF JUPITER WHICH ARE PLACED IN 9TH HOUSE CAN PROMOTE INTERESTS IN LAW, FOREIGN MATTERS, TOURISM, FINANCE ETC. A well known principle in matters of education is , that the influence on the 4th house, 4th lord, indicates the type of education the native will get.The influences are caused by 1. planet situated in those houses 2. planet aspecting those houses. 3. Rasi dispositor of the Lords of those houses. 4. Lord of Nakshatra dispositor of the lord of those houses. If natural malefic planets predominate in influencing these factors, the education the native will get ,is destined to be technical. And natural benific planets in this situation give non-technical educations.Now 4th house of the model horoscope is being analysed. 4th house has moon and rahu, aspected by mars. 4th lord is sun in the 8th house, the worst dusthana in the nakshatra of ketu . So, the 4th house is afflicted . it indicates break in education. As malefic planets predominate in influencing the 4th house and lord, the education is destined to be technical. ZORAN: YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT INSTABILITY IN FORMAL EDUCATION, WITH POSSIBLE TRANSFERS OR TRAVELLING. I CANNOT BET THAT THE TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS A MUST. WHY NOT BEING A LAWYER. SURYA RULES 4TH HOUSE AND IS PLACED IN 8TH IN KETU NAKSHATRA. 8TH HOUSE SIGNIFIES BANKS, LITIGATIONS ABOUT PROPERTIES(INHERITANCE) .. WHEN LORD OF 4TH HOUSE IS PLACED IN 8TH IN DHANU, A TRANSFER AND LIVING ABROAD IS INDICATED. Dear Zoran Guruji, you have written that 5th house is to be seen for inclination of the mind and intelligence. How to see this in the example horoscope? ZORAN: BUDHA RULING 5TH HOUSE GIVES INTELLIGENCE, BUT IT IS VAKRA, SO THE TIME WOULD PASS UNTILL HE FOCUSES HIS MIND DUE TO CHANDRA AND NODES IN KENDRA TO BUDHA.SHANI ASPECTS, WHICH GIVES SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF KNOWLEDGE. SHANI IN GURU RASHI AND NAVAMSA IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE BUT LATER IN LIFE.THE CHILD HAS TO BE LEARNT TO FOCUS NOT FICKLE AMONG THE VARIOUS INTERESTS. MIND AND EMOTIONS SHOULD BE CHARISHED, SINCE THERE IS UTMOST SENSITIVITY You have also written about the examination of the 4th house for education upto the unversity level, the failure or break of education , and the strongest influence on the 4th house by a planet will indicate the type of education. In the horoscope, exalted Mars from 9th house in graha dristi is influencing the 4th house in the strongest way, because a) it is exalted b) it is aspecting the 4th house both by graha dristi and rasi drsiti.Can I conclude the the native will get education dominated by mars? ZORAN: YES, MANGAL SENDS BOTH RASHI AND GRAHA DRISTI ON CHANDRA, WHICH GIVES ACTIVE AND AMBITIONS MIND. THERE IS GURU MANGALA YOGA IN 9TH WHICH IS EXCELLENT , THOUGH SOMEWHAT SPOILED BY GURU BAD ADHIPATYA. HOWEVER, GURU IS IN PARIVARTHANA WITH SHANI, ONE MUST BE CAUTIOUS WHEN PARIVARTHANA EXISTS. IT MEANS GRAHAS WOULD EXCHANGE ROLES. CHANGES IN EDUCATION ARE INDICATED. APART FROM TECHNICAL EDUCATION SIGNIFIED BY MANGAL, I BELEIVE THAT GURU AND SHANI WOULD HAVE STRONGER SAY ON 9TH HOUSE AND EDUCATION, SO AGAIN I SEE LAW. THERE WOULD BE LOTS OF INTERESTS AND DESIRE TO CHANGE DUE TO RAHU AND CHANDRA IN 4TH HOUSE. VARIETY OF THEMES WOULD INTEREST THE PERSON Then how to' fine tune' the type of education the native will receive? In the example horoscope, mercury has argala on the 4th house. Does it indicate the writing ability will be there in the native? 9th house deals with university education. Please see, that the 9th house is very strong by the presence of three planets, Venus- lagna and 6th lord, exalted Mars-7th and 12th lord, debilitated Jupiter-8th and 11th lord . But all the dusthana lords are influencing the 9th house. How to see the resultant effect in this case? ZORAN: IF YOU WISH TO TUNE, YOU MUST CAREFULLY EXAMINE NAVAMSA, SIDDHAMSA CHARTS. FOR WRITTING ABILITIES NAVAMSA MUST CONFER AND TO INFLUENCE THE PROFESSION, BUDHA MUST BE VERY STRONG AND WELL PLACED IN DASHAMSHA. ARGALA OF BUDHA OVER CHANDRA SIGNIFIES THAT THERE WOULD BE TENSIONS ARISING FROM RELATIONS WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE MIND. 9TH HOUSE IS FAIRLY STRONG, SO THE PERSON WOULD ENJOY BENEFITS OF HIGHER EDUCATION. 8TH LORD IN 9TH HOUSE IS GOOD FOR 8TH HOUSE EFFECTS SUCH AS RESEARCH, BANKS, LITIGATIONS , INSURANCE MEDICAL ETC. IN THIS CASE, SUDDEN CHANGES AT HOME MAY AFFECT THE EDUCATION/FORTUNE. THERE IS VEEPRETA YOGA IN 9TH HOUSE, SO THE EDUCATION WOULD GO IN TERMS OF VEEPRETA(SUDDEN CHANGES) How non-formal education is seen from 5th house? How should I see the 10th house , the guiding factors in profession, in the example horoscope? In vimsottari dasa scheme, the native will fotunately get the dasa of lagnadhipati venus strongly placed in the 9th house in the house of his friend, in the years of receiving educationi.e. from the age of 3 years to 23 years of age.One very good yoga of education is present in the horoscope-- the Saraswati yoga. This indicates good promise of education. Moon , though having directional strength, is afflicted by rahu and mars. What is the remedy for this ? Please note that the moon is the 7th lord from the debilitated Jupiter and is situated in kendra from lagna, thereby , causing the cancellation of debility of Jupiter. So, it must be made strong and affliction on it should be guarded against. How? Mercury is retrograde , does it need any remedial measure? Please guide me more in my understanding of this important part of jyotish shastra. With regardsDilip Banerjee. ZORAN: LATER ON IN LIFE THE PERSON WOULD DEVELOP SPIRITUAL INTERESTS DUE TO BUDHA ATMAKARAK RULING 5TH HOUSE. SO HE WOULD HAVE TO LEARN THE LESSONS FROM RELATIONSHIPS AND CONTROL HIS SPEECH/TACTS. STRONG DESIRES FOR RELATIONSHIPS MAY TAKE HIM TO MANY SUFFERINGS. HE SHOULD WORSHIP NARAYANA WITH ASHTAKSHARI MANTRA OM NAMO NARAYANA, OR RECITE VISHNU SAHASHRANAMA. CHILD SHOULD BE LEARNT TO SPEAK TRUTH AND BE TACTFUL CONTORLLING HIS TONGUE. LUCKY THING IS THAT HE WOULD BE PASSING THROUGH SHUKRA MAHADASHA THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE GOOD TO HIM, BUT INVOLVED IN VEEPRETA YOGA, SOME UNPLEASENT EFFECTS WOULD ALSO BE THERE. ANTARDASHA OF GURU SHOULD BE WATCHED UPON. MERCURY ENDING IN PISCES NAVAMSA WOULD DEFINITELY TURN HIM SPIRITUAL. AS FAR AS PROFESSION IS CONSIDERED YOU MUST ANALYZE 10TH HOUSE AND ALL INFLUENCES, THEN NAVAMSA FOR SKILLS THEN DASHAMSHA AS THE MOST DEFINITE FACTOR. Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 HARE RAMA KRISHNA -------------------- Namaste Zoran Thanks for your detailed analysis. Some points are there which I could not understand. Please clarify those points. - Zoran Radosavljevic sjvc Saturday, February 23, 2002 5:16 AM Re: [sjvc] To Zoran-councelling for education Dr Dilip, First to see the nature of lagna. Lagna is taurus. The attributes of taurus ( pertaining to education) are, artistic , poised, skilled , firm, determined , practical. ZORAN: YOU MAY ALSO ADD FINANCE Mercury, the planet of intelligence is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Saturn is aspecting the lagna by graha dristi. Being a tamasic planet , it will impart laziness to the native.Moon is with Rahu in the 4th house . The mind is gloomy , often it will be agitated as moon-rahu combination is aspected by mars by graha dristi. As mercury is retrograde, and moon is afflicted by rahu and mars, the mind is chaotic. Am I right? But , please see , both lagna and moon are aspected by jupiter(debilitated, but undergone cancellation of debilitation), mars, and Lagnadhipati venus by rasi dristi. What does that mean? ZORAN; MOON AND RAHU GIVES UNFOCUSED MIND. THE THOUGHTS AND INTERESTS DISSIPATE. COMBINATIONS OF BUDHA AND CHANDRA IN KENDRA WITH RAHU AND KETU IS NOT FAVOURABALE FOR MENTAL ABILITIES AND MAY GIVE EVEN GIVE RISE TO A SORT OF PAISACHA YOGA. CHANDRA IS IN LOWER DEGRE THAN RAHU, SO THE MENTAL ECLIPSE WOULD BE EVER PRESENT. DILIP: ABOUT THE PISACHA YOGA THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN, YES THERE IS THE UNFORTUNATE PRESENCE OF IT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT TWO BENEFIC - THE FIRST RATE BENEFICS ASPECT IT, NAMELY LAGNADHIPATI VENUS AND JUPITER , BY RASI DRISTI. AND THEY ASPECT FROM THE 9TH HOUSE WHICH IS BELEIVED TO EXERT MOST PROTECTIVE AND SPIRITUAL INFLUENCE ON THE NATIVE. HOW WILL YOU BALANCE THE TWO- THE PRESENCE OF PISACHA YOGA AND THE ASPECT OF JUPITER AND VENUS? WHAT IS REMEDY OF PISACHA YOGA ANYWAY? in navamsa, the trines are occupied by jupiter, saturn and ketu. Jupiter is in lagnamsa makes the native a karma yogi," who will excell in any field due to his intelligence or one interested in philosophy and religion". Two malefics are in trines, so the native will have knowledge of mantra.Jupiter in swamsa indicates" a genius having knowledge in various branches and a great author". So, the promise in navamsa is not bad . ZORAN; PROVIDED NAVAMSA CHART IS CORRECT. Now , coming to the 5th house, we can see that the the 5th lord mercury is in kendra(good), is retrograde( bad) . 5th house is aspected by saturn, a malefic (bad),but saturn is yogakaraka( good). Sun , a malefic has argala on 5th house. Sun also aspects the 5th house by rasi dristi. Malefic planets mainly influence the 5th house e.g. saturn and sun. Can we conclude that the native has inclination towards technical education? Mercury is strong ;jupiter , though debilitated, has undergone cancellation of debility. The planet of intelligence and wisdom are not weak or afflicted. So, the native will be capable in receiving the technical education. ZORAN; WHY WOULD RX ALWAYS BE BAD. IT CAN BE A BLESSING IN DUSGUISE. MERCURY IN 7TH HOUSE GIVES INTERESTS IN COMMUNICATIONS, RELATIONS, SPEECH, ADVOCASY AND LOYAL MATTERS. BEING IN RASHI OF MARS AND NAVAMSA OF JUPITER WHICH ARE PLACED IN 9TH HOUSE CAN PROMOTE INTERESTS IN LAW, FOREIGN MATTERS, TOURISM, FINANCE ETC. A well known principle in matters of education is , that the influence on the 4th house, 4th lord, indicates the type of education the native will get.The influences are caused by 1. planet situated in those houses 2. planet aspecting those houses. 3. Rasi dispositor of the Lords of those houses. 4. Lord of Nakshatra dispositor of the lord of those houses. If natural malefic planets predominate in influencing these factors, the education the native will get ,is destined to be technical. And natural benific planets in this situation give non-technical educations.Now 4th house of the model horoscope is being analysed. 4th house has moon and rahu, aspected by mars. 4th lord is sun in the 8th house, the worst dusthana in the nakshatra of ketu . So, the 4th house is afflicted . it indicates break in education. As malefic planets predominate in influencing the 4th house and lord, the education is destined to be technical. ZORAN: YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT INSTABILITY IN FORMAL EDUCATION, WITH POSSIBLE TRANSFERS OR TRAVELLING. I CANNOT BET THAT THE TECHNICAL EDUCATION IS A MUST. WHY NOT BEING A LAWYER. SURYA RULES 4TH HOUSE AND IS PLACED IN 8TH IN KETU NAKSHATRA. 8TH HOUSE SIGNIFIES BANKS, LITIGATIONS ABOUT PROPERTIES(INHERITANCE) . WHEN LORD OF 4TH HOUSE IS PLACED IN 8TH IN DHANU, A TRANSFER AND LIVING ABROAD IS INDICATED. DILIP: THERE ARE OTHER POINTS WHICH INDICATE THE FOREIGN RESIDENCE OF THE NATIVE .. THEY ARE- 1. AFFLICTION OF 4TH HOUSE BY TWO MALEFICS AND ONE OF WHICH IS RAHU SIGNIFYING FOREIGN MATTERS, 2. 12TH LORD IN 9TH HOUSE IN STRENGTH ASPECTING BY GRAHA DRISTI AND RASI DRISTI , THE 4TH HOUSE. 3. FROM AL , 4TH HOUSE IS AFFLICTED BY A MALEFIC , SUN. 4. PRESENCE OF RAHU IN THE 12TH FROM AL ( WHICH ALSO POINTS TOWARDS HIS BEING DEEPLY SPIRITUAL). Dear Zoran Guruji, you have written that 5th house is to be seen for inclination of the mind and intelligence. How to see this in the example horoscope? ZORAN: BUDHA RULING 5TH HOUSE GIVES INTELLIGENCE, BUT IT IS VAKRA, SO THE TIME WOULD PASS UNTILL HE FOCUSES HIS MIND DUE TO CHANDRA AND NODES IN KENDRA TO BUDHA. DILIP: MAY I ASK A RELATED QUESTION HERE? WHEN A PLANET IS IN KENDRA TO THE OTHER , THEY ARE SAID TO HAVE IN PARASPARA SAMBANDHA ( MUTUAL RELATION ) TO EACH OTHER . HOW TO JUDGE THE RESULTANT EFFECT IN THIS CASE? IS IT LIKE CONJUCTION OF THE PLANETS ? PLEASE ELABORATE! SHANI ASPECTS, WHICH GIVES SLOW DEVELOPMENT OF KNOWLEDGE. SHANI IN GURU RASHI AND NAVAMSA IS GOOD FOR SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE BUT LATER IN LIFE. DILIP: WHY LATER IN LIFE, PLEASE? THE CHILD HAS TO BE LEARNT TO FOCUS NOT FICKLE AMONG THE VARIOUS INTERESTS. MIND AND EMOTIONS SHOULD BE CHARISHED, SINCE THERE IS UTMOST SENSITIVITY DILIP: SO THE POINT TO NOTE HERE IS THAT ; 5TH HOUSE IS EXAMINED FOR MENTAL INCLINATION AND INTELLIGENCE. THE WAY TO DO IT TO SEE THE NATURE OF THE 5TH LORD ( AS HERE MERCURY IS THE PLANET OF INTELLIGENCE) IT'S CONDITION i.e. WHETHER IT IS EXALTED , DEBILITATED , VAKRA ETC- THE MORE THE POWERFUL THE PLANET IS WITHOUT AFFLICTION, THE MORE CHANCE IS THERE BY THE PLANET TO EXPRESS IT'S NATURAL TRAITS. NEXT TO SEE WHICH PLANET AND HOUSE LORD INFLUENCE THE 5TH LORD AND 5TH HOUSE BY ASPECT AND CONJUNCTION . THE TRAITS OF THE HOUSES AND PLANETS WILL BE MANIFESTED AS INCLINATION OF MIND. AM I WRITE IN UNDERSTANDING? You have also written about the examination of the 4th house for education upto the unversity level, the failure or break of education , and the strongest influence on the 4th house by a planet will indicate the type of education. In the horoscope, exalted Mars from 9th house in graha dristi is influencing the 4th house in the strongest way, because a) it is exalted b) it is aspecting the 4th house both by graha dristi and rasi drsiti.Can I conclude the the native will get education dominated by mars? ZORAN: YES, MANGAL SENDS BOTH RASHI AND GRAHA DRISTI ON CHANDRA, WHICH GIVES ACTIVE AND AMBITIONS MIND. THERE IS GURU MANGALA YOGA IN 9TH WHICH IS EXCELLENT , THOUGH SOMEWHAT SPOILED BY GURU BAD ADHIPATYA. HOWEVER, GURU IS IN PARIVARTHANA WITH SHANI, ONE MUST BE CAUTIOUS WHEN PARIVARTHANA EXISTS. IT MEANS GRAHAS WOULD EXCHANGE ROLES. CHANGES IN EDUCATION ARE INDICATED. APART FROM TECHNICAL EDUCATION SIGNIFIED BY MANGAL, I BELEIVE THAT GURU AND SHANI WOULD HAVE STRONGER SAY ON 9TH HOUSE AND EDUCATION, SO AGAIN I SEE LAW. THERE WOULD BE LOTS OF INTERESTS AND DESIRE TO CHANGE DUE TO RAHU AND CHANDRA IN 4TH HOUSE. VARIETY OF THEMES WOULD INTEREST THE PERSON DILIP: ZORAN GURUJI, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE TROUBLE IN WRITING ME WHICH PLANETS GIVE WHAT TYPE OF EDUCATION SINGLY AND IN DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS? THIS IS MY EARNEST AND HUMBLE REQUEST. Then how to' fine tune' the type of education the native will receive? In the example horoscope, mercury has argala on the 4th house. Does it indicate the writing ability will be there in the native? 9th house deals with university education. Please see, that the 9th house is very strong by the presence of three planets, Venus- lagna and 6th lord, exalted Mars-7th and 12th lord, debilitated Jupiter-8th and 11th lord . But all the dusthana lords are influencing the 9th house. How to see the resultant effect in this case? ZORAN: IF YOU WISH TO TUNE, YOU MUST CAREFULLY EXAMINE NAVAMSA, SIDDHAMSA CHARTS. FOR WRITTING ABILITIES NAVAMSA MUST CONFER AND TO INFLUENCE THE PROFESSION, BUDHA MUST BE VERY STRONG AND WELL PLACED IN DASHAMSHA. ARGALA OF BUDHA OVER CHANDRA SIGNIFIES THAT THERE WOULD BE TENSIONS ARISING FROM RELATIONS WHICH WOULD AFFECT THE MIND. 9TH HOUSE IS FAIRLY STRONG, SO THE PERSON WOULD ENJOY BENEFITS OF HIGHER EDUCATION. 8TH LORD IN 9TH HOUSE IS GOOD FOR 8TH HOUSE EFFECTS SUCH AS RESEARCH, BANKS, LITIGATIONS , INSURANCE MEDICAL ETC. IN THIS CASE, SUDDEN CHANGES AT HOME MAY AFFECT THE EDUCATION/FORTUNE. THERE IS VEEPRETA YOGA IN 9TH HOUSE, SO THE EDUCATION WOULD GO IN TERMS OF VEEPRETA(SUDDEN CHANGES) DILIP: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN VEEPAREETA YOGA AND VEEPAREETA RAJA YOGA. How non-formal education is seen from 5th house? How should I see the 10th house , the guiding factors in profession, in the example horoscope? In vimsottari dasa scheme, the native will fotunately get the dasa of lagnadhipati venus strongly placed in the 9th house in the house of his friend, in the years of receiving educationi.e. from the age of 3 years to 23 years of age.One very good yoga of education is present in the horoscope-- the Saraswati yoga. This indicates good promise of education. Moon , though having directional strength, is afflicted by rahu and mars. What is the remedy for this ? Please note that the moon is the 7th lord from the debilitated Jupiter and is situated in kendra from lagna, thereby , causing the cancellation of debility of Jupiter. So, it must be made strong and affliction on it should be guarded against. How? Mercury is retrograde , does it need any remedial measure? Please guide me more in my understanding of this important part of jyotish shastra. With regardsDilip Banerjee. ZORAN: LATER ON IN LIFE THE PERSON WOULD DEVELOP SPIRITUAL INTERESTS DUE TO BUDHA ATMAKARAK RULING 5TH HOUSE. SO HE WOULD HAVE TO LEARN THE LESSONS FROM RELATIONSHIPS AND CONTROL HIS SPEECH/TACTS. STRONG DESIRES FOR RELATIONSHIPS MAY TAKE HIM TO MANY SUFFERINGS. HE SHOULD WORSHIP NARAYANA WITH ASHTAKSHARI MANTRA OM NAMO NARAYANA, DILIP: YES , THIS NARAYANA MANTRA KEEPS THE SEX IMPULSE UNDER CONTROL, AS ONLY LORD NARAYANA CAN SAVE IN THIS MATTER , AS HE SAVED NARADA." OM NAMO NARAYANAYA". OR RECITE VISHNU SAHASHRANAMA. CHILD SHOULD BE LEARNT TO SPEAK TRUTH AND BE TACTFUL CONTORLLING HIS TONGUE. LUCKY THING IS THAT HE WOULD BE PASSING THROUGH SHUKRA MAHADASHA THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE GOOD TO HIM, BUT INVOLVED IN VEEPRETA YOGA, SOME UNPLEASENT EFFECTS WOULD ALSO BE THERE. ANTARDASHA OF GURU SHOULD BE WATCHED UPON. DILIP: AS JUPITER IS 8TH LORD AND ENEMY TO VENUS AND DEBILITATED? MERCURY ENDING IN PISCES NAVAMSA WOULD DEFINITELY TURN HIM SPIRITUAL. AS FAR AS PROFESSION IS CONSIDERED YOU MUST ANALYZE 10TH HOUSE AND ALL INFLUENCES, THEN NAVAMSA FOR SKILLS THEN DASHAMSHA AS THE MOST DEFINITE FACTOR. Zoran Radosavljevic Jyotish Teacher at Shri Jagannath Vedic Centre mails: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net ahimsa (AT) neobee (DOT) net web address: http://www.sjvc.co.yu I HAVE BEEN MEDITATING OVER YOUR LETTER. I SHALL WRITE TO YOU AGAIN ON THE THEMES OF THIS DISCUSSION. THANK YOU AGAIN. WITH REGARDS GRATEFULLY YOURS DILIP BANERJEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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