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Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members,

 

With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr. Ramchandani

(Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it was the auspicious day of

Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm.

It was an excellent and very friutfull evening we passed together. For sure,

this is the best way to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may

not be sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject.

 

The following persons were present,

 

1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist and a member of

" vedic astrology" discussion group. He is studying astrology since a long

time and have a very good knowledge of KP system.

2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear scientist. He has done

research on KP system and also written a book on the application of KP system on

various charts. He distributed complementary copies of his book to each of us.

We are all greatfull to him for this.

3. Aswin (Pune)

4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)

5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)

4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)

 

Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were preoccupied

with work and they intimated the same.

 

We started with meditation, followed by discussions on,

 

* AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart.

* Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.

* General discussion on KP method.

* General discussion on KSY and KAY

* General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart

* General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics

 

It was decided that the next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, sunday at the

same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated to the list. We shall

discuss our charts in details on proffession / career prospects, relations

between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any other related topics.

 

Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some questions from

the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD CAPITAL words. We seek

guidance from the gurus and experienced list members on those.

 

AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:

 

1. Praveen Agarwal

AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista is Shiva.

Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata is

Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman

 

2. Aswin

AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from karakamsa is

Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in 1st drekana. so his Ista

is Lord Rama.

In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is more advanced -

so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He is actually a devotee of

Shirdhi Saibaba.

 

DOUBT-1:

CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO ISTA. BUT WHO

WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA

AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY

SIGNIFICANCE?

 

3. Dr. Ramachandani

AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from karakamsa. Sat is

more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata.

AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus. So his Ista and

Palanadevata are same.

 

4. Viswanadhan

AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is empty. So Mars

lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanumana is his

Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup & Sat.

 

DOUBT-2:

WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET HAVING

MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY AND THE

LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS IN THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME

RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD

ONLY BE CONSIDERED?

 

Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e Shiva should be his Palnadevata.

 

DOUBT-3

SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN CANCER -

HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT? WILL THE PALANADEVATA

WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?

 

5. J.K. Dasgupta

AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is Venus. It is

also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.

Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is empty. So lord

Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and Palanadevata is same.

 

CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:

 

Birth data is,

DOB: 18.03.1975

TOB: 12.20 pm

Patna, Bihar

 

Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost his job on

31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not available. So detail

discussion could not be done. But it was seen in general that,

1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in 6th. So in

general the pereiod is difficult for him

2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated.

 

So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.

Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d 50m, nearing

deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in hostel away from his home.

In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting from 27.05.2002

should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon nakhsatra and Mars and Moon

are in trine to each other. A job away from his present place (even outside

India) might be possible. More detail discussions on this will be taken up

during next meeting.

 

GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

 

We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002

 

With humble regards,

 

jk dasgupta

 

ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed something

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Dear Dasgupta,

Namastae!

I thought i would tell my views regarding Aswins's chart

(about whose career you had mentioned at the end of your mail).

 

Based on his career details, software firm, MBA , lost

job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be between

12:06pm to 12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you have specified)

 

This would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun& Sat

in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th

(software firm) .

 

Rahu is in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna

Lord Mars is under bandana yoga between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and

Sun/Sat in 11th from it. Rahu/Sat caused him trouble.

 

Rahu in 8th in Navamsa, Saturn (Malefic for Pisces

Navamsa) is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He lost his job

during Rahu/Sat/Ven.

 

As you have said yes Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a job.

However Rahu/Sat there will pose difficulty.

 

Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He will start

righting good code again.

 

Regards,

Shriram

 

sjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:

> MessageRespected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list

members,

>

> With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr.

Ramchandani (Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it was

the auspicious day of Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about

4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm. It was an excellent and very

friutfull evening we passed together. For sure, this is the best way

to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may not be

sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject.

>

> The following persons were present,

>

> 1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist and

a member of " vedic astrology" discussion group. He is studying

astrology since a long time and have a very good knowledge of KP

system.

> 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear

scientist. He has done research on KP system and also written a book

on the application of KP system on various charts. He distributed

complementary copies of his book to each of us. We are all greatfull

to him for this.

> 3. Aswin (Pune)

> 4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)

> 5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)

> 4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)

>

> Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were

preoccupied with work and they intimated the same.

>

> We started with meditation, followed by discussions on,

>

> * AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart.

> * Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.

> * General discussion on KP method.

> * General discussion on KSY and KAY

> * General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart

> * General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics

>

> It was decided that the next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002,

sunday at the same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated to

the list. We shall discuss our charts in details on proffession /

career prospects, relations between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any other

related topics.

>

> Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some

questions from the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD

CAPITAL words. We seek guidance from the gurus and experienced list

members on those.

>

> AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:

>

> 1. Praveen Agarwal

> AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista

is Shiva.

> Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata

is Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman

>

> 2. Aswin

> AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from

karakamsa is Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in

1st drekana. so his Ista is Lord Rama.

> In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is

more advanced - so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He

is actually a devotee of Shirdhi Saibaba.

>

> DOUBT-1:

> CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO

ISTA. BUT WHO WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE

MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS

TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE?

>

> 3. Dr. Ramachandani

> AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from

karakamsa. Sat is more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata.

> AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus. So

his Ista and Palanadevata are same.

>

> 4. Viswanadhan

> AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is

empty. So Mars lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or

Lord Hanumana is his Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup

& Sat.

>

> DOUBT-2:

> WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET

HAVING MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA

IS EMPTY AND THE LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS IN

THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH

FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD ONLY BE CONSIDERED?

>

> Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e

Shiva should be his Palnadevata.

>

> DOUBT-3

> SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN

CANCER - HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT?

WILL THE PALANADEVATA WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?

>

> 5. J.K. Dasgupta

> AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is

Venus. It is also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.

> Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is

empty. So lord Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and

Palanadevata is same.

>

> CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:

>

> Birth data is,

> DOB: 18.03.1975

> TOB: 12.20 pm

> Patna, Bihar

>

> Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost

his job on 31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not

available. So detail discussion could not be done. But it was seen in

general that,

> 1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in

6th. So in general the pereiod is difficult for him

> 2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated.

>

> So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.

> Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d

50m, nearing deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in

hostel away from his home.

> In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting

from 27.05.2002 should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon

nakhsatra and Mars and Moon are in trine to each other. A job away

from his present place (even outside India) might be possible. More

detail discussions on this will be taken up during next meeting.

>

> GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

>

> We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002

>

> With humble regards,

>

> jk dasgupta

>

> ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed

something

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om guruave namah

 

Dear Dasgupta,

 

All the very best for the mumbai group SJVC studies. Here is my attempt in

learning more through the doubts you have raised. As always guru's and learned

members here would correct me.

 

My comments/attempt are in this colour.

-

j.k. dasgupta

sjvc

Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani

Monday, April 22, 2002 5:00 PM

[sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members,

 

With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr. Ramchandani

(Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it was the auspicious day of

Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm.

It was an excellent and very friutfull evening we passed together. For sure,

this is the best way to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may

not be sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject.

 

The following persons were present,

 

1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist and a member of

" vedic astrology" discussion group. He is studying astrology since a long

time and have a very good knowledge of KP system.

2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear scientist. He has done

research on KP system and also written a book on the application of KP system on

various charts. He distributed complementary copies of his book to each of us.

We are all greatfull to him for this.

3. Aswin (Pune)

4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)

5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)

4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)

 

Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were preoccupied

with work and they intimated the same.

 

We started with meditation, followed by discussions on,

 

* AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart.

* Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.

* General discussion on KP method.

* General discussion on KSY and KAY

* General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart

* General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics

 

It was decided that the next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, sunday at the

same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated to the list. We shall

discuss our charts in details on proffession / career prospects, relations

between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any other related topics.

 

Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some questions from

the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD CAPITAL words. We seek

guidance from the gurus and experienced list members on those.

 

AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:

 

1. Praveen Agarwal

AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista is Shiva.

Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata is

Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman

 

2. Aswin

AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from karakamsa is

Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in 1st drekana. so his Ista

is Lord Rama.

In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is more advanced -

so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He is actually a devotee of

Shirdhi Saibaba.

 

DOUBT-1:

CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO ISTA. BUT WHO

WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA

AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY

SIGNIFICANCE?

 

I would think so too. Also those planets that give Rasi dristi would lead the

native towards the ista/palana devata.

 

 

3. Dr. Ramachandani

AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from karakamsa. Sat is

more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata.

AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus. So his Ista and

Palanadevata are same.

 

4. Viswanadhan

AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is empty. So Mars

lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanumana is his

Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup & Sat.

 

DOUBT-2:

WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET HAVING

MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY AND THE

LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS IN THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME

RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD

ONLY BE CONSIDERED?

 

When the 12th from karakamsa is empty, only the lord (12th lord from karakamsa)

is taken to denote the diety.

 

Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e Shiva should be his Palnadevata.

 

DOUBT-3

SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN CANCER -

HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT? WILL THE PALANADEVATA

WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?

 

I would say it remains the same as enemical houses are not considered. Though

rasi drishi indicates a via media for the native to get to the diety. If i

could call it the means to achive the ista.

 

5. J.K. Dasgupta

AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is Venus. It is

also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.

Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is empty. So lord

Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and Palanadevata is same.

 

CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:

 

Birth data is,

DOB: 18.03.1975

TOB: 12.20 pm

Patna, Bihar

 

Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost his job on

31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not available. So detail

discussion could not be done. But it was seen in general that,

1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in 6th. So in

general the pereiod is difficult for him

2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated.

 

So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.

Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d 50m, nearing

deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in hostel away from his home.

In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting from 27.05.2002

should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon nakhsatra and Mars and Moon

are in trine to each other. A job away from his present place (even outside

India) might be possible. More detail discussions on this will be taken up

during next meeting.

 

Atmakaraka is rahu, and libra is the karakamsa. Libra is the 8th house from D-9

lagna. This indicates that the native will be often subjected to cheating. It

could also point to disease. It points to a debt the native has to pay.

Satyanarayana vrata on full moon day is the way out and the mantra being OM TAT

SAT. Also in Rasi, Rahu, the AK is placed in the 6th house. (Rahu get;s

debilitated in Saggitarius.) Lord of the 12th from Karakamsa is mercury and

merc is the MK. Mother will lead the native towards his ista.

 

Currently the native is running Li-Ta. Since the ND starts from the 1st house,

we take Li as the Dasa Rasi. Ta is the 8th from Li having Moon the lord of 10th

and GL!. The Paka rasi is Aries and Bhoga rasi is Cn. It;s lord relagated to

8th from the Dasa Rasi, and 8th from AL too. Thus Li-Ta needs to end. (2002-09)

 

Li-Ar starts from 2002-09 has Mars exalted in the 4th from AL, aspecting (graha

drishti) to 10th from dasa rasi and GL. Paka rasi (Ar) is in the 11th from

lagna and Bhoga rasi (Cn) is in kendra to AL. This period would surely go well

when compared to the current period.

 

As always i would be indebted to all if they could kindly correct me.

 

Thanks for everything.

 

Regards

 

Hari

 

GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

 

We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002

 

With humble regards,

 

jk dasgupta

 

ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed something

 

 

 

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dear katti,

 

namaste. i hope other mumbai members are also seeing these mails. regarding

applying ND for aswin's chart i think that for Li main dasa 7th from it should

be taken as lagna. i am pasting below an extract from a mail dt. 26.01.02 from

visti in answer to some doubts from fayyaz. i am not conversant with

interpretations of ND. but this type of discussions is the only way to increase

our knowledge.

=================

quote:

question from Fayyaz: When ND begins from 7th house results are seen from 7th

from Dasa rasi. eg:During period of Pisces Rasi we see results taking Virgo as

temp Lagna & count all matters such as Lordship of houses, yogas, transits over

houses,Ashtakavarga (to see strength of Dasa Rasi& planets), Paka/Bhoga rasis,

Deha rasi,Badhaka house.Dusthana houses etc, for the period, from Virgo.

 

Visti: Keep in mind, that its only a temp. Lagna, so lordships Arudhas, and

yogas, do not change, only the persons progression through life.

unqoute:

=================

i am not very sure if as a general case rashi dasa effects are to be seen taking

7th from it as temporary lagna, but in this case 7th from Li i.e Ari is

stronger. so i think that seeing dasa effect considering Ari as temporary lagna

is more logical. (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY PLEASE CORRECT ME AND KINDLY

GIVE GUIDANCE)

 

but AD effect should be seen from the antardasa rasi only - as my knowledge goes.

 

now if you take Li as lagna, then Ve is the lord who is in Ari, weak. in Li-Ge

dasa AD lord is Me. He is in 3:11 position with Ve. So it should not creat much

problem. But if you take Ari as temp lagna them MD lord Mars and Ad lord Mer is

in 2:12 position and definitely not a good period. 6th (service) from AL is Pi

(having swavarga Ju) - 12th from Ari, again problem.

 

now in Li-Ta dasa temp. lagna lord Mars and AD lord Ve in 4:10 position. seems

to be good. in fact recently he almost got an offer from a foreign company -

which fizzled out due to passport problem, as i understood from aswin (ASWIN

MAY CORRECT ME). may be weak Ve placement and its transit in Ari that time

caused this. but i think in LI-Ta position should improve. Ta has exaulted Moon

with Ke, and Moon is in star of Su (in 12th from temp lagna) and Ke is in star

of Moon - he may suddenly get an offer from a place away from his present place

of stay (pune). and he has to take decission without getting much chance to

think. note here that temp lagna lord Mars is also in star of Moon and

exaulted. anyway his Li-Ar dasa should be good. but whatever happens, he shall

face problem everywhere- as he is running Ra (AK) mahadasa.

 

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YOU ARE CONVERSANT WITH RASHI DASA INTERPRETATIONS. ALSO

PLEASE SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO ATTEND OUR NEXT MEETING ON 12.5.02 WHEN WE

SHALL DISCUSS THIS CHART AND OTHER CHARTS IN DETAIL (ON CAREER AND PROFFESSIONS

ONLY). WE ALL SHALL BE VERY GLAD. STILL THERE IS LOT OF TIME AND BOOKING ETC.

MAY NOT BE VERY DIFFICULT.

 

MORE THE NUMBER, MORE WILL BE THE FLOW AND EXCHANGE OF KNOWLEDGE. IN FACT WE

SHALL REQUEST ALL SJVC MEMBERS-WHO EVER IS IN MUMBAI THAT TIME TO KINDLY ATTEND

THE SAME.

 

 

jk dasgupta

-

Katti Narahari

sjvc

Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:14 AM

Re: [sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

om guruave namah

 

Dear Dasgupta,

 

All the very best for the mumbai group SJVC studies. Here is my attempt in

learning more through the doubts you have raised. As always guru's and learned

members here would correct me.

 

My comments/attempt are in this colour.

-

j.k. dasgupta

sjvc

Cc: Dr.M.G.Ramchndani

Monday, April 22, 2002 5:00 PM

[sjvc] 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Respected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list members,

 

With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr. Ramchandani

(Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it was the auspicious day of

Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm.

It was an excellent and very friutfull evening we passed together. For sure,

this is the best way to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may

not be sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject.

 

The following persons were present,

 

1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist and a member of

" vedic astrology" discussion group. He is studying astrology since a long

time and have a very good knowledge of KP system.

2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear scientist. He has done

research on KP system and also written a book on the application of KP system on

various charts. He distributed complementary copies of his book to each of us.

We are all greatfull to him for this.

3. Aswin (Pune)

4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)

5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)

4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)

 

Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were preoccupied

with work and they intimated the same.

 

We started with meditation, followed by discussions on,

 

* AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart.

* Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.

* General discussion on KP method.

* General discussion on KSY and KAY

* General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart

* General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics

 

It was decided that the next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, sunday at the

same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated to the list. We shall

discuss our charts in details on proffession / career prospects, relations

between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any other related topics.

 

Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some questions from

the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD CAPITAL words. We seek

guidance from the gurus and experienced list members on those.

 

AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:

 

1. Praveen Agarwal

AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista is Shiva.

Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata is

Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman

 

2. Aswin

AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from karakamsa is

Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in 1st drekana. so his Ista

is Lord Rama.

In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is more advanced -

so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He is actually a devotee of

Shirdhi Saibaba.

 

DOUBT-1:

CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO ISTA. BUT WHO

WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA

AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY

SIGNIFICANCE?

 

I would think so too. Also those planets that give Rasi dristi would lead the

native towards the ista/palana devata.

 

 

3. Dr. Ramachandani

AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from karakamsa. Sat is

more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata.

AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus. So his Ista and

Palanadevata are same.

 

4. Viswanadhan

AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is empty. So Mars

lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanumana is his

Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup & Sat.

 

DOUBT-2:

WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET HAVING

MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY AND THE

LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS IN THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME

RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD

ONLY BE CONSIDERED?

 

When the 12th from karakamsa is empty, only the lord (12th lord from karakamsa)

is taken to denote the diety.

 

Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e Shiva should be his Palnadevata.

 

DOUBT-3

SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN CANCER -

HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT? WILL THE PALANADEVATA

WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?

 

I would say it remains the same as enemical houses are not considered. Though

rasi drishi indicates a via media for the native to get to the diety. If i

could call it the means to achive the ista.

 

5. J.K. Dasgupta

AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is Venus. It is

also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.

Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is empty. So lord

Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and Palanadevata is same.

 

CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:

 

Birth data is,

DOB: 18.03.1975

TOB: 12.20 pm

Patna, Bihar

 

Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost his job on

31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not available. So detail

discussion could not be done. But it was seen in general that,

1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in 6th. So in

general the pereiod is difficult for him

2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated.

 

So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.

Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d 50m, nearing

deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in hostel away from his home.

In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting from 27.05.2002

should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon nakhsatra and Mars and Moon

are in trine to each other. A job away from his present place (even outside

India) might be possible. More detail discussions on this will be taken up

during next meeting.

 

Atmakaraka is rahu, and libra is the karakamsa. Libra is the 8th house from D-9

lagna. This indicates that the native will be often subjected to cheating. It

could also point to disease. It points to a debt the native has to pay.

Satyanarayana vrata on full moon day is the way out and the mantra being OM TAT

SAT. Also in Rasi, Rahu, the AK is placed in the 6th house. (Rahu get;s

debilitated in Saggitarius.) Lord of the 12th from Karakamsa is mercury and

merc is the MK. Mother will lead the native towards his ista.

 

Currently the native is running Li-Ta. Since the ND starts from the 1st house,

we take Li as the Dasa Rasi. Ta is the 8th from Li having Moon the lord of 10th

and GL!. The Paka rasi is Aries and Bhoga rasi is Cn. It;s lord relagated to

8th from the Dasa Rasi, and 8th from AL too. Thus Li-Ta needs to end. (2002-09)

 

Li-Ar starts from 2002-09 has Mars exalted in the 4th from AL, aspecting (graha

drishti) to 10th from dasa rasi and GL. Paka rasi (Ar) is in the 11th from

lagna and Bhoga rasi (Cn) is in kendra to AL. This period would surely go well

when compared to the current period.

 

As always i would be indebted to all if they could kindly correct me.

 

Thanks for everything.

 

Regards

 

Hari

 

GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.

 

We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002

 

With humble regards,

 

jk dasgupta

 

ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed something

 

 

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dear shriram,

 

namaste. i hope aswin is seeing these mails. you have validly pointed out that

charts should be rectified before interpretations. i think your reasonings of

BT rectification in his case has a point. but we have not tried it yet.

 

but i think this should not be the only basis to correct the birth time. as my

knowledge goes, other areas to look are (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY KINDLY

GUIDE)

 

1. no of siblings

2. status of parents and relation with them

3. relation with spouse - if married

4. no of children

5. mathching some major events in the native's life.

6. lastly fine tuning the time by methods like kunda rectifications etc.

 

in fact i have got some astonishing results in BT rectification only by applying

step no 1, 4 (if married), 5 and 6.

 

 

jk dasgupta

 

ps: aswin.

 

why don't you give the above deatils to the list-if you have no objection. any

body interested - may try to rectify your BT and we shall be better equipped

during our next meeting.

 

-

shris1

sjvc

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:38 AM

[sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Dear Dasgupta, Namastae! I thought i would tell my views

regarding Aswins's chart (about whose career you had mentioned at the end of

your mail). Based on his career details, software firm, MBA , lost

job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be between 12:06pm to

12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you have specified) This

would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun& Sat in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing

towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th (software firm) . Rahu is

in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna Lord Mars is under bandana yoga

between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and Sun/Sat in 11th from it. Rahu/Sat caused him

trouble. Rahu in 8th in Navamsa, Saturn (Malefic for Pisces Navamsa)

is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He lost his job during Rahu/Sat/Ven.

As you have said yes Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a job. However Rahu/Sat

there will pose difficulty. Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He

will start righting good code again.Regards,Shriramsjvc, "j.k.

dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> MessageRespected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus

and all list members,> > With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the

house of Dr. Ramchandani (Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it

was the auspicious day of Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at about 4.30 pm

and continued upto 8.30 pm. It was an excellent and very friutfull evening we

passed together. For sure, this is the best way to learn and clear each other's

doubts and one life may not be sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject. >

> The following persons were present,> > 1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He

is a neuclear scientist and a member of " vedic astrology" discussion

group. He is studying astrology since a long time and have a very good

knowledge of KP system.> 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a

neuclear scientist. He has done research on KP system and also written a book

on the application of KP system on various charts. He distributed complementary

copies of his book to each of us. We are all greatfull to him for this.> 3.

Aswin (Pune)> 4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)> 5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)> 4. J.K.

Dasgupta (Mumbai)> > Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as

they were preoccupied with work and they intimated the same.> > We started with

meditation, followed by discussions on,> > * AK, how to find Istadavata and

Palanadevata in the chart.> * Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career

prospects.> * General discussion on KP method.> * General discussion on KSY and

KAY> * General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart> * General

discussion on functinal benefic and malefics> > It was decided that the next

meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, sunday at the same place. Any subsequent

change will be intimated to the list. We shall discuss our charts in details on

proffession / career prospects, relations between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any

other related topics.> > Details of the discussions are submitted below. There

were some questions from the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD

CAPITAL words. We seek guidance from the gurus and experienced list members on

those.> > AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:> > 1. Praveen Agarwal> AK venus is

in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista is Shiva.> Mars is in

the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata is Kartikeya/Scanda or

Lord Hanuman> > 2. Aswin> AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa.

12th from karakamsa is Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in 1st

drekana. so his Ista is Lord Rama.> In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun

and jup there.Jup is more advanced - so he indicates palanadevata. Jup

indicates Guru. He is actually a devotee of Shirdhi Saibaba.> > DOUBT-1: >

CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO ISTA. BUT WHO

WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA

AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY

SIGNIFICANCE?> > 3. Dr. Ramachandani> AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat

(14d) is in 12 th from karakamsa. Sat is more advanced so Narayana is

Istadevata. > AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also Taurus.

So his Ista and Palanadevata are same.> > 4. Viswanadhan> AK is Sat. In navamsa

12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is empty. So Mars lord of scorpio indicates

Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanumana is his Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa

lagna Sag with Jup & Sat.> > DOUBT-2:> WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN

12TH FROM KARAKAMSA, PLANET HAVING MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN

12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY AND THE LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER

PLANETS (AS IN THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF

12TH FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD ONLY BE CONSIDERED?> > Amk is Jup and

in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e Shiva should be his

Palnadevata. > > DOUBT-3> SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN

WATERY SIGN CANCER - HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT?

WILL THE PALANADEVATA WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?> > 5.

J.K. Dasgupta> AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is

Venus. It is also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.> Amk is

Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is empty. So lord Venus

indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and Palanadevata is same.> > CAREER

PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:> > Birth data is,> DOB: 18.03.1975> TOB: 12.20 pm> Patna,

Bihar> > Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He lost his

job on 31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were not available. So

detail discussion could not be done. But it was seen in general that,> 1. He is

running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated in 6th. So in general the

pereiod is difficult for him> 2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in

12th house debilated.> > So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.> Another thing

was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon (2d 50m, nearing deep

exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in hostel away from his home. > In

general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting from 27.05.2002

should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon nakhsatra and Mars and Moon

are in trine to each other. A job away from his present place (even outside

India) might be possible. More detail discussions on this will be taken up

during next meeting.> > GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE

COMMENT ON THIS.> > We all are looking forward to our next meeting on

12.05.2002> > With humble regards,> > jk dasgupta> > ps: Aswin, Viswanadhan and

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Dear Dasgupta,

What you are saying is true, to rectify a chart we

need to see all points you have mentioned.

 

But if you assume that the time is close to the correct

time (+- 30 min , as an example), the given details are enough to

rectify the time (in most cases).

 

I hope you have seen some of Sanjaijis analysis on

birth rectification using dasamsa . Just by knowing your current

career trends & nature of job, i have seen him rectifiy charts (based

on dasamsa).

 

Have a look at Sanjaijis article on Dasamsa that

appeared on AM.

 

Assuming that 12:20pm is close to his birth time, based

on the details you have provided regarding his career , iam very

positive that his correct birth is between 12:06-12:11pm.

 

Regards,

Shriram

 

sjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:

> dear shriram,

>

> namaste. i hope aswin is seeing these mails. you have validly

pointed out that charts should be rectified before interpretations. i

think your reasonings of BT rectification in his case has a point.

but we have not tried it yet.

>

> but i think this should not be the only basis to correct the birth

time. as my knowledge goes, other areas to look are (GURUS AND

LEARNED MEMBERS MAY KINDLY GUIDE)

>

> 1. no of siblings

> 2. status of parents and relation with them

> 3. relation with spouse - if married

> 4. no of children

> 5. mathching some major events in the native's life.

> 6. lastly fine tuning the time by methods like kunda rectifications

etc.

>

> in fact i have got some astonishing results in BT rectification

only by applying step no 1, 4 (if married), 5 and 6.

>

>

> jk dasgupta

>

> ps: aswin.

>

> why don't you give the above deatils to the list-if you have no

objection. any body interested - may try to rectify your BT and we

shall be better equipped during our next meeting.

>

> -

> shris1

> sjvc

> Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:38 AM

> [sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

>

>

> Dear Dasgupta,

> Namastae!

> I thought i would tell my views regarding Aswins's

chart

> (about whose career you had mentioned at the end of your mail).

>

> Based on his career details, software firm, MBA ,

lost

> job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be

between

> 12:06pm to 12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you have

specified)

>

> This would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun&

Sat

> in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th

> (software firm) .

>

> Rahu is in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10

Lagna

> Lord Mars is under bandana yoga between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it

and

> Sun/Sat in 11th from it. Rahu/Sat caused him trouble.

>

> Rahu in 8th in Navamsa, Saturn (Malefic for Pisces

> Navamsa) is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He lost his job

> during Rahu/Sat/Ven.

>

> As you have said yes Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a

job.

> However Rahu/Sat there will pose difficulty.

>

> Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He will start

> righting good code again.

>

> Regards,

> Shriram

>

> sjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:

> > MessageRespected Sanjayji, Solaiji, other Gurus and all list

> members,

> >

> > With your blessings we started our 2nd meeting at the house of

Dr.

> Ramchandani (Anushaktinagar, Chembur). As Solaiji pointed out, it

was

> the auspicious day of Ram Navami. The diiscussion started at

about

> 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm. It was an excellent and very

> friutfull evening we passed together. For sure, this is the best

way

> to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may not be

> sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject.

> >

> > The following persons were present,

> >

> > 1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a neuclear scientist

and

> a member of " vedic astrology" discussion group. He is

studying

> astrology since a long time and have a very good knowledge of KP

> system.

> > 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also a neuclear

> scientist. He has done research on KP system and also written a

book

> on the application of KP system on various charts. He distributed

> complementary copies of his book to each of us. We are all

greatfull

> to him for this.

> > 3. Aswin (Pune)

> > 4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)

> > 5. Praveen Agarwal (Mumbai)

> > 4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)

> >

> > Nandan Chakravarty and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they

were

> preoccupied with work and they intimated the same.

> >

> > We started with meditation, followed by discussions on,

> >

> > * AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the chart.

> > * Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.

> > * General discussion on KP method.

> > * General discussion on KSY and KAY

> > * General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart

> > * General discussion on functinal benefic and malefics

> >

> > It was decided that the next meeting will be held on

12.05.2002,

> sunday at the same place. Any subsequent change will be intimated

to

> the list. We shall discuss our charts in details on proffession /

> career prospects, relations between D1, D9 & D10 vargas and any

other

> related topics.

> >

> > Details of the discussions are submitted below. There were some

> questions from the perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD

> CAPITAL words. We seek guidance from the gurus and experienced

list

> members on those.

> >

> > AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:

> >

> > 1. Praveen Agarwal

> > AK venus is in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So

Ista

> is Shiva.

> > Mars is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his

Palanadevata

> is Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman

> >

> > 2. Aswin

> > AK is Rahu and presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from

> karakamsa is Virgo -empty. So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is

in

> 1st drekana. so his Ista is Lord Rama.

> > In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is

> more advanced - so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru.

He

> is actually a devotee of Shirdhi Saibaba.

> >

> > DOUBT-1:

> > CHARAKARAKA REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO

> ISTA. BUT WHO WILL LEAD THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE

> MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA AND IT IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK

HIS

> TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE?

> >

> > 3. Dr. Ramachandani

> > AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra (5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from

> karakamsa. Sat is more advanced so Narayana is Istadevata.

> > AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in navamsa also

Taurus. So

> his Ista and Palanadevata are same.

> >

> > 4. Viswanadhan

> > AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is

> empty. So Mars lord of scorpio indicates Ista and

Kartikeya/Scanda or

> Lord Hanumana is his Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with

Jup

> & Sat.

> >

> > DOUBT-2:

> > WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM KARAKAMSA,

PLANET

> HAVING MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH FROM

KARAKAMSA

> IS EMPTY AND THE LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS (AS

IN

> THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF

12TH

> FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD ONLY BE CONSIDERED?

> >

> > Amk is Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun

i.e

> Shiva should be his Palnadevata.

> >

> > DOUBT-3

> > SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY

SIGN

> CANCER - HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE

EFFECT?

> WILL THE PALANADEVATA WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS SUN IS IN ENEMY

HOUSE?

> >

> > 5. J.K. Dasgupta

> > AK is Jup in Gem in nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is

> Venus. It is also having rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is

Mahalaksmi.

> > Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th from it is Libra. Again Libra is

> empty. So lord Venus indicate Palandevata and here Istadevata and

> Palanadevata is same.

> >

> > CAREER PROSPECTS OF ASWIN:

> >

> > Birth data is,

> > DOB: 18.03.1975

> > TOB: 12.20 pm

> > Patna, Bihar

> >

> > Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in Pune. He

lost

> his job on 31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts were

not

> available. So detail discussion could not be done. But it was

seen in

> general that,

> > 1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is debilated

in

> 6th. So in general the pereiod is difficult for him

> > 2. Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house

debilated.

> >

> > So Ve sub-sub created problem from him.

> > Another thing was observed that Ketu is in 12th house with Moon

(2d

> 50m, nearing deep exaultation ). During Moon mahadasa he was in

> hostel away from his home.

> > In general it was opined that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa

starting

> from 27.05.2002 should give him a job as Mars - as Mars is in

Moon

> nakhsatra and Mars and Moon are in trine to each other. A job

away

> from his present place (even outside India) might be possible.

More

> detail discussions on this will be taken up during next meeting.

> >

> > GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON

THIS.

> >

> > We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002

> >

> > With humble regards,

> >

> > jk dasgupta

> >

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dear shriram,

 

i fully aggree with you. what i wanted to tell that finer rectifications might

be required, based on other aspects also - to arrive at a more accurate dasa

timimng for better predictions.

 

regards,

 

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shris1

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Tuesday, April 23, 2002 8:46 PM

[sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Dear Dasgupta, What you are saying is true, to rectify a chart we

need to see all points you have mentioned. But if you assume that

the time is close to the correct time (+- 30 min , as an example), the given

details are enough to rectify the time (in most cases). I hope

you have seen some of Sanjaijis analysis on birth rectification using dasamsa .

Just by knowing your current career trends & nature of job, i have seen him

rectifiy charts (based on dasamsa). Have a look at Sanjaijis

article on Dasamsa that appeared on AM. Assuming that 12:20pm is

close to his birth time, based on the details you have provided regarding his

career , iam very positive that his correct birth is between

12:06-12:11pm.Regards,Shriramsjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...>

wrote:> dear shriram,> > namaste. i hope aswin is seeing these mails. you have

validly pointed out that charts should be rectified before interpretations. i

think your reasonings of BT rectification in his case has a point. but we have

not tried it yet. > > but i think this should not be the only basis to correct

the birth time. as my knowledge goes, other areas to look are (GURUS AND LEARNED

MEMBERS MAY KINDLY GUIDE)> > 1. no of siblings> 2. status of parents and

relation with them> 3. relation with spouse - if married> 4. no of children> 5.

mathching some major events in the native's life.> 6. lastly fine tuning the

time by methods like kunda rectifications etc. > > in fact i have got some

astonishing results in BT rectification only by applying step no 1, 4 (if

married), 5 and 6. > > > jk dasgupta> > ps: aswin.> > why don't you give the

above deatils to the list-if you have no objection. any body interested - may

try to rectify your BT and we shall be better equipped during our next

meeting.> > - > shris1 > sjvc >

Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:38 AM> [sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting

proceedings, mumbai chapter> > > Dear Dasgupta,> Namastae!>

I thought i would tell my views regarding Aswins's chart > (about

whose career you had mentioned at the end of your mail).> >

Based on his career details, software firm, MBA , lost > job during

Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be between > 12:06pm to 12:11pm.

(as supposed to 12:20pm that you have specified)> > This would

give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun& Sat > in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing

towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th > (software firm) . > >

Rahu is in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna > Lord Mars is under

bandana yoga between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and > Sun/Sat in 11th from it.

Rahu/Sat caused him trouble.> > Rahu in 8th in Navamsa, Saturn

(Malefic for Pisces > Navamsa) is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He

lost his job > during Rahu/Sat/Ven.> > As you have said yes

Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a job. > However Rahu/Sat there will pose

difficulty. > > Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He will start

> righting good code again.> > Regards,> Shriram> > sjvc,

"j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> > MessageRespected Sanjayji, Solaiji,

other Gurus and all list > members,> > > > With your blessings we started

our 2nd meeting at the house of Dr. > Ramchandani (Anushaktinagar, Chembur).

As Solaiji pointed out, it was > the auspicious day of Ram Navami. The

diiscussion started at about > 4.30 pm and continued upto 8.30 pm. It was an

excellent and very > friutfull evening we passed together. For sure, this is

the best way > to learn and clear each other's doubts and one life may not be

> sufficient to learn even a tip of the subject. > > > > The following

persons were present,> > > > 1. Dr. Ramchandani (BARC, Mumbai) - He is a

neuclear scientist and > a member of " vedic astrology" discussion

group. He is studying > astrology since a long time and have a very good

knowledge of KP > system.> > 2. Dr. Ramakrishnan (BARC, Mumbai)- He is also

a neuclear > scientist. He has done research on KP system and also written a

book > on the application of KP system on various charts. He distributed >

complementary copies of his book to each of us. We are all greatfull > to him

for this.> > 3. Aswin (Pune)> > 4. Viswanadhan (Mumbai)> > 5. Praveen

Agarwal (Mumbai)> > 4. J.K. Dasgupta (Mumbai)> > > > Nandan Chakravarty

and Aruna Kawad could not attend as they were > preoccupied with work and

they intimated the same.> > > > We started with meditation, followed by

discussions on,> > > > * AK, how to find Istadavata and Palanadevata in the

chart.> > * Discussion on the chart of Aswin on his career prospects.> > *

General discussion on KP method.> > * General discussion on KSY and KAY> >

* General discussion on analysis of siblings from D3 chart> > * General

discussion on functinal benefic and malefics> > > > It was decided that the

next meeting will be held on 12.05.2002, > sunday at the same place. Any

subsequent change will be intimated to > the list. We shall discuss our

charts in details on proffession / > career prospects, relations between D1,

D9 & D10 vargas and any other > related topics.> > > > Details of the

discussions are submitted below. There were some > questions from the

perticipants - which have been shown in BOLD > CAPITAL words. We seek

guidance from the gurus and experienced list > members on those.> > > >

AK, ISTADEVATA AND PALANADEVATA:> > > > 1. Praveen Agarwal> > AK venus is

in Aries navamsa. Sun is in 12th house from it. So Ista > is Shiva.> > Mars

is in the 6th house from AmK in navamsa. So his Palanadevata > is

Kartikeya/Scanda or Lord Hanuman> > > > 2. Aswin> > AK is Rahu and

presently he is running Rahu mahadasa. 12th from > karakamsa is Virgo -empty.

So Ista is denoted by mercury. He is in > 1st drekana. so his Ista is Lord

Rama.> > In navamsa 6th from Amk is Leo, having sun and jup there.Jup is >

more advanced - so he indicates palanadevata. Jup indicates Guru. He > is

actually a devotee of Shirdhi Saibaba.> > > > DOUBT-1: > > CHARAKARAKA

REPRESENTED BY ISTADEVATA SHALL LEAD THE NATIVE TO > ISTA. BUT WHO WILL LEAD

THE NATIVE TO PALANADEVATA? IN HIS CASE > MERCURY IS CHARA MATRIKARAKA AND IT

IS HIS MOTHER WHO FIRST TOOK HIS > TO SAI BABA TEMPLE. DOES IT HAVE ANY

SIGNIFICANCE?> > > > 3. Dr. Ramachandani> > AK is Jup in Gem (D9). Ra

(5d) and Sat (14d) is in 12 th from > karakamsa. Sat is more advanced so

Narayana is Istadevata. > > AmK is Mercury in Sag (D9). 6th from Amk in

navamsa also Taurus. So > his Ista and Palanadevata are same.> > > > 4.

Viswanadhan> > AK is Sat. In navamsa 12th from karakamsa is Scorpio which is

> empty. So Mars lord of scorpio indicates Ista and Kartikeya/Scanda or >

Lord Hanumana is his Ista. And Mars is in Navamsa lagna Sag with Jup > &

Sat.> > > > DOUBT-2:> > WHEN THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE PLANET IN 12TH FROM

KARAKAMSA, PLANET > HAVING MAXIMUM LONGITUDE INDICATES ISTA. BUT WHEN 12TH

FROM KARAKAMSA > IS EMPTY AND THE LORD IS AT ANOTHER HOUSE WITH OTHER PLANETS

(AS IN > THIS CASE) - DOES THE SAME RULE APPLY? OR AS A GENERAL RULE, IF 12TH

> FROM KARAKAMSA IS EMPTY - ITS LORD ONLY BE CONSIDERED?> > > > Amk is

Jup and in navamsa Sun is at 6th from it at Taurus. Sun i.e > Shiva should be

his Palnadevata. > > > > DOUBT-3> > SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE AND LORD OF

TAURUS, VENUS IS IN WATERY SIGN > CANCER - HAVING RASHI DRISTI ON TAURUS.

WHAT SHOULD BE THE EFFECT? > WILL THE PALANADEVATA WILL REMAIN THE SAME - AS

SUN IS IN ENEMY HOUSE?> > > > 5. J.K. Dasgupta> > AK is Jup in Gem in

nanamsa. 12th from it Taurus empty. Lord is > Venus. It is also having

rashidristi on Taurus. So Ista is Mahalaksmi.> > Amk is Sun in Gemini and 6th

from it is Libra. Again Libra is > empty. So lord Venus indicate Palandevata

and here Istadevata and > Palanadevata is same.> > > > CAREER PROSPECTS

OF ASWIN:> > > > Birth data is,> > DOB: 18.03.1975> > TOB: 12.20 pm>

> Patna, Bihar> > > > Aswin is MBA and was working in a software firm in

Pune. He lost > his job on 31.10.2001 during his Ra-Sa-Ve period. Div charts

were not > available. So detail discussion could not be done. But it was seen

in > general that,> > 1. He is running AK mahadasa since 5.6.1995, Rahu is

debilated in > 6th. So in general the pereiod is difficult for him> > 2.

Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is placed in 12th house debilated.> > > > So

Ve sub-sub created problem from him.> > Another thing was observed that Ketu

is in 12th house with Moon (2d > 50m, nearing deep exaultation ). During Moon

mahadasa he was in > hostel away from his home. > > In general it was opined

that his next Ra-Sat-Mars dasa starting > from 27.05.2002 should give him a

job as Mars - as Mars is in Moon > nakhsatra and Mars and Moon are in trine

to each other. A job away > from his present place (even outside India) might

be possible. More > detail discussions on this will be taken up during next

meeting.> > > > GURUJI AND OTHER LEARNED LIST MEMBERS MAY PLEASE COMMENT ON

THIS.> > > > We all are looking forward to our next meeting on 12.05.2002>

> > > With humble regards,> > > > jk dasgupta> > > > ps: Aswin,

Viswanadhan and Praveen: Please see if I have missed > something> > >

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Namaste Thankyou for your inputs on my chart. But i am not into hard-core

coding though i have done courses for VB, Oracle, C etc. I was working as

Marketing Executive in an International IT training company. I wanted to

discuss this problem in the next meeting. Which field to choose ? I like

software a lot and equally hardware but my Management degree is Marketing and I

have done Marketing for the past 2+ years. I want to shift now out of training

Industry. Plan to take up Marketing job and do MCSE / Hardware course as have

lot of attraction and liking for it. But confused whether to take it or not or

stick to marketing but then now that i want to come out of Training Industry

where to go even if in Marketing. God knows what to do, what not to do and

whether i am on right track ? Can you throw some light on this. With

Regards,Ashwin Hirani

shris1 <shris1 > wrote: Dear Dasgupta, Namastae!

I thought i would tell my views regarding Aswins's chart (about whose career

you had mentioned at the end of your mail). Based on his career

details, software firm, MBA , lost job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified

his time to be between 12:06pm to 12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you

have specified) This would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun&

Sat in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th (software

firm) . Rahu is in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna

Lord Mars is under bandana yoga between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and Sun/Sat in

11th from it. Rahu/Sat caused him trouble. Rahu in 8th in Navamsa,

Saturn (Malefic for Pisces Navamsa) is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He

lost his job during Rahu/Sat/Ven. As you have said yes Rahu/Sat/Mars

can get him a job. However Rahu/Sat there will pose difficulty.

Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He will start righting good code

again.Regards,Shriram

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Yes, I did get a good offer from a company. I gave interview on 9 th March 2002

for a company in Oman. The job profile was much better than the present one and

pay package was 3 times of what i was drawing in the earlier company. Had

forgotten to take my passport with myself in the interview so sent them the

passport number later that day by mail. On 14 th March i receive show cause

notice from the passport authority that i do not stay in Patna for the last 2

years and my photo does not match. Have now surrendered my passport and will

take 45 days atleast to get another one. The company was supposed to call for

another interview which was merely a formality to submit a copy of my passport

in Last week of March but suddenly became silent and have not responded back.

They had told me that they will check with my passport. So, with their no

response i think its lost .

I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING YOU ALL IN THE NEXT MEETING.

Namaste,

Regards,Ashwin

"j.k. dasgupta" <dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in> wrote:

dear katti,

 

namaste. i hope other mumbai members are also seeing these mails. regarding

applying ND for aswin's chart i think that for Li main dasa 7th from it should

be taken as lagna. i am pasting below an extract from a mail dt. 26.01.02 from

visti in answer to some doubts from fayyaz. i am not conversant with

interpretations of ND. but this type of discussions is the only way to increase

our knowledge.

=================

quote:

question from Fayyaz: When ND begins from 7th house results are seen from 7th

from Dasa rasi. eg:During period of Pisces Rasi we see results taking Virgo as

temp Lagna & count all matters such as Lordship of houses, yogas, transits over

houses,Ashtakavarga (to see strength of Dasa Rasi& planets), Paka/Bhoga rasis,

Deha rasi,Badhaka house.Dusthana houses etc, for the period, from Virgo.

 

Visti: Keep in mind, that its only a temp. Lagna, so lordships Arudhas, and

yogas, do not change, only the persons progression through life.

unqoute:

=================

i am not very sure if as a general case rashi dasa effects are to be seen taking

7th from it as temporary lagna, but in this case 7th from Li i.e Ari is

stronger. so i think that seeing dasa effect considering Ari as temporary lagna

is more logical. (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY PLEASE CORRECT ME AND KINDLY

GIVE GUIDANCE)

 

but AD effect should be seen from the antardasa rasi only - as my knowledge goes.

 

now if you take Li as lagna, then Ve is the lord who is in Ari, weak. in Li-Ge

dasa AD lord is Me. He is in 3:11 position with Ve. So it should not creat much

problem. But if you take Ari as temp lagna them MD lord Mars and Ad lord Mer is

in 2:12 position and definitely not a good period. 6th (service) from AL is Pi

(having swavarga Ju) - 12th from Ari, again problem.

 

now in Li-Ta dasa temp. lagna lord Mars and AD lord Ve in 4:10 position. seems

to be good. in fact recently he almost got an offer from a foreign company -

which fizzled out due to passport problem, as i understood from aswin (ASWIN

MAY CORRECT ME). may be weak Ve placement and its transit in Ari that time

caused this. but i think in LI-Ta position should improve. Ta has exaulted Moon

with Ke, and Moon is in star of Su (in 12th from temp lagna) and Ke is in star

of Moon - he may suddenly get an offer from a place away from his present place

of stay (pune). and he has to take decission without getting much chance to

think. note here that temp lagna lord Mars is also in star of Moon and

exaulted. anyway his Li-Ar dasa should be good. but whatever happens, he shall

face problem everywhere- as he is running Ra (AK) mahadasa.

 

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF YOU ARE CONVERSANT WITH RASHI DASA INTERPRETATIONS. ALSO

PLEASE SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO ATTEND OUR NEXT MEETING ON 12.5.02 WHEN WE

SHALL DISCUSS THIS CHART AND OTHER CHARTS IN DETAIL (ON CAREER AND PROFFESSIONS

ONLY). WE ALL SHALL BE VERY GLAD. STILL THERE IS LOT OF TIME AND BOOKING ETC.

MAY NOT BE VERY DIFFICULT.

 

MORE THE NUMBER, MORE WILL BE THE FLOW AND EXCHANGE OF KNOWLEDGE. IN FACT WE

SHALL REQUEST ALL SJVC MEMBERS-WHO EVER IS IN MUMBAI THAT TIME TO KINDLY ATTEND

THE SAME.

 

 

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I have no objection in giving the details to the list. I am enclosing them below:-

1. no of siblings:- We are two brothers. I am the younger one. No sister. 2.

status of parents and relation with them : Father had a business of Electronics

- TV, Video, Audio, and mother is a housewife. Brother currently handling the

business. 3. Appendix Operation on : 19 th April 1991 ( got released from

hospital on 22 nd April 1991 )

4. In November 1991 came close to death . Had 103 high fever constant due to

toncilites problem. Could not drink water nor eat food. As Last resort was

given Life Saving Drug which saved me. 5. Went outside home for studies,

reached Pune where my brother was studying : 26 th June 1993

6. Got Admission into B.Com in Pune : 27 th July 1993 7. Hospitalized for

Typhoid : November 1995 and came out after 4 days. 8. Cleared my B.Com with

1st Division: April 1996

9. Got Admission into M.B.A. : July 1997 and started in August '97

10. Father Expired: 25 th November 1997

11. Cleared M.B.A. with Marketing Specialisation : July 1999

12. Reached back home leaving Pune forever to Join Family business : 13 th of July 1999

13. But Came back to Pune after severe problems with brother: 19 th September 1999

14. Took officially my first job : 2 nd December 1999

15. Left the job and joined an International Company : 24 th April 2000

16. Brothers Marraige : 8 th February 2001 [Did not attend his marraige.

Not in good terms with him ]

17. Got retrenched : 31 st October 2001. 18. 9 th March 2002 : Got an offer

from a company in Oman but now fizzed out.

I am not married, so no matter of children. I thank all of you who took efforts

for rectifying my birth chart and i hope the above information is sufficient as

i have a lot of data but filtered them to this many. Pranam With Regards,Ashwin

"j.k. dasgupta" <dga (AT) bom5 (DOT) vsnl.net.in> wrote:

dear shriram,

 

namaste. i hope aswin is seeing these mails. you have validly pointed out that

charts should be rectified before interpretations. i think your reasonings of

BT rectification in his case has a point. but we have not tried it yet.

 

but i think this should not be the only basis to correct the birth time. as my

knowledge goes, other areas to look are (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY KINDLY

GUIDE)

 

1. no of siblings

2. status of parents and relation with them

3. relation with spouse - if married

4. no of children

5. mathching some major events in the native's life.

6. lastly fine tuning the time by methods like kunda rectifications etc.

 

in fact i have got some astonishing results in BT rectification only by applying

step no 1, 4 (if married), 5 and 6.

 

 

jk dasgupta

 

ps: aswin.

 

why don't you give the above deatils to the list-if you have no objection. any

body interested - may try to rectify your BT and we shall be better equipped

during our next meeting.

 

-

shris1

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Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:38 AM

[sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter

Dear Dasgupta, Namastae! I thought i would tell my views

regarding Aswins's chart (about whose career you had mentioned at the end of

your mail). Based on his career details, software firm, MBA , lost

job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be between 12:06pm to

12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you have specified) This

would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun& Sat in 2nd (Sag) - Pointing

towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th (software firm) . Rahu is

in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna Lord Mars is under bandana yoga

between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and Sun/Sat in 11th from it. Rahu/Sat caused him

trouble. Rahu in 8th in Navamsa, Saturn (Malefic for Pisces Navamsa)

is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . - He lost his job during Rahu/Sat/Ven.

As you have said yes Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a job. However Rahu/Sat

there will pose difficulty. Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He

will start righting good code again.Regards,Shriram

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Namaste

I am enclosing below the details that may help in rectifying my chart. 1. no of

siblings:- We are two brothers. I am the younger one. No sister. 2. status

of parents and relation with them : Father had a business of Electronics - TV,

Video, Audio, and mother is a housewife. Brother currently handling the

business. 3. Appendix Operation on : 19 th April 1991 ( got released from

hospital on 22 nd April 1991 )

4. In November 1991 came close to death . Had 103 high fever constant due to

toncilites problem. Could not drink water nor eat food. As Last resort was

given Life Saving Drug which saved me. 5. Went outside home for studies,

reached Pune where my brother was studying : 26 th June 1993

6. Got Admission into B.Com in Pune : 27 th July 1993 7. Hospitalized for

Typhoid : November 1995 and came out after 4 days. 8. Cleared my B.Com with

1st Division: April 1996

9. Got Admission into M.B.A. : July 1997 and started in August '97

10. Father Expired: 25 th November 1997

11. Cleared M.B.A. with Marketing Specialisation : July 1999

12. Reached back home leaving Pune forever to Join Family business : 13 th of July 1999

13. But Came back to Pune after severe problems with brother: 19 th September 1999

14. Took officially my first job : 2 nd December 1999

15. Left the job and joined an International Company : 24 th April 2000

16. Brothers Marraige : 8 th February 2001 [Did not attend his marraige.

Not in good terms with him ]

17. Got retrenched : 31 st October 2001. 18. 9 th March 2002 : Got an offer

from a company in Oman but now fizzed out. Attached also is my Birth Chart of

12:20 p.m. in .jhd format. Regards,Ashwin

shris1 <shris1 > wrote: Dear Dasgupta, What you are

saying is true, to rectify a chart we need to see all points you have

mentioned. But if you assume that the time is close to the correct

time (+- 30 min , as an example), the given details are enough to rectify the

time (in most cases). I hope you have seen some of Sanjaijis

analysis on birth rectification using dasamsa . Just by knowing your current

career trends & nature of job, i have seen him rectifiy charts (based on

dasamsa). Have a look at Sanjaijis article on Dasamsa that

appeared on AM. Assuming that 12:20pm is close to his birth time,

based on the details you have provided regarding his career , iam very positive

that his correct birth is between 12:06-12:11pm.Regards,Shriram--- In

sjvc, "j.k. dasgupta" <dga@b...> wrote:> dear shriram,> > namaste. i hope

aswin is seeing these mails. you have validly pointed out that charts should be

rectified before interpretations. i think your reasonings of BT rectification in

his case has a point. but we have not tried it yet. > > but i think this should

not be the only basis to correct the birth time. as my knowledge goes, other

areas to look are (GURUS AND LEARNED MEMBERS MAY KINDLY GUIDE)> > 1. no of

siblings> 2. status of parents and relation with them> 3. relation with spouse

- if married> 4. no of children> 5. mathching some major events in the native's

life.> 6. lastly fine tuning the time by methods like kunda rectifications etc.

> > in fact i have got some astonishing results in BT rectification only by

applying step no 1, 4 (if married), 5 and 6. > > > jk dasgupta> > ps: aswin.>

> why don't you give the above deatils to the list-if you have no objection.

any body interested - may try to rectify your BT and we shall be better

equipped during our next meeting.> > - >

shris1 > sjvc > Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:38 AM> Subject:

[sjvc] Re: 2nd meeting proceedings, mumbai chapter> > > Dear Dasgupta,>

Namastae!> I thought i would tell my views regarding

Aswins's chart > (about whose career you had mentioned at the end of your

mail).> > Based on his career details, software firm, MBA , lost

> job during Rahu-Sat-Venus, i have rectified his time to be between >

12:06pm to 12:11pm. (as supposed to 12:20pm that you have specified)> >

This would give dasamsa lagna as Scorpio, with Sun& Sat > in 2nd (Sag)

- Pointing towards Management , Ketu & Mer in 6th > (software firm) . > >

Rahu is in Libra in 12th - He Lost his job . D-10 Lagna > Lord Mars

is under bandana yoga between Ketu/Mer in 3ed from it and > Sun/Sat in 11th

from it. Rahu/Sat caused him trouble.> > Rahu in 8th in Navamsa,

Saturn (Malefic for Pisces > Navamsa) is in Lagna, Venus in 3ed in Navamsa . -

He lost his job > during Rahu/Sat/Ven.> > As you have said yes

Rahu/Sat/Mars can get him a job. > However Rahu/Sat there will pose

difficulty. > > Rahu / Mercury will be far better. He will start

> righting good code again.> > Regards,> Shriram>

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Dear Ashwin,

I would think 12:09pm is your rectified birth time . We

could rectify further by considering visamsa details (considering

deties) ... & finally pranapada .

 

In Rasi, 11th from AL is Sun (A6 in Leo), showing

enimity with elder brother . Jupiter in 10th from Lagna combust by

Sun (malefic for Gemini) , showing trouble from brother wrt work .

This trouble came during Mars dasa , who is aspecting Leo by 8th

house aspect.

 

Navamsa Lagna has to be Pisces . AK - in 8th , pointing

to physical troubles , occult matters etc.

 

D-10 Lagna is Scorpio . Rahu in 12th will cause trouble

to your career. It will make you spiritual though during its dasa

(also added to it is Rahu is AK).

 

Lost job during Rahu/Sat. Sat in Sg (2nd house) with

Sun . Saturn aspects 8th also with Sun will block the Mgmt related

work that you are doing (where you doing more of mgmt related

stuff ?). You will start doing software related job during Rahu/Merc.

 

This time gives D-12 Lagna as Sg with 6th house having

Jup/Me/Ven - showing business of your father. Is he very dominating

type ? (Denoted by parivartana between exalted sun & mars).

 

 

regards,

Shriram

 

Below are the details, in case others want to comment.

 

Date of Birth: March 18, 1975

Time of Birth: 12:09:00 pm

Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

Longitude of Birth: 85 E 08

Latitude of Birth: 25 N 36

Lunar month (maasa): Phalguna

Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Panchami

Tithi balance: 0.0681

Nakshatra balance: 0.5467

Sun-Moon Yoga: Vishkambha

Sun-Moon Karana: Balava

Vara (weekday): Tuesday

 

Sunrise = 5:57 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

Ayanamsa = 23-30-54

Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

 

Planet Position Pada CharaK

 

Ascdt 17 Ge 21 Aardra 4 -

Sun 3 Pi 31 U.Bhaa. 1 GK

Moon 2 Ta 42 Krittika 2 DK

Mars 17 Cp 50 Sravanam 3 BK

Mercury 8 Aq 55 Satabhisham 1 MK

Jupiter 6 Pi 22 U.Bhaa. 1 PiK

Venus 4 Ar 30 Aswini 2 PK

Saturn 18 Ge 26 Aardra 4 AmK

Rahu 11 Sc 02 Anuradha 3 AK

Ketu 11 Ta 02 Rohini 1 -

BhavaLg 6 Ge 02 Mrigasira 4 -

HoraLg 8 Vi 48 U.Pha. 4 -

GhatiLg 17 Ge 06 Aardra 4 -

Dhooma 16 Cn 51 Aasresha 1 -

Vyati 13 Sg 08 Moola 4 -

Pari 13 Ge 08 Aardra 2 -

I.Chapa 16 Cp 51 Sravanam 3 -

Upaketu 3 Aq 31 Dhanishtha 4 -

Kaala 24 Cn 22 Aasresha 3 -

Mrityu 2 Pi 27 Poo.Bhaa. 4 -

ArthaPr 3 Ar 03 Aswini 1 -

YamaGha 0 Ta 31 Krittika 2 -

Mandi 25 Ge 00 Punarvasu 2 -

Gulika 15 Ge 03 Aardra 3 -

 

 

+----------------------+

| | | | BL Glk |

| Sun | | Moo | |

| | Ven | | GL Asc |

| Jup | | Ket | |

| | | | Sat Mnd |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Mer | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| R A S I |-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Mar | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| | Rah | | HL |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| GL Asc | | Ven | |

| | Ket | | Mar |

| Sat HL | | Mnd | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| Glk | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

| | | |

| | | Sun |

| Moo | | |

| | | Jup |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| | | | |

| Mer | BL | Rah | |

| | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

 

 

 

+----------------------+

| | | | |

| | Ket | | |

| | | Ven | |

| | Mer | | |

| | | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| Mnd | | |

| | | HL |

| Mar | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 1 0 |-------------|

| | | |

| Moo | | |

| | | BL |

| Jup | | |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | Glk | | |

| Sat | | | |

| | GL | Rah | |

| Sun | | | |

| | Asc | | |

+----------------------+

 

 

+----------------------+

| | | Ven | |

| | Mnd | | |

| Rah | | Mer | Moo |

| | Sun | | |

| | | Jup | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

| | | |

|-------------| D - 1 2 |-------------|

| | | |

| | | BL |

| Sat | | |

| | | Mar |

| | | |

|-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

| | | | |

| Glk GL | | | |

| | | | Ket |

| Asc HL | | | |

| | | | |

+----------------------+

 

 

sjvc, Ashwin Hirani <ashwiyn> wrote:

>

> Dear Shriram,

> Namaste

> I am enclosing below the details that may help in rectifying my

chart.

> 1. no of siblings:- We are two brothers. I am the younger one.

No sister.

> 2. status of parents and relation with them : Father had a business

of Electronics - TV, Video, Audio, and mother is a housewife.

Brother currently handling the business.

> 3. Appendix Operation on : 19 th April 1991 ( got released from

hospital on 22 nd April 1991 )

> 4. In November 1991 came close to death . Had 103 high fever

constant due to toncilites problem. Could not drink water nor eat

food. As Last resort was given Life Saving Drug which saved me.

> 5. Went outside home for studies, reached Pune where my brother was

studying : 26 th June 1993

> 6. Got Admission into B.Com in Pune : 27 th July 1993

> 7. Hospitalized for Typhoid : November 1995 and came out after 4

days.

> 8. Cleared my B.Com with 1st Division: April 1996

> 9. Got Admission into M.B.A. : July 1997 and started in August '97

> 10. Father Expired: 25 th November 1997

> 11. Cleared M.B.A. with Marketing Specialisation : July 1999

> 12. Reached back home leaving Pune forever to Join Family

business : 13 th of July 1999

> 13. But Came back to Pune after severe problems with brother: 19 th

September 1999

> 14. Took officially my first job : 2 nd December 1999

> 15. Left the job and joined an International Company : 24 th April

2000

> 16. Brothers Marraige : 8 th February 2001 [Did not attend

his marraige. Not in good terms with him ]

> 17. Got retrenched : 31 st October 2001.

> 18. 9 th March 2002 : Got an offer from a company in Oman but now

fizzed out.

> Attached also is my Birth Chart of 12:20 p.m. in .jhd format.

> Regards,

> Ashwin

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Namaste Thanks for the time and effort you putted in for rectifying my chart.

Yes, i became spiritual with the starting of Rahu Vimshottari Dasa. Before that

i use to go to temple ocassionally. Now, its everyday [ by default ]. As far

as father is concerned i don't remember him because by the time i came into my

senses he had already lost his senses. I have very few glimpses of him but

what i heared from my mother i am listing below:-

Yes - he was dominating type. His words were like commands but not harshly in

soft manner. In his own office also everyone was scared of him. He was very

quite, sort of introvert, did not make friends fast. Loving in nature but had

his own way of expressing things. Sometimes he use to get annoyed at simple

things and at other time take heavy things very lightly and laugh it out.

Simple by Nature, had Love for his Family Members, Very Caring and Daani. God

Fearing.

I am giving below his details in case you want/confirm some additional

information : Date of Birth : 11 th November 1941Time of Birth : 3:44 pmTime

zone : 5:00 East of GMTLongitude : 67 E 47Latitude : 26 N 44

[ I wanted to attach .jhd chart but is upgrading and there is problem in

attaching files ] Looking forward to your response. Regards,Ashwin

shris1 <shris1 > wrote: Dear Ashwin, I would think

12:09pm is your rectified birth time . We could rectify further by considering

visamsa details (considering deties) ... & finally pranapada . In

Rasi, 11th from AL is Sun (A6 in Leo), showing enimity with elder brother .

Jupiter in 10th from Lagna combust by Sun (malefic for Gemini) , showing

trouble from brother wrt work .This trouble came during Mars dasa , who is

aspecting Leo by 8th house aspect. Navamsa Lagna has to be Pisces .

AK - in 8th , pointing to physical troubles , occult matters etc.

D-10 Lagna is Scorpio . Rahu in 12th will cause trouble to your career. It will

make you spiritual though during its dasa (also added to it is Rahu is AK).

Lost job during Rahu/Sat. Sat in Sg (2nd house) with Sun . Saturn

aspects 8th also with Sun will block the Mgmt related work that you are doing

(where you doing more of mgmt related stuff ?). You will start doing software

related job during Rahu/Merc. This time gives D-12 Lagna as Sg with

6th house having Jup/Me/Ven - showing business of your father. Is he very

dominating type ? (Denoted by parivartana between exalted sun &

mars).regards,Shriramsjvc, Ashwin Hirani <ashwiyn> wrote:> >

Dear Shriram,> Namaste> I am enclosing below the details that may help in

rectifying my chart. > 1. no of siblings:- We are two brothers. I am the

younger one. No sister. > 2. status of parents and relation with them : Father

had a business of Electronics - TV, Video, Audio, and mother is a housewife.

Brother currently handling the business. > 3. Appendix Operation on : 19 th

April 1991 ( got released from hospital on 22 nd April 1991 )> 4. In November

1991 came close to death . Had 103 high fever constant due to toncilites

problem. Could not drink water nor eat food. As Last resort was given Life

Saving Drug which saved me. > 5. Went outside home for studies, reached Pune

where my brother was studying : 26 th June 1993> 6. Got Admission into B.Com in

Pune : 27 th July 1993 > 7. Hospitalized for Typhoid : November 1995 and came

out after 4 days. > 8. Cleared my B.Com with 1st Division: April 1996> 9. Got

Admission into M.B.A. : July 1997 and started in August '97> 10. Father

Expired: 25 th November 1997> 11. Cleared M.B.A. with Marketing Specialisation

: July 1999> 12. Reached back home leaving Pune forever to Join Family business

: 13 th of July 1999> 13. But Came back to Pune after severe problems with

brother: 19 th September 1999> 14. Took officially my first job : 2 nd December

1999> 15. Left the job and joined an International Company : 24 th April 2000>

16. Brothers Marraige : 8 th February 2001 [Did not attend his marraige.

Not in good terms with him ]> 17. Got retrenched : 31 st October 2001. > 18.

9 th March 2002 : Got an offer from a company in Oman but now fizzed out. >

Attached also is my Birth Chart of 12:20 p.m. in .jhd format. > Regards,>

Ashwin

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