To Sanjay Rathji--Apohan!!

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OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

 

Namaste Shrivatsava,

 

I am terribly tied up. But, your question compelled me to answer. As you said in

another mail, all the answers lies in Gita. That is why Gurudeva advises us to

read Gita first and understand the ATMA (soul), MIND and BODY from Gita. Once

we understand this and the meaning of our life, we can very well understand the

Jyotish.

 

Coming to your question, it is a good question and it needs an elaborate answer

with two way communication, which is not possible here right now. So, let me go

to the last paragraph of your question and answer shortly.

 

The ultimatum of any religious teaching especially Veda and Gita is killing the

Ahamkara, the great "I". Once the Ahamkara is removed completely, not leaving

any residue, then you are at complete bliss. But, is it so easy to remove? No.

Before going further, all other religious teachings have one code of conduct or

rituals or set of religious rules for all the people. But, Veda and Gita

segmented the whole population into 3 groups - Satwa, Rajo and Tamas. Then

different teaching methods are prescribed for each group. Can you go to tribal

area and teach them Veda and Gita to them to realise God? No. For them Bakthi

Yoga is prescribed. If you are knowledgeable and questions the life and search

for ultimate truth, for you Gyana Yoga is prescribed. Someone is with more Rajo

Guna and he always wants to do something. He cannot sit idle without doing

anything. OK, for him Karma Yoga is prescribed.

 

The bottom line is we have to surrender "I" , the ahamkara, to the God and

accept that he is the one and only one who operates in and out of us. In Bakthi

yoga we straight away surrender the whole body, mind and soul to the feet of

God. In Karma yoga, we first surrender the Karma to the lotus feet, without any

attachment, then slowly move to Bakthi, to surrender everything. In Gyana yoga,

we realise that we have to remove the "I" then we surrender to God, through

Bakthi. The end is bakthi in all 3. But, bakthi yoga is slow, karma yoga is

little faster, and gyana yoga is fastest.

 

Gyana should not be mistaken for literacy. Gyana is self realisation.

 

I know this is not what you asked for. But, try out what is given below and you

will get the answer. Otherwise, later when I get more time I will write.

 

The simple way to remove "I" is: Whenever we spell out anything to others (oral

and written), note down the "I" related words, I, me, mine, my including the

implied words, like our name. And then think those sentences without these "I"

related words and there from think who is this "I".

 

Thanks

Solaikannan

 

Lalta Prasad Shrivastava

[lpshrivastava2002 ]22 May 2002 8:24 PMTo:

sjvcSubject: [sjvc] To Sanjay Rathji--Apohan!!

Revd. Rathji, I have some queries regarding Geeta. In 10th discourse, "teshaam

satatyuktaanaam bhajtaam........ gyaandeepen bhaasuta" ....meaning.... God can

only give the proper Gyaan who is existing in every one of us. Again, "Buddhi

Gyaan Samoha.......... Mattaive prathak vidha" ...it means... again God is the

tool who is creating all type of inspirations in every jeev aatmaa to act

accordingly. In 18th discourse this has again been confirmed that "Ishwarah

sarvabhootaanaam ........ maaya" ... In previous 4th discourse too "Deviyahesha

gunamayee ......... tarantitey" ...it clearly shows that God is the means

(through his trigunamayee Maaya) for every happening in the world and obviously

jeevaatma is to perform Karmaas as directed by Maaya which is confirmed as the

most difficult one by the God himself. The only remedy to overcome this Maaya

is to take sharan of the God. It is not known that if the God has created us to

perform Karmaas as per direction of the Maaya then how the Sharan of the God

change the Karma of the Jeevaatma. I think there is no difference between will

of God and his trigunamayee Maaya. Then what is the significance of Karma Yoga,

Gyaan yoga, Bhakti yoga when everyone has to take the Sharan of God to overcome

his Maaya. how one can realize the will of God so that he can be happy and

contented in his life? Regards, L.P. Shrivastava

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Solai,

Where in the Gita does Lord Krishna reveal such teachings about bhakti, gyan and

karma yoga in terms of speed on the path? This is not correct!

Regards

Brendan

OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH

JAYA JAGANNATHA

Namaste Shrivatsava,

I am terribly tied up. But, your question compelled me to answer. As you said in

another mail, all the answers lies in Gita. That is why Gurudeva advises us to

read Gita first and understand the ATMA (soul), MIND and BODY from Gita. Once

we understand this and the meaning of our life, we can very well understand the

Jyotish.

Coming to your question, it is a good question and it needs an elaborate answer

with two way communication, which is not possible here right now. So, let me go

to the last paragraph of your question and answer shortly.

The ultimatum of any religious teaching especially Veda and Gita is killing the

Ahamkara, the great "I". Once the Ahamkara is removed completely, not leaving

any residue, then you are at complete bliss. But, is it so easy to remove? No.

Before going further, all other religious teachings have one code of conduct or

rituals or set of religious rules for all the people. But, Veda and Gita

segmented the whole population into 3 groups - Satwa, Rajo and Tamas. Then

different teaching methods are prescribed for each group. Can you go to tribal

area and teach them Veda and Gita to them to realise God? No. For them Bakthi

Yoga is prescribed. If you are knowledgeable and questions the life and search

for ultimate truth, for you Gyana Yoga is prescribed. Someone is with more Rajo

Guna and he always wants to do something. He cannot sit idle without doing

anything. OK, for him Karma Yoga is prescribed.

The bottom line is we have to surrender "I" , the ahamkara, to the God and

accept that he is the one and only one who operates in and out of us. In Bakthi

yoga we straight away surrender the whole body, mind and soul to the feet of

God. In Karma yoga, we first surrender the Karma to the lotus feet, without any

attachment, then slowly move to Bakthi, to surrender everything. In Gyana yoga,

we realise that we have to remove the "I" then we surrender to God, through

Bakthi. The end is bakthi in all 3. But, bakthi yoga is slow, karma yoga is

little faster, and gyana yoga is fastest.

 

Gyana should not be mistaken for literacy. Gyana is self realisation.

I know this is not what you asked for. But, try out what is given below and you

will get the answer. Otherwise, later when I get more time I will write.

The simple way to remove "I" is: Whenever we spell out anything to others (oral

and written), note down the "I" related words, I, me, mine, my including the

implied words, like our name. And then think those sentences without these "I"

related words and there from think who is this "I".

Thanks

Solaikannan