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Hello Visti,

 

Namaste. Even I would like to attempt this assignment. I hope it is ok. If

so, please let me know if I have got my answers right.

 

Assignment

==========

1) List out the Karakas for the following 4th house activities:

Mother, Education, House, Lands, Vehicles/luxuries, and Maternal

Happines(sukha).

 

Answer

======

I think the Karakas would be as follows:

a) Mother - Mother represents love, care and comfort and so does the moon.

So, karaka for mother is the moon.

 

b) Education - I am a little confused here. If we are talking about

religious studies then perhaps it is Jupiter since Jupiter is the

Guru/Teacher. But, Mercury/Budha represents inquisitiveness, logic, science

and studying. So, in that case Mercury would be the karaka. So, should we

consider Jupiter or Mercury?

 

c) House - Since, Jupiter brings these riches I would say the karaka for

this is Jupiter/Guru.

 

d) Lands - The karaka for this again is Jupiter/Guru

 

e) Vehicles/luxuries - I would say Jupiter/Guru. But, is'nt venus also

associated with luxuries?

 

f) Maternal happiness - Since, moon represents the mother, the karaka for

this is Moon.

 

 

2) List the relations of Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Saturn.

 

Answer

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a) Sun:

Moolatrikona is leo.

So, 3rd - libra (venus); 6th - capricorn(saturn); 7th - aquarius(saturn);

10th - taurus(venus); 11th - gemini(mercury). So, the result:

Friends: moon, mars, jupiter

Neutral: mercury

Enemies: venus, saturn

 

b) Moon:

Moolatrikona is cancer.

3rd - virgo(mercury); 6th - sagittarius(jupiter); 7th - capricorn(saturn);

10th - aries(mars), 11th - taurus(venus). So:

Friends: sun

Neutral: mercury, jupiter, saturn, mars, venus

Enemies: none

 

c) Jupiter:

Moolatrikona is sagittarius.

So, 3rd - aquarius(saturn); 6th - taurus(venus); 7th - gemini(merc); 10th -

virgo(merc); 11th - libra(venus). So:

Friends: sun, moon, mars

Neutral: saturn, mercury

Enemies: venus

 

d) Saturn:

Moolatrikona is aquarius.

So, 3rd - aries(mars); 6th - cancer(moon); 7th - leo(sun); 10th -

scorpio(mars); 11th - sagittarius(jupiter)

Friends: mercury, venus

Neutral: jupiter

Enemies: mars, moon, sun

 

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vyam vedavyasaaaya namah

Dear Vishwa,

Corrections bellow.

 

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"Vishwa Krishnamurthy" <vishwakasi (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

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Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:38 AM

[sjvc] to Visit - Even I would like to attempt the assignment

> || Sri Rama Jaya Rama Jaya Jaya Rama ||> > Hello Visti,> > Namaste. Even I

would like to attempt this assignment. I hope it is ok. If > so, please let me

know if I have got my answers right.> > Assignment> ==========> 1) List out the

Karakas for the following 4th house activities:> Mother, Education, House,

Lands, Vehicles/luxuries, and Maternal > Happines(sukha).> > Answer> ======> I

think the Karakas would be as follows:> a) Mother - Mother represents love,

care and comfort and so does the moon. > So, karaka for mother is the moon.> >

b) Education - I am a little confused here. If we are talking about > religious

studies then perhaps it is Jupiter since Jupiter is the > Guru/Teacher. But,

Mercury/Budha represents inquisitiveness, logic, science > and studying. So, in

that case Mercury would be the karaka. So, should we > consider Jupiter or

Mercury?

Visti: All Formal education is ruled by Mercury. The quality of the studies

is a different matter, and can be seen from the planet influencing the 4th

lord. Dailai Lama had 4th lord Mercury, joined Sun and Ketu, showing his

buddhist upbringing.

> c) House - Since, Jupiter brings these riches I would say the karaka for >

this is Jupiter/Guru.

Visti: Griha Karaka is Ketu, and is karaka for buildings in general.

> d) Lands - The karaka for this again is Jupiter/Guru

Visti: Mars is Bhoomi Karaka.

> e) Vehicles/luxuries - I would say Jupiter/Guru. But, is'nt venus also >

associated with luxuries?

Visti: Its Venus for both.

> f) Maternal happiness - Since, moon represents the mother, the karaka for > this is Moon.

Visti: Sukha is ruled by Guru.> > 2) List the relations of Sun, Moon, Jupiter

and Saturn.> > Answer> ======> a) Sun:> Moolatrikona is leo.> So, 3rd - libra

(venus); 6th - capricorn(saturn); 7th - aquarius(saturn); > 10th -

taurus(venus); 11th - gemini(mercury). So, the result:> Friends: moon, mars,

jupiter> Neutral: mercury> Enemies: venus, saturn

Yup Perfect.

> b) Moon:> Moolatrikona is cancer.> 3rd - virgo(mercury); 6th -

sagittarius(jupiter); 7th - capricorn(saturn); > 10th - aries(mars), 11th -

taurus(venus). So:> Friends: sun> Neutral: mercury, jupiter, saturn, mars,

venus> Enemies: none

Yup your right, but isn't Cancers Moolatrikona Taurus?

> c) Jupiter:> Moolatrikona is sagittarius.> So, 3rd - aquarius(saturn); 6th -

taurus(venus); 7th - gemini(merc); 10th - > virgo(merc); 11th - libra(venus).

So:> Friends: sun, moon, mars> Neutral: saturn, mercury> Enemies: venus

Explain why Mercury is neutral? rest is right.

> d) Saturn:> Moolatrikona is aquarius.> So, 3rd - aries(mars); 6th -

cancer(moon); 7th - leo(sun); 10th - > scorpio(mars); 11th -

sagittarius(jupiter)> Friends: mercury, venus> Neutral: jupiter> Enemies: mars,

moon, sun

Yes perfect.

> regards,> vishwa.

Now answer my questions and we will continue.

Best wishes, Visti.

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Jaya Jagannatha

All glories to Sri Krsna Janmastami

Dears Jyotishas,please accept my pranams.

I have a very interesting chart in my hands,the date of birth is July 16

1970 at 4:20pm 72 e 50 and 18 n 58. TZ:5:30 east of Gmt.

The native had a hard first years, but he leaved his country,and worked very

hard to get a big fortune(2 lord in the 12).See the yoga in tha 9 house,the

nine lord in the first,and the Parivarthana beetwen one and ten lord who is

vargottama.He did his fortune in the dasa of venus in the 10 house,and the

dispositor of the 2 and 5 lord,he also have Sani in the 6house

debilitated,so he can go over the problems in his live with facility.Now he

is in the dasa of Sun(2001-07)and will be a very good periode but my

question is about the future dasas and the debilitated position of the lords

of this dasas,he made a big fortune with 3 planets in debilitation!!!and

then will come the dasa of moon, 9 lord debilitated in the 1 and then the

dasa of mars ths first lord debilitade in the 9,in some moment the

influencie of this planets will show their bad face?or the power of theirs

positions is enough proteccion to continue in a life of plenitude.Now for

example he is very sad because he had 2 daugthers but he can´t get a son .I

give him a muhurtha for conception,but there is another remedy for his

problem?.And what kind of puja he should do for this debilitated planets.

 

I´m very hapy to get so nice asociation in this SJVC group.you are so

kind.thank you

yours

Caitanya Candra Das

 

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Dear Visti,

 

Thanks for the response. I am really happy that I am learning a lot. Thanks

for correcting my mistakes.

 

Let me now try to intrepret why the karakas are as you mentioned. (I had

made several mistakes here... but have now learnt somethings). Please let

me know if I am right:

 

1)The karakas:

a)Moon stands for love, care and selfless service. Since mother is a

personality with unlimited amount of love, care and service to her family,

the karaka for mother is the moon.

 

b)Mercury is fond of studying and is ever inquisitive. He loves to

communicate and gain knowledge. So, Mercury is the karaka for education.

 

c)I always thought Ketu stands for renunciation, introvertedness, salvation.

Is there a particular reason why Ketu is also a karaka for buildings?

 

d)Mars is the son of the earth. He is a hardworker and loves to toil. He is

the cause for activity. Thus, Mars is the karaka for lands.

 

e)Venus is fond of wealth and comforts. He loves to be surrounded by

luxurious and expensive articles. Vehicles are also an expensive luxury. So,

Venus is the karaka for Vehicles.

 

f)Oh! Is happiness in general governed by Jupiter? I thought that since

happiness is an expression of mind, it might have been represented by Moon.

Moreover, I translated maternal happiness to be the happiness of the mother.

I now understand the reason for Guru being the Karaka. Thanks for correcting

me.

 

 

2) Relations between planets

 

a) So, my answer for sun was right. Glad, I got at least one right. I will

list it again:

Friends: moon, mars, jupiter

Neutral: mercury

Enemies: venus, saturn

 

<Visti>Yup your right, but isn't Cancers Moolatrikona Taurus?

 

b) You are right. The Moolatrikona for the moon is taurus and not cancer.

The Moolatrikona is the sign where the planet is duty-bound. Since, Moon

loves to serve and cook, she has her duty in the kitchen and dining halls.

This is represented by Taurus. So, Taurus is the moolatrikona for Moon.

 

So, the relations for the moon are:

Moolatrikona is taurus.

3rd - cancer(moon????); 6th - libra(venus); 7th - scorpio(mars); 10th -

aquarius(saturn), 11th - pisces(jupiter). So:

Friends: sun, mercury

Neutral: jupiter, saturn, mars, venus

Enemies: none

 

<Visti>Explain why Mercury is neutral? rest is right.

c) I made a mistake here. I am sorry. I will redo for Jupiter again:

Moolatrikona is sagittarius.

So, 3rd - aquarius(saturn); 6th - taurus(venus); 7th - gemini(merc); 10th -

virgo(merc); 11th - libra(venus). So:

Friends: sun, moon, mars

Neutral: saturn

Enemies: mercury, venus

 

d) Seems like I got saturn also right. I will outline the conclusion again:

Friends: mercury, venus

Neutral: jupiter

Enemies: mars, moon, sun

 

regards,

vishwa.

 

 

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vyam vedavyasaaya namah

Dear Vishwa

Comments bellow:

Thanks for the response. I am really happy that I am learning a lot. Thanks for

correcting my mistakes.

Visti: My pleasure.

Let me now try to intrepret why the karakas are as you mentioned. (I had made

several mistakes here... but have now learnt somethings). Please let me know

if I am right:1)The karakas:a)Moon stands for love, care and selfless service.

Since mother is a personality with unlimited amount of love, care and service

to her family, the karaka for mother is the moon.

Visti: If we stick to astrological principles; Moon gets exalted and has

Moolatrikona in the Natural 2nd house, hence its her greatest enjoyment and

duty to feed/sustain you. As Vishnu has this objective, Moon is always strong

in the charts of the Vishnu avatara.

b)Mercury is fond of studying and is ever inquisitive. He loves to communicate

and gain knowledge. So, Mercury is the karaka for education.

Visti: Mercury lords, exalts and has moolatrikona in the 3rd and 6th houses,

which are the houses of dhimantah yoga, where intelligence is aquired through

communications and close scrutiny. In the 4th, mercury does these things in

Primary education.

c)I always thought Ketu stands for renunciation, introvertedness, salvation. Is

there a particular reason why Ketu is also a karaka for buildings?

Visti: Kuja vad Ketu. Check bellow. btw, renunciation is indicated by Saturn,

Ketu rules the true spirituality. Autism/introvertedness is also indicated by

Ketu btw.

d)Mars is the son of the earth. He is a hardworker and loves to toil. He is the

cause for activity. Thus, Mars is the karaka for lands.

Visti: Mars is the soldier of the chart, and his aspect on the 4th house

shows his desire to protect! Hence Mars' wants to protect its family, and it

does so by providing lands. We can't protect our family if they live on the

street among everyone else, hence Mars provides lands. Now Ketu the brother of

Mars, always does things abit better than Mars. Whilst Skanda raced around the

world, Ganesh merely walked around his parents(the Sun/Shiva and Moon/Parvati).

In case of Lands, Ketu sees that theres no real use of having lands, if spears

still can fly through them, hence Ketu provides walls and a roof. Whilst Mars

is walking around telling peoeple he's a Brahmachari, Ketu has no need as he's

allready sitting down meditating on Vishnu. Mars is red light, and Ketu is

Infra Red...etc etc.

e)Venus is fond of wealth and comforts. He loves to be surrounded by luxurious

and expensive articles. Vehicles are also an expensive luxury. So, Venus is the

karaka for Vehicles.

 

Visti: yup.f)Oh! Is happiness in general governed by Jupiter? I thought that

since happiness is an expression of mind, it might have been represented by

Moon. Moreover, I translated maternal happiness to be the happiness of the

mother. I now understand the reason for Guru being the Karaka. Thanks for

correcting me.

Visti: Some people minds don't express happiness.2) Relations between

planetsa) So, my answer for sun was right. Glad, I got at least one right. I

will list it again:Friends: moon, mars, jupiterNeutral: mercuryEnemies: venus,

saturn<Visti>Yup your right, but isn't Cancers Moolatrikona Taurus?b) You are

right. The Moolatrikona for the moon is taurus and not cancer. The Moolatrikona

is the sign where the planet is duty-bound. Since, Moon loves to serve and cook,

she has her duty in the kitchen and dining halls. This is represented by Taurus.

So, Taurus is the moolatrikona for Moon.So, the relations for the moon

are:Moolatrikona is taurus.3rd - cancer(moon????); 6th - libra(venus); 7th -

scorpio(mars); 10th - aquarius(saturn), 11th - pisces(jupiter). So:Friends:

sun, mercuryNeutral: jupiter, saturn, mars, venusEnemies: none

Visti: Don't worry, Moon can't be enimical towards itself, just as Venus

can't be enimical towards its exaltation sign.

<Visti>Explain why Mercury is neutral? rest is right.c) I made a mistake here. I

am sorry. I will redo for Jupiter again:Moolatrikona is sagittarius.So, 3rd -

aquarius(saturn); 6th - taurus(venus); 7th - gemini(merc); 10th - virgo(merc);

11th - libra(venus). So:Friends: sun, moon, marsNeutral: saturnEnemies:

mercury, venus

Visti: Good.

d) Seems like I got saturn also right. I will outline the conclusion

again:Friends: mercury, venusNeutral: jupiterEnemies: mars, moon,

sunregards,vishwa.Visti: Good work. I will send a new email with the

promissed 'combined' lesson.

Best wishes, Visti.