Aspects & Special Aspects-apologies

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Dear Hari and List,

My apologies on the blunder about saturn aspecting the 6th from the 9th.I wasnt

thinking.But that did spark of a thought,lets consider Saturn from his natural

house Capricorn which is the 10th(controls action/karma), his 3rd aspects the

12th-Pisces (vyaya) thereby causing grief due to losses and then aspects the

7th i.e Cancer which could imply Lessons as the natural 4th house.So in

summation Saturn controls our actions(Capricorn), causes losses or

grief(Pisces-3rd aspect) and as a result by his 7th aspect he desires to teach

us Lessons in life.The lessons in life would force us to serve(6th from Cancer-

Sagittarius-the natural house of Dharma).

Please comment or critique.

Hare Krishna

Sudharsan

Sudharsan Srinivasan wrote:

Hare Rama Krishna Jaya Jagannatha Dear Hari, That was a good read. In the case

of Saturn the 3rd aspect signifies his desire to control Dharmic service as the

3rd is the 6th from the ninth house of dharma.I could be way off the mark here

but Saturn signifies service and he does enforce justice(Dharma). I am a little

confused about your remarks on the 5th and 9th aspects of Guru. The 5th stands

for purva-punya(good karma from the past lives) and the 9th stands for the

current fortune or Bhagya, so wouldnt the order be that Guru desires to see our

past actions(purva Punya) and guide us in future(9th-Dharma, Bhagya etc).

Thanks. Hare Krishna Sudharsan Katti Narahari wrote:

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear JK,

 

Yes. Rahu's aspect of 12th can be explained. Rahu signifies our desires and

hence is the caouse of re-birth. That;s why he desires to aspect the 12th!.(opp

to his direction)

 

Regds

 

Hari

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j.k. dasgupta

sjvc

Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:38 PM

Re: [sjvc] Re: Aspects & Special Aspects

beautifull explanation.

 

rahu also aspects 12th from it (in the direction opposite to his movement). why?

can it be explained like this? is it because he takes us ultimately to the loss

of self..either as a criminal or as a phylosopher?

 

jk

Katti Narahari

sjvc

Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:43 AM

Re: [sjvc] Re: Aspects & Special Aspects

Om Gurave Namah

 

Dear Visti,

 

Thanks for this assignment. Will try to answer the concept of desire vis-a-vis graha drishti.

 

Graha drishti or planetary aspect denotes the desire of planets that are

manifested in people. Here are the graha drishti's of all planets.

 

1. All planets aspect the 7th from themselves. For example Sun in Cancer will aspect Capricorn.

2. Planets like mars, Saturn, Jupiter have special aspects in addition to their aspecting 7th house.

 

Since the graha drishti is the desire that stems from the inherent nature of the

planet, let;s see why each planet aspects the said houses from their location.

 

Saturn.

 

The special aspect of Saturn is 3rd and the 10th. 3rd and the 10th are

upachayas. They signify growth. Saturn's aspect on 3rd and 10th signifies it;s

inherent desire to give growth and also the desire to guide the native towards

karma. (10th).

 

Mars

 

Mars aspects the 4th and the 8th. Mars through it;s aspect on the 4th and the

8th signifies it;s desire to harm blood and longevity. That is mars desire.

Thus the inherent desire for mars is cuts, injuries and accidents. From this i

think it;s clear that it;s actually mars who gives the cause of death and not

Saturn. (as mistakenly thought of)

 

Jupiter

 

Jupiter is the deva guru. Jupiter is the elder, guru or the preceptor. What does

the preceptor desire? Jupiter sees our past actions ->9th and blesses the future

->5th. Thus Jupiter desires are seen in his aspects of 5th and 9th.

 

Rahu

 

Though only a mathematical point, Rahu's aspect also is based on a desire

inherent to rahu itself. Rahu is always opposed to Jupiter the deva guru. Hence

the desire of rahu is to see all our past actions (9th) but cruses our future

(5th). Thus the aspects of rahu are reverse to that of Jupiter. The inherent

nature of rahu is that of a one who has only the head. Hence he has a mind but

no heart. He could be a perfect criminal or a perfect philosopher too.

 

Ketu

 

Ketu has no head and hence no eyes and cant see anything. He only possesses a

heart. Thus ketu does not have any desire. (no graha drishti)

 

7th house aspect of all planets

 

All planets aspect the 7th house from themselves. The 7th house is the house of

Kama or desires. Here all planets see the 7th house fully or with complete

strength. Since graha drishti is the manifestation of desires of planets/people

the 7th house aspect of kama inherently shows all people are to different

degrees are perverts or have the desire for perverted desires.

 

You have specifically mentioned not to talk about Drishti Bala, i take it you

meant the quantum of aspect. Will eagerly wait for that discussion.

 

Please let me know your comments/corrections.

 

Regards

 

Hari

 

 

 

 

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in_joy_i_scream

sjvc

Wednesday, September 04, 2002 5:47 PM

[sjvc] Re: Aspects & Special Aspects

Vyam Vysaadevaaya

Namah---------------------------Dear Hari,

Please answer the bellow email, and stress the concept of 'desire', when

reckoning Graha Dristi. Stay away from the dristi bala.Best wishes, Visti.---

In sjvc, "b_lakshmi_ramesh" <b_lakshmi_ramesh> wrote:> Om Gurave

Namah> > Namaste Gurus and Friends> > One Sunday, while going for a long walk,

I was musing on aspects and > special aspects and the following occured to me

and I hope to receive > your comments & corrections on the same. > > 1)All

planets aspect 7 house from them..the aspect of pure > Saturn. > > 2)All odd

special aspects 3, 5, 9 can be considered aspects of > Jupiter, though 3rd

aspect is attributed to Saturn.> > I feel 3rd aspect of Saturn is like that of

weak jupiter in Gemini, > Rahu's exaltation house. Could it be that Gemini, the

seat > of "maaya" , is the real debilitation house of Jupiter,> rather than

Capricorn? Infact, in "Jatakachandrika" the effect of > Jupiter placed in

Aries, cancer, scorpio and Capricorn is stated to > be that the native will get

to build ponds, gardens, temples and > museums and will be respected and

revered on earth. Now, that hardly > sounds like Jupiter in debilitation!

Further, 3H is also the > maranakaranasthana of Jupiter.> > I am sure that if

we consider the special aspects of Rahu, 2/12 > (opposing Ketu), 5th (opposing

Sun) and 9th (opposing Jupiter) one > can truly appreciate the fact that Rahu

is the real Antithesis of all > that Ketu /Sun /Jupiter signify. > > Leo the

natural 5th house rules "Dhi" / poorvapunya / progeny/> sishya/intuition, for

all of which Jupiter is a karaka. > Further here, Jupiter is in the house of

his great friend and > according to Guruji Sanjay Rath, Jupiter is the higher

spectrum of > Sun, so it's akin to Jupiter being in own house.> > In Dhanus,

the natural 9th house ruling Dharma, Guru and good luck, > the same principle

applies, but more potently since he's in his> own house. > > 3)All even

aspects 4,8,10 are aspects of Mars, though 10th > aspect is attributed to

Saturn.> > 10th aspect of Saturn is like that of exalted Mars, who is exalted

in > the natural 10th house of action,i.e., Capricorn. Mars is also at its >

strongest placed in 10th house.> > The natural 8th house, Scorpio, is owned by

Mars and the natural 4th > house, Cancer, is the debilitation house of Mars.

> > I also feel that Capricorn, the natural 10th house, karma sthana > forms

the crux of all aspects / special aspects..which are shadows of > our past

karma /D-60 and lead to new/re-birth…7th aspect on> Cancer. > > Since Saturn

forms the crux of all aspects, Sun (Soul), the natural > antithesis of Saturn

(karma), will not form any aspects…the> natural 5th house Leo, moolatrikona of

Sun, exalts none, debilitates > none and does not cast any aspect on the 7th

house…the zodiacal> 11th house. It's like Sun at noon casting no shadows…> >

Same is the case with zodiacal 12th house, moolatrikona of Ketu, > representing

Mukthi/emancipation. It will not cast any aspect on > virgo, the natural 6th

house. > > If the zodiacal position of Saturn's houses being flanked by>

Jupiter and then fanning out to Mars is considered along with the> "chakra"

concept, where Saturn+Moon are treated as one unit,> flanked by Jupiter (at the

higher/subtle end) and Mars (at the > lower/physical end)..I think it all makes

sense. If one takes into > account the fact that "sahasraara" is lorded by Sun

and> beyond Sahasraara by Ketu…attaining both of which indicate a> state of

pure consciousness/ Light and divinity that lie beyond the > pale of birth &

body and its various avasthas…beyond karma, beyond> aspects…it all seems to

make a lot of sense. > > Waiting for your corrections,> > Regards,>

Lakshmi

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