Guest guest Posted October 24, 2002 Report Share Posted October 24, 2002 Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah Dear Shriram, Comments to your answers. Regarding the reconing form AL if Ketu is in AL , Ketu does not understand the real truth , it follows what is apparent. Since AL shows what is apparent Ketu will not cause reversal for matters relating to AL. But then once ketu learns the truth, it becomes Ganesha. If at this time, AL is not close to what is real there is again a reversal . This probably can cause the destruction of AL . However if AL is close to real, there will be no destruction of AL . When i say AL is close to real , i mean that the image of the native and what he really is are nearly one and the same. Visti: The AL is ONLY close to the real truth at death! This is why we time the hours of death when the Transit Lagna is joined the Natal-AL. Hence for the same reasons never worship the Shiv-Shakti indicated by yout Arudha lagna, or you will loose your image, and hence also the body. Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat Parasara Hora Shastra: vedic astrologybphs.zipiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/Itranslt.html - Shriram Srinivasan Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:12 AM [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Lesson on Vipareetam Ketoh Om Guruvae Namaha!Dear Sanjaiji,Namastae! Here is my attempt to answer your question. Regarding the reconing form AL if Ketu is in AL , Ketu does not understand the real truth , it follows what is apparent. Since AL shows what is apparent Ketu will not cause reversal for matters relating to AL.But then once ketu learns the truth, it becomes Ganesha. If at this time, AL is not close to what is real there is again a reversal . This probably can cause the destruction of AL . However if AL is close to real , there will be no destruction of AL . When i say AL is close to real , i mean that the image of the native and what he really is are nearly one and the same. This is only my limited understanding. regards,Shriram, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote:> > > Om Gurave Namah> Dear Sriram,> > This is something I have been personally struggling with.> Long time back I was told that it is impossible for a doctor to give himself medicine, so no matter how good he maybe, he has to go to the neighbour doctor. This is my situation. I too have Ketu in Arudha, and when I thought I had understood, I 'FORGOT' to ask questions, and that is why I was or rather am in a dilemma.> > Look at the situation. Now, Ketu in the AL is bound to influence the AL as a GRAHA and has to show its stamp. That is why there is the dictum that Rahu in 7th/12th from AL will make the native very spiritual. > > My questions: i.e. questions which I forgot to ask/did not understand or it was too late to ask..> > 1. Will this spirituality be real or apparant? i.e. in the sence that it is the apparant truth and not the real truth. What is spirituality in this world of illusion? Will we ever get to know the real truth so long as we stay in this body, which again is untruth?> > 2. Situation A: The native becomes spiritual and learns as a process of the natural experiences in the birth chart, then, after he becomes spiritual will the argala of Ketu in the reverse affect the AL? This is based on certain readings like if Saturn is in the ninth house, the native suffers very much, but after he takes diksha or mantra and joins any religious order, he becomes fortunate and lucky. Thus we find that the same Saturn which caused ill luck in the ninth house has left him alone after he took mantra and joined a religious order like membership and the blessings of the Karaka - the Sun came on the 9th house. So, even if the effect of spirituality is not felt from birth, after its effect begins, will the argala start working on the arudha.> > 3. Situation B: The argala works on the Arudha due to the impact of Ketu (bear in mind that the reckoning of argala from Ketu is for the purpose of Moksha karakatwa).. Now, if this happens, will the native be dragged towards spirituality and will the presence of Ketu in AL automatically destroy the AL? If that is so, then the Ketu in AL should be considered a punishment as this would be painful and a bad thing. In the converse, would Rahu in AL be considered good? This is definitely not true as Rahu in AL damages the reputation of the person.> > You see the dilemma. Now, this is not meant for this list as this is for beginners. This is for advanced students to resolve, but since you have asked, you can try. I do have some answers. The point about Jyotish is that there are rules, but should be applied very intelligently.> > Solution: You will find it working after the native joins a religious order or gets the Gayatri or some such mantra. Why? > Please attempt and after consideration with all your group, mail me the considered views.> > Best Regards,> Sanjay Rath> > 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Ph-1, New Delhi 110091, India> Tel: +91-11-2713201 Web: http://srath.com http://.org > > > Sriram.N.Kizhakkemadam [snk110]> Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:59 PM> To: > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Lesson on Vipareetam Ketoh> > > Om Gurave Namah> Hare Rama Krishna> > Pujya Gurudev,> In your earlier mail, you had said> > SR: That is why the reversal of house reckoning from Arudha Lagna is > meaningless if Ketu is there. What is to be seen, and for the limited > purpose of spirituality is the reversal of house reckoning from Ketu > for determining Argala or those planets who shall help the native in > losing his apparant head and getting a head full of knowledge or > those planets who shall obstruct this process.> > Sriram: During the meeting of the SJC East coast group(message > #4158), we did not apply the Vipareetam Ketoh principle from the AL > and rather we applied it only when Ketu was in Lagna. But, whereas > your advice later to Ms.Nisha was for applying the VK principle to > determine Argala, we had used it to reckon houses and their > lordships and found it working in some cases. Can you kindly read > through the minutes and advise us as to whether we are over-extending > the rules or missing some other details when we could correlate > events based on the reverse house reckoning ?> > Your sishya> K.N.sriram> > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : - > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]Send a blank mailTo : -To : Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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