[SJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Yes, one should consider the nature of the

planet being krura or saumya,

however the most important things here is to check, what are the significations

it promotes and what it doesn’t. Even though it is krura,

it does not affect us negetively, if placed in trine;

however it is always beneficial for good health. Why this is so? We have to see

the dynamics of karaka here. Sun is the karaka for the lagna

and its placement in the trine shall augment the signification of the lagna and

shall not destroy it.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The krura nature

is more seen in longevity issues, where Sun is considered as a malefic. Refer Shoola Dasa.

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you use them.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Warm Regards

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Chandrashekhar

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02 January 2003 01:28

 

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Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

 

Dear Saraijit,

If we remember Sun is a Krura Planet

then his being strong in 5th could not give any other result.

 

Chandrashekhar.

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; varahamihira

Wednesday,

January 01, 2003 3:55 PM

[sJC:

Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

 

|| Jaya Jagannatha ||

Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

Thank you for putting this query. Actually most of

us know many such

sutras, however we don't question, why does it

make sense! I also read

this before, and didn't question. However, this

mail put me into

thinking.

Generally, when a lord is placed in a house, we

assume that the lord

behaves somewhat like the karaka of the house and

we see the interaction

of the lord with the karaka of the house it is

placed. Using the same

principle, we may think this as the result of the

placement of Sun in

the 5th house. However, this explains only the

part of the Sutra Viz.,

1. He will be honourable and favourite to king - Royal

Planet Sun placed

in the trine.

2. Given to anger - fiery Sun's placement in the

trine.

The native will be intelligent as the karaka of

5th is Jupiter and it is

affecting on the Dhi (Lagna lord) and the

interaction of Sun and Jup is

pretty healthy.

However, the question asked by you is not

answered, by the relationship

which I defined above. However, if you take the

natural zodiac, the

natural 5th is Leo and the Badhakesh for Leo is

the 9th lord, or the

badhakashathana becomes Aries, which is the lagna

of the natural zodiac.

So the Lagnesh becomes the badhakesh for the

natural 5th. The placement

of the badhakesh in any house shall show the

problem related to that

house. Hence the lgnesha placed in the 5th house

shows the native shall

have mediocre happiness. I would guess that if the

sambandha of the

karaka of the 1st and 5th was not that good, the

happiness would have

been nil. However, because of the healthy

relationship between the Lagna

and the 5th karaka, Sun and Jup, the evil placement

of the badhakesh is

countered to a large extent, giving at least some

happiness.

If somebody clarify why does it show loss of first

child, it would be

really great. I guess, probably Sun signify one or

the leader.

Pranaam

Sarajit Poddar

 

sanjayprabhakaran

<sprabhakaran (AT) shreem (DOT) com>

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01 January 2003 05:22

 

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Lagna lord in 5th

house

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Gurudeva and Jyotishas,

I was thinking why lagna lord in 5th is told to

give bad effects in

terms of children longevity and anger.

lagneshe sutage jantoH sutasaukhyaM cha

madhyamam.h |

prathamApatyanAshaH syAnmAnI krodhI nR^ipapriyaH

|| BPHS 24.5

(santanam)||

5. If Lagn's Lord is in Putr Bhava, the native

will have mediocre

progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be

honourable, given

to anger and be dear to king.

Similar view is also in CoVA and HTJH-How to Judge

Horoscope

BVRaman.

Thank you,

Warm Regards,

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Dear Vistiji,

For me, lagna lord (Guru) is in 7th house. So what would that mean?

Does 7th house matters will be both easy and tough to attain? I dont

understand. Moreover, what is the rationale behind your statement?

 

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, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krishna

>

> --

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>

> Dear Sarajit,

> Try this one;

>

> Count from Lagna to its lord. The house indicated by that count,

will indicate those factors which are hard to obtain for the native.

>

> Count from the Lord to the Lagna. The house indicated by that

count, will indicate those factors which are easily attainable for

the native.

>

> "How'd you like them' beans?"

> Best wishes

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> Thursday, January 02, 2003 1:53 AM

> RE: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna

lord in 5th house

>

>

> || Jaya Jagannatha||

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar,

>

>

>

> Yes, one should consider the nature of the planet being krura or

saumya, however the most important things here is to check, what are

the significations it promotes and what it doesn't. Even though it is

krura, it does not affect us negetively, if placed in trine; however

it is always beneficial for good health. Why this is so? We have to

see the dynamics of karaka here. Sun is the karaka for the lagna and

its placement in the trine shall augment the signification of the

lagna and shall not destroy it.

>

>

>

> The krura nature is more seen in longevity issues, where Sun is

considered as a malefic. Refer Shoola Dasa.

>

>

>

> All of them are important, all matters is where you use them.

>

>

>

> Warm Regards

>

> Sarajit

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Chandrashekhar [boxdel]

> 02 January 2003 01:28

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna

lord in 5th house

>

>

>

> Dear Saraijit,

>

> If we remember Sun is a Krura Planet then his being strong in 5th

could not give any other result.

>

>

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> -

>

> Sarajit Poddar

>

> ; varahamihira

>

> Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:55 PM

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

>

>

>

> || Jaya Jagannatha ||

> Dear Sanjay Prabhakaran,

>

> Thank you for putting this query. Actually most of us know many

such

> sutras, however we don't question, why does it make sense! I

also read

> this before, and didn't question. However, this mail put me into

> thinking.

>

> Generally, when a lord is placed in a house, we assume that the

lord

> behaves somewhat like the karaka of the house and we see the

interaction

> of the lord with the karaka of the house it is placed. Using

the same

> principle, we may think this as the result of the placement of

Sun in

> the 5th house. However, this explains only the part of the

Sutra Viz.,

>

> 1. He will be honourable and favourite to king - Royal Planet

Sun placed

> in the trine.

>

> 2. Given to anger - fiery Sun's placement in the trine.

>

> The native will be intelligent as the karaka of 5th is Jupiter

and it is

> affecting on the Dhi (Lagna lord) and the interaction of Sun

and Jup is

> pretty healthy.

>

> However, the question asked by you is not answered, by the

relationship

> which I defined above. However, if you take the natural zodiac,

the

> natural 5th is Leo and the Badhakesh for Leo is the 9th lord,

or the

> badhakashathana becomes Aries, which is the lagna of the

natural zodiac.

> So the Lagnesh becomes the badhakesh for the natural 5th. The

placement

> of the badhakesh in any house shall show the problem related to

that

> house. Hence the lgnesha placed in the 5th house shows the

native shall

> have mediocre happiness. I would guess that if the sambandha of

the

> karaka of the 1st and 5th was not that good, the happiness

would have

> been nil. However, because of the healthy relationship between

the Lagna

> and the 5th karaka, Sun and Jup, the evil placement of the

badhakesh is

> countered to a large extent, giving at least some happiness.

>

> If somebody clarify why does it show loss of first child, it

would be

> really great. I guess, probably Sun signify one or the leader.

>

>

> Pranaam

> Sarajit Poddar

> sanjayprabhakaran <sprabhakaran@s...>

> [sprabhakaran@s...]

> 01 January 2003 05:22

>

> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Lagna lord in 5th house

>

> || Om Gurave Namah ||

> Dear Gurudeva and Jyotishas,

>

> I was thinking why lagna lord in 5th is told to give bad

effects in

> terms of children longevity and anger.

>

> lagneshe sutage jantoH sutasaukhyaM cha madhyamam.h |

> prathamApatyanAshaH syAnmAnI krodhI nR^ipapriyaH || BPHS 24.5

> (santanam)||

>

> 5. If Lagn's Lord is in Putr Bhava, the native will have

mediocre

> progenic happiness, will lose his first child, be honourable,

given

> to anger and be dear to king.

>

> Similar view is also in CoVA and HTJH-How to Judge Horoscope

> BVRaman.

>

> Thank you,

> Warm Regards,

> S. Prabhakaran

>

>

>

>

>

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Om Namo Narayanaya,

Dear Visti and other members,

I shall try to explain why these influences as given to Parashara:

Dear

Sarajit,The results

of the Lagna lord in the 5th house are repeated as follows: "Progenic

bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost. The native is

honourable, friendly, short-tempered and a favorite of the rulers, but

tends to serve others." Best wishes

Visti-

"Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost"

Zoran: Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first rashi

of Kal Purush), so his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic

bliss, as well as take the first child which is particulalry signified

by the 5th house

" The native is honorable"

Zoran: 5th lord in a natural zodiac belongs to Surya while Karaka is

Guru. So the person would be blessed by Surya and Guru. Further, Arudha

Lagna would fall into the 9th house of honour and divine blessings, while

Lagnesh would at the same time fall in the 9th house from arudha Lagna.

" The native is friendly"

This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and above mentioned

Arudha. Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who is always friendly towards

human...

"short tempered"

Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the 5th lord in Kal Purush.

Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered

" Favourite of the rulers, but tends to serve others"

Zoran: Favourite of the rulers is due to Surya, karaka Guru, and Arudha

Lagna in 9th house. The question about serving others can be spiritually

comprehended due to the above infleunces. If we observe this as an ordinary

matter such as business/service, the 5th house gives status and power,

and never service unless graha is afflicted. If we treat this as a govermental

service, and status through the same, then this is ok

Best wishes

Zoran

 

ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC

Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath Vedic Centre

email: ahimsa (AT) NSpoint (DOT) net

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Dear Visti,Zoran and other Learned Jyotishis,

If I may intervene,Jataka Parijat says in the chapter of Bhavaphala-5th-6th

Bhava shloka17"One shall certainly beget a Son(Progeny) if Lagnesh(Lord of

Ascendant) is in 5th, lord of the 5th is strong and Jupiter is Bali(Strong).

Chandrashekhar.

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Visti Larsen

 

Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:18 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

Hare Rama Krishna

Dear Zoran,

 

"Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost" Zoran:

Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first rashi of Kal Purush), so

his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic bliss, as well as take the

first child which is particulalry signified by the 5th house

Actually the Sun is Karaka for Lagna, and Sun in the 5th house can cause

miscarriages. The reason is that the Agni of the Sun and the water needed to

sustain childbirths, cause dryness or excess heat, which results in

miscarriages, similar to the effects of planets being in Gandanta.

 

Similarly Mars in the 5th can cause miscarriages due to excess bleeding.

 

As for blessings from elders, Arudha Lagna in the 9th is enough for this.

 

Best wishesVisti---Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgBrihat

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Saturday, January 04, 2003 3:11 PM

Re: [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Re: Achyuta Gurukul] RE:Lagna lord in 5th house

Om Namo Narayanaya, Dear Visti and other members, I shall try to explain why

these influences as given to Parashara: Dear Sarajit,The results of the Lagna

lord in the 5th house are repeated as follows: "Progenic bliss is not assured,

and the first child could be lost. The native is honourable, friendly,

short-tempered and a favorite of the rulers, but tends to serve others." Best

wishes Visti-

"Progenic bliss is not assured, and the first child could be lost" Zoran:

Lagnesh carry the energy of Mangal (mesh is the first rashi of Kal Purush), so

his influence as a Mangal could lessen the progenic bliss, as well as take the

first child which is particulalry signified by the 5th house " The native is

honorable" Zoran: 5th lord in a natural zodiac belongs to Surya while Karaka is

Guru. So the person would be blessed by Surya and Guru. Further, Arudha Lagna

would fall into the 9th house of honour and divine blessings, while Lagnesh

would at the same time fall in the 9th house from arudha Lagna. " The native is

friendly" This comes from Guru which is karaka for 5th house and above mentioned

Arudha. Why Friendly? Like Shri Mahavishnu, who is always friendly towards

human... "short tempered" Zoran: This is the infleunce of Surya as the 5th lord

in Kal Purush. Surya is Pitta Graha and is short tempered " Favourite of the

rulers, but tends to serve others" Zoran: Favourite of the rulers is due to

Surya, karaka Guru, and Arudha Lagna in 9th house. The question about serving

others can be spiritually comprehended due to the above infleunces. If we

observe this as an ordinary matter such as business/service, the 5th house

gives status and power, and never service unless graha is afflicted. If we

treat this as a govermental service, and status through the same, then this is

ok Best wishes Zoran ZORAN RADOSAVLJEVIC Jyotish Teacher of Shree Jagannath

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