To all members: Membership Fees/Jyotish Digest

[Guest guest]

om suragurubrihaspataye namah

 

Dear Jyotishis,

 

Please read through the following post carefully including details of payment

procedure for membership fees and Jyotish Digest subscriptions.

 

We had posted a message to SJC, Varahamihira and Vyasa Lists in late December

2002/early January 2003 announcing membership fees for both students and gurus.

It is something, which we decided way back in October, and when some SJC

members also strongly advocated the idea during the Hyderabad Conference, we

went ahead and implemented it. So it is a very newly introduced concept, and an

administrative necessity in order to systematize and consolidate the growth of

the organization, as SJC grew over the years by the grace of Jagannath

Mahaprabhu. So please bear with us through this process. We were planning to

make a repeat announcement about the membership fees in a month’s time and have

thought of making such an announcement periodically on the lists. Shortly, the

details below will be put up on the web.

 

We will soon post a detailed account as to why we feel membership fees are now

necessary. I am sure it is apparent to the gurus, administrative members and

those who are closely associated with us at a day-to-day level , of the

numerous hidden and administrative costs of running SJC. During the Hyderabad

conference, for example, Sanjayji has borne the costs of return plane and train

tickets of a guru and a guest . Gurus in transit have to be provided

accomodation and this too is borne by SJC. At other times we have accommodated

gurus and members as houseguests so that costs are entirely saved and are borne

by the individual hosts. This is a mode followed by most SJC gurus and members

all over the world, especially in the US during conferences . The SJC web

site has been registered and is maintained by a guru despite the fact that he

is between jobs at the moment. There are many such instances, where SJC members

have quietly paid from their pockets despite personal hardships. We want to

alleviate their difficulties by taking a contribution from all the members so

that many of these costs can be covered, as well as to generate funds for

sustaining the organization.

 

The administrative costs of running an organization are plenty, ranging from

photocopies, transparencies, printing, postage, courier, bank work, Jyotish

Digest, administrative expenses, secretarial help, local travel, free resources

on the web, web site designing, web site maintenance, lawyers fees, (and soon

auditors fees)...its an unending list. Please note we have not included guru

dakshina or time devoted by members for administration work in lieu of their

other professional commitment. Also note, we are contemplating moving to an

independent office space for SJC , planning research and translation work in a

big way and would like to venture into publishing; including brochures and

flyers for conferences and sponsorship purposes. All this would require money.

To start with, members would get benefits in the form of special prices on CDs

and audio tapes, special concessions during conference registrations, free

access to web resources etc. We will post a detailed mail on this soon.

 

The annual SJC membership fees are as follows:

 

 

India/ Indian Subcontinent

(Indian rupees)

Rest of the World

(US dollars)

Students

Rs. 500

$ 30

Gurus

Rs. 1000

$ 50

 

Both Indian and International members may submit checks directly to SJC's

account. Details are as follows:

 

Account name

Sri Jagannath Centre

Account number

0262000022052

Bank name

HDFC Bank

Address

Old Rajinder Nagar Market, New Delhi, India

..

 

Jyotish Digest: Jyotish Digest has now turned quarterly. A new look journal will

be out by the end of this month. We have introduced new subscription rates,

which will include postage costs. There have been complaints in the past that

the magazine never reached the rs. The last issue was mailed by

registered post and by courier service. This proved to be more satisfactory.

The new subscription rates therefore include the heavy postage costs apart from

covering the expenditure of producing the magazine. Our aim is to produce a

quality journal which will publish papers of excellence according to the lines

of research pursued and advocated by SJC and which will be different from other

astrological journals in the market. So please bear with us while this

transition takes place.

 

The new annual subscription fees are as follows, including postage:

 

 

Annual

India/Indian Subcontinent

(Indian rupees)

Rs. 200

Rest of the World

(US Dollars)

$ 10

 

 

Subscriptions are to be paid to Sri Jagannath Centre in the abovementioned

account name and number. Please note: International rs will not be

able to pay the subscription directly into the account as the sum is below the

minimum amount accepted by the Bank for foreign currency.

 

We hope this answers some of the queries raised recently. As we formalize the

structure we will be making more announcements

Thank you for bearing with us,

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar

President SJC - Asia

[Guest guest]

Dear Sandy,

 

As Sanjay has already explained to you, he transfers his paypal amount to the

account of his shishya (an US based SJC guru). This shishya as a personal

favour to his guru then re-directs the amount to his account in India. So as

you can see its a very cumbersome process. We can do this for SJC official

matters, although we are contemplating of employing this method for Jyotish

Digest international subscriptions. Please rest assured that we at SJC would

explore al possible avenues for financial exchange, and if Pay Pal was a viable

option we would have surely used it.

 

Best regards,

 

Sarbani Sarkar

 

- Sandy Crowther

vedic astrology ; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) Com ; SJC

Thursday, March 20, 2003 7:53 PM

[sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] RE: [vedic astrology] FW: [sJC: Varahamihira] To

all members: Membership Fees/Jyotish Digest

Hare Rama KrishnaDear Sarbani,Thanks for both your email and time...I appreciate

it. I understand that SJCdoes not have an account set up for SJC membership

payment transfers, whichis fine, and I will do as you suggested for

transferring funds. However, letme just address something (with respect to the

Indian government) for thebenefit of the members who do have Paypal

accounts...Your statement (below) remains quite confusing to me because PayPal

doeslist India amongst the following accepted International

accounts:http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outside(Please

see countries listed below).vedic astrology;

Varahamihira (AT) (DOT) Com; SJCRE: [vedic astrology] FW: [sJC:

Varahamihira] To all members:Membership Fees/Jyotish DigestDear Sandy,We cannot

use Pay Pal as India does not yet 'recognise' it or providefacilities by which

its citizens can avail of the Pay Pal services...yet.Hopefully our government

will soon rectify the lacuna, so that it becomesconvenient for people across

the globe to have smoother financial exchanges.Anyway, since this is a

governmental policy level matter, I can't help youmuch about this.Now there are

two ways that you can send checks to SJC. The first is thelonger way; that is,

you simply post a check to SJC by snail mail and wedeposit it to the account

when it reaches us. The second, is quicker andcheaper for you: this is a bank

to bank transfer. Ask your Bank to transferthe required amount directly to

SJC's account that we posted on the listearlier. And then there are more

cumbersome and expensive methods like MoneyOrder/Telegraphic Transfer and

Western Union Money Transfers. It does notmake any difference to us as to how

you make the payment. The choice andconvenience is yours entirely. Till the

government of India makes Pay Palaccessible to Indians, there is nothing much

that we can do to make iteasier for you. If you have any other suggestions on

the matter, please letus know, so that we can adopt the easiest process

available for theconvenience of all.Best regards,Sarbani Sarkar-----Original

Message-----Sandy Crowther [sandy (AT) toad (DOT) net]Tuesday, March

18, 2003 6:40 PMVedic-Astrology (AT) (DOT) Com; Varahamihira (AT) (DOT)

Com; SJC[vedic astrology] FW: [sJC: Varahamihira] To all

members:Membership Fees/Jyotish DigestSandy

Crowther [sandy (AT) toad (DOT) net]Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:00 AMTo:

Sarbani SarkarCc: Sanjay RathRE: [sJC: Varahamihira] To all members:

Membership Fees/JyotishDigestDear Sarbani,Please be assured that I only sent

you ONE message, and certainly meant nopressure on you. I know you must be very

busy with your duties. But pleaserealize that I have no control over how various

routers or ISP's handle theoutgoing or incoming mails.My reason for asking you

about membership transfers through Paypal isstrictly relative to security

purposes when transferring fundsinternationally. Writing a personal check to

any bank or financialinstitution, while simultaneously requesting (and

trusting) that the moneybe deposited into a specific account at that bank, is

not a normal procedureand is highly discouraged by administrative banking

officials where I comefrom, which is the USA. However, I will do just that as

you requested, byobtaining a Certified or Registered check for security

reasons, and thenjust hope for the best. I hope this better explains my

position and concerns, relative to thecultural differences in banking

practices. My thoughts and concerns are alsorelated to the fact that this type

of suggested monetary transfer may resultin actually impeding international

participation in financially supportingSJC, if other members also have security

concerns over the mode of suggestedtransfer. But this is really none of my

business, so I will leave it atthat. I am merely trying to initiate your

supportive awareness due tocultural differences in banking practices, and if I

have initially hesitatedto date to do as you suggested because of concerns, I

am sure I am notalone. I hope you understand now that I merely want to support

SJC, withoutthe risk of getting "ripped off" as we say in the USA. Thanks.

~Namaste~ Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.com/-----Original'>http://www.jupitersweb.com/-----Original

Message-----Sarbani Sarkar [sarbani (AT) (DOT) org]Sent:

Tuesday, March 18, 2003 3:25 AMsandy (AT) toad (DOT) netSubject: RE: [sJC:

Varahamihira] To all members: Membership Fees/JyotishDigestDear Sandy,I

received 3 messages from you! Do allow for time gaps. No, we don't havepaypal

arrangement for membership fees. You can deposit the check directlyinto the

account from wherever you are...OR post it to me.Hope this

helps,SarbaniSandy Crowther

[sandy (AT) toad (DOT) net]Monday, March 17, 2003 8:14 PMSarabani

SarkarRE: [sJC: Varahamihira] To all members: Membership

Fees/JyotishDigestDear Sarbani,Sorry to bother you...Is there a way to transfer

funds for Membership feesthrough a Paypal account? Thanks. ~Namaste~

Sandy Crowtherhttp://www.jupitersweb.com/

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