SJC Delhi Meeting 20/4-Vivekananda

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Dear

Jyotishis,

 

Garamond">For last Sunday’s class, Sanjayji had given us an exercise. We were

to examine Swami Vivekananda’s chart, examine his AK, determine his ishta, time

his renunciation and the establishment of the Ramakrishna Mission. We were to also

look into Sri Ramakrishna and Sri Sri Sharada Devi’s charts but we did not have

time to do so, as we started the class pretty late. There were only three of us

present: Prashant, Suneet and myself. We chose not to look into the books until

later as it would have influenced our results.

Garamond">

tab-stops:list .5in">The

Atmakaraka is 9th lord Sun, gloriously situated in lagna, which

is Sagittarius. Sun is also the lord of Arudha Lagna. It is situated in

the 2nd house in the Navamsa, indicating a high level of

spirituality. Mars is the 5th lord placed in the 5th

in its own house Aries. The trinal houses thus indicate a very high agni

component, making his chart vibrant, which was depicted in his glowing

personality. There is Tapasvi yoga, with Saturn, Venus and Ketu placed in

trines from each other. The presence of benefics in the 3rd and

6th from the AL and that of malefics in the 2nd from

UL, also shows Parivrajya Yoga.

tab-stops:list .5in">AK Sun

is a mahayogada, placed in lagna, which is also the Hora Lagna and the

Ghati Lagna. This conforms the fact that he attained fame internationally

by establishing the order of the Ramakrishna Math, which is spread all

over the globe, became renowned as one of the foremost preachers of Hinduism

in the West and wrote innumerable books on religion. He became famous for

his dictum, which is primarily his guru’s message, that the Vedas must be

rescued from the forests and brought back into the household and that

Hinduism should be released from the clutches of the “touch not” mantra,

which has pervaded the kitchens of India. Sun thus gave him unending fame,

made him build temples and made him heed the call of his atma, and follow

its spiritual path.

tab-stops:list .5in">The

planet in the 12th house from Karakamsa is Jupiter, placed in

the Navamsa lagna. Jupiter in Navamsa lagna as ishta can mean both Maha

Vishnu and Sada Shiva. I kind of cheated, as I knew beforehand that he was

an ardent devotee of Shiva as also his innumerable childhood stories

related to the great lord. However we could not conform it in the chart.

Saravali says Jupiter in lagna means Shiva, but if we follow our regular

ishta calculation method it can also mean Vishnu. How do we determine

this? Aspects did not help, as Saturn and Mercury points more towards

Vishnu. Prashant’s opinion was that since Mars is the dispositor of ishta,

it might imply Rudra and hence Shiva. I instinctively went towards the

fact that Sun was such a strong AK in his chart that it surely pointed

towards Shiva, although I cannot explain it logically. We looked up VRA later and there

the explanation is given according to Sun in the lagna. (As I write this,

I notice, Jupiter is aspecting an exalted Venus in the 5th in

Navamsa. Venus in 5th is Mrityunjaya, so this clinches the case

for Shiva).

tab-stops:list .5in">There is

a Kalika yoga with Saturn and Moon in Virgo in the 10th. Saturn

is BK, and the Kalika yoga clearly conforms that his guru was the priest

of Goddess Kali of Dakshineswar, and a devout worshipper of the Divine

Mother, having the privilege of Her sakshat darshan. Sanjayji has

explained this in his books many times too, that this shows Vivekananda’s

guru came from the tradition of Kali. There is a very interesting exchange

between the 2nd and 10th lords, Saturn and Mercury.

The 2nd house, Capricorn is also his Mantrapada, lorded by BK

Saturn. Saturn goes to Virgo forming Kalika yoga with Moon in the 10th,

and its lord Mecury is in the 2nd. Maybe other gurus on the

List can elaborate on the true meaning of such an exchange.

tab-stops:list .5in">We

looked at Drig Dasha for timing his renunciation. I feel Capricorn-Virgo

dasha was extremely important, for the reasons given above. Capricorn

dasha, containing his Mantrapada, lasted from 1883-1887. Cap-Vir was for 5

months in the beginning of 1883. This was followed by Cap-Leo, Leo being

his AL. This too is a probable period. Cap-Tau was for 4 months in

mid-1884. During Cap-Vir he must have met Sri Ramakrishna, perhaps even

renunciated, but as far as my memory serves me, he renunciated later.

Probably in 1884 during Cap-Tau?

The Math was established perhaps in the first half of 1886 when

Cap-Sag was operating. We verified later that Sri Ramakrishna left his

earthly body in 1886, and I know for a fact that the Math was established

after he left for the heavenly abode; so 1886 seems like a probable date.

Sagittarius is his lagna with AK Sun forming the mahayogada there. We must

remember that Sun is also AL lord. So Lagna plays an important role in the

establishment of the Ramakrishna Math.

yes"> In vimshottari, he was undergoing Rahu mahadasha. From 1882 to 1888 he

went through

the antardashas of Mercury, Ketu and Venus, all planets associated with

his guru, mantrapada and Parivrajya yoga. This also coincides with Cap-Vir

and Cap-Tau Drig dashas. The period 1883-1887 is the probable time when he

renunciated and established the order. If this time frame is confirmed

then we can attempt to narrow it down. I have not tried to conform these

dates yet.

tab-stops:list .5in">Before

he met Sri Ramakrishna, Vivekananda used to frequent the Brahmo Samaj, like

most of his Western educated contemporaries. In that sense Vivekananda was

very much a product of renaissance Bengal. After he met Thakur, he left

the Samaj. We wondered

whether this could be determined from his chart.

 

This maybe very simplistic. Awaiting

response form gurus.

 

 

Best

regards,

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Sarbani

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Om Namah Shivaya

Dear SJC Delhi

 

 

There is a conditional dasa that applies to Swami Vivekananda's

chart. This is due to sun in lagna. You can examine all the events

through this dasa, as it is very accurate.

regards

partha

 

, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...>

wrote:

> Dear Jyotishis,

>

> For last Sunday's class, Sanjayji had given us an exercise. We were

to

> examine Swami Vivekananda's chart, examine his AK, determine his

ishta, time

> his renunciation and the establishment of the Ramakrishna Mission.

We were

> to also look into Sri Ramakrishna and Sri Sri Sharada Devi's charts

but we

> did not have time to do so, as we started the class pretty late.

There were

> only three of us present: Prashant, Suneet and myself. We chose not

to look

> into the books until later as it would have influenced our results.

>

> 1. The Atmakaraka is 9th lord Sun, gloriously situated in lagna,

which is

> Sagittarius. Sun is also the lord of Arudha Lagna. It is situated

in the 2nd

> house in the Navamsa, indicating a high level of spirituality. Mars

is the

> 5th lord placed in the 5th in its own house Aries. The trinal

houses thus

> indicate a very high agni component, making his chart vibrant,

which was

> depicted in his glowing personality. There is Tapasvi yoga, with

Saturn,

> Venus and Ketu placed in trines from each other. The presence of

benefics in

> the 3rd and 6th from the AL and that of malefics in the 2nd from

UL, also

> shows Parivrajya Yoga.

> 2. AK Sun is a mahayogada, placed in lagna, which is also the

Hora Lagna and

> the Ghati Lagna. This conforms the fact that he attained fame

> internationally by establishing the order of the Ramakrishna Math,

which is

> spread all over the globe, became renowned as one of the foremost

preachers

> of Hinduism in the West and wrote innumerable books on religion. He

became

> famous for his dictum, which is primarily his guru's message, that

the Vedas

> must be rescued from the forests and brought back into the

household and

> that Hinduism should be released from the clutches of the "touch

not"

> mantra, which has pervaded the kitchens of India. Sun thus gave him

unending

> fame, made him build temples and made him heed the call of his

atma, and

> follow its spiritual path.

> 3. The planet in the 12th house from Karakamsa is Jupiter,

placed in the

> Navamsa lagna. Jupiter in Navamsa lagna as ishta can mean both Maha

Vishnu

> and Sada Shiva. I kind of cheated, as I knew beforehand that he was

an

> ardent devotee of Shiva as also his innumerable childhood stories

related to

> the great lord. However we could not conform it in the chart.

Saravali says

> Jupiter in lagna means Shiva, but if we follow our regular ishta

calculation

> method it can also mean Vishnu. How do we determine this? Aspects

did not

> help, as Saturn and Mercury points more towards Vishnu. Prashant's

opinion

> was that since Mars is the dispositor of ishta, it might imply

Rudra and

> hence Shiva. I instinctively went towards the fact that Sun was

such a

> strong AK in his chart that it surely pointed towards Shiva,

although I

> cannot explain it logically. We looked up VRA later and there the

> explanation is given according to Sun in the lagna. (As I write

this, I

> notice, Jupiter is aspecting an exalted Venus in the 5th in

Navamsa. Venus

> in 5th is Mrityunjaya, so this clinches the case for Shiva).

> 4. There is a Kalika yoga with Saturn and Moon in Virgo in the

10th. Saturn

> is BK, and the Kalika yoga clearly conforms that his guru was the

priest of

> Goddess Kali of Dakshineswar, and a devout worshipper of the Divine

Mother,

> having the privilege of Her sakshat darshan. Sanjayji has explained

this in

> his books many times too, that this shows Vivekananda's guru came

from the

> tradition of Kali. There is a very interesting exchange between the

2nd and

> 10th lords, Saturn and Mercury. The 2nd house, Capricorn is also his

> Mantrapada, lorded by BK Saturn. Saturn goes to Virgo forming

Kalika yoga

> with Moon in the 10th, and its lord Mecury is in the 2nd. Maybe

other gurus

> on the List can elaborate on the true meaning of such an exchange.

> 5. We looked at Drig Dasha for timing his renunciation. I feel

> Capricorn-Virgo dasha was extremely important, for the reasons

given above.

> Capricorn dasha, containing his Mantrapada, lasted from 1883-1887.

Cap-Vir

> was for 5 months in the beginning of 1883. This was followed by Cap-

Leo, Leo

> being his AL. This too is a probable period. Cap-Tau was for 4

months in

> mid-1884. During Cap-Vir he must have met Sri Ramakrishna, perhaps

even

> renunciated, but as far as my memory serves me, he renunciated

later.

> Probably in 1884 during Cap-Tau? The Math was established perhaps

in the

> first half of 1886 when Cap-Sag was operating. We verified later

that Sri

> Ramakrishna left his earthly body in 1886, and I know for a fact

that the

> Math was established after he left for the heavenly abode; so 1886

seems

> like a probable date. Sagittarius is his lagna with AK Sun forming

the

> mahayogada there. We must remember that Sun is also AL lord. So

Lagna plays

> an important role in the establishment of the Ramakrishna Math. In

> vimshottari, he was undergoing Rahu mahadasha. From 1882 to 1888

he went

> through the antardashas of Mercury, Ketu and Venus, all planets

associated

> with his guru, mantrapada and Parivrajya yoga. This also coincides

with

> Cap-Vir and Cap-Tau Drig dashas. The period 1883-1887 is the

probable time

> when he renunciated and established the order. If this time frame is

> confirmed then we can attempt to narrow it down. I have not tried

to conform

> these dates yet.

> 6. Before he met Sri Ramakrishna, Vivekananda used to frequent

the Brahmo

> Samaj, like most of his Western educated contemporaries. In that

sense

> Vivekananda was very much a product of renaissance Bengal. After he

met

> Thakur, he left the Samaj. We wondered whether this could be

determined

> from his chart.

>

> This maybe very simplistic. Awaiting response form gurus.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Sarbani